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To me, I think the most important thing you mentioned is the idea of motion. Automobiles are by far the best/easiest to use imagery to represent the idea of motion. It carries our main charatcer from the beginning of the album to the end. Obviously the idealogy of YIELD that we hold so dear couldn't work without this idea of motion being involved. What I mean by that is you can't get from "point A" to "point b" without both some kind of motion and some method of creating that motion.
--"I'm like an opening band for the sun"
--"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
To me, I think the most important thing you mentioned is the idea of motion. Automobiles are by far the best/easiest to use imagery to represent the idea of motion. It carries our main charatcer from the beginning of the album to the end. Obviously the idealogy of YIELD that we hold so dear couldn't work without this idea of motion being involved. What I mean by that is you can't get from "point A" to "point b" without both some kind of motion and some method of creating that motion.
Clouds roll by
Reeling is what they say
Or is it just my way?
Wind blows by,
Low light
Sidetracked, low light
Can't see my tracks,
Your scent-way back
Can I be here all alone?
Clear a path to my home
Blood runs dry
Books and jealousy tell me wrong
All I feel, calm
Voice rolls by,
Low light
Car crash, low light
Can't wear my mask,
Your first, my last
Voice goes by
Two birds is what they'll see
Getting lost upon their way
Wind rolls by,
Low light
Eye sight, low light
I need the light
I'll find my way from wrong, what's real?
Your dream I see
Clouds roll by
Reeling is what they say
Or is it just my way?
Wind blows by,
Low light
Sidetracked, low light
Can't see my tracks,
Your scent-way back
I see this verse as discussing the end part of the running away. A lot of allusion to motion again here (the clouds rolling by, wind blowing, leaving behind tracks and a scent)...These all leave me with a feeling of escape or running away. The clincher here for me is the word 'reeling'. The main character is reeling from something in his/her life. This fits PERFECTLY with our interpretation of escape.
Can I be here all alone?
Clear a path to my home
Blood runs dry
Books and jealousy tell me wrong
All I feel, calm
Voice rolls by,
Low light
Car crash, low light
Can't wear my mask,
Your first, my last
This is pure isolation and regret. Not as much motion in this verse, leading me to believe the escape is over with and now the main character is reflecting on where the escape has left him/her. Isolation (can I be here all alone), no family (blood runs dry), and confusion (books and jealousy tell me wrong).
Voice goes by
Two birds is what they'll see
Getting lost upon their way
Wind rolls by,
Low light
Eye sight, low light
I need the light
I'll find my way from wrong, what's real?
Your dream I see
Initially, this verse again refers to the problem with escapism (two birds is what they'll see, getting lost upon their way). Then we have more motion with the wind, which I think is showing a desire to go back and overcome whatever is holding us down rather than run away from it. (I need the light, I'll find my way from wrong). But it ends on such a down note. Is it too late for us? Can we really go back? What's real? The line 'your dream I see'....is he saying that this ideal reality only exists in dreams, or that with this new plan of YIELDing and overcoming we can now see this dream becoming a reality? That's the only part I struggle with.
--"I'm like an opening band for the sun"
--"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
would it be totally offbase to think that *maybe* this is being spoken by someone who is not yet fully realized to someone who is? who is on the other side? (wow.) someone who is in the process to someone who has made it out?
would it be totally offbase to think that *maybe* this is being spoken by someone who is not yet fully realized to someone who is? who is on the other side? (wow.) someone who is in the process to someone who has made it out?
That would certainly explain that last line. Which is fascinating because this whole time I've thought of the main character (ourselves) as the only protagonist. I've seen the album as self vs everyone else. This would introduce a new protagonist. Fascinating thought to ponder.
--"I'm like an opening band for the sun"
--"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
That would certainly explain that last line. Which is fascinating because this whole time I've thought of the main character (ourselves) as the only protagonist. I've seen the album as self vs everyone else. This would introduce a new protagonist. Fascinating thought to ponder.
of course we're projecting our own ideas and interpretations onto this, but I thought this angle made sense. think about the last line: "your dream, I see" followed up by PMPM.
of course we're projecting our own ideas and interpretations onto this, but I thought this angle made sense. think about the last line: "your dream, I see" followed up by PMPM.
it makes sense to me. who knows?
