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PissBottleMan

RockKing wrote:

It probably is, you probably just haven't realized it yet.

I like your answer better....very YIELD-like.

glasshouse needs to slow down and give way.

PBM

likepilateihaveadog

Kinda in a rush these days, but I think I finalized my new YIELD tracklist, will post it soon.

Want to give the whole thing a listen and check it out.

glasshouse

PissBottleMan wrote:

I like your answer better....very YIELD-like.

glasshouse needs to slow down and give way.

PBM

i can't give way my brother - i'm way to cool and focused, you know.

two words last exit

TheIndifferent

So many people tell me that PJ lost it after Vitalogy, or even Vs. Yield and Binaural are my immediate responses (Yield first obviously).

It boggles me that someone who only casually listens to PJ and has never even heard a track from any of their albums after Ten could tell me that they lost it. What a bunch of jerks.

likepilateihaveadog

I guess the argument could be made about the definition of 'masterpiece'...
YIELD wasn't so much an instant and unexpected work of creativity, it was deliberate and the end result of a long series of events.

It clearly is their best work, but if you see a masterpiece as a combination of luck and talent, than I don't think YIELD is it.
YIELD is more built on communication and collaboration, not so much the genius of one man, so I can see why someone would call Vitalogy a 'masterpiece'.

That said...
YIELD still pwns.

RockKing

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

I guess the argument could be made about the definition of 'masterpiece'...
YIELD wasn't so much an instant and unexpected work of creativity, it was deliberate and the end result of a long series of events.

It clearly is their best work, but if you see a masterpiece as a combination of luck and talent, than I don't think YIELD is it.
YIELD is more built on communication and collaboration, not so much the genius of one man, so I can see why someone would call Vitalogy a 'masterpiece'.

That said...
YIELD still pwns.

Yeah, I think I know what you're getting at. Like, Led Zeppelin made Physical Graffiti with the intention of it being their masterpiece. The Who did it with both Who's Next and Quadrophenia. Metallica did it with the black album. But I don't get that impression with YIELD. It was just 5 guys who happened to fall into the same musical zone at the exact same time.

That being said, I do still feel that, based on my own definition of masterpiece, that YIELD is a masterpiece, although an unintentional one at that....much like it is an unintentional conecpt album.

BlkFlg1

glasshouse wrote:

yield is not pearl jam's masterpiece - i'm sure of it.

Please refrain from not referencing YIELD as a masterpiece in this thread, thank you.

-Sergeant-At-Arms

BlkFlg1

TheIndifferent wrote:

So many people tell me that PJ lost it after Vitalogy, or even Vs. Yield and Binaural are my immediate responses (Yield first obviously).

It boggles me that someone who only casually listens to PJ and has never even heard a track from any of their albums after Ten could tell me that they lost it. What a bunch of jerks.

see above post- theyre still holding on to anger and control. YIELD comes after a big personal awareness or spiritual encounter. also, refering to them as "jerks" is not in alignment with the ideals of YIELD. That is unless, they like Riot Act, which for you new posters is the antithesis of YIELD's sunny transcendance- dark, tired, defeated.

BlkFlg1

likepilateihaveadog wrote:

I guess the argument could be made about the definition of 'masterpiece'...
YIELD wasn't so much an instant and unexpected work of creativity, it was deliberate and the end result of a long series of events.

It clearly is their best work, but if you see a masterpiece as a combination of luck and talent, than I don't think YIELD is it.
YIELD is more built on communication and collaboration, not so much the genius of one man, so I can see why someone would call Vitalogy a 'masterpiece'.

That said...
YIELD still pwns.

Indeed. YIELD is about the tension and paradox of "being" and "becoming". "It is", and at the same time, "it became" after a process of pain and trial. It was the pinncale of a series of events that coalesced to basically save the band- they arrived at maturity. Held in the paradox and messiness of collaboration, the band restablished a sense of communion with each other that is manifested in the album. It goes beyond a few major/minor chords thrown together and becomes bout the soul of the band.

Arainea

I had a lovely Yield moment today. I want to share it with you in case you find yourself in the situation that I was in...you'll know what to do!

The fitness club where I exercise has a line of TVs at the front of the room, and all the treadmills, stair climbers, etc. face the TVs. On one channel, they broadcast music videos, which are also playing over the PA system. Because they're trying to appeal to the largest number of people, the videos are primarily whatever pop music is currently being played on the radio, along with some golden oldies. I have NEVER seen a PJ video. Usually I wear my headphones so I can listen to whatever I want, and I run on a treadmill in front of the TV that has CNN on, so I can read the news while I run. Today, however, I got stuck on a machine in a direct line of sight with the music videos. Well, I popped Yield into my disc player and set out...and I don't know if it was the endorphin high or what, but I swear it started to look like the people in the videos were singing along with the Yield songs. Really...some rapper doing Evolution...Nellie somebody doing LowLight...Gwen Stefani (sorry if I'm getting these names wrong) singing Given to Fly. And you know what? Everyone looks better when they're singing along with Yield.

So, if you find yourself stuck in a spiritually-unhealthy media enviroment, you now know what to do.

Blessings,
Arainea

RockKing

Arainea wrote:

I had a lovely Yield moment today. I want to share it with you in case you find yourself in the situation that I was in...you'll know what to do!

