I didnt see him resist in that video. He lay on the floor they beat him so he tried to escape. Why were they beating him when he was on his front face down like they asked.
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Dude the cops have been charged! Obviously their was enough evidence of a crime committed by these cops to warrant an arrest and charges! Did you attend any rallies yet for Orange man 2024 is right around the corner
so he deserved what he got? Even if he was on drugs and had a criminal record or resisted arrest dying from getting beat is not what’s supposed to happen at all!
I didnt see him resist in that video. He lay on the floor they beat him so he tried to escape. Why were they beating him when he was on his front face down like they asked.
He did resist multiple times. They had a hard time cuffing him, he got up and ran. I don’t know if all of that was before or after the abuse began, I think at least some of it was before. It did look like they had a hard time getting the cuffs on from the very beginning.
That being said, the use of force was way beyond what is appropriate and charges of murder seem like the right call.
I didnt see him resist in that video. He lay on the floor they beat him so he tried to escape. Why were they beating him when he was on his front face down like they asked.
He did resist multiple times. They had a hard time cuffing him, he got up and ran. I don’t know if all of that was before or after the abuse began, I think at least some of it was before. It did look like they had a hard time getting the cuffs on from the very beginning.
That being said, the use of force was way beyond what is appropriate and charges of murder seem like the right call.
if you were being beaten would you lay there and take it or would you try to flee? he had already been hit in the head before he got up and ran. brain trauma could have caused that. when you are getting beat up your fight or flight takes over.
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I didnt see him resist in that video. He lay on the floor they beat him so he tried to escape. Why were they beating him when he was on his front face down like they asked.
He did resist multiple times. They had a hard time cuffing him, he got up and ran. I don’t know if all of that was before or after the abuse began, I think at least some of it was before. It did look like they had a hard time getting the cuffs on from the very beginning.
That being said, the use of force was way beyond what is appropriate and charges of murder seem like the right call.
if you were being beaten would you lay there and take it or would you try to flee? he had already been hit in the head before he got up and ran. brain trauma could have caused that. when you are getting beat up your fight or flight takes over.
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Fist bumping after. Scum. Sick and vile . I watched it again. The guy isnt resisting fuck all 5 officers 1 guy impossible to resist even if he wanted. He was very coherent and submissive
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I refuse to watch the video but I can’t imagine it justifies 5 cops beating someone to death.
I don’t hold it against anyone that doesn’t want to watch the footage, I did watch it all on cnn last night and the pole/skycam footage’s was beyond sickening to me.
I just can’t believe more of the people on the (second) scene aren’t facing any “lesser” charges for the lack of care given after the beating.
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I'm not watching cop torture porn. It has been clear to me for sometime that cops have too much power and authority. Watching another murder video isn't going to change a thing.
Fist bumping after. Scum. Sick and vile . I watched it again. The guy isnt resisting fuck all 5 officers 1 guy impossible to resist even if he wanted. He was very coherent and submissive
the fist bump is a symptom of the cancer within that police department.
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I'm not watching cop torture porn. It has been clear to me for sometime that cops have too much power and authority. Watching another murder video isn't going to change a thing.
I'm totally with you both there.
I'm disgusted by
our media- far and wide- rolling out this video and enticing readers to
view it. Like, that is going to end the violence? I call bullshit.
America fucking loves violence. People are eating this shit up and they
love it. It's sickening.
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I refuse to watch the video but I can’t imagine it justifies 5 cops beating someone to death.
I don’t hold it against anyone that doesn’t want to watch the footage, I did watch it all on cnn last night and the pole/skycam footage’s was beyond sickening to me.
I just can’t believe more of the people on the (second) scene aren’t facing any “lesser” charges for the lack of care given after the beating.
that part is still inder investigation from what I understand and would expect further charges.
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I refuse to watch the video but I can’t imagine it justifies 5 cops beating someone to death.
I don’t hold it against anyone that doesn’t want to watch the footage, I did watch it all on cnn last night and the pole/skycam footage’s was beyond sickening to me.
I just can’t believe more of the people on the (second) scene aren’t facing any “lesser” charges for the lack of care given after the beating.
that part is still inder investigation from what I understand and would expect further charges.
Yeah, they mentioned that the local sherrif’s office hadn’t seen the footage until last night and already 2 deputies were relieved of their duties pending investigation. The EMTs/firefighters who stood around for 15 minutes are absolutely culpable in my eyes.
