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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    He was only shot and wounded. The guy shooting the gun fucked up- he never shot him dead. I thought the had. My thoughts here are that he must have been a piss poor shot.

    I mean... if people are getting shot dead for talking too loudly in the movie theater... it's natural to assume that people would be getting shot dead for chopping people's heads off. What the hell is the NRA teaching people these days? The gun toters don't even know who they're supposed to shoot.

    Sheesh.

    * Now we do have to feel sorry for this guy.

    Ha! I have no pity for this guy.

    But yeah, he was hit multiple times but apparently not in the "right" spot(s).

    Also, as a stranger, my thoughts have gone toward this woman's family more than several times today since reading the article. How on earth her family deals with it is beyond me.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Chad you talked about light pollution.I couldn't agree more.Nothing like grabbing some beers,Heading somewhere dark.Put on some tunes,drop a tailgate and enjoy some stars.And you couldn't be more correct about Country/Southern girls.We twist that up and throw the beach into the mix.Wow,just wow!!!
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    I might have to re-think my position. I'm not disappointed in lenient gun laws after hearing about this story:

    Just today... this shitwad was busy decapitating people until someone shot him dead: Nolen, who was fired from the food processing plant, had beheaded a woman with a knife and was attacking another worker when he was shot and wounded by a company official, police said Friday.
    http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/woman-beheaded-at-oklahoma-food-processing-plant

    If this person hadn't put this dickhead out of commission... we'd be forced to listen to how unfortunate his upbringing was and how we owed this really nice and misunderstood human being our best efforts to give him another kick at the can (he had already spent time in prison and was currently on probation for assaulting a police officer).

    * He assaulted a police officer? And never got shot? I guess not all cops are trigger happy, small-dicked dirtbags just itching to waste people, eh?

    Is it your life mission to drag the death penalty into every conversation or space where you see a little room? Fixate much?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited September 2014
    rgambs said:

    Rednecks give country folks a bad name. None of those definitions were even close to accurate. A redneck is the lowest rural class, just like gangbangers are the lowest urban class. Neither group has any class, they break the law too much, and shirk responsibility for themselves while paradoxically claiming to have "never been given anything". The idea that southerners are more self-sufficient is a cultural lie that is disproved by federal "welfare" distribution figures. Same goes for "hoodrats" or whatever offensive name outsiders label them with.
    Here is the crazy part...culturally these fringe groups are able to taint the impression given by those who have class in their immediate vicinity largely by the classier folks' acceptance of the classless' cultural failings. Hence the popularity of terrible country songs with idiotic faux-patriot lyrics and rap songs with violent, sexist lyrics. Hence the popularity of trucks and guns for ruritans, and Cadillacs and bling for urbanites. It is insane. Songs like Red Solo Cup and artists like Nicki Minaj, this isn't a case of bad taste, it's an idiotic, misguided cultural alignment that effects probably millions who should be smart enough to know better.

    Says the guy who out beards ZZ Too and all of Appalachia.lol
    And I do agree with a lot of what you said here.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    rgambs said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    I might have to re-think my position. I'm not disappointed in lenient gun laws after hearing about this story:

    Just today... this shitwad was busy decapitating people until someone shot him dead: Nolen, who was fired from the food processing plant, had beheaded a woman with a knife and was attacking another worker when he was shot and wounded by a company official, police said Friday.
    http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/woman-beheaded-at-oklahoma-food-processing-plant

    If this person hadn't put this dickhead out of commission... we'd be forced to listen to how unfortunate his upbringing was and how we owed this really nice and misunderstood human being our best efforts to give him another kick at the can (he had already spent time in prison and was currently on probation for assaulting a police officer).

    * He assaulted a police officer? And never got shot? I guess not all cops are trigger happy, small-dicked dirtbags just itching to waste people, eh?

    Is it your life mission to drag the death penalty into every conversation or space where you see a little room? Fixate much?
    Oh come on. You think you don't flaunt your high, mighty, and unchallengeable positions when the moments to do so present themselves?

    This thread is titled 'Good Guy Stops Attack'. My contribution was entirely on thread even if I added my accent to it. So... you know what you can do, eh? Seriously.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    rgambs said:

    Rednecks give country folks a bad name. None of those definitions were even close to accurate. A redneck is the lowest rural class, just like gangbangers are the lowest urban class. Neither group has any class, they break the law too much, and shirk responsibility for themselves while paradoxically claiming to have "never been given anything". The idea that southerners are more self-sufficient is a cultural lie that is disproved by federal "welfare" distribution figures. Same goes for "hoodrats" or whatever offensive name outsiders label them with.
    Here is the crazy part...culturally these fringe groups are able to taint the impression given by those who have class in their immediate vicinity largely by the classier folks' acceptance of the classless' cultural failings. Hence the popularity of terrible country songs with idiotic faux-patriot lyrics and rap songs with violent, sexist lyrics. Hence the popularity of trucks and guns for ruritans, and Cadillacs and bling for urbanites. It is insane. Songs like Red Solo Cup and artists like Nicki Minaj, this isn't a case of bad taste, it's an idiotic, misguided cultural alignment that effects probably millions who should be smart enough to know better.

