9-Year-Old Girl Accidentally Kills Shooting Range Instructor

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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    blueandwhite said:

    I'm at a point where I don't care what happens when it comes to firearms in the USA. As long as we don't adopt a similar gun culture in Canada I'm more than comfortable with the US doing whatever it wants in regards to firearms ownership.

    Thanks for the concern neighbor.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
    josevolution said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    josevolution said:

    At the end of the day this was a 9 yr old who's parents put her in harms way no matter which way you cut it child services should get involved and see if these two morons ARE CAPABLE OF BEING RESPONSIBLE PARENTS , so far they have failed this child ....

    Impossible for child services to get involved, because what they were doing was completely legal. That would be the same as calling child services because some parents allowed their 9 year old to ride a roller coaster that flew off the tracks.
    Yeah your right i forgot that this is totally legal still doesn't make these two any less moronic in my view or unfit to be parents ....
    That's for sure.
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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    PJ_Soul said:


    Oh sure, I didn't mean folks in cattle country. Of course there are legit reasons for some Canadians (and Americans) to have guns, and I know there are plenty of hunters in Canada too (I've never known any though). Just talking about where I'm from (Vancouver). Hardly anyone in these parts (besides gang members) can even relate to gun ownership - certainly not in urban areas. But in the US it seems like having a gun in the house is the rule rather than exception, and that just seems strange to me!

    Not everyone here owns a gun or even likes them. Please do not generalize the entire population due to what the media and the NRA tells you.
  • blueandwhite
    blueandwhite Posts: 662
    callen said:

    blueandwhite said:

    I'm at a point where I don't care what happens when it comes to firearms in the USA. As long as we don't adopt a similar gun culture in Canada I'm more than comfortable with the US doing whatever it wants in regards to firearms ownership.

    Thanks for the concern neighbor.
    No worries. It's not my business to judge how Americans choose to govern themselves. It seems every time there is a new gun incident the same arguments are made and people move forward with their lives. It's something distinctly American and as such, something that non-Americans probably can't speak to that well. I don't think your gun culture is going away anytime soon and I honestly don't think it's something that we non-Americans can fully appreciate.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i am pretty certain this wasn't a automatic uzi. please correct me if i m wrong
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    i am sorry, but i can't be bothered to feel bad about what happened. you give an UZI to a 9 year old, you are responsible for what happens.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    that little girl's dad & maybe mom probably shoot at that gun range. this means the family is a member of the gun range. to be a member paperwork needs be done. i would guarantee that that girl's parents filled out forms so she could shoot.

    sad thing is, it is all the fault of the gun instructor. you do not give a gun to a child with multiple rounds in it. that is a big mistake. i am sure that is a semi automatic, not automatic. you do not teach children to shoot with semi automatics w/ multiple rounds in the weapon

    only a very bizarre nonthinking person would do such a thing

    young people & first timers learn about gun safety & shooting w/ one round at a time. end of story

    here ya go kid, take this glock 9mm, ten round capacity but i only put in four rounds for you, have at it. oops!
    here kid, take this 357 magnum, its ready to rock fully loaded... whoops
    here 57 year old who's never touched a gun before, here's a loaded uzi....

    later the 57 year old runs home & brag to his friends i shot a fully automatic uzi at bobby's hillbilly gun range down yonder. (3 days later) i guess i wasn't educated on guns, it's a semi automatic

    was it even a fucking uzi?
    mac10?
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  • unsung
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    Interesting thoughts.

    Anti-gun people will blame guns in school shootings and despise the deaths of people, except when it suits their agenda, or so it seems from some of the replies here.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    chadwick said:

    brianlux said:

    Good points made about how the kid will be screwed up for life because of this fiasco.

    The rest of you are not taking this thread very seriously.... although I must admit, if I were stoned I would be laughing my ass off. ;-)

    i don't get it, brian

    you would be laughing your ass off if you were only stoned
    damn, lux
    I don't get it either. Too much hard working today.


    Bottom line though- bummer for the kid :-(



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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    no brian,,,, bummer for everyone involved,

    bummer for the guys wife or g/f or maybe he had a b/f
    bummer for his parents if still alive
    bummer for his kids
    bummer for his brothers & sisters if any
    bummer for his friends & extended family
    bummer for all of the little girls ppl

    it's a huge bummer
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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    According to what's been told about it, the girl and her parents were tourists, Chad. Nothing like taking your kids to shoot guns while on vacation.
  • blueandwhite
    blueandwhite Posts: 662
    unsung said:

    Interesting thoughts.

