Another good guy stops attack

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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    I was rocking that shit in the early 70s and pairing it with plaid.Dont we all have a pic like that taken in some green and yellow horrible kitchen?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Hahaha a decade later all my kid pics are in orange and brown living rooms
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Made me think of the Brady Bunch kitchen.

    I LOVE my childhood home - old Spanish / Mediterranean / Art-Deco-ish style, beautiful colored tiles in the kitchen and bathrooms, archways, original sconces.

    But MY GOD, the dark olive green shag carpet throughout the place. And there was gorgeous hardwood underneath.
  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    hedonist said:

    Made me think of the Brady Bunch kitchen.

    I LOVE my childhood home - old Spanish / Mediterranean / Art-Deco-ish style, beautiful colored tiles in the kitchen and bathrooms, archways, original sconces.

    But MY GOD, the dark olive green shag carpet throughout the place. And there was gorgeous hardwood underneath.

    Sounds nice I like wooden floors, was there any sun in the house during the day
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    JWPearl said:

    hedonist said:

    Made me think of the Brady Bunch kitchen.

    I LOVE my childhood home - old Spanish / Mediterranean / Art-Deco-ish style, beautiful colored tiles in the kitchen and bathrooms, archways, original sconces.

    But MY GOD, the dark olive green shag carpet throughout the place. And there was gorgeous hardwood underneath.

    Sounds nice I like wooden floors, was there any sun in the house during the day
    Yup, front of the home faced west and back east, so we got sunrises and sets plus the nicest cross-breezes when the windows were open - those old slatted windows that were a bitch to clean, too.

    Ha! We've all gone completely off-topic, but the nostalgia's sure been nice.
  • JWPearlJWPearl Posts: 19,893
    That sounds perfect, my mum would love that too, she loves wooden floors, was just speaking to her about it and she thinks the best way to go aside from marble if thats what I want to do someday
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,604

    I might have to re-think my position. I'm not disappointed in lenient gun laws after hearing about this story:

    Just today... this shitwad was busy decapitating people until someone shot him dead: Nolen, who was fired from the food processing plant, had beheaded a woman with a knife and was attacking another worker when he was shot and wounded by a company official, police said Friday.
    http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/woman-beheaded-at-oklahoma-food-processing-plant

    If this person hadn't put this dickhead out of commission... we'd be forced to listen to how unfortunate his upbringing was and how we owed this really nice and misunderstood human being our best efforts to give him another kick at the can (he had already spent time in prison and was currently on probation for assaulting a police officer).

    * He assaulted a police officer? And never got shot? I guess not all cops are trigger happy, small-dicked dirtbags just itching to waste people, eh?

    Off duty reserve deputy sheriff suggests better training than tom dick or harry down the street.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927


    Exactly what are you trying to say when you compare the two stories and the manner in which they are told? What's your point?

    As for the 'shoot to kill' reaction you admonish us barbarians for... speaking for myself... I don't know what came over me thinking it was an appropriate course of action given one severed head was rolling around on the floor and 'Alton Nolen' was working on another one.

    Just because you're happy Alton survived the gunshot wound he endured while trying to lop off another head doesn't mean everyone else should be as well. Given his actions and whether right or wrong, some people view Alton as a lower form of life than the mosquito you crush as it lands on your arm.

    It's just interesting how two equally heinous crimes are portrayed in the media. One guy is a religious zealot, the other is a wholesome Christian that went to church each day. What's the difference? It happens time & time again, one kid is gangster who smoked pot and listened to the rap music; one kid is a straight-A student who kept to himself and his parents can't imagine how he got into trouble. It's just amazing to me how a kid that mowed down a bunch of people in a movie theater gets taken alive, and another with a pellet gun he picked up off the store shelf ends up dead.

    So you're a country boy whose daddy had a gun, all your neighbors have guns, and your friends too. It's just your way of life. What does it matter if you need to defend yourself from rabid wildlife, lunatics with knives, disgruntled coworkers, armed robbers, drive by shootings or rival gangs? Because that kid in the city, his daddy had a gun, his neighbors all have guns, and so do his friends. It's just his way of life. Either way, to me, someone who needs a gun everyday to feel safe is just waiting for a chance to use it. When all you have is a hammer, suddenly every problem looks like a nail. Country folk don't have a monopoly on gun culture, but you're certainly more likely to be a victim.

    Common citizens with little to no training just waiting for their turn to play police. Who conceal/carry with a quick class and minimal regulation. Or who can just as easily get a gun either off the street or at Walmart. And now we have a society that's armed to teeth. Cops don't know when a common traffic stop is going to devolve into a shoot out. They fear for their lives and have to strap on a vest everyday. They conduct no-knock raids, use excessive force, and act like a paramilitary force. The problem continues to escalate.

