9-Year-Old Girl Accidentally Kills Shooting Range Instructor

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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    Yes because without govt there would be poisonous food and water.

    *edit rant out*

    Not worth it. The hypocrisy is too powerful.

    Clearly you know nothing of history! Ever heard of the Cuyahoga river? The Chicago Stockyards? Government is the only thing that stopped these poison fountains and hundreds of others. Get yourself out into the real world for cripes sake! Come to West Virginia with me, I'll take you to the base of a Mountain Top Removal site and scoop you a glass of water. Then we will see how quick you taste the real world. I am serious, I'll get you some coal runoff of you got the balls...
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  • callen said:

    This has more to do with parental stupidity than gun laws. I am by no means a gun lobby advocate, but this isn't a great example for the anti's. It's pure adult stupidity. When can we outlaw that? That's a far bigger scourge on our society bc it leads to stuff like this.

    True but it is the gun culture and it's acceptance in the US that instilled the thought that it would be a great family outing to shoot guns for fun.
    It's not the culture. It's her stupid parents and the stupid instructor. Whether we like guns or not is irrelevant to the stupidity that led to this incident.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • callen said:

    This has more to do with parental stupidity than gun laws. I am by no means a gun lobby advocate, but this isn't a great example for the anti's. It's pure adult stupidity. When can we outlaw that? That's a far bigger scourge on our society bc it leads to stuff like this.

    True but it is the gun culture and it's acceptance in the US that instilled the thought that it would be a great family outing to shoot guns for fun.
    It's not the culture. It's her stupid parents and the stupid instructor. Whether we like guns or not is irrelevant to the stupidity that led to this incident.
    Of course it's culture. In what other developed country could you even hope to put an uzi into the hands of a nine year old child? America is unique in this regard. Most countries legislate against such stupidity. Even America prohibits minors from drinking or driving a car because legislators recognize the inherent risks associated with allowing a child partaking in certain high-risck activities. Guns are different. Gun ownership is an inalienable right in the United States. This child had the right to use that uzi and I very much doubt that anybody will step in to prohibit this from happening again in the future no matter how ridiculous it may be.

    Do you really think a similar accident is likely to happen in the UK, Japan, Australia or even Canada, your neighbours to the north? As far as I can tell, among developed nations only Americans seem to regard gun ownership as an absolute right rather than a privilege. How could this be anything but cultural?
  • callen said:

    This has more to do with parental stupidity than gun laws. I am by no means a gun lobby advocate, but this isn't a great example for the anti's. It's pure adult stupidity. When can we outlaw that? That's a far bigger scourge on our society bc it leads to stuff like this.

    True but it is the gun culture and it's acceptance in the US that instilled the thought that it would be a great family outing to shoot guns for fun.
    It's not the culture. It's her stupid parents and the stupid instructor. Whether we like guns or not is irrelevant to the stupidity that led to this incident.
    Of course it's culture. In what other developed country could you even hope to put an uzi into the hands of a nine year old child? America is unique in this regard. Most countries legislate against such stupidity. Even America prohibits minors from drinking or driving a car because legislators recognize the inherent risks associated with allowing a child partaking in certain high-risck activities. Guns are different. Gun ownership is an inalienable right in the United States. This child had the right to use that uzi and I very much doubt that anybody will step in to prohibit this from happening again in the future no matter how ridiculous it may be.

    Do you really think a similar accident is likely to happen in the UK, Japan, Australia or even Canada, your neighbours to the north? As far as I can tell, among developed nations only Americans seem to regard gun ownership as an absolute right rather than a privilege. How could this be anything but cultural?
    Silly that you would even have to write this. Don't get me wrong... it's entirely true. It's just silly that one would have to explain to someone how gun culture is at the root of this case.
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  • callen said:

    This has more to do with parental stupidity than gun laws. I am by no means a gun lobby advocate, but this isn't a great example for the anti's. It's pure adult stupidity. When can we outlaw that? That's a far bigger scourge on our society bc it leads to stuff like this.

    True but it is the gun culture and it's acceptance in the US that instilled the thought that it would be a great family outing to shoot guns for fun.
    It's not the culture. It's her stupid parents and the stupid instructor. Whether we like guns or not is irrelevant to the stupidity that led to this incident.
    Of course it's culture. In what other developed country could you even hope to put an uzi into the hands of a nine year old child? America is unique in this regard. Most countries legislate against such stupidity. Even America prohibits minors from drinking or driving a car because legislators recognize the inherent risks associated with allowing a child partaking in certain high-risck activities. Guns are different. Gun ownership is an inalienable right in the United States. This child had the right to use that uzi and I very much doubt that anybody will step in to prohibit this from happening again in the future no matter how ridiculous it may be.