    Says the guy who out beards ZZ Too and all of Appalachia.lol
    And I do agree with a lot of what you said here.
    Gibbons and Hill have me beat on length...but I don't hold cotton with that wispy style...if you can see neck through it, its time to trim the tails. I believe in a Blackbeard style, dense and impenetrable! That's a real beard, those Duck Dynasty guys have wispy little pussy willows. They need to trim them back to where the power stops and let those pussy willows go!

    *Disclaimer* I have never seen a single bit of Duck Dynasty outside of their faces on TShirts. I thoroughly dislike them and their style based of what I have heard from the general public, which seems to think I would be a fan because I too have hair on my face.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    rgambs said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    I might have to re-think my position. I'm not disappointed in lenient gun laws after hearing about this story:

    Just today... this shitwad was busy decapitating people until someone shot him dead: Nolen, who was fired from the food processing plant, had beheaded a woman with a knife and was attacking another worker when he was shot and wounded by a company official, police said Friday.
    http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/woman-beheaded-at-oklahoma-food-processing-plant

    If this person hadn't put this dickhead out of commission... we'd be forced to listen to how unfortunate his upbringing was and how we owed this really nice and misunderstood human being our best efforts to give him another kick at the can (he had already spent time in prison and was currently on probation for assaulting a police officer).

    * He assaulted a police officer? And never got shot? I guess not all cops are trigger happy, small-dicked dirtbags just itching to waste people, eh?

    Is it your life mission to drag the death penalty into every conversation or space where you see a little room? Fixate much?
    Not sure there's any fixation - from here, I find it ironic that valuable doctors and nurses are working to heal / save this guy, who sliced the head off an innocent.

  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited September 2014
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    rgambs said:

    Rednecks give country folks a bad name. None of those definitions were even close to accurate. A redneck is the lowest rural class, just like gangbangers are the lowest urban class. Neither group has any class, they break the law too much, and shirk responsibility for themselves while paradoxically claiming to have "never been given anything". The idea that southerners are more self-sufficient is a cultural lie that is disproved by federal "welfare" distribution figures. Same goes for "hoodrats" or whatever offensive name outsiders label them with.
    Here is the crazy part...culturally these fringe groups are able to taint the impression given by those who have class in their immediate vicinity largely by the classier folks' acceptance of the classless' cultural failings. Hence the popularity of terrible country songs with idiotic faux-patriot lyrics and rap songs with violent, sexist lyrics. Hence the popularity of trucks and guns for ruritans, and Cadillacs and bling for urbanites. It is insane. Songs like Red Solo Cup and artists like Nicki Minaj, this isn't a case of bad taste, it's an idiotic, misguided cultural alignment that effects probably millions who should be smart enough to know better.

    Says the guy who out beards ZZ Too and all of Appalachia.lol
    And I do agree with a lot of what you said here.
    Gibbons and Hill have me beat on length...but I don't hold cotton with that wispy style...if you can see neck through it, its time to trim the tails. I believe in a Blackbeard style, dense and impenetrable! That's a real beard, those Duck Dynasty guys have wispy little pussy willows. They need to trim them back to where the power stops and let those pussy willows go!

    *Disclaimer* I have never seen a single bit of Duck Dynasty outside of their faces on TShirts. I thoroughly dislike them and their style based of what I have heard from the general public, which seems to think I would be a fan because I too have hair on my face.
    Hipster beard is what your saying.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited September 2014
    hedonist said:

    rgambs said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    I might have to re-think my position. I'm not disappointed in lenient gun laws after hearing about this story:

    Just today... this shitwad was busy decapitating people until someone shot him dead: Nolen, who was fired from the food processing plant, had beheaded a woman with a knife and was attacking another worker when he was shot and wounded by a company official, police said Friday.
    http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/woman-beheaded-at-oklahoma-food-processing-plant

    If this person hadn't put this dickhead out of commission... we'd be forced to listen to how unfortunate his upbringing was and how we owed this really nice and misunderstood human being our best efforts to give him another kick at the can (he had already spent time in prison and was currently on probation for assaulting a police officer).