    You say the reason you carry a weapon is because the police can't be everywhere all the time. I would say your need to carry a weapon has resulted in a police-state.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    mickeyrat said:

    I might have to re-think my position. I'm not disappointed in lenient gun laws after hearing about this story:

    Just today... this shitwad was busy decapitating people until someone shot him dead: Nolen, who was fired from the food processing plant, had beheaded a woman with a knife and was attacking another worker when he was shot and wounded by a company official, police said Friday.
    http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/woman-beheaded-at-oklahoma-food-processing-plant

    If this person hadn't put this dickhead out of commission... we'd be forced to listen to how unfortunate his upbringing was and how we owed this really nice and misunderstood human being our best efforts to give him another kick at the can (he had already spent time in prison and was currently on probation for assaulting a police officer).

    * He assaulted a police officer? And never got shot? I guess not all cops are trigger happy, small-dicked dirtbags just itching to waste people, eh?

    Off duty reserve deputy sheriff suggests better training than tom dick or harry down the street.
    We will have relative rare instances where gun guy takes positive action. Doesn't negate the other thousands that die due to guns.
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    who gives a fuck? they guy is a fucking nutjob. can we control how the media reports news? not really. as long as evil turds are stopped with whatever force needs be we all should be thrilled
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    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    i'm very certain we are not living here in mild-as-heckville

    http://youtu.be/Vtc7A67kZlQ
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • CM189191 said:


    Exactly what are you trying to say when you compare the two stories and the manner in which they are told? What's your point?

    As for the 'shoot to kill' reaction you admonish us barbarians for... speaking for myself... I don't know what came over me thinking it was an appropriate course of action given one severed head was rolling around on the floor and 'Alton Nolen' was working on another one.

    Just because you're happy Alton survived the gunshot wound he endured while trying to lop off another head doesn't mean everyone else should be as well. Given his actions and whether right or wrong, some people view Alton as a lower form of life than the mosquito you crush as it lands on your arm.

    It's just interesting how two equally heinous crimes are portrayed in the media. One guy is a religious zealot, the other is a wholesome Christian that went to church each day. What's the difference? It happens time & time again, one kid is gangster who smoked pot and listened to the rap music; one kid is a straight-A student who kept to himself and his parents can't imagine how he got into trouble. It's just amazing to me how a kid that mowed down a bunch of people in a movie theater gets taken alive, and another with a pellet gun he picked up off the store shelf ends up dead.

    So you're a country boy whose daddy had a gun, all your neighbors have guns, and your friends too. It's just your way of life. What does it matter if you need to defend yourself from rabid wildlife, lunatics with knives, disgruntled coworkers, armed robbers, drive by shootings or rival gangs? Because that kid in the city, his daddy had a gun, his neighbors all have guns, and so do his friends. It's just his way of life. Either way, to me, someone who needs a gun everyday to feel safe is just waiting for a chance to use it. When all you have is a hammer, suddenly every problem looks like a nail. Country folk don't have a monopoly on gun culture, but you're certainly more likely to be a victim.

    Common citizens with little to no training just waiting for their turn to play police. Who conceal/carry with a quick class and minimal regulation. Or who can just as easily get a gun either off the street or at Walmart. And now we have a society that's armed to teeth. Cops don't know when a common traffic stop is going to devolve into a shoot out. They fear for their lives and have to strap on a vest everyday. They conduct no-knock raids, use excessive force, and act like a paramilitary force. The problem continues to escalate.

    You say the reason you carry a weapon is because the police can't be everywhere all the time. I would say your need to carry a weapon has resulted in a police-state.
    I think you have me confused with someone. I don't live in the country and would never disrespect them as you seemed to have done in this post with such subtle fashion.

    I am for very strict gun control. I don't believe any citizen needs a handgun, assault rifle, or large capacity magazine. I do believe people are entitled to hunting rifles if they qualify with training and background checks.

    I also question the need to own weaponry for people who live in townhomes or apartments and never leave the city. I would concede to you that I have much experience hunting and fishing. Shooting the food we ate was a pastime for my father and I as I grew up. My father gave up shooting the animals we hunted with a gun for shooting them with a camera. I would make no judgements on anyone who hunts and I understand that way of life.

