Pearl Jam Bellingham 5/10/2000 Vault Show #4 Vinyl PreSale. CD/Digital on sale now! Free Digital D!

lolobugg

two words- BULL SHIT
they can't even throw in a shitty MP3???

MedozK

demetrios said:

iOnlyownMymind said:

demetrios said:

joshpeichoto said:

PJ_Soul said:

No free download with the vinyl then I guess?

I was wondering the same thing. I thought I remember it saying we'd get downloads but I could be wrong.

Once our vinyl copies ship out we'll probably received an email with a direct download code for the MP3. Hopefully ..

Not according to this post.
http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/241335/does-bellingham-5-10-2000-vault-show-4-vinyl-come-with-a-digital-dl#latest

No way? Guess I'll have to wait till the CD arrives & just make a digital EAC > Flac copy of it.

Your NOT buy the HD-FLAC :-O

regalturbo

Any word if the digital download has all tracks including Dead Man?

demetrios

MedozK said:

demetrios said:

iOnlyownMymind said:

demetrios said:

joshpeichoto said:

PJ_Soul said:

No free download with the vinyl then I guess?

I was wondering the same thing. I thought I remember it saying we'd get downloads but I could be wrong.

Once our vinyl copies ship out we'll probably received an email with a direct download code for the MP3. Hopefully ..

Not according to this post.
http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/241335/does-bellingham-5-10-2000-vault-show-4-vinyl-come-with-a-digital-dl#latest

No way? Guess I'll have to wait till the CD arrives & just make a digital EAC > Flac copy of it.

Your NOT buy the HD-FLAC :-O

The 2.13 Gig Flac-HD download? I'm already hooked up with a copy!

darthvedder

regalturbo said:

Any word if the digital download has all tracks including Dead Man?

The track list is here:
http://www.livedownloads.com/live-music/0,11672/Pearl-Jam-mp3-flac-download-5-10-2000-Mt-Baker-Theatre-Bellingham-WA.html

No Dead Man.

demetrios

darthvedder said:

regalturbo said:

Any word if the digital download has all tracks including Dead Man?

The track list is here:
http://www.livedownloads.com/live-music/0,11672/Pearl-Jam-mp3-flac-download-5-10-2000-Mt-Baker-Theatre-Bellingham-WA.html

No Dead Man.

Also note on that page .. CDs WILL NOT SHIP UNTIL THE SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY.

So March '15 CD's will arrive in Canada.

MedozK

demetrios said:

MedozK said:

demetrios said:

iOnlyownMymind said:

demetrios said:

joshpeichoto said:

PJ_Soul said:

No free download with the vinyl then I guess?

I was wondering the same thing. I thought I remember it saying we'd get downloads but I could be wrong.

Once our vinyl copies ship out we'll probably received an email with a direct download code for the MP3. Hopefully ..

Not according to this post.
http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/241335/does-bellingham-5-10-2000-vault-show-4-vinyl-come-with-a-digital-dl#latest

No way? Guess I'll have to wait till the CD arrives & just make a digital EAC > Flac copy of it.

Your NOT buy the HD-FLAC :-O

The 2.13 Gig Flac-HD download? I'm already hooked up with a copy!

Ok that's good to hear. Would hate for that streak to end.

derbydave

lolobugg said:

two words- BULL SHIT
they can't even throw in a shitty MP3???

I can't remember my last vinyl purchase that didn't include a digital download...
It doesn't make any sense to make your members pay for something twice!!!

MedozK

I am very disappointed like a lot of others that I have bought the vinyl, purchased the CD and still can't listen to it till I get the vinyl..or when the CD ships next month sometime. 8-|

demetrios

MedozK said:

demetrios said:

MedozK said:

demetrios said:

iOnlyownMymind said:

demetrios said:

joshpeichoto said:

PJ_Soul said:

No free download with the vinyl then I guess?

I was wondering the same thing. I thought I remember it saying we'd get downloads but I could be wrong.

Once our vinyl copies ship out we'll probably received an email with a direct download code for the MP3. Hopefully ..

Not according to this post.
http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/241335/does-bellingham-5-10-2000-vault-show-4-vinyl-come-with-a-digital-dl#latest

No way? Guess I'll have to wait till the CD arrives & just make a digital EAC > Flac copy of it.

Your NOT buy the HD-FLAC :-O

The 2.13 Gig Flac-HD download? I'm already hooked up with a copy!

Ok that's good to hear. Would hate for that streak to end.

The streak will never end.

At the moment there's 76 Official Pearl Jam 24 Bit Flac-HD Bootlegs (245 Gigs).
And counting ..

Zod

darthvedder said:

regalturbo said:

Any word if the digital download has all tracks including Dead Man?

The track list is here:
http://www.livedownloads.com/live-music/0,11672/Pearl-Jam-mp3-flac-download-5-10-2000-Mt-Baker-Theatre-Bellingham-WA.html

No Dead Man.