    Do you really think a similar accident is likely to happen in the UK, Japan, Australia or even Canada, your neighbours to the north? As far as I can tell, among developed nations only Americans seem to regard gun ownership as an absolute right rather than a privilege. How could this be anything but cultural?
    Silly that you would even have to write this. Don't get me wrong... it's entirely true. It's just silly that one would have to explain to someone how gun culture is at the root of this case.
    Except you've both missed my point. And to answer the prior post - there's lots of places that not only allow, but promote use of guns by youth. But that's entirely beside the point I was making.

    And not for a moment am I suggesting any of that is good or right. But again, that was beside the point. So, carry on with your misplaced smugness.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • callen said:

    This has more to do with parental stupidity than gun laws. I am by no means a gun lobby advocate, but this isn't a great example for the anti's. It's pure adult stupidity. When can we outlaw that? That's a far bigger scourge on our society bc it leads to stuff like this.

    True but it is the gun culture and it's acceptance in the US that instilled the thought that it would be a great family outing to shoot guns for fun.
    It's not the culture. It's her stupid parents and the stupid instructor. Whether we like guns or not is irrelevant to the stupidity that led to this incident.
    Of course it's culture. In what other developed country could you even hope to put an uzi into the hands of a nine year old child? America is unique in this regard. Most countries legislate against such stupidity. Even America prohibits minors from drinking or driving a car because legislators recognize the inherent risks associated with allowing a child partaking in certain high-risck activities. Guns are different. Gun ownership is an inalienable right in the United States. This child had the right to use that uzi and I very much doubt that anybody will step in to prohibit this from happening again in the future no matter how ridiculous it may be.

    Do you really think a similar accident is likely to happen in the UK, Japan, Australia or even Canada, your neighbours to the north? As far as I can tell, among developed nations only Americans seem to regard gun ownership as an absolute right rather than a privilege. How could this be anything but cultural?
    Silly that you would even have to write this. Don't get me wrong... it's entirely true. It's just silly that one would have to explain to someone how gun culture is at the root of this case.
    Except you've both missed my point. And to answer the prior post - there's lots of places that not only allow, but promote use of guns by youth. But that's entirely beside the point I was making.

    And not for a moment am I suggesting any of that is good or right. But again, that was beside the point. So, carry on with your misplaced smugness.
    We never missed your point. We understand that the instructor is largely responsible for his death.

    You missed Blue and White's point: it's your ridiculous gun culture and passion for guns that motivated a set of parents to bring their 9 year old daughter to a gun range, take a quick lesson on how to fire an uzi, and film her as if it was her bar mitzvah or piano recital.

    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388

    callen said:

    This has more to do with parental stupidity than gun laws. I am by no means a gun lobby advocate, but this isn't a great example for the anti's. It's pure adult stupidity. When can we outlaw that? That's a far bigger scourge on our society bc it leads to stuff like this.

    True but it is the gun culture and it's acceptance in the US that instilled the thought that it would be a great family outing to shoot guns for fun.
    It's not the culture. It's her stupid parents and the stupid instructor. Whether we like guns or not is irrelevant to the stupidity that led to this incident.
    It is the culture and the name if the range specifically targets it. Guns cool fun. Guns are tools. Deadly tools. We glorify guns to the detriment of many.
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/6nf1OgV449g

    thank you, switzerland. you fuckers are wonderful. here is a model to learn from
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  • chadwick said:

    http://youtu.be/6nf1OgV449g

    thank you, switzerland. you fuckers are wonderful. here is a model to learn from

    those fuckers are awesome!!!!
  • chadwick said:

    http://youtu.be/6nf1OgV449g

    thank you, switzerland. you fuckers are wonderful. here is a model to learn from

    Are you referring to their highly socialistic and extreme left politics?
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    chadwick said:

    http://youtu.be/6nf1OgV449g

    thank you, switzerland. you fuckers are wonderful. here is a model to learn from

    Ammunition strictly regulated. So he may have long gun at home but no ammo. When he goes to range and gets ammo he has to use it all or give back. Guns are strictly regulated as well. No gun shows every weekend and free for all purchases. So yeah good model.
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  • callen said:

    chadwick said:

    http://youtu.be/6nf1OgV449g

    thank you, switzerland. you fuckers are wonderful. here is a model to learn from

    Ammunition strictly regulated. So he may have long gun at home but no ammo. When he goes to range and gets ammo he has to use it all or give back. Guns are strictly regulated as well. No gun shows every weekend and free for all purchases. So yeah good model.
    And guns in a locker- not sitting by the television.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • callen said:

    chadwick said:

    http://youtu.be/6nf1OgV449g

    thank you, switzerland. you fuckers are wonderful. here is a model to learn from

    Ammunition strictly regulated. So he may have long gun at home but no ammo. When he goes to range and gets ammo he has to use it all or give back. Guns are strictly regulated as well. No gun shows every weekend and free for all purchases. So yeah good model.
    Great model. Completely regulated.
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