wait times over bankruptcy. It would be hard to choose one over the other.
Yeah, we all know how Canadians stream across the border for our healthcare lol
They do. Less wait times and access to both drugs and technologies that might not be available here.
I don't know one person in my 42 years that have gone south for any type of treatment whatsoever. NOT ONE.
I know quite a few.
what kind? lifesaving? or maintenance surgery? and was it because they might die waiting, or was it simply because they could afford to do it?
All of the above. It also includes treatments not approved here (in Ontario at least) that were available south of the border. I can speak to my father's lung cancer treatment specifically.
less than 1% of ALL patients (lifesaving and maintenance) leave Canada for healthcare. Note that plastic surgery is the same or higher than oncology and cardiovascular patients.
And I support this:
Barua said that while the report does not offer prescriptions for how to improve Canadian health care, countries with better wait times usually do three things differently than Canada:
Include some private partnership or private sector alternatives to government-funded health care. Implement a cost-sharing user fee model where patients pay a deductible or flat fee for accessing services. Fund hospitals based on the number and type of patients they treat rather than providing a global budget.
Wait times in canada don't effect any illness that can cause permanent risks to your health. Yes, sometimes you have to wait a little longer for knee surgery than in the US, but you wont go poor because of it. Heart trouble? Lung issues? Cancer? You get immediate treatment. Not sure why this is such a big deal to tour average american. My daughter has ulcerative colitis, and her care is covered 100% (its $5,000 every 6 weeks for her infusions, and hundreds more for her daily meds). I cant imagine dealing with that in the US. Yeah, universal health care is so fucking evil.
+1. It ain't perfect, but I still love the Canadian healthcare system. I can feel totally secure in the knowledge that if I have any kind of life threatening condition or acute injury or condition that could further harm my health, I will be taken care of promptly and well, without being harmed financially. To me, that is 1000% worth a longer wait time for a hip replacement.
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So what legacy does he leave behind? he improved his golf game, killed Bin Laden, let ISIS grow to the power it is, commenting on everything race related, and left behind an Obama Care disaster....all in 8 years worth of work
So what legacy does he leave behind? he improved his golf game, killed Bin Laden, let ISIS grow to the power it is, commenting on everything race related, and left behind an Obama Care disaster....all in 8 years worth of work
There's a factual legacy that will develop over time, and the consensus being that he led the country out of economic disaster, wound down two wars, and improved a horrible health insurance system the took us closer to a single-payer system, all while facing stubborn hard line opposition from Republicans (which got them Trump). Righties who think Reagan was awesome will disagree with this all the way to their deathbed.
So what legacy does he leave behind? he improved his golf game, killed Bin Laden, let ISIS grow to the power it is, commenting on everything race related, and left behind an Obama Care disaster....all in 8 years worth of work
There's a factual legacy that will develop over time, and the consensus being that he led the country out of economic disaster, wound down two wars, and improved a horrible health insurance system the took us closer to a single-payer system, all while facing stubborn hard line opposition from Republicans (which got them Trump). Righties who think Reagan was awesome will disagree with this all the way to their deathbed.
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interesting how obama's approval rating is at an all time high for a president this far in second term. all in spite of outright opposition from the republicans.
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interesting how obama's approval rating is at an all time high for a president this far in second term. all in spite of outright opposition from the republicans.
Anyone would look like a genius with the Trump / Clinton show in full swing.
interesting how obama's approval rating is at an all time high for a president this far in second term. all in spite of outright opposition from the republicans.
That's not saying much for the American people who are so out of touch with reality that his approval rating is where its at with Obama Care screwing the same people who probably gave him approval and these are the same American people who are giving us Trump and HRC as options for president...so my faith in people to make informed decisions in this country is slim to none...what gives me any hope is some people on this board, tho i may disagree with most of them can sure in the hell back up their side
Growth was sluggish in the first half of the year, averaging just above 1%.
Lets go ahead and forget this part
im not one to pin the economy on the president unless he passes some sort of legislature or something like Obama Care that can effect the market or Bush and the housing crisis...perfect example was Bill Clinton and the tech boom wave he rode
Yea, no credit, no where, country's just all gone to hell, I get it.
