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  • RYME
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    pjl44 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    pjl44 said:

    Topics like Rand's bill help you differentiate between people who take an interest in politics because they want to advocate for positive governing vs those who found it's the only acceptable avenue to channel their inherent anger
    Sounds like "downsplaining to me." What's so great about Randy Paul? I mean, I guess if you're a white male, he might be great? I'd have way more respect for him if he shed his faux libertarianism and professed his repub bona fides or fully embraced his libertarianism and ran as one. But he's a fraud.

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    From Jan 2011 to Jun 2020, Paul missed 132 of 2,788 roll call votes, which is 4.7%. This is much worse than the median of 1.7% among the lifetime records of senators currently serving. The chart below reports missed votes over time.

    We don’t track why legislators miss votes, but it’s often due to medical absenses and major life events.

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    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/rand_paul/412492

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/rand_paul/412492/report-card/2019

    And yes, I googled this but I have been following the Pauls ever since I encountered Lyndon LaRouch supporters outside the post office and his dad was a POTUS candidate, and more so when Randy burst onto the scene. So, I'm not opposed to him because of some inherent "anger" but because he's a fraud and a hypocrite, playing the grandstander.

    I'm talking about a single bill, which you make no mention of. Instead you manically googled a bunch of unrelated stuff. You're only on here looking for fights.
    No, I think Randy Paul is a grandstander and his holding up of the anti-lynching bill is a dog whistle. His sponsorship of the bill you mentioned is more, well, Randystanding and too little too late in his illustrious career of carrying repub, racist water, all the while pretending to have some kind of libertarian ideal. An opinion not born of "inherent anger" but one of watching his political career over an extended period of time, listening to his rhetoric and seeing who and how he votes. Human Rights Campaign Score: 0. Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable.

    And you're only on here looking for your safe space (I don't think you'll understand how that sounds as it relates to the bold).
    Thats what I say!  Halifax is a comrad bot.  Prowls around this and probably other social sites.  He lives to bully people online with Spin and smear tactics.  Takes real courage to do that.
    Little does he know he's a fool.
  • brianlux
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    Not sure if this has been posted yet:

    Saturday Night Live alum Jay Pharoah says LA police kneeled on his neck

    Comedian shares video and says he was exercising when four officers approached him with guns drawn


    The comedian Jay Pharoah says he was recently stopped and handcuffed by Los Angeles police, with one officer kneeling on his neck in a restraint similar to the one that ended in George Floyd’s death.

    In a video posted to Instagram, the former Saturday Night Live actor said he was exercising in Los Angeles when four officers approached him with guns drawn, handcuffed him and held him to the ground .

    Pharoah said the incident took place about a week before Ahmaud Arbery was shot and killed by two white men while jogging in Glynn county, Georgia. He said the officers told him he was held because he fit the description of “a black man in this area, with gray sweatpants on and a gray shirt”.



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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    RYME said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    pjl44 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    pjl44 said:

    Topics like Rand's bill help you differentiate between people who take an interest in politics because they want to advocate for positive governing vs those who found it's the only acceptable avenue to channel their inherent anger
    Sounds like "downsplaining to me." What's so great about Randy Paul? I mean, I guess if you're a white male, he might be great? I'd have way more respect for him if he shed his faux libertarianism and professed his repub bona fides or fully embraced his libertarianism and ran as one. But he's a fraud.

    Ratings from Advocacy Organizations


    Missed Votes

    From Jan 2011 to Jun 2020, Paul missed 132 of 2,788 roll call votes, which is 4.7%. This is much worse than the median of 1.7% among the lifetime records of senators currently serving. The chart below reports missed votes over time.

    We don’t track why legislators miss votes, but it’s often due to medical absenses and major life events.

    Missed Votes (%)
    Line chart with 39 data points.
    The chart has 1 X axis displaying categories.
    The chart has 1 Y axis displaying Missed Votes (%). Range: 0 to 30.

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/rand_paul/412492

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/rand_paul/412492/report-card/2019

    And yes, I googled this but I have been following the Pauls ever since I encountered Lyndon LaRouch supporters outside the post office and his dad was a POTUS candidate, and more so when Randy burst onto the scene. So, I'm not opposed to him because of some inherent "anger" but because he's a fraud and a hypocrite, playing the grandstander.