    However, any gun not used to support such a way of life falls into the 'novelty' or 'toy' category for me. With that said, I struggle to understand the resistance to put aside 'toys' in the interest of public safety. If you want a cool gun... go get a paintball gun and fire at a live target without killing it. It seems infinitely greater than sporting ear protection and shooting at a paper target.

    What cannot be argued though- in the context of this thread titled 'Another Good Guy Stops Attack'- is that the side arguing for guns have scored a point. I was really glad someone had a gun to stop this shitbird from decapitating people. As Chadwick said, in this particular instance we can be thankful ('thrilled' was his term I believe). I did lament the fact that he wasn't fatally injured which prompted a few gasps from some, however I still feel the same because really... the 'beheader' is less than a worm in my eyes.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    When the narrative is "another good guy with a gun stops attack" it only serves to make people feel good about themselves for carrying a gun. Because it makes them feel safe? When the honest truth is, the prevalence of guns in our society does more harm than good. The 'good guy' narrative is a fallacy. Here you have one instance where a trained off duty reserve deputy sheriff is at the right place at the right time. And gun owners use this one example to justify carrying gun around with them everyday for safety. Common logic and reasoning shows that guns are doing more harm than good in our society on a daily basis. But all I'm hearing here is "good guy stops attack" so the answer to our gun problem is obviously more guns! More guns for everyone, then we won't have a gun problem anymore! Yay guns!

    Meanwhile....
    http://breakingnews.suntimes.com/crime/2-killed-12-wounded-in-south-side-shootings-since-friday-afternoon/
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,604
    callen said:

    mickeyrat said:

    I might have to re-think my position. I'm not disappointed in lenient gun laws after hearing about this story:

    Just today... this shitwad was busy decapitating people until someone shot him dead: Nolen, who was fired from the food processing plant, had beheaded a woman with a knife and was attacking another worker when he was shot and wounded by a company official, police said Friday.
    http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/woman-beheaded-at-oklahoma-food-processing-plant

    If this person hadn't put this dickhead out of commission... we'd be forced to listen to how unfortunate his upbringing was and how we owed this really nice and misunderstood human being our best efforts to give him another kick at the can (he had already spent time in prison and was currently on probation for assaulting a police officer).

    * He assaulted a police officer? And never got shot? I guess not all cops are trigger happy, small-dicked dirtbags just itching to waste people, eh?

    Off duty reserve deputy sheriff suggests better training than tom dick or harry down the street.
    We will have relative rare instances where gun guy takes positive action. Doesn't negate the other thousands that die due to guns.
    My point was according to the article this "good guy" was also a reserve sheriff deputy. So it stands to reason certain training was required with regular qualification tests.

    So he wasnt just a "citizen" who happened to be carrying.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    chadwick said:

    who gives a fuck? they guy is a fucking nutjob. can we control how the media reports news? not really. as long as evil turds are stopped with whatever force needs be we all should be thrilled

    Agree dude pos. Saying if everyone packed there would be more people killed.
    mickeyrat said:

    callen said:

    mickeyrat said:

    I might have to re-think my position. I'm not disappointed in lenient gun laws after hearing about this story:

    Just today... this shitwad was busy decapitating people until someone shot him dead: Nolen, who was fired from the food processing plant, had beheaded a woman with a knife and was attacking another worker when he was shot and wounded by a company official, police said Friday.
    http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/woman-beheaded-at-oklahoma-food-processing-plant

    If this person hadn't put this dickhead out of commission... we'd be forced to listen to how unfortunate his upbringing was and how we owed this really nice and misunderstood human being our best efforts to give him another kick at the can (he had already spent time in prison and was currently on probation for assaulting a police officer).

    * He assaulted a police officer? And never got shot? I guess not all cops are trigger happy, small-dicked dirtbags just itching to waste people, eh?

    Off duty reserve deputy sheriff suggests better training than tom dick or harry down the street.
    We will have relative rare instances where gun guy takes positive action. Doesn't negate the other thousands that die due to guns.
    My point was according to the article this "good guy" was also a reserve sheriff deputy. So it stands to reason certain training was required with regular qualification tests.

    So he wasnt just a "citizen" who happened to be carrying.
    Yes missed that. Shouldn't have attached my comment with yours.
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    w/out a doubt many, many & many more should not ever even look at a gun. just because it is a right, does not mean many are

    something like that
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    I just had to turn down a job offer because I am not willing to shave my very neatly trimmed beard off completely. I shouldn't even have trimmed it for their dumb asses. This country is all fucked up, they have no other qualified applicants, but they can't afford to have a beard scaring off customers.
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  • rgambs said:

    I just had to turn down a job offer because I am not willing to shave my very neatly trimmed beard off completely. I shouldn't even have trimmed it for their dumb asses. This country is all fucked up, they have no other qualified applicants, but they can't afford to have a beard scaring off customers.