    * He assaulted a police officer? And never got shot? I guess not all cops are trigger happy, small-dicked dirtbags just itching to waste people, eh?

    Is it your life mission to drag the death penalty into every conversation or space where you see a little room? Fixate much?
    Not sure there's any fixation - from here, I find it ironic that valuable doctors and nurses are working to heal / save this guy, who sliced the head off an innocent.

    It's a waste of time and money.He shoulda been left to bleed out.There is no doubt he is guilty of pre meditated murder.Witnessed by many. This is the kind of swift death penalty case I was talking about in the other thread.
    I heard there might also be a fundamentalist component here.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    rgambs said:

    Rednecks give country folks a bad name. None of those definitions were even close to accurate. A redneck is the lowest rural class, just like gangbangers are the lowest urban class. Neither group has any class, they break the law too much, and shirk responsibility for themselves while paradoxically claiming to have "never been given anything". The idea that southerners are more self-sufficient is a cultural lie that is disproved by federal "welfare" distribution figures. Same goes for "hoodrats" or whatever offensive name outsiders label them with.
    Here is the crazy part...culturally these fringe groups are able to taint the impression given by those who have class in their immediate vicinity largely by the classier folks' acceptance of the classless' cultural failings. Hence the popularity of terrible country songs with idiotic faux-patriot lyrics and rap songs with violent, sexist lyrics. Hence the popularity of trucks and guns for ruritans, and Cadillacs and bling for urbanites. It is insane. Songs like Red Solo Cup and artists like Nicki Minaj, this isn't a case of bad taste, it's an idiotic, misguided cultural alignment that effects probably millions who should be smart enough to know better.

    Says the guy who out beards ZZ Too and all of Appalachia.lol
    And I do agree with a lot of what you said here.
    Gibbons and Hill have me beat on length...but I don't hold cotton with that wispy style...if you can see neck through it, its time to trim the tails. I believe in a Blackbeard style, dense and impenetrable! That's a real beard, those Duck Dynasty guys have wispy little pussy willows. They need to trim them back to where the power stops and let those pussy willows go!

    *Disclaimer* I have never seen a single bit of Duck Dynasty outside of their faces on TShirts. I thoroughly dislike them and their style based of what I have heard from the general public, which seems to think I would be a fan because I too have hair on my face.
    Hipster beard is what your saying.
    Wow. Total fucking insult, I find it hard to believe you meant it any other way. Nobody calls someone hipster unless they are considered to be phony, and how many hipsters do you meet outside of urban environments? I'm a country boy in ways you wouldn't understand in Florida, and my beard is closer to religiously motivated than any other reason, despite my atheism. My beard is natural as fuck, which I doubt you could say for your face which you probably scrape with sharp metal blades so you can fit in with your pretentious, phony cronies. Put on your monkey suit and go make some greenbacks, that will make you respectable. I'll go to my garden and grow some veggies, milk some goats, and not spare a damn thought about your conservative money-hungry values until its time to drop trou and take a shit.
    Maybe leave the judgements out and I will do the same.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited September 2014
    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    rgambs said:

    Rednecks give country folks a bad name. None of those definitions were even close to accurate. A redneck is the lowest rural class, just like gangbangers are the lowest urban class. Neither group has any class, they break the law too much, and shirk responsibility for themselves while paradoxically claiming to have "never been given anything". The idea that southerners are more self-sufficient is a cultural lie that is disproved by federal "welfare" distribution figures. Same goes for "hoodrats" or whatever offensive name outsiders label them with.
    Here is the crazy part...culturally these fringe groups are able to taint the impression given by those who have class in their immediate vicinity largely by the classier folks' acceptance of the classless' cultural failings. Hence the popularity of terrible country songs with idiotic faux-patriot lyrics and rap songs with violent, sexist lyrics. Hence the popularity of trucks and guns for ruritans, and Cadillacs and bling for urbanites. It is insane. Songs like Red Solo Cup and artists like Nicki Minaj, this isn't a case of bad taste, it's an idiotic, misguided cultural alignment that effects probably millions who should be smart enough to know better.

    Says the guy who out beards ZZ Too and all of Appalachia.lol
    And I do agree with a lot of what you said here.
    Gibbons and Hill have me beat on length...but I don't hold cotton with that wispy style...if you can see neck through it, its time to trim the tails. I believe in a Blackbeard style, dense and impenetrable! That's a real beard, those Duck Dynasty guys have wispy little pussy willows. They need to trim them back to where the power stops and let those pussy willows go!