If it has anything to do with Master & Margarita as I would suppose, since Jeff said in some interview that Pilate was
asking the question and Low Light answering it - this situation mirrors what goes on in the book.
I'll have to look it up and re-read it, but I think you just described the end of the book.
A google search unearthed this little nugget (from the board):
"Kat
05-03-2004, 12:16 PM
Here are a few things Jeff said at the time about Pilate.
Love,
Kat
From 1998 Guitar World article:
From: Guitar World "All For One"
by Vic Garbarini
March, 1998
GW: Your songs on Yield seem too reflect that process. "Pilate" is all
frenzied frustration, while "Low Light" is like a hymn, serene and at peace.
But why does Pilate have a dog?
JA: I think "Pilate" was the question I was asking myself, and "Low Light"
was the answer, the realization. Have you ever read The Master and Margarita
[by Mikhail Bulgakov]? I just read that book, and at the end they talk about
Pontius Pilate being all alone on a mountain with his dog. He couldn't sleep
and he couldn't function. It really struck me hard, because at that point I
was feeling very alone. I've always had this recurring dream about
being old and just me and my dog sitting on the porch. It wasn't necessarily
a sad dream of a premonition, but it it did get me to thinking about why
Pilate was so alone and freaked out. Then I realized he didn't get to finish
his conversation with Jesus- *that's* why he can't function, because he
didn't tie up the loose ends in his life. Later, I was playing the guitar,
and I was hit so hard by this amazing emotion. In that moment the words "low
light" came out, and somehow those were the only words to explain what I was
feeling. It was a kind of greatfulness at finding that place of calm and
peace at my center and getting a glimpse of the person I could choose to be.
It was the purest happiness that I've experienced in a long time, that
particular emotion. God, I thought I was going to explode. I feel very
lucky to have been able to put it down on tape that morning and work through
it until it became a song."
That makes a lot of sense and pretty much fits into what we were saying. In reference to Pilate, you could argue that Pilate took the easy way out. We appeased the crowd. And he suffered isolation and confusion as a result. I think Low Light does an EXCELLENT job mirroring that feeling. Good work by Jeff on this one.
--"I'm like an opening band for the sun"
--"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
If it has anything to do with Master & Margarita as I would suppose, since Jeff said in some interview that Pilate was
asking the question and Low Light answering it - this situation mirrors what goes on in the book.
I'll have to look it up and re-read it, but I think you just described the end of the book.
A google search unearthed this little nugget (from the board):
"Kat
05-03-2004, 12:16 PM
Here are a few things Jeff said at the time about Pilate.
Love,
Kat
From 1998 Guitar World article:
From: Guitar World "All For One"
by Vic Garbarini
March, 1998
GW: Your songs on Yield seem too reflect that process. "Pilate" is all
frenzied frustration, while "Low Light" is like a hymn, serene and at peace.
But why does Pilate have a dog?
JA: I think "Pilate" was the question I was asking myself, and "Low Light"
was the answer, the realization. Have you ever read The Master and Margarita
[by Mikhail Bulgakov]? I just read that book, and at the end they talk about
Pontius Pilate being all alone on a mountain with his dog. He couldn't sleep
and he couldn't function. It really struck me hard, because at that point I
was feeling very alone. I've always had this recurring dream about
being old and just me and my dog sitting on the porch. It wasn't necessarily
a sad dream of a premonition, but it it did get me to thinking about why
Pilate was so alone and freaked out. Then I realized he didn't get to finish
his conversation with Jesus- *that's* why he can't function, because he
didn't tie up the loose ends in his life. Later, I was playing the guitar,
and I was hit so hard by this amazing emotion. In that moment the words "low
light" came out, and somehow those were the only words to explain what I was
feeling. It was a kind of greatfulness at finding that place of calm and
peace at my center and getting a glimpse of the person I could choose to be.
