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More (like anyone doubts it) evidence that Republican leaders have worked all along to thwart Obama's efforts in his presidency. The latest, of course, trying to hold off the Scalia replacement.
More (like anyone doubts it) evidence that Republican leaders have worked all along to thwart Obama's efforts in his presidency. The latest, of course, trying to hold off the Scalia replacement.
They made it clear from day 1. Republicans in the Senate and congress fight against democracy and frankly are disgusting human beings. They are sinking lower and lower by supporting Trump. It's a clown show of epic proportions. I would laugh if it wasn't so impportant.
More (like anyone doubts it) evidence that Republican leaders have worked all along to thwart Obama's efforts in his presidency. The latest, of course, trying to hold off the Scalia replacement.
They made it clear from day 1. Republicans in the Senate and congress fight against democracy and frankly are disgusting human beings. They are sinking lower and lower by supporting Trump. It's a clown show of epic proportions. I would laugh if it wasn't so impportant.
Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook February 19, 2016
MR. COOK: We've made clear that we need to confront ISIL wherever it rears its head. They have posted direct threat to United States. They have encouraged attacks against the United States and our -- and our allies, and we're going to continue to confront it to protect our national security.
And this was an instance where we saw an opportunity to strike at ISIL in Libya, and we carried out that strike. And we feel -- we feel confident this was a successful strike.
Q: But Peter, under what authority was this strike carried out? There is no AUMF for ISIS in Libya, no Americans were killed in the two attacks in Tunisia.
Under what authority?
MR. COOK: Well, again, we've struck in Libya previously, under the existing use of force, the authorization for the use of military force.
Q: In 2001, against Al Qaida?
MR. COOK: Yes, specifically. And this -- in our targeting of Chouchane in this instance.
And we believe that this was based on -- was legal under international law.
Q: But you're saying that you're using the 2001 AUMF against Al Qaida to go after ISIS in Libya (2016)?
MR. COOK: Specifically, again, as a -- the use of military force against ISIL is authorized by the 2001 authorization for the use of military force, specifically. Just as it was -- as we used it in our previous strike in Libya.
Not closing Gitmo was one campaign promise I was always glad Obama didn't keep.
..... So you're glad he's trying to close it?
Yeah, I guess my grammar was pretty poor there.
No...I don't think he needs to close it nor does it need to be closed.
It's not a huge issue for me, but why does the US need it to be where it is, if not to skirt US law? That's the problem I have with it. I think they should close Gitmo, but not before they build a replacement in the continental USA, where they are more bound to US law. They do need a place where these kinds of prisoners are kept, but not in this way. It's just shady.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Not closing Gitmo was one campaign promise I was always glad Obama didn't keep.
..... So you're glad he's trying to close it?
Yeah, I guess my grammar was pretty poor there.
No...I don't think he needs to close it nor does it need to be closed.
It's not a huge issue for me, but why does the US need it to be where it is, if not to skirt US law? That's the problem I have with it. I think they should close Gitmo, but not before they build a replacement in the continental USA, where they are more bound to US law. They do need a place where these kinds of prisoners are kept, but not in this way. It's just shady.
I would prefer they were not brought into the continental US which is why I have never minded this place not being closed. Does it seem shady? Yeah, probably...but maybe necessarily so.
Not closing Gitmo was one campaign promise I was always glad Obama didn't keep.
..... So you're glad he's trying to close it?
Yeah, I guess my grammar was pretty poor there.
No...I don't think he needs to close it nor does it need to be closed.
It's not a huge issue for me, but why does the US need it to be where it is, if not to skirt US law? That's the problem I have with it. I think they should close Gitmo, but not before they build a replacement in the continental USA, where they are more bound to US law. They do need a place where these kinds of prisoners are kept, but not in this way. It's just shady.
I would prefer they were not brought into the continental US which is why I have never minded this place not being closed. Does it seem shady? Yeah, probably...but maybe necessarily so.