    Hmmmm.

    In an earlier post, you became insulted and hostile at the gentle poke taken at you for being a 'hipster' decreeing: "My beard is natural as fuck."

    Two things:

    1. In another thread, you said people need to 'sack up' when their feelings get hurt. For future reference, you might wish to follow this advice.

    2. If you were going to compromise yourself... why not go all the way? If this job was worth it to 'trim' your beard... why not shave it off and secure the job? After landing it and no doubtedly performing very well... you could have grown scruffy back with likely no resistance!
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    I did sack up, that's why I fired back, and then let it go cuz it's no biggie. I didn't drag it out and get the mods involved, precisely due to said sack. Trims come and go anyways, I'm not concerned with that, it was no big capitulation, but there is a huge difference between a trim and daily shaving. It was my plan to shave and then grow back but I found out they fired longstanding employees for failing to shave when the policy was first implemented so that isn't going to work unfortunately. It's resolute and so, sadly, I must be as well.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Did you call the ACLU? Maybe they can help...

    Or do what I did: get job, then grow beard.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,172
    Is it any worse or different than a dress code?
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    rgambs said:

    I just had to turn down a job offer because I am not willing to shave my very neatly trimmed beard off completely. I shouldn't even have trimmed it for their dumb asses. This country is all fucked up, they have no other qualified applicants, but they can't afford to have a beard scaring off customers.

    The Steinbrenner family has made the policy on facial hair quite clear over the years. You should have known that going in.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    CM189191 said:

    Did you call the ACLU? Maybe they can help...

    Or do what I did: get job, then grow beard.

    That was the plan, I have employed it with success before, but I found out they have fired longstanding employees for facial hair before. I'm surprised/not at all that they haven't been sued... I'm not one to get litigious..
    JimmyV said:

    Is it any worse or different than a dress code?

    I think it is. Asking a person to dress a certain way is one thing, asking a person to physically alter their bodies is another thing altogether. Would it be acceptable to require a person to lose weight? For a woman to have long hair or large breasts? Would it be OK require a woman to wear a Pixie cut? I find all these to be unacceptable when a candidate is qualified.

    Jason P said:

    rgambs said:

    I just had to turn down a job offer because I am not willing to shave my very neatly trimmed beard off completely. I shouldn't even have trimmed it for their dumb asses. This country is all fucked up, they have no other qualified applicants, but they can't afford to have a beard scaring off customers.

    The Steinbrenner family has made the policy on facial hair quite clear over the years. You should have known that going in.
    I know, now I gotta go back to the minors :-)
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    buncha fuckin light weight candy asses runnin companies where a guy can't have facial hair goin on. you might should slap them next chance you get... wait don't! a good guy might have a gun. he'll be whiskerless & wearing skinny ass tight jeans like a woman
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    chadwick said:

    buncha fuckin light weight candy asses runnin companies where a guy can't have facial hair goin on. you might should slap them next chance you get... wait don't! a good guy might have a gun. he'll be whiskerless & wearing skinny ass tight jeans like a woman

    And rolled up at the ankle.But where would they carry? Those jeans would be a bitch to conceal a weapon in.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    chadwick said:

    buncha fuckin light weight candy asses runnin companies where a guy can't have facial hair goin on. you might should slap them next chance you get... wait don't! a good guy might have a gun. he'll be whiskerless & wearing skinny ass tight jeans like a woman

    And rolled up at the ankle.But where would they carry? Those jeans would be a bitch to conceal a weapon in.
    There's an obvious joke in there about it being obvious they aren't packin'! LoL
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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    chadwick said:

    buncha fuckin light weight candy asses runnin companies where a guy can't have facial hair goin on. you might should slap them next chance you get... wait don't! a good guy might have a gun. he'll be whiskerless & wearing skinny ass tight jeans like a woman

    And rolled up at the ankle.But where would they carry? Those jeans would be a bitch to conceal a weapon in.
    There's an obvious joke in there about it being obvious they aren't packin'! LoL
    There was a couple different ways We could have went with that one for sure.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Gambs,is your chosen field in something that would require face masks or respirators.I know a bunch of Fire /Medics that are not able to have beards due to the fit or snugness of the respirator.
    I know a couple of fields also where facial and neck ink will not hired.
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Guns are only a liability for people who suck at life
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,172

    Guns are only a liability for people who suck at life

    And for people who get shot. Or robbed at gunpoint. Or worse.
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