GOP takes back the house. Opinions?

josevolution

rr165892 said:

As an Independent who Doesn't wear a D or an R on my sleeve it's almost comical to read the same vitriolic rhetoric being blabbed from both sides.
You hard core Dems on here are blind to think this whole mess with those unproductive idiots in power is all the Republicans fault.I realize the Demographic on this board is 95% liberal Dem so opinions will be biased.But sheesh,for every claim of incompetence and Racism the D supporters throw out there,I as someone not taking sides see the incompetence and reverse racial bullshit the Dems are throwing out(Sharpton and Jackson the two biggest stirrers of the racial pot).
Until everyone of the hard line party Kool aid drinkers try's reaching a helping hand and attitude toward the other side no progress will be made.We stand divided on almost every issue with clear thinking moderates on both sides becoming extinct in favor of far right and far left ideas.This country is split down the middle almost exactly.Before either side throws stones they need to clean up their own shit,and there is plenty to clean.

I agree with most what you said but if i remember correctly the division started when ? as soon as OBAMA took office what was the 1st thing Republicans said our main objective is to block anything Obama puts forth & as far as i see it that was the 1st shot across the bow .....It could also be that i don't know shit about what i spew ...

rr165892

josevolution said:

rr165892 said:

As an Independent who Doesn't wear a D or an R on my sleeve it's almost comical to read the same vitriolic rhetoric being blabbed from both sides.
You hard core Dems on here are blind to think this whole mess with those unproductive idiots in power is all the Republicans fault.I realize the Demographic on this board is 95% liberal Dem so opinions will be biased.But sheesh,for every claim of incompetence and Racism the D supporters throw out there,I as someone not taking sides see the incompetence and reverse racial bullshit the Dems are throwing out(Sharpton and Jackson the two biggest stirrers of the racial pot).
Until everyone of the hard line party Kool aid drinkers try's reaching a helping hand and attitude toward the other side no progress will be made.We stand divided on almost every issue with clear thinking moderates on both sides becoming extinct in favor of far right and far left ideas.This country is split down the middle almost exactly.Before either side throws stones they need to clean up their own shit,and there is plenty to clean.

I agree with most what you said but if i remember correctly the division started when ? as soon as OBAMA took office what was the 1st thing Republicans said our main objective is to block anything Obama puts forth & as far as i see it that was the 1st shot across the bow .....It could also be that i don't know shit about what i spew ...

Jose,someone always starts it.One side or the other.Both parties have been neglect in their workmanship skills.I think we may be heading into a presidency that is a bit bit centrist this time around which is promising .
Hillary or Jeb both know how to work across the isle and have track records of bipartisan cooperation.So I guess some hope is coming.

rgambs

rr165892 said:

josevolution said:

rr165892 said:

As an Independent who Doesn't wear a D or an R on my sleeve it's almost comical to read the same vitriolic rhetoric being blabbed from both sides.
You hard core Dems on here are blind to think this whole mess with those unproductive idiots in power is all the Republicans fault.I realize the Demographic on this board is 95% liberal Dem so opinions will be biased.But sheesh,for every claim of incompetence and Racism the D supporters throw out there,I as someone not taking sides see the incompetence and reverse racial bullshit the Dems are throwing out(Sharpton and Jackson the two biggest stirrers of the racial pot).
Until everyone of the hard line party Kool aid drinkers try's reaching a helping hand and attitude toward the other side no progress will be made.We stand divided on almost every issue with clear thinking moderates on both sides becoming extinct in favor of far right and far left ideas.This country is split down the middle almost exactly.Before either side throws stones they need to clean up their own shit,and there is plenty to clean.

I agree with most what you said but if i remember correctly the division started when ? as soon as OBAMA took office what was the 1st thing Republicans said our main objective is to block anything Obama puts forth & as far as i see it that was the 1st shot across the bow .....It could also be that i don't know shit about what i spew ...

Jose,someone always starts it.One side or the other.Both parties have been neglect in their workmanship skills.I think we may be heading into a presidency that is a bit bit centrist this time around which is promising .
Hillary or Jeb both know how to work across the isle and have track records of bipartisan cooperation.So I guess some hope is coming.

That is exactly what scares me about these two candidates. They are known for cooperating, with the corporate powers. More citizens united shenaniganery, goodbye net neutrality, more team america world police, goodbye hopes of a good version of ACA, more tax cuts for the top 1%, goodbye small businesses.... A continuation of the Clinton or Bush dynasty is not what we need to reclaim our democratic principles.

rr165892

Gambs,I think is happen ending regardless of candidate or party.Its systemic.Until we only let politicians serve 1 term and they do away with the need for reelection funds.

bootlegger10

polaris_x said:

Millennials are born in the age of entitlement ... narcissists ... they all vote conservative ... that's the evolution of youth ...

Inhofe to lead Senate on Environment ... that pretty much sums up american politics right there ... the corrupt and ignorant leading the charge ...

I think you have it backwards on the party seeking entitlements.

rgambs

rr165892 said:

Gambs,I think is happen ending regardless of candidate or party.Its systemic.Until we only let politicians serve 1 term and they do away with the need for reelection funds.