I give credit for Bin Laden and attempting to give health care to those that had pre existing conditions where otherwise they would have been left out in the cold, but the long term planning of Obama Care was not well thought by the "architect" Ezekiel Emanuel and company
IMO more negatives than positives for the president
I have not being an outspoken Obama hater. I don't think he's been a good president. And I have been against the bailouts and Obamacare. That being said, wasn't it under his watch that unemployment rose to over 10%? So it would seem natural that the trend would have to come back down. Just like Reagan, when you cause high rates of unemployment, at some point it's going to drop. The economy is cyclical. It's gets really bad, then bounces back. The surprise here to me is that Obama got to see a second term, most presidents that have screwed the economy don't get that chance.
You have a tenuous grasp on the financial collapse and resulting recession if you think that Obama "screwed the economy."
I don't blame Obama alone. GW didn't help matter and Clinton started the mess.
Actually Reagan started the mess. To quote his own VP with "voodoo economics "
I have not being an outspoken Obama hater. I don't think he's been a good president. And I have been against the bailouts and Obamacare. That being said, wasn't it under his watch that unemployment rose to over 10%? So it would seem natural that the trend would have to come back down. Just like Reagan, when you cause high rates of unemployment, at some point it's going to drop. The economy is cyclical. It's gets really bad, then bounces back. The surprise here to me is that Obama got to see a second term, most presidents that have screwed the economy don't get that chance.
You have a tenuous grasp on the financial collapse and resulting recession if you think that Obama "screwed the economy."
I don't blame Obama alone. GW didn't help matter and Clinton started the mess.
Actually Reagan started the mess. To quote his own VP with "voodoo economics "
It's all George Washington's fault. Stupid wooden teeth ...
U.S. unemployment falls to 4.9% before election That's down by half since 2009, when unemployment peaked at 10%. October's gains marked the 73rd consecutive month of job gains for the U.S. economy. Wages grew 2.8% in October compared to a year ago, the fastest growth since June 2009. Overall, the black unemployment rate at the end of October stood at 8.6%, down from a peak of 16.6% in 2010. The solid job numbers on Friday come one week after America posted its best quarterly economic growth in two years of 2.9%.
Donald Trump has called the official unemployment rate a "hoax" and he's tried to discredit the Labor Department's official numbers.
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U.S. unemployment falls to 4.9% before election That's down by half since 2009, when unemployment peaked at 10%. October's gains marked the 73rd consecutive month of job gains for the U.S. economy. Wages grew 2.8% in October compared to a year ago, the fastest growth since June 2009. Overall, the black unemployment rate at the end of October stood at 8.6%, down from a peak of 16.6% in 2010. The solid job numbers on Friday come one week after America posted its best quarterly economic growth in two years of 2.9%.
Donald Trump has called the official unemployment rate a "hoax" and he's tried to discredit the Labor Department's official numbers.
what are the numbers of people who quit looking for work?
U.S. unemployment falls to 4.9% before election That's down by half since 2009, when unemployment peaked at 10%. October's gains marked the 73rd consecutive month of job gains for the U.S. economy. Wages grew 2.8% in October compared to a year ago, the fastest growth since June 2009. Overall, the black unemployment rate at the end of October stood at 8.6%, down from a peak of 16.6% in 2010. The solid job numbers on Friday come one week after America posted its best quarterly economic growth in two years of 2.9%.
Donald Trump has called the official unemployment rate a "hoax" and he's tried to discredit the Labor Department's official numbers.
what are the numbers of people who quit looking for work?
ftfa: Trump says the unemployment rate is closer to 10%, using a broader measure of unemployment, which also counts some part time workers as unemployed. The Bureau of Labor Statistics, a wing of the Labor Department, has never relied on this measure to describe the country's key unemployment rate.
It's called the "U6 rate." For instance, U6 includes part-time workers who want full-time jobs. It also counts unemployed people who looked for a job in the past four weeks, as well as unemployed people who have looked for a job in the past year. The 5% rate -- known as U3 -- includes only unemployed people who were actively looking for a job in the past four weeks. Most economists believe U3 is a more accurate reflection of unemployment. It's been the accepted measure since the 1930s.