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I refuse to watch the video but I can’t imagine it justifies 5 cops beating someone to death.
I don’t hold it against anyone that doesn’t want to watch the footage, I did watch it all on cnn last night and the pole/skycam footage’s was beyond sickening to me.
I just can’t believe more of the people on the (second) scene aren’t facing any “lesser” charges for the lack of care given after the beating.
that part is still inder investigation from what I understand and would expect further charges.
Yeah, they mentioned that the local sherrif’s office hadn’t seen the footage until last night and already 2 deputies were relieved of their duties pending investigation. The EMTs/firefighters who stood around for 15 minutes are absolutely culpable in my eyes.
ummm, often they need to wait for an ok by LE that its a stable situation for them to do their part. We'll see how that part shakes out.
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In 67 minutes of video, brutality followed by nonchalance
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If you stumbled on the scene too late, you might have missed him there, bloodied and beaten.
The officers’ demeanors seem untroubled and their work nonurgent as they mill at this quiet corner trading battle tales, a fist bump and a back pat. The police ranks have ballooned, but everyone seems to agree there’s nothing to see here. They tie their boots and fret over their glasses and carp about knee pain, so you might have missed him there among the phalanx that towers above, the ones who wear a smile and spurt laughter and will go home safe.
Look past the men who punched, kicked, shocked, sprayed, dragged and now stand in seeming indifference. Let your eyes drift downward and the crumpled body comes into view. Hands behind his back, one shoe off, he writhes helplessly on the pavement. His screams seem to have ended, his cries for his mother have stopped and his voice has weakened so much his words are hard to discern.
“You can’t go nowhere,” the officer bent over him responds. “You can’t go nowhere.”
In harrowing video of this Memphis night, all eyes are drawn to the chaotic moments of brutality that preceded this and would leave another Black man dead at the hands of police. But alongside the attacks themselves the footage captures another excruciating reality: Minute after minute of officers’ jocular nonchalance as Tyre Nichols lay critically hurt, their behavior seemingly affirming just how ordinary this sort of thing is.
“The cops who murdered Tyre Nichols are not some aberration. They’re not an outlier,” cultural critic Touré wrote on Twitter. “That’s normal police procedure it’s just usually they get away with it.”
It starts at about 8:24 p.m. on a Saturday evening, Jan. 7. What roused officers to pull Nichols over is unseen, but for the routine traffic stop they claimed it was, the escalation appears to be immediate and baffling.
At least three officers surround Nichols’ car as he is yanked from his blue sedan. At least one of them approaches with a gun extended. Nichols can be heard for the first time, saying “I didn’t do anything,” and is pushed to the ground. He voices compliance, repeating “all right” over and over as the officers scream and curse.
“Tase him! Tase him!” one officer barks.
He has been wrestled to the ground, but officers keep yelling for him to lay down, an order that seems to confuse Nichols, who is already lying on his right side. Still, he responds calmly, his voice cracking just a hint as he tries to appease them.
“You guys are really doing a lot right now,” Nichols says. “I’m just trying to go home.”
Nichols finally appears rattled as officers continue to shout for him to lie down.
“I am on the ground!” he yells back, before suddenly, he is up and has broken free.
From the time officers opened his car door, only a minute has passed.
Someone fires a stun gun as Nichols runs away. At least two officers go after him, but they give up after about 15 seconds. One officer pants as he radios in for backup and makes his way back to the street where Nichols’ car is left.
About eight minutes later, word comes that the suspect was apprehended.
“I hope they stomp his ass,” one officer says to another. “I hope they stomp his ass.”
It’s 8:33 p.m. now and officers have clustered at the corner of Castlegate and Bear Creek, less than a half-mile from where this started. Nichols’ capture turns brutal with such speed that it’s hard to comprehend.
From a security camera perched above, Nichols is seen lying in the street. Two officers pin him down as a third appears to kick him in the head once, then again.
“Mom! Mom!” he cries.
He’s allowed to sit up, only to have an officer use his baton to beat him on his back. He wobbles up again, then absorbs a series of punches to the face and head. He’s doused in pepper spray.
Nichols seems nearly unable to stand now. He is held up by officers as more blows land. Then, after about five minutes of attacks, he is dragged a short distance, his limp body propped against a car.
It’s 8:38 p.m., just 14 minutes after the initial traffic stop. You can't see Nichols' face, but hospital photos released later will show his nose bent at an unnatural angle and his face bloodied and bruised, almost unrecognizable.