That's a good solutions right there. Or maybe 2 terms and a new candidacy platform. A YouTube for public service, with free, equal access...let the people decide, not the money.

josevolution

rr165892 said:

josevolution said:

rr165892 said:

As an Independent who Doesn't wear a D or an R on my sleeve it's almost comical to read the same vitriolic rhetoric being blabbed from both sides.
You hard core Dems on here are blind to think this whole mess with those unproductive idiots in power is all the Republicans fault.I realize the Demographic on this board is 95% liberal Dem so opinions will be biased.But sheesh,for every claim of incompetence and Racism the D supporters throw out there,I as someone not taking sides see the incompetence and reverse racial bullshit the Dems are throwing out(Sharpton and Jackson the two biggest stirrers of the racial pot).
Until everyone of the hard line party Kool aid drinkers try's reaching a helping hand and attitude toward the other side no progress will be made.We stand divided on almost every issue with clear thinking moderates on both sides becoming extinct in favor of far right and far left ideas.This country is split down the middle almost exactly.Before either side throws stones they need to clean up their own shit,and there is plenty to clean.

I agree with most what you said but if i remember correctly the division started when ? as soon as OBAMA took office what was the 1st thing Republicans said our main objective is to block anything Obama puts forth & as far as i see it that was the 1st shot across the bow .....It could also be that i don't know shit about what i spew ...

Jose,someone always starts it.One side or the other.Both parties have been neglect in their workmanship skills.I think we may be heading into a presidency that is a bit bit centrist this time around which is promising .
Hillary or Jeb both know how to work across the isle and have track records of bipartisan cooperation.So I guess some hope is coming.

I really hope you are correct sir cause the way these last 6 yrs or so has been a debacle as far as working with eachother for the good of the common people are concerned ....

know1

mickeyrat said:

Neither House or the Senate can or should claim any kind of mandate. When only 38% of voters show and participate then this is what you get.

Frankly I think the other 2/3's spoke very loudly. The Silence Is Deafening.

The other 2/3 need to vote out all incumbents if they want to make a difference. I'm doing this until they finally impose term limits.

mickeyrat

know1 said:

mickeyrat said:

Neither House or the Senate can or should claim any kind of mandate. When only 38% of voters show and participate then this is what you get.

Frankly I think the other 2/3's spoke very loudly. The Silence Is Deafening.

The other 2/3 need to vote out all incumbents if they want to make a difference. I'm doing this until they finally impose term limits.

well, its a reasonable argument that there are term limits each election. However the point also needs to be made that serving in either chamber wasnt necessarily intended to be a fucking retiring career choice.

I think if we aren't going to have limits in place for The Congress as a whole , then they need to remove the limit of 2 terms on the president.


Really, though unless and until every state adopts some kind of nonpartisan redistricting , nothing is going to change at all. Even with new people being voted in.

Fiance's daughter didnt vote. college student. Kind of insane if you ask me. she is picking up the last two years of her loans by herself. $$$ Liberal Arts school. Would have thought she might be more long term view on this. Shame.

riotgrl

Sad to say, I'm from KY and the boobs in this state reelected that douche McConnell. Typical drivel is that he's the lesser of two evils, there aren't any better choices, blah, blah, blah. Until voters get their head out of their ass things will never change. I've voted every which way, independent, republican, democrat and at the end of the day I think they are all the same. Out for number one and a slave to corporate interests. If American's could ever realize that these politicians are pandering to the beliefs of their constituents then they might quit electing and reelecting the same people, regardless of party affiliation, and start sending a real message. I'll start holding my breath now.

rgambs

Reid and McConnell are the WORST!

know1

riotgrl said:

Sad to say, I'm from KY and the boobs in this state reelected that douche McConnell. Typical drivel is that he's the lesser of two evils, there aren't any better choices, blah, blah, blah. Until voters get their head out of their ass things will never change. I've voted every which way, independent, republican, democrat and at the end of the day I think they are all the same. Out for number one and a slave to corporate interests. If American's could ever realize that these politicians are pandering to the beliefs of their constituents then they might quit electing and reelecting the same people, regardless of party affiliation, and start sending a real message. I'll start holding my breath now.

I agree with everything you say...including being from KY ;-)

riotgrl

know1 said:

riotgrl said:

Sad to say, I'm from KY and the boobs in this state reelected that douche McConnell. Typical drivel is that he's the lesser of two evils, there aren't any better choices, blah, blah, blah. Until voters get their head out of their ass things will never change. I've voted every which way, independent, republican, democrat and at the end of the day I think they are all the same. Out for number one and a slave to corporate interests. If American's could ever realize that these politicians are pandering to the beliefs of their constituents then they might quit electing and reelecting the same people, regardless of party affiliation, and start sending a real message. I'll start holding my breath now.

I agree with everything you say...including being from KY ;-)

I like being from KY....except for the political and religious views around here! Are you still in KY?

rr165892

Keystone Pipeline misses by one vote.Dems may have made a big mistake on this one

rgambs

rr165892 said:

Keystone Pipeline misses by one vote.Dems may have made a big mistake on this one

What do you mean?

gimmesometruth27

rr165892 said:

Keystone Pipeline misses by one vote.Dems may have made a big mistake on this one

how so?

they are for alternative energy. why abandon one of the cornerstones of their platform and to the exact opposite?

rr165892

It will cost Landrieu her senate run off race.She was a big supporter.Also I think it will create more gridlock on other items they want to get done as the Rep will find a way to fuck w them.

rr165892

I personally see both the positive and neg about the pipeline.I can say I was interested in seeing if it would have an effect on our importation numbers of Middle eastern or South American crude.

gimmesometruth27

rr165892 said:

It will cost Landrieu her senate run off race.She was a big supporter.Also I think it will create more gridlock on other items they want to get done as the Rep will find a way to fuck w them.

good riddance to her. she should have lost when she ran last time. she is a weak democrat. she pretty much asked to have her name attached to the pipeline bill that passed the house. her sponsorship of this senate bill was a hail mary attempt to save her seat, and everyone in the country knows it.

gimmesometruth27

plus, the way i see it, if you run your campaign away from the president, the leader of your own party, you deserve to pay the political price for it.