The fitness club where I exercise has a line of TVs at the front of the room, and all the treadmills, stair climbers, etc. face the TVs. On one channel, they broadcast music videos, which are also playing over the PA system. Because they're trying to appeal to the largest number of people, the videos are primarily whatever pop music is currently being played on the radio, along with some golden oldies. I have NEVER seen a PJ video. Usually I wear my headphones so I can listen to whatever I want, and I run on a treadmill in front of the TV that has CNN on, so I can read the news while I run. Today, however, I got stuck on a machine in a direct line of sight with the music videos. Well, I popped Yield into my disc player and set out...and I don't know if it was the endorphin high or what, but I swear it started to look like the people in the videos were singing along with the Yield songs. Really...some rapper doing Evolution...Nellie somebody doing LowLight...Gwen Stefani (sorry if I'm getting these names wrong) singing Given to Fly. And you know what? Everyone looks better when they're singing along with Yield.

So, if you find yourself stuck in a spiritually-unhealthy media enviroment, you now know what to do.

Blessings,
Arainea

This is precisely what this thread is all about. I love it! Thanks for sharing. The world just looks better in general when seen through the prism of YIELD.

Ledbetterman10

RockKing wrote:

Yeah, I think I know what you're getting at. Like, Led Zeppelin made Physical Graffiti with the intention of it being their masterpiece.

I'm not so sure about that. most of the Physical Graffiti songs were left overs from past sessions. Bron-Yr-Aur was recorded around the time of Zeppelin III. Down by the Seaside, Boogie With Stu, and Night Flight were all rejected from the Zeppelin IV sessions. and Black Mountain Woman, The Rover, and Houses of the Holy (the song) were recorded during the Houses of the Holy sessions. so while the "new" songs for the album were epic (Time of Dying, Kashmir, In the Light among others), it's hard for this to be considered a masterpiece "album" in the true sense of the word.

RockKing

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I'm not so sure about that. most of the Physical Graffiti songs were left overs from past sessions. Bron-Yr-Aur was recorded around the time of Zeppelin III. Down by the Seaside, Boogie With Stu, and Night Flight were all rejected from the Zeppelin IV sessions. and Black Mountain Woman, The Rover, and Houses of the Holy (the song) were recorded during the Houses of the Holy sessions. so while the "new" songs for the album were epic (Time of Dying, Kashmir, In the Light among others), it's hard for this to be considered a masterpiece "album" in the true sense of the word.

I suppose I get what you're saying, but when the band was recording the album, their intention was to create something epic, and they only included "leftover" songs that fit their vision of what Physical Graffiti was going to be. They knew they were trying to do something different, something bigger...that's my point.

Arainea

TrixieCat
Love Boat Captain Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: CT
Posts: 1,946

Quote:
Originally Posted by a5pj
if by no code you mean yield, but that might just be for pj guys

What the hell is it with you guys (read: males) and Yield? If you play it backwards does it give you the secret location of our REAL g-spot??? lol
You men love that album. lol
Oh, and PJ girls rule.


I just read the above quote in another thread. I don't post on the boards very often, though I am a serious PJ fan. I laughed when I read it because I think it's supposed to be a joke. However, since I dearly love YIELD, I thought I'd bring the quote over here for a formal rebuttal by the women on this thread.

RockKing

Arainea wrote:

TrixieCat
Love Boat Captain Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: CT
Posts: 1,946

Quote:
Originally Posted by a5pj
if by no code you mean yield, but that might just be for pj guys

What the hell is it with you guys (read: males) and Yield? If you play it backwards does it give you the secret location of our REAL g-spot??? lol
You men love that album. lol
Oh, and PJ girls rule.


I just read the above quote in another thread. I don't post on the boards very often, though I am a serious PJ fan. I laughed when I read it because I think it's supposed to be a joke. However, since I dearly love YIELD, I thought I'd bring the quote over here for a formal rebuttal by the women on this thread.

I think we lost all the women in this thread in the great genocide of last fall. We need more female perspective in this thread.

Arainea

RockKing wrote:

I think we lost all the women in this thread in the great genocide of last fall. We need more female perspective in this thread.

Oh goodness, the female perspective can't be just me! I, unlike many jammers, do not have the kind of job where I can both work and post at the same time. I'm in the classroom most days attempting to teach grumpy college freshmen how to write even one coherent paragraph in English. Since there are no classes today, I'm at home trying to convince a grumpy toddler to eat something besides cheerios! That's the only reason I can post right now. But I seem to remember posting on an old Yield thread a few times before...wasn't there a woman named Grace? Where did she go?

Arainea

You know, it surprises me that there aren't more women posting to this thread. I would think YIELD would be popular with women, but then again I don't know many other PJ fans other than my husband.

Ms. Haiku

So, what's this discussion about? Yield Haiku?

Ok. Try to work with this? It may be a little different than what you are used to. First, think of a Yield song, the moment of flash, just one. An individual moment, just one, where the peripheral vision of your mind expands. Then look at something within the straight line of your sight. Write between 9-15 syllables of the peripheral vision of your mind verses the actual vision within your sight, and you'll have what's very close to an actual haiku. Here's an example using a Given to Fly moment

crashing wave
the darkness
within an office

Want to try? A flash moment within a song of Yield translated into your daily routine. Your turn.

Arainea

Ms. Haiku wrote:

So, what's this discussion about?

Well, I am attempting to recruit women to this thread! :-)

Arainea

Except, you know what? I don't think, in the context of YIELD, that gender matters much.