9-Year-Old Girl Accidentally Kills Shooting Range Instructor

backseatLover12

https://gma.yahoo.com/9-old-girl-accidentally-kills-shooting-range-instructor-063706519--abc-news-topstories.html?soc_src=mediacontentsharebuttons

Seriously, I hate guns to begin with but accept the American love for these deadly weapons… to a point. Teaching kids to use guns? Don't get me started.

Jason P

An 8 year old was killed shooting an UZI at a gun show several years ago due to the recoil.

nbcnews.com/id/27399337/ns/us_news-life/t/boy-accidentally-kills-self-gun-show/

badbrains

Ya saw this on twitter yesterday. Fucken weird watching someone right before they're about to die. Fucken unreal

unsung

We have a thread discussing this already.

brianlux

Yes, this was mentioned in a general gun thread but this is so outrageous it deserves it's own thread. Putting any gun in the hands of a nine year old: irresponsible and (in my opinion) unethical. Putting an UZI in the hands of a nine year old: all of the above plus, FUCKING STUPID!

Last-12-Exit

Unbelievably stupid. Not only is the guy dead, but this poor girl has to live with this for the rest of her life. And why? Because her ignorant ass parents want to make sure that their 9 year old can protect herself from all of the terrorists that will be invading her home? Or that she needs to know how to shoot an Uzi before Obama takes them all away? How fuckin stupid can people be?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Jason P said:

An 8 year old was killed shooting an UZI at a gun show several years ago due to the recoil.

nbcnews.com/id/27399337/ns/us_news-life/t/boy-accidentally-kills-self-gun-show/

Saw this. Just brutal.

I'm not sure what to say about it? As a child, I grew up respecting guns- we had many as my father was an avid outdoorsman and we hunted. I learned how to handle weapons and use them. It's not a horrible idea to teach your children responsible use of a firearm... especially if they are spending time out in the wilderness with a gun in their hand. I'm not sure of the need to learn how to use a gun for a child that lives in an apartment in the middle of a city who has never seen a tree (is learning how to 'shoot shit' a good enough reason?).

Everybody is a responsible gun owner until they become irresponsible and can no longer point their finger at someone else.

And have we seriously gone from taking videos of our children playing sports, playing with animals, or enjoying a ride at Disneyland to those where they are firing machine guns?

Gern Blansten

Life in Amurikkka

PJ_Soul

Can't get over how weird America is about guns. Seriously, I can only think of one Canadian that I know who has ever even handled a gun outside of that Vegas firing range. Me, I've seen a gun once, and it scared me and everyone else there that the person had it with him. For most people where I live, handling firearms isn't even a consideration. Why should it be??? And in the states kids are playing with uzis and everyone's talking about teaching kids how to use deadly weapons. WTF?? So foreign to me!

Gern Blansten

http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/28/6079217/the-insanity-of-letting-a-9-year-old-use-an-uzi-in-one-tweet?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=ezraklein&utm_content=thursday

I'm a little unclear on how you have to be 16 to drive, 18 to vote, 21 to buy alcohol but can legally handle an Uzi at the age of 9.

badbrains

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/28/6079217/the-insanity-of-letting-a-9-year-old-use-an-uzi-in-one-tweet?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=ezraklein&utm_content=thursday

I'm a little unclear on how you have to be 16 to drive, 18 to vote, 21 to buy alcohol but can legally handle an Uzi at the age of 9.

Good point

backseatLover12

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

And have we seriously gone from taking videos of our children playing sports, playing with animals, or enjoying a ride at Disneyland to those where they are firing machine guns?

You've come a long way, Baby.

Drowned Out

PJ_Soul said:

Can't get over how weird America is about guns. Seriously, I can only think of one Canadian that I know who has ever even handled a gun outside of that Vegas firing range. Me, I've seen a gun once, and it scared me and everyone else there that the person had it with him. For most people where I live, handling firearms isn't even a consideration. Why should it be??? And in the states kids are playing with uzis and everyone's talking about teaching kids how to use deadly weapons. WTF?? So foreign to me!

This definitely isn't the norm here in Texas north (alberta). I don't think I know anyone here who hasn't shot a gun outside a range. My kids (8 and 10 at the time) were shooting a .22 this spring at my mom's ranch. I enjoy shooting at targets but don't hunt, nor own a gun of my own....so I was uneasy about it; watched them like hawks and never let them get outside arm's reach with it. That said....there are legit reasons to have a rifle on a livestock ranch, so I can see teaching kids who spend a lot of time in the area gun safety at a young age. My neice and nephew live in the area - they learn it in school. But teaching some vacationing kid to shoot an automatic uzi? wtf?

Drowned Out

unsung said:

We have a thread discussing this already.

Ya, wouldn't want to shine additional negative light on your cause. Hope you're keeping all of your anti-cop discussions to one thread too.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Drowned Out said:

unsung said:

We have a thread discussing this already.