    *Disclaimer* I have never seen a single bit of Duck Dynasty outside of their faces on TShirts. I thoroughly dislike them and their style based of what I have heard from the general public, which seems to think I would be a fan because I too have hair on my face.
    Hipster beard is what your saying.
    Wow. Total fucking insult, I find it hard to believe you meant it any other way. Nobody calls someone hipster unless they are considered to be phony, and how many hipsters do you meet outside of urban environments? I'm a country boy in ways you wouldn't understand in Florida, and my beard is closer to religiously motivated than any other reason, despite my atheism. My beard is natural as fuck, which I doubt you could say for your face which you probably scrape with sharp metal blades so you can fit in with your pretentious, phony cronies. Put on your monkey suit and go make some greenbacks, that will make you respectable. I'll go to my garden and grow some veggies, milk some goats, and not spare a damn thought about your conservative money-hungry values until its time to drop trou and take a shit.
    Maybe leave the judgements out and I will do the same.
    Lay off the caffeine Gambs,I was playing as you can clearly see from my last 2 comments about your beard.Relax,I will call you Gandolph or Jeddadiah if that is more comfortable to ya.Sheesh,a little sensitive today my friend.How you read that as anything but keeping playful I'm not sure.If I wanted to get YOU going I woulda brought up Immigration.But If I offended you it def wasn't my intention.I apologize.I throw Hipster around,just like Redneck.Not a big deal in a playful context.
    And I'm rocking a 5 day growth right now for what its worth.Never a monkey suit on rr.Jeans or Shorts only.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    My dog kicked me all night so I needed to do some kicking myself. For someone my age, with my values, hipster is about as low as you can go!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    easy fellas, let's keep it civil.

    besides, hipsters are good for somethings....like gentrifying neighborhoods

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    edited September 2014
    I think a thread bashing hipsters might finally be the thing that brings us all together.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Indeed. I'm on board with that. I'm into craft beer so there's way too many around.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    hedonist said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    I might have to re-think my position. I'm not disappointed in lenient gun laws after hearing about this story:

    Just today... this shitwad was busy decapitating people until someone shot him dead: Nolen, who was fired from the food processing plant, had beheaded a woman with a knife and was attacking another worker when he was shot and wounded by a company official, police said Friday.
    http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/woman-beheaded-at-oklahoma-food-processing-plant

    If this person hadn't put this dickhead out of commission... we'd be forced to listen to how unfortunate his upbringing was and how we owed this really nice and misunderstood human being our best efforts to give him another kick at the can (he had already spent time in prison and was currently on probation for assaulting a police officer).

    * He assaulted a police officer? And never got shot? I guess not all cops are trigger happy, small-dicked dirtbags just itching to waste people, eh?

    Yup - this was in another thread as well, Thirty. Mind-boggling - how do you just go and CUT SOMEONE'S HEAD OFF?

    Also, if I recall correctly, he was fired and then went straight to the violence. So, did he have a knife already with him (and one capable of beheading)?

    Fucked up is what it is. Wish I had more eloquent words for it, but yeah. Utterly fucked up.
    It was a food processing plant. Handling a knife capable of beheading was probably part of the job description.

    http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/09/pastor-said-ups-shooter-kerry-joe-tesney-was-having-problems-with-work-and-finances-107461.html

    It's funny how we have 2 very similar stories about disgruntled employees going killing former coworkers with 2 very different narratives.

    One story has pictures of the culprit posted all over the internet within hours. Criticism of his religion. No mention of his family or personal life, but his rap sheet is on full display.

    The other story interviews his pastor: "he was having problems at work but never suggested the situation might turn violent". Talks about his wife, and their dreams to start a business together. No mention of whether there is a criminal history, much less how he acquired his gun and what permits he had.

    It's also quite telling that your initial reactions are "shoot to kill". Not really helping, it just gives the image of another trigger happy gun-owner waiting for the opportunity to exercise vigilante justice. For people who give so much weight to the law and their right to own a gun for defense; you certainly have a complete disregard for due process. Just looking for a chance to play judge, jury and executioner.

    IF it turns out to be the case, I respect the gentleman's restraint in not killing Alton Nolen.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I'm not sure if your post was directed toward me, but since you quoted what I wrote earlier I'l assume it is.

    How you drew those conclusions up there, I don't get. Trigger-happy? Vigilante justice? The dude beheaded one person, was stabbing another, and was stopped by an armed employee. Yeah, I'm glad the carnage didn't continue and had he died, I doubt I'd have a problem with that. And I've not once mentioned his religion and what was mentioned in the articles I read.

    Please take your advice, and try not be so quick to judge others either.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    http://youtu.be/je8xzQd6YEo
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    thank you, hedonist
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