Which is wierd because I have a copy that someone captures from pearl jam radio and I believe it includes deadman. I could sort of understand keeping it off the Vinyl if space was an issue (but not overly happy about it), but it makes no sense why it would be omittied on the digital or cd versions which aren't as limited for space.

jjflash

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet:

Nugs website states the CD's won't be shipped until mid-January.

pjsteelerfan

jjflash said:

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet:

Nugs website states the CD's won't be shipped until mid-January.

The 10c Newsletter yesterday said the same too

SomethingCreative

How does the LP sound compared to Vault 3?

darthvedder

I asked this in another thread, but according to this interview with Brett Eliason,

http://www.twofeetthick.com/2011/01/the-mixer-brett-eliason/

the 2000 shows were recorded to 16 bit digital tape. It is bizarre to me that they would produce vinyl and high rez audio files from 16 bit masters. Unless this show is different because it was close to home base? Can anybody set me straight on this?

lolobugg

darthvedder said:

I asked this in another thread, but according to this interview with Brett Eliason,

http://www.twofeetthick.com/2011/01/the-mixer-brett-eliason/

the 2000 shows were recorded to 16 bit digital tape. It is bizarre to me that they would produce vinyl and high rez audio files from 16 bit masters. Unless this show is different because it was close to home base? Can anybody set me straight on this?

Reading that link and interview- sounds like there would have to be upsampling required for the HDFlac version. All recording and mixing was done in 16Bit 44.1kz.
I doubt they changed out their setup just for the one show, but who knows? hopefully so

Out of My Mind and Time

got mailed confirmation in US today

A satellite forever orbiting

Got my MLB confirmation but no Vault vinyl email.

mrk2

Or maybe the show was remixed (or at least remastered). You have the source multitracks in 16/44.1, but any post-processing, mixing and mastering can be done in higher bit rates and benefit from it.There's a long discussion of similar cases at :
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/a-theory-regarding-24bit-44-1khz-hdtracks-releases-of-albums-recorded-on-16bit-dat.365308/

It could be that the show was not originally mixed and mastered at all back in 2000. They pulled out the multitracks and mixed and mastered those now. Hard to say for sure. Anyway, just got my vinyl and actually opened it this time Gonna take it for a spin today.

BHealy

Has anyone listened to the vinyl? I'm excited to get mine and spin it! How's the sound!?

2-feign-reluctance

mrk2 said:

Or maybe the show was remixed (or at least remastered). You have the source multitracks in 16/44.1, but any post-processing, mixing and mastering can be done in higher bit rates and benefit from it.There's a long discussion of similar cases at :
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/a-theory-regarding-24bit-44-1khz-hdtracks-releases-of-albums-recorded-on-16bit-dat.365308/

It could be that the show was not originally mixed and mastered at all back in 2000. They pulled out the multitracks and mixed and mastered those now. Hard to say for sure. Anyway, just got my vinyl and actually opened it this time Gonna take it for a spin today.

Hey! Good stuff MrK! I'm still learning a lot about the science of sound and this was a great article! Thanks!

Mitch24

Ahhh, membership renewal. Free mp3 bootleg download. Think I know what ill be using it on! Seeing as I live in Canada and wont see this vinyl for another good couple months!

darthvedder

mrk2 said:

Or maybe the show was remixed (or at least remastered). You have the source multitracks in 16/44.1, but any post-processing, mixing and mastering can be done in higher bit rates and benefit from it.There's a long discussion of similar cases at :
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/a-theory-regarding-24bit-44-1khz-hdtracks-releases-of-albums-recorded-on-16bit-dat.365308/

It could be that the show was not originally mixed and mastered at all back in 2000. They pulled out the multitracks and mixed and mastered those now. Hard to say for sure. Anyway, just got my vinyl and actually opened it this time Gonna take it for a spin today.

Thanks for the link! Interesting theory. It would be nice if 10C or Nugs gave information about how these recordings were created so that we could make informed decisions about what we buy. I guess one way to check would be to look at a spectogram of the HD files, to see if any frequencies go above 22 kHz. Without such information, I'm inclined to just stick with regular FLAC.

I've heard that the Pono store is trying to be the anti-HD Tracks, giving more information about recordings and their resolutions. We shall see.

Edit: Oops, I forgot about this thread. I guess it explains the process for the most recent boots, so maybe the same techniques were used on this boot:

http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/208463/flac-hd-files-not-really-hd

demetrios

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lotsalemon

yes!!!!!! can't wait to listen to this tonight

boyo79

SomethingCreative said:

How does the LP sound compared to Vault 3?

I think the vinyl of Vault 3 sounded better than Vault 4. Both pressing and performance wise.

Out of My Mind and Time

Out of My Mind and Time wrote: »

got mailed confirmation in US today

ok, I fucked up. I could of sworn I got an email about this shipping but I think I mistook it for the MLB shipping. My bad if I gave hope. Can't wait to get the email that is for real. Looking forward to spinning new vinyl. Have not listen to the boot yet.

:!!

PJ_Soul

Shipping notifications not going out yet might be a good sign. It could mean they are repacking them for us to keep them safe from USPS's destructive forces!