Ya, wouldn't want to shine additional negative light on your cause. Hope you're keeping all of your anti-cop discussions to one thread too.

Do as I say and not as I do.

backseatLover12

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/28/6079217/the-insanity-of-letting-a-9-year-old-use-an-uzi-in-one-tweet?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=ezraklein&utm_content=thursday

I'm a little unclear on how you have to be 16 to drive, 18 to vote, 21 to buy alcohol but can legally handle an Uzi at the age of 9.

I guess the alcohol lobby needs to step up its money game in order to get its age limits removed, so it can compare to the gun lobby...

badbrains

backseatLover12 said:

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/28/6079217/the-insanity-of-letting-a-9-year-old-use-an-uzi-in-one-tweet?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=ezraklein&utm_content=thursday

I'm a little unclear on how you have to be 16 to drive, 18 to vote, 21 to buy alcohol but can legally handle an Uzi at the age of 9.

I guess the alcohol lobby needs to step up its money game in order to get its age limits removed, so it can compare to the gun lobby...

So true, but I think they're too busy taking on the legalization of Mary Jane. Or something like that.

PJ_Soul

Drowned Out said:

PJ_Soul said:

Can't get over how weird America is about guns. Seriously, I can only think of one Canadian that I know who has ever even handled a gun outside of that Vegas firing range. Me, I've seen a gun once, and it scared me and everyone else there that the person had it with him. For most people where I live, handling firearms isn't even a consideration. Why should it be??? And in the states kids are playing with uzis and everyone's talking about teaching kids how to use deadly weapons. WTF?? So foreign to me!

This definitely isn't the norm here in Texas north (alberta). I don't think I know anyone here who hasn't shot a gun outside a range. My kids (8 and 10 at the time) were shooting a .22 this spring at my mom's ranch. I enjoy shooting at targets but don't hunt, nor own a gun of my own....so I was uneasy about it; watched them like hawks and never let them get outside arm's reach with it. That said....there are legit reasons to have a rifle on a livestock ranch, so I can see teaching kids who spend a lot of time in the area gun safety at a young age. My neice and nephew live in the area - they learn it in school. But teaching some vacationing kid to shoot an automatic uzi? wtf?

Oh sure, I didn't mean folks in cattle country. Of course there are legit reasons for some Canadians (and Americans) to have guns, and I know there are plenty of hunters in Canada too (I've never known any though). Just talking about where I'm from (Vancouver). Hardly anyone in these parts (besides gang members) can even relate to gun ownership - certainly not in urban areas. But in the US it seems like having a gun in the house is the rule rather than exception, and that just seems strange to me!

benjs

badbrains said:

backseatLover12 said:

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/28/6079217/the-insanity-of-letting-a-9-year-old-use-an-uzi-in-one-tweet?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=ezraklein&utm_content=thursday

I'm a little unclear on how you have to be 16 to drive, 18 to vote, 21 to buy alcohol but can legally handle an Uzi at the age of 9.

I guess the alcohol lobby needs to step up its money game in order to get its age limits removed, so it can compare to the gun lobby...

So true, but I think they're too busy taking on the legalization of Mary Jane. Or something like that.

Marijuana's a dangerous drug, my friend. You could crave chips. Or cookies. Or laugh a lot and disturb the crowd so they don't notice someone nearby being shot! See? Drugs kill.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

benjs said:

badbrains said:

backseatLover12 said:

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/28/6079217/the-insanity-of-letting-a-9-year-old-use-an-uzi-in-one-tweet?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=ezraklein&utm_content=thursday

I'm a little unclear on how you have to be 16 to drive, 18 to vote, 21 to buy alcohol but can legally handle an Uzi at the age of 9.

I guess the alcohol lobby needs to step up its money game in order to get its age limits removed, so it can compare to the gun lobby...

So true, but I think they're too busy taking on the legalization of Mary Jane. Or something like that.

Marijuana's a dangerous drug, my friend. You could crave chips. Or cookies. Or laugh a lot and disturb the crowd so they don't notice someone nearby being shot! See? Drugs kill.

With today's fresh water shortage... that's all we need is a bunch of stoners with dry mouth draining the creek beds.

badbrains

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

benjs said:

badbrains said:

backseatLover12 said:

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/28/6079217/the-insanity-of-letting-a-9-year-old-use-an-uzi-in-one-tweet?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=ezraklein&utm_content=thursday

I'm a little unclear on how you have to be 16 to drive, 18 to vote, 21 to buy alcohol but can legally handle an Uzi at the age of 9.

I guess the alcohol lobby needs to step up its money game in order to get its age limits removed, so it can compare to the gun lobby...

So true, but I think they're too busy taking on the legalization of Mary Jane. Or something like that.

Marijuana's a dangerous drug, my friend. You could crave chips. Or cookies. Or laugh a lot and disturb the crowd so they don't notice someone nearby being shot! See? Drugs kill.