It was the purest happiness that I've experienced in a long time, that
particular emotion. God, I thought I was going to explode. I feel very
lucky to have been able to put it down on tape that morning and work through
it until it became a song."
edit: the quote copied twice, removed one.
I have a really stupid question. Ed wrote the lyrics to Low Light, right?
... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
If it has anything to do with Master & Margarita as I would suppose, since Jeff said in some interview that Pilate was
asking the question and Low Light answering it - this situation mirrors what goes on in the book.
I'll have to look it up and re-read it, but I think you just described the end of the book.
A google search unearthed this little nugget (from the board):
"Kat
05-03-2004, 12:16 PM
Here are a few things Jeff said at the time about Pilate.
Love,
Kat
From 1998 Guitar World article:
From: Guitar World "All For One"
by Vic Garbarini
March, 1998
GW: Your songs on Yield seem too reflect that process. "Pilate" is all
frenzied frustration, while "Low Light" is like a hymn, serene and at peace.
But why does Pilate have a dog?
JA: I think "Pilate" was the question I was asking myself, and "Low Light"
was the answer, the realization. Have you ever read The Master and Margarita
[by Mikhail Bulgakov]? I just read that book, and at the end they talk about
Pontius Pilate being all alone on a mountain with his dog. He couldn't sleep
and he couldn't function. It really struck me hard, because at that point I
was feeling very alone. I've always had this recurring dream about
being old and just me and my dog sitting on the porch. It wasn't necessarily
a sad dream of a premonition, but it it did get me to thinking about why
Pilate was so alone and freaked out. Then I realized he didn't get to finish
his conversation with Jesus- *that's* why he can't function, because he
didn't tie up the loose ends in his life. Later, I was playing the guitar,
and I was hit so hard by this amazing emotion. In that moment the words "low
light" came out, and somehow those were the only words to explain what I was
feeling. It was a kind of greatfulness at finding that place of calm and
peace at my center and getting a glimpse of the person I could choose to be.
It was the purest happiness that I've experienced in a long time, that
particular emotion. God, I thought I was going to explode. I feel very
lucky to have been able to put it down on tape that morning and work through
it until it became a song."
edit: the quote copied twice, removed one.
Wow. That's enlightening. It really gives me a totally new appreciation for Low Light, and I need to go relisten to Pilate.
Nobody has the rest of this interview lying around...?
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
Sweet! Now I have some fun reading to do at work...
I liked this one for the Jeff quote, but this sentence is all wrong, right?
Of course, hard-core fans will still be able to quickly identify those familiar Stone Gossard riffs on the roaring opener, "Brain of J," and Vedder's contemplative lyrics on "Pilate" and the hymn-like "Low Light."
That's Mike's riff and Jeff's lyrics. And he interview Mike and Jeff!
I liked this one for the Jeff quote, but this sentence is all wrong, right?
Of course, hard-core fans will still be able to quickly identify those familiar Stone Gossard riffs on the roaring opener, "Brain of J," and Vedder's contemplative lyrics on "Pilate" and the hymn-like "Low Light."
That's Mike's riff and Jeff's lyrics. And he interview Mike and Jeff!
Argh.
That's the point. If you read the next line, he tells you that the hardcore fan would be wrong to think that (I was confused and had to read it like 6 times). He just wanted to show how different this album is from the previous ones and that it breaks the mold from what we're used too.
It was a great article. Very Yieldy, all about giving yourself over and just letting things roll. Trying to get over egos and just go with the flow. I guess that really is what the album is about
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
That's the point. If you read the next line, he tells you that the hardcore fan would be wrong to think that (I was confused and had to read it like 6 times). He just wanted to show how different this album is from the previous ones and that it breaks the mold from what we're used too.
It was a great article. Very Yieldy, all about giving yourself over and just letting things roll. Trying to get over egos and just go with the flow. I guess that really is what the album is about
haa.