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U.S. unemployment falls to 4.9% before election That's down by half since 2009, when unemployment peaked at 10%. October's gains marked the 73rd consecutive month of job gains for the U.S. economy. Wages grew 2.8% in October compared to a year ago, the fastest growth since June 2009. Overall, the black unemployment rate at the end of October stood at 8.6%, down from a peak of 16.6% in 2010. The solid job numbers on Friday come one week after America posted its best quarterly economic growth in two years of 2.9%.
Donald Trump has called the official unemployment rate a "hoax" and he's tried to discredit the Labor Department's official numbers.
what are the numbers of people who quit looking for work?
you arm must be really sore from all that reaching.
U.S. unemployment falls to 4.9% before election That's down by half since 2009, when unemployment peaked at 10%. October's gains marked the 73rd consecutive month of job gains for the U.S. economy. Wages grew 2.8% in October compared to a year ago, the fastest growth since June 2009. Overall, the black unemployment rate at the end of October stood at 8.6%, down from a peak of 16.6% in 2010. The solid job numbers on Friday come one week after America posted its best quarterly economic growth in two years of 2.9%.
Donald Trump has called the official unemployment rate a "hoax" and he's tried to discredit the Labor Department's official numbers.
what are the numbers of people who quit looking for work?
Trumpsters always say this when trying to explain away the low unemployment rate.
Why don't you compare the figure that you are looking for to that same figure on the date that Obama took office and let us know what you find?
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Obama couldn't have been more wrong on trump campaigning for Hilliary...the best is his reference to trump not knowing working Americans. Take alook at that very red map!
Obama couldn't have been more wrong on trump campaigning for Hilliary...the best is his reference to trump not knowing working Americans. Take alook at that very red map!
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less than 1% of ALL patients (lifesaving and maintenance) leave Canada for healthcare. Note that plastic surgery is the same or higher than oncology and cardiovascular patients.
And I support this:
Barua said that while the report does not offer prescriptions for how to improve Canadian health care, countries with better wait times usually do three things differently than Canada:
Include some private partnership or private sector alternatives to government-funded health care.
Implement a cost-sharing user fee model where patients pay a deductible or flat fee for accessing services.
Fund hospitals based on the number and type of patients they treat rather than providing a global budget.
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•FY 1989 - $255 billion.
•FY 1988 - $252 billion.
•FY 1987 - $225 billion.
•FY 1986 - $297 billion.
•FY 1985 - $256 billion.
•FY 1984 - $195 billion.
•FY 1983 - $235 billion.
•FY 1982 - $144 billion.
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I wonder how many body cams you could buy with $3.6M?
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Lets go ahead and forget this part
im not one to pin the economy on the president unless he passes some sort of legislature or something like Obama Care that can effect the market or Bush and the housing crisis...perfect example was Bill Clinton and the tech boom wave he rode
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I give credit for Bin Laden and attempting to give health care to those that had pre existing conditions where otherwise they would have been left out in the cold, but the long term planning of Obama Care was not well thought by the "architect" Ezekiel Emanuel and company
IMO more negatives than positives for the president
That's down by half since 2009, when unemployment peaked at 10%.
October's gains marked the 73rd consecutive month of job gains for the U.S. economy.
Wages grew 2.8% in October compared to a year ago, the fastest growth since June 2009.
Overall, the black unemployment rate at the end of October stood at 8.6%, down from a peak of 16.6% in 2010.
The solid job numbers on Friday come one week after America posted its best quarterly economic growth in two years of 2.9%.
Donald Trump has called the official unemployment rate a "hoax" and he's tried to discredit the Labor Department's official numbers.
Trump says the unemployment rate is closer to 10%, using a broader measure of unemployment, which also counts some part time workers as unemployed. The Bureau of Labor Statistics, a wing of the Labor Department, has never relied on this measure to describe the country's key unemployment rate.
It's called the "U6 rate." For instance, U6 includes part-time workers who want full-time jobs. It also counts unemployed people who looked for a job in the past four weeks, as well as unemployed people who have looked for a job in the past year.
The 5% rate -- known as U3 -- includes only unemployed people who were actively looking for a job in the past four weeks.
Most economists believe U3 is a more accurate reflection of unemployment. It's been the accepted measure since the 1930s.
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Why don't you compare the figure that you are looking for to that same figure on the date that Obama took office and let us know what you find?
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