With today's fresh water shortage... that's all we need is a bunch of stoners with dry mouth draining the creek beds.


See that's where the alcohol industry can team up with the Mary Jane industry, problem solved. On to the next matter at hand.........

Thirty Bills Unpaid

badbrains said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

benjs said:

badbrains said:

backseatLover12 said:

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/28/6079217/the-insanity-of-letting-a-9-year-old-use-an-uzi-in-one-tweet?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=ezraklein&utm_content=thursday

I'm a little unclear on how you have to be 16 to drive, 18 to vote, 21 to buy alcohol but can legally handle an Uzi at the age of 9.

I guess the alcohol lobby needs to step up its money game in order to get its age limits removed, so it can compare to the gun lobby...

So true, but I think they're too busy taking on the legalization of Mary Jane. Or something like that.

Marijuana's a dangerous drug, my friend. You could crave chips. Or cookies. Or laugh a lot and disturb the crowd so they don't notice someone nearby being shot! See? Drugs kill.

With today's fresh water shortage... that's all we need is a bunch of stoners with dry mouth draining the creek beds.

See that's where the alcohol industry can team up with the Mary Jane industry, problem solved. On to the next matter at hand.........

We're rocking the problems.

badbrains

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

badbrains said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

benjs said:

badbrains said:

backseatLover12 said:

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/28/6079217/the-insanity-of-letting-a-9-year-old-use-an-uzi-in-one-tweet?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=ezraklein&utm_content=thursday

I'm a little unclear on how you have to be 16 to drive, 18 to vote, 21 to buy alcohol but can legally handle an Uzi at the age of 9.

I guess the alcohol lobby needs to step up its money game in order to get its age limits removed, so it can compare to the gun lobby...

So true, but I think they're too busy taking on the legalization of Mary Jane. Or something like that.

Marijuana's a dangerous drug, my friend. You could crave chips. Or cookies. Or laugh a lot and disturb the crowd so they don't notice someone nearby being shot! See? Drugs kill.

With today's fresh water shortage... that's all we need is a bunch of stoners with dry mouth draining the creek beds.

See that's where the alcohol industry can team up with the Mary Jane industry, problem solved. On to the next matter at hand.........

We're rocking the problems.


And "Rollin" the trees :-& )

mickeyrat

Is there any thought at all after the initial "hey lets ......" shit like this is an indication that some(at least) werent responsible to begin with.

Thought I had today, why in the fuck dont they use blanks to see how they would handle things.

my fucking god. An automatic weapon? Hope the dumbass parents have enough money after legal bills to get this girl some therapy.

FUCK YOUR GRANDFATHER CLAUSE. CHECK EM IN.

Jason P

Charles Heller, former director of the Arizona Citizens Defense League, said machine guns are well within legal boundaries when handled properly.

"There are three simple rules, and I'll say it again: Treat all guns as dangerous, keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction and keep your finger off the trigger until you decide to fire," Heller said. "Every single gun accident is a result of the rules not being followed."

azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2014/08/28/arizona-uzi-shooting-range-bullets-burgers-concerns/14723289/

Uh, Charles, I think all three rules were followed in this case ....

hedonist

mickeyrat said:

Thought I had today, why in the fuck dont they use blanks to see how they would handle things.

Excellent idea.

Anyone?

chadwick

when a young person is learning to shoot a gun they are issued one shell at a time, that is it, no more, no less & that is the end of the story. this guy fucked up, simple as that

i can not tell you for how many years i was issued one boring as shotgun shell for my boring ass broken open single shot shotgun. it was fantastic though & i learned one step at a time, slowly & patiently with dad's & grandpa's kind, stern boots in my ass

chadwick

hedonist said:

mickeyrat said:

Thought I had today, why in the fuck dont they use blanks to see how they would handle things.

Excellent idea.

Anyone?

i don't think blanks recoil do they? i never shot blanks so i don't really know

chadwick

ppl are so stupid with guns! you don't even need to pull the trigger & they can go off when unloading lets say a pump shotgun, it happened to me actually. thank god i know not to have the muzzle up anyone ass. this was after hunting in negative temperatures. guns & temperatures... that'll fuck with stuff. keep the fucking muzzle pointed at the ground folks or the sky, it isn't that difficult to constantly watch/look/scan one's surroundings, everyone's surroundings. is your weapon's safety on? i checked my gun's safety quite possibly 42,000,000 times in my short lifetime. simple shit keeps ppl alive

norm

hedonist said:

mickeyrat said:

Thought I had today, why in the fuck dont they use blanks to see how they would handle things.

Excellent idea.

Anyone?

butt then ya cain't see the slposions!

josevolution

At the end of the day this was a 9 yr old who's parents put her in harms way no matter which way you cut it child services should get involved and see if these two morons ARE CAPABLE OF BEING RESPONSIBLE PARENTS , so far they have failed this child ....