    I'm talking about a single bill, which you make no mention of. Instead you manically googled a bunch of unrelated stuff. You're only on here looking for fights.
    No, I think Randy Paul is a grandstander and his holding up of the anti-lynching bill is a dog whistle. His sponsorship of the bill you mentioned is more, well, Randystanding and too little too late in his illustrious career of carrying repub, racist water, all the while pretending to have some kind of libertarian ideal. An opinion not born of "inherent anger" but one of watching his political career over an extended period of time, listening to his rhetoric and seeing who and how he votes. Human Rights Campaign Score: 0. Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable.

    And you're only on here looking for your safe space (I don't think you'll understand how that sounds as it relates to the bold).
    Thats what I say!  Halifax is a comrad bot.  Prowls around this and probably other social sites.  He lives to bully people online with Spin and smear tactics.  Takes real courage to do that.
    Little does he know he's a fool.
    Okay, busta. Pity da fool, yo!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    oftenreading said:
    AOC was asked "what does an America with defunded police look like to you". Here's her answer:

    The good news is that it actually doesn't take a ton of imagination.
    It looks like a suburb. Affluent white communities already live in a world where the choose to fund youth, health, housing etc more than they fund police. These communities have lower crime rates not because they have more police, but bc they have more resources to support healthy society in a way that reduces crime.
    When a teenager or preteen does something harmful in a suburb (I say teen bc this is often where lifelong carceral cycles begin for Black and Brown communities), White communities bend over backwards to find alternatives to incarceration for their loved ones to "protect their future," like community service or rehab or restorative measures. Why don't we treat Black and Brown people the same way? Why doesn't the criminal system care about Black teens' futures the way they care for White teens' futures? Why doesn't the news use Black people's graduation or family photos in stories the way they do when they cover White people (eg Brock Turner) who commit harmful crimes? Affluent White suburbs also design their own lives so that they walk through the world without having much interruption or interaction with police at all aside from community events and speeding tickets (and many of these communities try to reduce those, too!)
    Just starting THERE would be a dramatically and radically different world than what we are experiencing now.

    Food for thought, for all those who argue that "defunding the police" would lead to increased crime rate and a "lawless society".
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  • myoung321
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    edited June 2020
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    oftenreading said:
    AOC was asked "what does an America with defunded police look like to you". Here's her answer:

    The good news is that it actually doesn't take a ton of imagination.
    It looks like a suburb. Affluent white communities already live in a world where the choose to fund youth, health, housing etc more than they fund police. These communities have lower crime rates not because they have more police, but bc they have more resources to support healthy society in a way that reduces crime.
    When a teenager or preteen does something harmful in a suburb (I say teen bc this is often where lifelong carceral cycles begin for Black and Brown communities), White communities bend over backwards to find alternatives to incarceration for their loved ones to "protect their future," like community service or rehab or restorative measures. Why don't we treat Black and Brown people the same way? Why doesn't the criminal system care about Black teens' futures the way they care for White teens' futures? Why doesn't the news use Black people's graduation or family photos in stories the way they do when they cover White people (eg Brock Turner) who commit harmful crimes? Affluent White suburbs also design their own lives so that they walk through the world without having much interruption or interaction with police at all aside from community events and speeding tickets (and many of these communities try to reduce those, too!)
    Just starting THERE would be a dramatically and radically different world than what we are experiencing now.

    Food for thought, for all those who argue that "defunding the police" would lead to increased crime rate and a "lawless society".
    AOC? That radical commie ANTIFA liberal who’s going down in the primary because of her opposition to Amazon? That AOC? The horror of her rhetoric!
    commie antifa liberal?  Is that a thing? and... apparently there must non-radical ones too, since you had to establish she's a "radical" one.. 

    You are right... She may get voted out in her next election... that's part of the gig. You know how it works..   yeah!
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  • myoung321
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    brianlux said:
    Not sure if this has been posted yet:

    Saturday Night Live alum Jay Pharoah says LA police kneeled on his neck

    Comedian shares video and says he was exercising when four officers approached him with guns drawn


    The comedian Jay Pharoah says he was recently stopped and handcuffed by Los Angeles police, with one officer kneeling on his neck in a restraint similar to the one that ended in George Floyd’s death.