I haven't read this in years and my eyes hit that and I got pissed off and gave up.
Thank you for your patience.
I liked this one for the Jeff quote, but this sentence is all wrong, right?
Of course, hard-core fans will still be able to quickly identify those familiar Stone Gossard riffs on the roaring opener, "Brain of J," and Vedder's contemplative lyrics on "Pilate" and the hymn-like "Low Light."
That's Mike's riff and Jeff's lyrics. And he interview Mike and Jeff!
Argh.
Par for the course for Guitar World. When I first started playing, I subscribed to it for a year, but there were SO many inaccuracies and ridiculous opinion based articles that I never renewed my subscription.
--"I'm like an opening band for the sun"
--"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
Par for the course for Guitar World. When I first started playing, I subscribed to it for a year, but there were SO many inaccuracies and ridiculous opinion based articles that I never renewed my subscription.
Read my post on the last page (or keep reading the article) to see why it makes sense.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
Funny but dumb article. It would have made more sense had taken a magazine from the end of the year, instead of the one month after the year started... :rolleyes:
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
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I should say, my theory is your theory.
That's good...there really is a bridge with the car themes from Wishlist to Low Light.
Red dot is waiting at the stop light.
Fucking brilliant!
--"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
To me, I think the most important thing you mentioned is the idea of motion. Automobiles are by far the best/easiest to use imagery to represent the idea of motion. It carries our main charatcer from the beginning of the album to the end. Obviously the idealogy of YIELD that we hold so dear couldn't work without this idea of motion being involved. What I mean by that is you can't get from "point A" to "point b" without both some kind of motion and some method of creating that motion.
--"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
right fucking on willy!
Its been a while since Wally has said it so I will remind everyone:
"The YIELD thread- classing up the front page of the message pit since 2003"
just when i think you can't get any better.
i have nothing to add to this.
jeeezus.
Clouds roll by
Reeling is what they say
Or is it just my way?
Wind blows by,
Low light
Sidetracked, low light
Can't see my tracks,
Your scent-way back
Can I be here all alone?
Clear a path to my home
Blood runs dry
Books and jealousy tell me wrong
All I feel, calm
Voice rolls by,
Low light
Car crash, low light
Can't wear my mask,
Your first, my last
Voice goes by
Two birds is what they'll see
Getting lost upon their way
Wind rolls by,
Low light
Eye sight, low light
I need the light
I'll find my way from wrong, what's real?
Your dream I see
I see this verse as discussing the end part of the running away. A lot of allusion to motion again here (the clouds rolling by, wind blowing, leaving behind tracks and a scent)...These all leave me with a feeling of escape or running away. The clincher here for me is the word 'reeling'. The main character is reeling from something in his/her life. This fits PERFECTLY with our interpretation of escape.
This is pure isolation and regret. Not as much motion in this verse, leading me to believe the escape is over with and now the main character is reflecting on where the escape has left him/her. Isolation (can I be here all alone), no family (blood runs dry), and confusion (books and jealousy tell me wrong).
Initially, this verse again refers to the problem with escapism (two birds is what they'll see, getting lost upon their way). Then we have more motion with the wind, which I think is showing a desire to go back and overcome whatever is holding us down rather than run away from it. (I need the light, I'll find my way from wrong). But it ends on such a down note. Is it too late for us? Can we really go back? What's real? The line 'your dream I see'....is he saying that this ideal reality only exists in dreams, or that with this new plan of YIELDing and overcoming we can now see this dream becoming a reality? That's the only part I struggle with.
--"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
That would certainly explain that last line. Which is fascinating because this whole time I've thought of the main character (ourselves) as the only protagonist. I've seen the album as self vs everyone else. This would introduce a new protagonist. Fascinating thought to ponder.
--"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
of course we're projecting our own ideas and interpretations onto this, but I thought this angle made sense. think about the last line: "your dream, I see" followed up by PMPM.
it makes sense to me. who knows?
asking the question and Low Light answering it - this situation mirrors what goes on in the book.