I prefer a government to uphold their own laws.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
President Obama banned torture in the first week of his presidency. Citing his desire to “look forward, not backward,” however, he has declined to prosecute the senior officials responsible, and has used the state secrets privilege to block lawsuits from torture victims.
With Obama shielding U.S. officials from criminal and civil liability, former detainees are turning to international courts for justice – but the Obama administration is not cooperating. In 2012, the judge in Benchellali and Sassi’s case requested U.S. government documents related to the plaintiffs’ detentions, but got no response.
President Obama banned torture in the first week of his presidency. Citing his desire to “look forward, not backward,” however, he has declined to prosecute the senior officials responsible, and has used the state secrets privilege to block lawsuits from torture victims.
With Obama shielding U.S. officials from criminal and civil liability, former detainees are turning to international courts for justice – but the Obama administration is not cooperating. In 2012, the judge in Benchellali and Sassi’s case requested U.S. government documents related to the plaintiffs’ detentions, but got no response.
of course.
it is not a crime when our guys do it. only when theirs torture our people.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
The Obama administration has long called itself the most transparent administration in history. But newly released Department of Justice (DOJ) documents show that the White House has actually worked aggressively behind the scenes to scuttle congressional reforms designed to give the public better access to information possessed by the federal government.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-antonin-scalia_us_56c7707ee4b0ec6725e28291
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Definitely hard to laugh about and yes, right there in living color 7 seconds.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
February 19, 2016
MR. COOK: We've made clear that we need to confront ISIL wherever it rears its head. They have posted direct threat to United States. They have encouraged attacks against the United States and our -- and our allies, and we're going to continue to confront it to protect our national security.
And this was an instance where we saw an opportunity to strike at ISIL in Libya, and we carried out that strike. And we feel -- we feel confident this was a successful strike.
Q: But Peter, under what authority was this strike carried out? There is no AUMF for ISIS in Libya, no Americans were killed in the two attacks in Tunisia.
Under what authority?
MR. COOK: Well, again, we've struck in Libya previously, under the existing use of force, the authorization for the use of military force.
Q: In 2001, against Al Qaida?
MR. COOK: Yes, specifically. And this -- in our targeting of Chouchane in this instance.
And we believe that this was based on -- was legal under international law.
Q: But you're saying that you're using the 2001 AUMF against Al Qaida to go after ISIS in Libya (2016)?
MR. COOK: Specifically, again, as a -- the use of military force against ISIL is authorized by the 2001 authorization for the use of military force, specifically. Just as it was -- as we used it in our previous strike in Libya.
The Obama administration has used the Espionage Act to target whistle-blowers more than all other presidents combined — “three times more".
2016 - Obama wants to close Gitmo
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
You're welcome.
It's called civics class. You should enroll sometime.
No...I don't think he needs to close it nor does it need to be closed.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I forgot to mention that it was a first 100 days promise.
obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.
why doesn't he just do that?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
SHOW COUNT: (164) 1990's=3, 2000's=53, 2010/20's=108, US=118, CAN=15, Europe=20 ,New Zealand=4, Australia=5
Mexico=1, Colombia=1
they do a good enough job of that on their own.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
it is very hold to hold people accountable or make them squirm when they absolutely refuse to do their fucking job.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
President Obama banned torture in the first week of his presidency. Citing his desire to “look forward, not backward,” however, he has declined to prosecute the senior officials responsible, and has used the state secrets privilege to block lawsuits from torture victims.
With Obama shielding U.S. officials from criminal and civil liability, former detainees are turning to international courts for justice – but the Obama administration is not cooperating. In 2012, the judge in Benchellali and Sassi’s case requested U.S. government documents related to the plaintiffs’ detentions, but got no response.
it is not a crime when our guys do it. only when theirs torture our people.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
https://news.vice.com/article/it-took-a-foia-lawsuit-to-uncover-how-the-obama-administration-killed-foia-reform
It also makes me very nervous about Hillary.
I very much appreciate how smart and pragmatic Obama is. Well worth the read by everyone
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/