    Anti-gun people will blame guns in school shootings and despise the deaths of people, except when it suits their agenda, or so it seems from some of the replies here.

    Care to elaborate?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    edited August 2014
    unsung said:

    Interesting thoughts.

    Anti-gun people will blame guns in school shootings and despise the deaths of people, except when it suits their agenda, or so it seems from some of the replies here.

    no, even my lizard brain can tell the difference between negligence in an accidental shooting at a gun range, where guns are allowed, and a cold, calculated, mass shooting at a school where guns are not allowed.
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  • mickeyrat
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    unsung said:

    Interesting thoughts.

    Anti-gun people will blame guns in school shootings and despise the deaths of people, except when it suits their agenda, or so it seems from some of the replies here.

    No, I am saddened a COMPLETELY preventable death has occurred yet AGAIN.

    I simply cannot fathom how any sane parent thinks its ok to train their child in the use of a machine gun.

    I get hunting rifles and the like but fuck sake when is it enough?
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  • hedonist
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    chadwick said:

    no brian,,,, bummer for everyone involved,

    bummer for the guys wife or g/f or maybe he had a b/f
    bummer for his parents if still alive
    bummer for his kids
    bummer for his brothers & sisters if any
    bummer for his friends & extended family
    bummer for all of the little girls ppl

    it's a huge bummer

    I was thinking about them too, chadwick.

    I DO feel bad.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    mickeyrat said:

    unsung said:

    Interesting thoughts.

    Anti-gun people will blame guns in school shootings and despise the deaths of people, except when it suits their agenda, or so it seems from some of the replies here.

    No, I am saddened a COMPLETELY preventable death has occurred yet AGAIN.

    I simply cannot fathom how any sane parent thinks its ok to train their child in the use of a machine gun.

    I get hunting rifles and the like but fuck sake when is it enough?
    enough was enough at columbine.
    then enough was enough at virginia tech.
    then enough was enough at fort hood.
    then enough was enough at sandy hook...

    the point is, enough will never be enough to have a real discussion about guns in this country. as long as the 2nd amendment is interpreted as "fuck it, anybody who wants a gun can have one and anybody who wants to shoot stuff can do it!!!!" nothing will ever, ever be any different.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    backseatLover12 said:

    According to what's been told about it, the girl and her parents were tourists, Chad. Nothing like taking your kids to shoot guns while on vacation.

    a lot of ppl are just mentally out to lunch. this is constantly
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    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited August 2014
    blueandwhite said:

    unsung said:

    Interesting thoughts.

    Anti-gun people will blame guns in school shootings and despise the deaths of people, except when it suits their agenda, or so it seems from some of the replies here.

    Care to elaborate?
    Pure manipulation. Probably written purely to satisfy one's side in the entire gun argument at large rather than addressing this specific incident.
    Post edited by backseatLover12 on
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited August 2014
    machine gun - hunting rifle not much difference with many models. although hunting rifles travel a hell of a lot further down range than any uzi or gangster thompson machine gun ever dreamt about. high power rifles are illegal to use in iowa to hunt with except for coyotes, why? i haven't any idea. legally you can not deer hunt with a 30/30 or a .243 or a .306 or whatever here in iowa but you can smoke a coyote with one. odd as heck & ridiculous as coyote hunters use 4x4 trucks, cb radios, dogs, beer & haven't a problem hangin out on the road. fuckers!

    i call the sheriff on their silly asses
    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    unsung said:

    Interesting thoughts.

    Anti-gun people will blame guns in school shootings and despise the deaths of people, except when it suits their agenda, or so it seems from some of the replies here.

    It's definitely people at fault for school shootings.

    This doesn't change the fact that guns are tools made for killing. The average joe doesn't need a tool for killing unless they are a hunter. In which case... they should be able to access a hunting rifle or shotgun to hunt provided their background is solid.

    Only the military and tactical response police teams need assault rifles and handguns. Their job, sadly enough, is one that requires advanced tools. Your neighbour doesn't need an assault rifle. Good times like shootin' shit shouldn't trump public safety.
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