Nichols' moans have been silenced and the night's action has largely stopped. Left in its wake is the ever-growing number of officers who wander, chit-chat and, most of all, just stand by with such nonchalance you'd think nothing had ever happened. Paramedics arrive a few minutes later and, still, Nichols appears unattended to.
He was only a minute or two from the home he shared with his mother, RowVaughn Wells. The officers’ voices capture them calling him “bitch,” “bastard” and worse.
His mom knows the truth. He was 29 and imbued with California mellow, a FedEx worker, amateur photographer, skateboarder and “damn near perfect” mama’s boy. He did no drugs, Wells said, and had no guns. He went out to take pictures of the sky and never made it home.
The footage runs more than 20 minutes more until an ambulance blocks the shot. Wells can't bear to watch it anyway.
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That’ll be the day when the Blue Lives Matter and Back the Blue crowd demand that police agencies across ‘Murica, from the state police and city police to town police and county sheriff’s offices, stand down and look inward and evaluate and assess their policies and procedures. To reach out to experts in policing, use of force, deescalation techniques, training and ethics and implement real change to become better, safer and more humane. That they haven’t, as if they bear no responsibility, speaks volumes. I can’t think of any other profession that where a problem has been identified, it continuously happens and the public demands change, nothing is done internally on a state or federal level. Where’s the FOP, the national policing organizations, the police unions, etc.? Why aren’t they advocating for and promoting changes in tactics? 32 years after Rodney King and nothing has changed.
There’s definitely something wrong with police culture/community when they refuse to look inward.
I refuse to watch the video but I can’t imagine it justifies 5 cops beating someone to death.
I don’t hold it against anyone that doesn’t want to watch the footage, I did watch it all on cnn last night and the pole/skycam footage’s was beyond sickening to me.
I just can’t believe more of the people on the (second) scene aren’t facing any “lesser” charges for the lack of care given after the beating.
that part is still inder investigation from what I understand and would expect further charges.
Yeah, they mentioned that the local sherrif’s office hadn’t seen the footage until last night and already 2 deputies were relieved of their duties pending investigation. The EMTs/firefighters who stood around for 15 minutes are absolutely culpable in my eyes.
ummm, often they need to wait for an ok by LE that its a stable situation for them to do their part. We'll see how that part shakes out.
I hear what you’re saying (I’m assuming you mean the EMTs) but I just can’t understand how someone who’s ostensibly on the scene to render aid if needed can stand around seemingly chatting with police for a full 15 minutes while there’s someone on the ground writhing and moaning in pain before they started to do anything directly). It wasn’t clear if the first two guys with (seemingly) medical bags were firefighters or paramedics but either way on top of the beating this was beyond the pale for me.
The video cut out quickly after the stretcher was brought (I’m assuming those were definitely paramedics) and the ambulance pulled up (blocking the camera’s view).
As you said we’ll see how the process plays out, and I apologize if I’m being a bit strong on this point.
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I refuse to watch the video but I can’t imagine it justifies 5 cops beating someone to death.
I don’t hold it against anyone that doesn’t want to watch the footage, I did watch it all on cnn last night and the pole/skycam footage’s was beyond sickening to me.
I just can’t believe more of the people on the (second) scene aren’t facing any “lesser” charges for the lack of care given after the beating.
that part is still inder investigation from what I understand and would expect further charges.
Yeah, they mentioned that the local sherrif’s office hadn’t seen the footage until last night and already 2 deputies were relieved of their duties pending investigation. The EMTs/firefighters who stood around for 15 minutes are absolutely culpable in my eyes.
ummm, often they need to wait for an ok by LE that its a stable situation for them to do their part. We'll see how that part shakes out.
I hear what you’re saying (I’m assuming you mean the EMTs) but I just can’t understand how someone who’s ostensibly on the scene to render aid if needed can stand around seemingly chatting with police for a full 15 minutes while there’s someone on the ground writhing and moaning in pain before they started to do anything directly). It wasn’t clear if the first two guys with (seemingly) medical bags were firefighters or paramedics but either way on top of the beating this was beyond the pale for me.
The video cut out quickly after the stretcher was brought (I’m assuming those were definitely paramedics) and the ambulance pulled up (blocking the camera’s view).
As you said we’ll see how the process plays out, and I apologize if I’m being a bit strong on this point.
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If you watch the video and listen to the cops it reminds me of the Rodney King video. They keep beating the shit out of someone who can't understand commands from being hit.
The paramedics that are looking over him say " he looks high as a kite" . The guy can't make any coherent words because he was beaten so bad.
Nichols ran away from fear, no doubt about it. He did not deserve any of that.
Why did the cops drag him out of the car in the first place? I read reckless driving. You drag someone out of a car for reckless driving?
This was a failure to policing of epic proportions.
I didnt see him resist in that video. He lay on the floor they beat him so he tried to escape. Why were they beating him when he was on his front face down like they asked.
He did resist multiple times. They had a hard time cuffing him, he got up and ran. I don’t know if all of that was before or after the abuse began, I think at least some of it was before. It did look like they had a hard time getting the cuffs on from the very beginning.
That being said, the use of force was way beyond what is appropriate and charges of murder seem like the right call.
if you were being beaten would you lay there and take it or would you try to flee? he had already been hit in the head before he got up and ran. brain trauma could have caused that. when you are getting beat up your fight or flight takes over.
yeah and he was pretty close to home...likely trying to at least get home so that his family could witness what was going on
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I didnt see him resist in that video. He lay on the floor they beat him so he tried to escape. Why were they beating him when he was on his front face down like they asked.
He did resist multiple times. They had a hard time cuffing him, he got up and ran. I don’t know if all of that was before or after the abuse began, I think at least some of it was before. It did look like they had a hard time getting the cuffs on from the very beginning.
That being said, the use of force was way beyond what is appropriate and charges of murder seem like the right call.
if you were being beaten would you lay there and take it or would you try to flee? he had already been hit in the head before he got up and ran. brain trauma could have caused that. when you are getting beat up your fight or flight takes over.
Yeah... it's pretty f'ed up that we hold it against someone attempting to flee from people who are trying to murder them, police or otherwise.
I also haven't watched the video, nor do I intend to.
If you watch the video and listen to the cops it reminds me of the Rodney King video. They keep beating the shit out of someone who can't understand commands from being hit.
The paramedics that are looking over him say " he looks high as a kite" . The guy can't make any coherent words because he was beaten so bad.
Nichols ran away from fear, no doubt about it. He did not deserve any of that.
Why did the cops drag him out of the car in the first place? I read reckless driving. You drag someone out of a car for reckless driving?
This was a failure to policing of epic proportions.
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It's a cultural problem...It's about the power and ability to whatever you want to "certain" people. As we learned in Uvalde, it's not even a police role to "protect." They don't want to protect anyone unless it comes in the process of exerting power. It doesn't even matter of some of them are good. The culture is broken.
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It's a cultural problem...It's about the power and ability to whatever you want to "certain" people. As we learned in Uvalde, it's not even a police role to "protect." They don't want to protect anyone unless it comes in the process of exerting power. It doesn't even matter of some of them are good. The culture is broken.
They all wore body cams. I thought the body cams would eliminate the bad shit, I guess not.
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I just can’t believe more of the people on the (second) scene aren’t facing any “lesser” charges for the lack of care given after the beating.
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ummm, often they need to wait for an ok by LE that its a stable situation for them to do their part. We'll see how that part shakes out.
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If you stumbled on the scene too late, you might have missed him there, bloodied and beaten.
The officers’ demeanors seem untroubled and their work nonurgent as they mill at this quiet corner trading battle tales, a fist bump and a back pat. The police ranks have ballooned, but everyone seems to agree there’s nothing to see here. They tie their boots and fret over their glasses and carp about knee pain, so you might have missed him there among the phalanx that towers above, the ones who wear a smile and spurt laughter and will go home safe.
Look past the men who punched, kicked, shocked, sprayed, dragged and now stand in seeming indifference. Let your eyes drift downward and the crumpled body comes into view. Hands behind his back, one shoe off, he writhes helplessly on the pavement. His screams seem to have ended, his cries for his mother have stopped and his voice has weakened so much his words are hard to discern.
“You can’t go nowhere,” the officer bent over him responds. “You can’t go nowhere.”
In harrowing video of this Memphis night, all eyes are drawn to the chaotic moments of brutality that preceded this and would leave another Black man dead at the hands of police. But alongside the attacks themselves the footage captures another excruciating reality: Minute after minute of officers’ jocular nonchalance as Tyre Nichols lay critically hurt, their behavior seemingly affirming just how ordinary this sort of thing is.
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“The cops who murdered Tyre Nichols are not some aberration. They’re not an outlier,” cultural critic Touré wrote on Twitter. “That’s normal police procedure it’s just usually they get away with it.”
The 67 minutes of body camera and surveillance footage released in the case are a muddled and messy picture of the night that would lead to Nichols’ death and murder charges for five officers, all also Black. The views are at times obscured and the story incomplete, but the video also offers stunning clarity of what happened.
It starts at about 8:24 p.m. on a Saturday evening, Jan. 7. What roused officers to pull Nichols over is unseen, but for the routine traffic stop they claimed it was, the escalation appears to be immediate and baffling.
At least three officers surround Nichols’ car as he is yanked from his blue sedan. At least one of them approaches with a gun extended. Nichols can be heard for the first time, saying “I didn’t do anything,” and is pushed to the ground. He voices compliance, repeating “all right” over and over as the officers scream and curse.
“Tase him! Tase him!” one officer barks.
He has been wrestled to the ground, but officers keep yelling for him to lay down, an order that seems to confuse Nichols, who is already lying on his right side. Still, he responds calmly, his voice cracking just a hint as he tries to appease them.
“You guys are really doing a lot right now,” Nichols says. “I’m just trying to go home.”
Nichols finally appears rattled as officers continue to shout for him to lie down.
“I am on the ground!” he yells back, before suddenly, he is up and has broken free.
From the time officers opened his car door, only a minute has passed.
Someone fires a stun gun as Nichols runs away. At least two officers go after him, but they give up after about 15 seconds. One officer pants as he radios in for backup and makes his way back to the street where Nichols’ car is left.
About eight minutes later, word comes that the suspect was apprehended.
“I hope they stomp his ass,” one officer says to another. “I hope they stomp his ass.”
It’s 8:33 p.m. now and officers have clustered at the corner of Castlegate and Bear Creek, less than a half-mile from where this started. Nichols’ capture turns brutal with such speed that it’s hard to comprehend.
From a security camera perched above, Nichols is seen lying in the street. Two officers pin him down as a third appears to kick him in the head once, then again.
“Mom! Mom!” he cries.
He’s allowed to sit up, only to have an officer use his baton to beat him on his back. He wobbles up again, then absorbs a series of punches to the face and head. He’s doused in pepper spray.
Nichols seems nearly unable to stand now. He is held up by officers as more blows land. Then, after about five minutes of attacks, he is dragged a short distance, his limp body propped against a car.
It’s 8:38 p.m., just 14 minutes after the initial traffic stop. You can't see Nichols' face, but hospital photos released later will show his nose bent at an unnatural angle and his face bloodied and bruised, almost unrecognizable.
Nichols' moans have been silenced and the night's action has largely stopped. Left in its wake is the ever-growing number of officers who wander, chit-chat and, most of all, just stand by with such nonchalance you'd think nothing had ever happened. Paramedics arrive a few minutes later and, still, Nichols appears unattended to.
He was only a minute or two from the home he shared with his mother, RowVaughn Wells. The officers’ voices capture them calling him “bitch,” “bastard” and worse.
His mom knows the truth. He was 29 and imbued with California mellow, a FedEx worker, amateur photographer, skateboarder and “damn near perfect” mama’s boy. He did no drugs, Wells said, and had no guns. He went out to take pictures of the sky and never made it home.
The footage runs more than 20 minutes more until an ambulance blocks the shot. Wells can't bear to watch it anyway.
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The video cut out quickly after the stretcher was brought (I’m assuming those were definitely paramedics) and the ambulance pulled up (blocking the camera’s view).
As you said we’ll see how the process plays out, and I apologize if I’m being a bit strong on this point.
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no, I get it. feel the same.
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The paramedics that are looking over him say " he looks high as a kite" . The guy can't make any coherent words because he was beaten so bad.
Nichols ran away from fear, no doubt about it. He did not deserve any of that.
Why did the cops drag him out of the car in the first place? I read reckless driving. You drag someone out of a car for reckless driving?
This was a failure to policing of epic proportions.
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I also haven't watched the video, nor do I intend to.
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It's a cultural problem...It's about the power and ability to whatever you want to "certain" people. As we learned in Uvalde, it's not even a police role to "protect." They don't want to protect anyone unless it comes in the process of exerting power. It doesn't even matter of some of them are good. The culture is broken.
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