    In a video posted to Instagram, the former Saturday Night Live actor said he was exercising in Los Angeles when four officers approached him with guns drawn, handcuffed him and held him to the ground .

    Pharoah said the incident took place about a week before Ahmaud Arbery was shot and killed by two white men while jogging in Glynn county, Georgia. He said the officers told him he was held because he fit the description of “a black man in this area, with gray sweatpants on and a gray shirt”.



     
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  • mace1229
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    After the shooting it Atlanta Friday, I’ve seen many call for the firing and prosecution of both officers.
    Im not convinced either way about the officer who fired the gun, waiting for more information to come out. But I don’t get what the other did wrong? They were attempting to arrest him for a DUI when he assaulted both officers and ran away with one of their tasers before firing it at one of the cops. What did the other that didn’t fire do wrong in this case?
  • rgambs
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    mace1229 said:
    After the shooting it Atlanta Friday, I’ve seen many call for the firing and prosecution of both officers.
    Im not convinced either way about the officer who fired the gun, waiting for more information to come out. But I don’t get what the other did wrong? They were attempting to arrest him for a DUI when he assaulted both officers and ran away with one of their tasers before firing it at one of the cops. What did the other that didn’t fire do wrong in this case?
    Not sure he did anything wrong, either.  Shooting someone in the back is never going to look good, and the officer who fired obviously needs to face severe consequences, but the other officer...not sure.  I know one of the officers runs back to the squad car to get prepared for a medical response, but I'm not sure if it was the one who fired or not.
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  • mace1229
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    rgambs said:
    mace1229 said:
    After the shooting it Atlanta Friday, I’ve seen many call for the firing and prosecution of both officers.
    Im not convinced either way about the officer who fired the gun, waiting for more information to come out. But I don’t get what the other did wrong? They were attempting to arrest him for a DUI when he assaulted both officers and ran away with one of their tasers before firing it at one of the cops. What did the other that didn’t fire do wrong in this case?
    Not sure he did anything wrong, either.  Shooting someone in the back is never going to look good, and the officer who fired obviously needs to face severe consequences, but the other officer...not sure.  I know one of the officers runs back to the squad car to get prepared for a medical response, but I'm not sure if it was the one who fired or not.
    Yeah, I’m puzzled why the mayor and other leaders have called for the immediate firing and some cases prosecution of both. 

    Even the cop who did fire doesn’t seem like there anything for criminal prosecution. All he has to do is make a statement that he thought it was a gun. The whole thing lasted about 12 seconds, so if he were to claim he felt the guy reached for his weapons that’s backed up by the fact he wound up with a taser. When he turns around to shoot it the cop has a fraction of a second to react and could easily say he thought it was a gun. Or even admit he knew it was a taser and say he felt the guy go for his weapons and feared for his safety that if he was incapacitated he would continue to do more harm. Either way, you don’t have to believe his story 100%, just need reasonable doubt. And I think it’s there. But that’s based off the limited information out so far, so I’m not stuck on that mindset.
  • rgambs
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    mace1229 said:
    rgambs said:
    mace1229 said:
    After the shooting it Atlanta Friday, I’ve seen many call for the firing and prosecution of both officers.
    Im not convinced either way about the officer who fired the gun, waiting for more information to come out. But I don’t get what the other did wrong? They were attempting to arrest him for a DUI when he assaulted both officers and ran away with one of their tasers before firing it at one of the cops. What did the other that didn’t fire do wrong in this case?
    Not sure he did anything wrong, either.  Shooting someone in the back is never going to look good, and the officer who fired obviously needs to face severe consequences, but the other officer...not sure.  I know one of the officers runs back to the squad car to get prepared for a medical response, but I'm not sure if it was the one who fired or not.
    Yeah, I’m puzzled why the mayor and other leaders have called for the immediate firing and some cases prosecution of both. 

    Even the cop who did fire doesn’t seem like there anything for criminal prosecution. All he has to do is make a statement that he thought it was a gun. The whole thing lasted about 12 seconds, so if he were to claim he felt the guy reached for his weapons that’s backed up by the fact he wound up with a taser. When he turns around to shoot it the cop has a fraction of a second to react and could easily say he thought it was a gun. Or even admit he knew it was a taser and say he felt the guy go for his weapons and feared for his safety that if he was incapacitated he would continue to do more harm. Either way, you don’t have to believe his story 100%, just need reasonable doubt. And I think it’s there. But that’s based off the limited information out so far, so I’m not stuck on that mindset.
    He was shot in the back though, so the "fearing for his life" thing is pretty close to beyond reasonable doubt.

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  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    edited June 2020
    They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
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  • tbergs
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    edited June 2020
    wndowpayne said:
    They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
    Are you suggesting that they not arrest him for the DUI and instead just let him go him in a taxi? I don't agree with him being shot in the back, but I also don't agree that we need to start letting people off for driving drunk. Maybe I'm misinterpreting this though and you just mean charge later without the arrest? I don't know his history or what would have happened in court, but most DUIs don't carry much of a criminal charge unless they have repeatedly driven drunk. The civil costs are enormous, but then again, when we've seen how many people die because of a drunk driver, I think it is fair. If you choose to drive a vehicle when drunk, then you are basically saying you don't care about the safety of others. 
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  • mace1229
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    tbergs said:
    wndowpayne said:
    They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
    Are you suggesting that they not arrest him for the DUI and instead just let him go him in a taxi? I don't agree with him being shot in the back, but I also don't agree that we need to start letting people off for driving drunk. I don't know his history or what would have happened in court, but most DUIs don't carry much of a criminal charge unless they have repeatedly driven drunk. The civil costs are enormous, but then again, when we've seen how many people die because of a drunk driver, I think it is fair. If you choose to drive a vehicle when drunk, then you are basically saying you don't care about the safety of others. 
    I agree, Been hearing the same thi Nd, either CNN or MSNBC has a guest saying if he was white he would have been to walk home. I don’t believe that, 0.09 maybe but not for being passed out drunk in a car, 

    And the cost of anDUI is enormous. I heard the average is something like 20k after legal fees and increase to insurance. That doesn’t factor in jobs you don’t get when they asking you’ve ever had a DUI.
  • tempo_n_groove
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    mace1229 said:
    tbergs said:
    wndowpayne said:
    They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
    Are you suggesting that they not arrest him for the DUI and instead just let him go him in a taxi? I don't agree with him being shot in the back, but I also don't agree that we need to start letting people off for driving drunk. I don't know his history or what would have happened in court, but most DUIs don't carry much of a criminal charge unless they have repeatedly driven drunk. The civil costs are enormous, but then again, when we've seen how many people die because of a drunk driver, I think it is fair. If you choose to drive a vehicle when drunk, then you are basically saying you don't care about the safety of others. 
    I agree, Been hearing the same thi Nd, either CNN or MSNBC has a guest saying if he was white he would have been to walk home. I don’t believe that, 0.09 maybe but not for being passed out drunk in a car, 

    And the cost of anDUI is enormous. I heard the average is something like 20k after legal fees and increase to insurance. That doesn’t factor in jobs you don’t get when they asking you’ve ever had a DUI.
    I got taken in on "suspicion" of being intoxicated.  Car towed, brought down to station to blow.  Blew wayyyy under.  Let go, no charges but car was in impound.  Asked the cop for a ride home, he wouldn't do it.  Called a friend.

    Bastards...
  • mace1229
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    edited June 2020
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mace1229 said:
    tbergs said:
    wndowpayne said:
    They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
    Are you suggesting that they not arrest him for the DUI and instead just let him go him in a taxi? I don't agree with him being shot in the back, but I also don't agree that we need to start letting people off for driving drunk. I don't know his history or what would have happened in court, but most DUIs don't carry much of a criminal charge unless they have repeatedly driven drunk. The civil costs are enormous, but then again, when we've seen how many people die because of a drunk driver, I think it is fair. If you choose to drive a vehicle when drunk, then you are basically saying you don't care about the safety of others. 
    I agree, Been hearing the same thi Nd, either CNN or MSNBC has a guest saying if he was white he would have been to walk home. I don’t believe that, 0.09 maybe but not for being passed out drunk in a car, 

    And the cost of anDUI is enormous. I heard the average is something like 20k after legal fees and increase to insurance. That doesn’t factor in jobs you don’t get when they asking you’ve ever had a DUI.
    I got taken in on "suspicion" of being intoxicated.  Car towed, brought down to station to blow.  Blew wayyyy under.  Let go, no charges but car was in impound.  Asked the cop for a ride home, he wouldn't do it.  Called a friend.

    Bastards...
    Wow, I’m surprised they were allowed the impound based on suspicion. That had to cost a few hundred bucks, right? Did you fail a bunch of field tests and forget your ABCs or something?
  • tempo_n_groove
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    mace1229 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mace1229 said:
    tbergs said:
    wndowpayne said:
    They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
    Are you suggesting that they not arrest him for the DUI and instead just let him go him in a taxi? I don't agree with him being shot in the back, but I also don't agree that we need to start letting people off for driving drunk. I don't know his history or what would have happened in court, but most DUIs don't carry much of a criminal charge unless they have repeatedly driven drunk. The civil costs are enormous, but then again, when we've seen how many people die because of a drunk driver, I think it is fair. If you choose to drive a vehicle when drunk, then you are basically saying you don't care about the safety of others. 
    I agree, Been hearing the same thi Nd, either CNN or MSNBC has a guest saying if he was white he would have been to walk home. I don’t believe that, 0.09 maybe but not for being passed out drunk in a car, 

    And the cost of anDUI is enormous. I heard the average is something like 20k after legal fees and increase to insurance. That doesn’t factor in jobs you don’t get when they asking you’ve ever had a DUI.
    I got taken in on "suspicion" of being intoxicated.  Car towed, brought down to station to blow.  Blew wayyyy under.  Let go, no charges but car was in impound.  Asked the cop for a ride home, he wouldn't do it.  Called a friend.

    Bastards...
    Wow, I’m surprised they were allowed the impound based on suspicion. That had to cost a few hundred bucks, right? Did you fail a bunch of field tests and forget your ABCs or something?
    No, the cop was a jerk, I befriended him after the whole thing though.  He said I was "borderline" from what he could tell from the field sobriety tests.  I said "if i'm borderline then let me go, I'm headed home."

    He declined and off I went in cuffs to the station.  Only time I was ever in cuffs.

    Yes it cost me $200 to get the car out the NEXT DAY.

    I was pissed because I always had a 2 beer limit for driving.  Anymore and I call a cab.

    Anywho, that's my story.
  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    edited June 2020
    tbergs said:
    wndowpayne said:
    They could have had him call a taxi or friend...leave the car in the parking lot. Seen it done..Guy was being cordial til they cuffed him. I dont think 3 shots were needed..AND shot in the back..not good..Really bad decision with what is going on these days..Nobody cares if the guy resisted or took the cops tazer AND fired it at him..crazy shit..
    Are you suggesting that they not arrest him for the DUI and instead just let him go him in a taxi? I don't agree with him being shot in the back, but I also don't agree that we need to start letting people off for driving drunk. Maybe I'm misinterpreting this though and you just mean charge later without the arrest? I don't know his history or what would have happened in court, but most DUIs don't carry much of a criminal charge unless they have repeatedly driven drunk. The civil costs are enormous, but then again, when we've seen how many people die because of a drunk driver, I think it is fair. If you choose to drive a vehicle when drunk, then you are basically saying you don't care about the safety of others. 

    Hadn't seen but the final 2-3 minutes...just watched the entire 43 minutes...didn't realize he was so drunk he had no idea where he was..Fuck that guy..let him rot in jail..ooops
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  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    FYI...The last bit was sarcasm..guy didnt deserve to die..but good point on the DUI.
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,239
    edited June 2020
    *wrong thread*
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Now I don't know why the cops were harassing this (presumably) homeless man, but fuck, just do what they say and you won't get fucking shot. No instead he sits down and begins to put his hands in his pants. Ugh...


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