I'll have to look it up and re-read it, but I think you just described the end of the book.
A google search unearthed this little nugget (from the board):
"Kat
05-03-2004, 12:16 PM
Here are a few things Jeff said at the time about Pilate.
Love,
Kat
From 1998 Guitar World article:
From: Guitar World "All For One"
by Vic Garbarini
March, 1998
GW: Your songs on Yield seem too reflect that process. "Pilate" is all
frenzied frustration, while "Low Light" is like a hymn, serene and at peace.
But why does Pilate have a dog?
JA: I think "Pilate" was the question I was asking myself, and "Low Light"
was the answer, the realization. Have you ever read The Master and Margarita
[by Mikhail Bulgakov]? I just read that book, and at the end they talk about
Pontius Pilate being all alone on a mountain with his dog. He couldn't sleep
and he couldn't function. It really struck me hard, because at that point I
was feeling very alone. I've always had this recurring dream about
being old and just me and my dog sitting on the porch. It wasn't necessarily
a sad dream of a premonition, but it it did get me to thinking about why
Pilate was so alone and freaked out. Then I realized he didn't get to finish
his conversation with Jesus- *that's* why he can't function, because he
didn't tie up the loose ends in his life. Later, I was playing the guitar,
and I was hit so hard by this amazing emotion. In that moment the words "low
light" came out, and somehow those were the only words to explain what I was
feeling. It was a kind of greatfulness at finding that place of calm and
peace at my center and getting a glimpse of the person I could choose to be.
It was the purest happiness that I've experienced in a long time, that
particular emotion. God, I thought I was going to explode. I feel very
lucky to have been able to put it down on tape that morning and work through
it until it became a song."
edit: the quote copied twice, removed one.
--"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
I have a really stupid question. Ed wrote the lyrics to Low Light, right?
Wow. That's enlightening. It really gives me a totally new appreciation for Low Light, and I need to go relisten to Pilate.
Nobody has the rest of this interview lying around...?
http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/articles/gw0398.shtml
Sweet! Now I have some fun reading to do at work...
Of course, hard-core fans will still be able to quickly identify those familiar Stone Gossard riffs on the roaring opener, "Brain of J," and Vedder's contemplative lyrics on "Pilate" and the hymn-like "Low Light."
That's Mike's riff and Jeff's lyrics. And he interview Mike and Jeff!
Argh.
oooooh. Nevermind then. Are the lyrics credits in the booklet? I need to pick that up again.
That's the point. If you read the next line, he tells you that the hardcore fan would be wrong to think that (I was confused and had to read it like 6 times). He just wanted to show how different this album is from the previous ones and that it breaks the mold from what we're used too.
It was a great article. Very Yieldy, all about giving yourself over and just letting things roll. Trying to get over egos and just go with the flow. I guess that really is what the album is about
I haven't read this in years and my eyes hit that and I got pissed off and gave up.
Thank you for your patience.
Sho' thing. Its a very good article.
Par for the course for Guitar World. When I first started playing, I subscribed to it for a year, but there were SO many inaccuracies and ridiculous opinion based articles that I never renewed my subscription.
--"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
Read my post on the last page (or keep reading the article) to see why it makes sense.
Well, this particular article may be ok, but that doesn't change my general feelings about Guitar World Magazine. "Journalism", my ass.
--"We’re taking pills to get along with life… the pills are YIELD and PJ’s music. Then we create words to call our own = our analysis of YIELD." - YIH
I have no idea seeing that I don't really read GW.
I'm reading Chuck Klosterman's IV right now. Good, funny book.
Someone posted this last year...his article on how the music died in February of 1998.
http://www.spinmagazine.com/features/magazine/columns/chuck_klosterman/2006/01/060122_chuck_column/
Funny but dumb article. It would have made more sense had taken a magazine from the end of the year, instead of the one month after the year started... :rolleyes: