Girl tries knifing another girl, girl gets kicked while down by a guy.
The guy is lucky he wasn't shot.
I don't know about this one...
According to some reports the girl called the police because four other girls were coming after her and she grabbed a knife to defend herself against four others. Also she is a kid.
Kids can't kill, hurt or maim?
A different girl gets kicked, not with the knife. I can only go by what I see. Hindsight is out the window.
Should the girl have been shot? She was trying to knife someone else. Does the cop let her do that and then be called out for NOT doing something?
It's a lose lose here.
What would you have the cop do?
Assess the situation like the other three in scene that didn’t come out guns blazing...
And while you're assessing a girl is getting stabbed to death.
Going back to stand your ground. If this is a gang of girls that are threatening her, does she not have a right to self defense? It’s crazy that the default is always finding a way to justify cops when often times the official story is something like this... how any of you have faith in the police at this point is beyond me.
I don't know how much self defense it is. All the details haven't been released, but where did she get the knife? Does she illegally carry? Or what probably happened is she goes inside, gets a knife, and comes back out for another confrontation. At that point, its not self defense, the police have a right to intervene. I'm sure you'd be happy for the police if it was your daughter than was about 1/10 of a second away from being stabbed.
I’m not gonna go Matt Gaetz here, but my step daughter is half black, and likely the police would never give her the benefit of the doubt. I’ve been co parenting her since she was three. Do I need to start teaching her it isn’t ok to stick up for herself or call the cops if she is in trouble? Because that’s what it’s starting to look like. Unlike some armchair quarterbacks here this shit affects my house and family. Last summer she asked my wife and I in tears if police would kill her biological dad. Imagine having that conversation with an 8 year old. She isn’t getting this from the media I assure you, we don’t own a TV. Part of parenting has become having these conversations on the regular and it is exhausting.
This isn’t some woke exercise based on a white old lady giving a corporate race training for some of us. It affects our families and close friends and loved ones.
If you aren’t affected by any of this and it’s just a philosophical issue, the chances are you dont have black or minority friends and family and don’t belong to any of those groups.
So as a father to a Black girl I am gonna say the cops were in no way justified here.
Those like static are the people we need to listen to, speak with, and trust. I can’t possibly comment on his truth because it’s not my truth. I did not face this challenge when raising my children so I cannot dismiss this, this is his families reality.
When those who truly know speak we should all listen. We can ask questions but in doing so we can’t deny the answers.
I’m not saying anyone is doing that here Just saying listen in order to better understand.
Don’t listen to me, for the love of god listen to your Black friends, family and co-workers.
I didn’t mean anything derogatory....but I still think you know better than most of us Sooo sorry if I offended you, it was definitely not my intention
I’m not offended at all. Just underlining the fact that it is way more important to listen to the Black loved ones in your life than some white dude on the PJ message boards. I got your meaning and appreciate it, but the real understanding comes from talking to the people that are the most affected by the racism problem in our country and policing. It usually means having very hard and awkward conversations, but helps come to a greater understanding.
That’s why I posted “When those who truly know speak we should all listen.” So I thought I wrote it to include many, many people
Unfortunately you may be the only person some of these people know who have contact with black Americans.
Girl tries knifing another girl, girl gets kicked while down by a guy.
The guy is lucky he wasn't shot.
I don't know about this one...
According to some reports the girl called the police because four other girls were coming after her and she grabbed a knife to defend herself against four others. Also she is a kid.
Kids can't kill, hurt or maim?
A different girl gets kicked, not with the knife. I can only go by what I see. Hindsight is out the window.
Should the girl have been shot? She was trying to knife someone else. Does the cop let her do that and then be called out for NOT doing something?
It's a lose lose here.
What would you have the cop do?
Assess the situation like the other three in scene that didn’t come out guns blazing...
And while you're assessing a girl is getting stabbed to death.
Going back to stand your ground. If this is a gang of girls that are threatening her, does she not have a right to self defense? It’s crazy that the default is always finding a way to justify cops when often times the official story is something like this... how any of you have faith in the police at this point is beyond me.
I don't know how much self defense it is. All the details haven't been released, but where did she get the knife? Does she illegally carry? Or what probably happened is she goes inside, gets a knife, and comes back out for another confrontation. At that point, its not self defense, the police have a right to intervene. I'm sure you'd be happy for the police if it was your daughter than was about 1/10 of a second away from being stabbed.
I’m not gonna go Matt Gaetz here, but my step daughter is half black, and likely the police would never give her the benefit of the doubt. I’ve been co parenting her since she was three. Do I need to start teaching her it isn’t ok to stick up for herself or call the cops if she is in trouble? Because that’s what it’s starting to look like. Unlike some armchair quarterbacks here this shit affects my house and family. Last summer she asked my wife and I in tears if police would kill her biological dad. Imagine having that conversation with an 8 year old. She isn’t getting this from the media I assure you, we don’t own a TV. Part of parenting has become having these conversations on the regular and it is exhausting.
This isn’t some woke exercise based on a white old lady giving a corporate race training for some of us. It affects our families and close friends and loved ones.
If you aren’t affected by any of this and it’s just a philosophical issue, the chances are you dont have black or minority friends and family and don’t belong to any of those groups.
So as a father to a Black girl I am gonna say the cops were in no way justified here.
Those like static are the people we need to listen to, speak with, and trust. I can’t possibly comment on his truth because it’s not my truth. I did not face this challenge when raising my children so I cannot dismiss this, this is his families reality.
When those who truly know speak we should all listen. We can ask questions but in doing so we can’t deny the answers.
I’m not saying anyone is doing that here Just saying listen in order to better understand.
Don’t listen to me, for the love of god listen to your Black friends, family and co-workers.
I didn’t mean anything derogatory....but I still think you know better than most of us Sooo sorry if I offended you, it was definitely not my intention
I’m not offended at all. Just underlining the fact that it is way more important to listen to the Black loved ones in your life than some white dude on the PJ message boards. I got your meaning and appreciate it, but the real understanding comes from talking to the people that are the most affected by the racism problem in our country and policing. It usually means having very hard and awkward conversations, but helps come to a greater understanding.
I ask questions all the time. I am surprised at the answers I get sometimes too.
What I don't have is an Asian friend to ask what they think about all the violence happening towards the Asian/Chinese people going on country wide right now.
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"State police confirmed that they have body camera footage of the shooting but said they will not release it publicly."
This is unacceptable
wtf? isn't that the whole point of body cam footage?
I don't agree with always releasing the body cam right away. Actually, I think it should be delayed until after an investigation. If they don't decide to press charges, then release it to publicly show why. If they do decide to press charges, dont release it until after the trial. You want as impartial of a jury as you can get. The more video, the more media attention the more difficult that is, the more likely for appeals.
"State police confirmed that they have body camera footage of the shooting but said they will not release it publicly."
This is unacceptable
wtf? isn't that the whole point of body cam footage?
I don't agree with always releasing the body cam right away. Actually, I think it should be delayed until after an investigation. If they don't decide to press charges, then release it to publicly show why. If they do decide to press charges, dont release it until after the trial. You want as impartial of a jury as you can get. The more video, the more media attention the more difficult that is, the more likely for appeals.
Yeah but it does bring on skepticism to not release it. The Columbus, OH police released the bodycam of the girl with a knife being shot as a way to circumvent false narratives. Like "Here it is, she was about to stab the girl in the pink." Here, who knows what happened?
I think there were some big mistakes in the Chauvan trial. I never agreed with sequestering a jury before, but I think this one should have been. I will be surprised if he doesn't win an appeal and this is all repeated again. A pig head and blood spread over the former house of a defense witness. Public comments by politicians and celebrities. The constant media coverage. I don't know how anyone couldn't agree that they likely were influenced or possibly intimidated. I know had I been a juror I would have feared for my family had I voted for anything less than murder. I will be surprised if he doesn't get an appeal and there is round 2. Emotions will probably be even higher next time if he's out on appeal. Thats why I dont think releasing body cam is a good idea until after a trial or charges are dropped. Keep it for the courtroom, release it when its done.
"State police confirmed that they have body camera footage of the shooting but said they will not release it publicly."
This is unacceptable
wtf? isn't that the whole point of body cam footage?
I don't agree with always releasing the body cam right away. Actually, I think it should be delayed until after an investigation. If they don't decide to press charges, then release it to publicly show why. If they do decide to press charges, dont release it until after the trial. You want as impartial of a jury as you can get. The more video, the more media attention the more difficult that is, the more likely for appeals.
There's nothing that stops the local convenient store from releasing their security footage.
There's nothing that stops the local onlooker from releasing their camera-phone footage.
Why is the police body-cam footage any different? (hint: because it's incriminating)
Evidence is evidence. More is better. Sooner is better.
"State police confirmed that they have body camera footage of the shooting but said they will not release it publicly."
This is unacceptable
wtf? isn't that the whole point of body cam footage?
I don't agree with always releasing the body cam right away. Actually, I think it should be delayed until after an investigation. If they don't decide to press charges, then release it to publicly show why. If they do decide to press charges, dont release it until after the trial. You want as impartial of a jury as you can get. The more video, the more media attention the more difficult that is, the more likely for appeals.
There's nothing that stops the local convenient store from releasing their security footage.
There's nothing that stops the local onlooker from releasing their camera-phone footage.
Why is the police body-cam footage any different? (hint: because it's incriminating)
Evidence is evidence. More is better. Sooner is better.
All that is true. But just because others do it that makes it okay? And not every instance has other video. I do think it should be made public for transparency. I just don’t think it should happen before an investigation or trial.
"State police confirmed that they have body camera footage of the shooting but said they will not release it publicly."
This is unacceptable
wtf? isn't that the whole point of body cam footage?
I don't agree with always releasing the body cam right away. Actually, I think it should be delayed until after an investigation. If they don't decide to press charges, then release it to publicly show why. If they do decide to press charges, dont release it until after the trial. You want as impartial of a jury as you can get. The more video, the more media attention the more difficult that is, the more likely for appeals.
Yeah but it does bring on skepticism to not release it. The Columbus, OH police released the bodycam of the girl with a knife being shot as a way to circumvent false narratives. Like "Here it is, she was about to stab the girl in the pink." Here, who knows what happened?
You think the stabbing is a false narrative? Looks to me like she was about 0.5 seconds away from stabbing that girl with a 6” knife. I don’t know how a video created a false narrative. Video should do the opposite, you can see for yourself and make your own decision.
"State police confirmed that they have body camera footage of the shooting but said they will not release it publicly."
This is unacceptable
wtf? isn't that the whole point of body cam footage?
I don't agree with always releasing the body cam right away. Actually, I think it should be delayed until after an investigation. If they don't decide to press charges, then release it to publicly show why. If they do decide to press charges, dont release it until after the trial. You want as impartial of a jury as you can get. The more video, the more media attention the more difficult that is, the more likely for appeals.
Yeah but it does bring on skepticism to not release it. The Columbus, OH police released the bodycam of the girl with a knife being shot as a way to circumvent false narratives. Like "Here it is, she was about to stab the girl in the pink." Here, who knows what happened?
You think the stabbing is a false narrative? Looks to me like she was about 0.5 seconds away from stabbing that girl with a 6” knife. I don’t know how a video created a false narrative. Video should do the opposite, you can see for yourself and make your own decision.
No. I'm saying they put out the video so that there wouldn't be false narratives.
"State police confirmed that they have body camera footage of the shooting but said they will not release it publicly."
This is unacceptable
wtf? isn't that the whole point of body cam footage?
I don't agree with always releasing the body cam right away. Actually, I think it should be delayed until after an investigation. If they don't decide to press charges, then release it to publicly show why. If they do decide to press charges, dont release it until after the trial. You want as impartial of a jury as you can get. The more video, the more media attention the more difficult that is, the more likely for appeals.
Yeah but it does bring on skepticism to not release it. The Columbus, OH police released the bodycam of the girl with a knife being shot as a way to circumvent false narratives. Like "Here it is, she was about to stab the girl in the pink." Here, who knows what happened?
You think the stabbing is a false narrative? Looks to me like she was about 0.5 seconds away from stabbing that girl with a 6” knife. I don’t know how a video created a false narrative. Video should do the opposite, you can see for yourself and make your own decision.
No. I'm saying they put out the video so that there wouldn't be false narratives.
Ok, yeah I agree. I’m assuming the higher ups saw the video, saw the shooting likely saved another girls life. Decided charges likely would not be filed and quickly released it for the reason you just said. Still didn’t stop the false narratives though. By that I mean many media sources downplaying a 6” knife like that’s part of every schoolyard fight every day.
"State police confirmed that they have body camera footage of the shooting but said they will not release it publicly."
This is unacceptable
wtf? isn't that the whole point of body cam footage?
I don't agree with always releasing the body cam right away. Actually, I think it should be delayed until after an investigation. If they don't decide to press charges, then release it to publicly show why. If they do decide to press charges, dont release it until after the trial. You want as impartial of a jury as you can get. The more video, the more media attention the more difficult that is, the more likely for appeals.
Yeah but it does bring on skepticism to not release it. The Columbus, OH police released the bodycam of the girl with a knife being shot as a way to circumvent false narratives. Like "Here it is, she was about to stab the girl in the pink." Here, who knows what happened?
You think the stabbing is a false narrative? Looks to me like she was about 0.5 seconds away from stabbing that girl with a 6” knife. I don’t know how a video created a false narrative. Video should do the opposite, you can see for yourself and make your own decision.
No. I'm saying they put out the video so that there wouldn't be false narratives.
Ok, yeah I agree. I’m assuming the higher ups saw the video, saw the shooting likely saved another girls life. Decided charges likely would not be filed and quickly released it for the reason you just said. Still didn’t stop the false narratives though. By that I mean many media sources downplaying a 6” knife like that’s part of every schoolyard fight every day.
Oh yeah, I've seen some of that coverage and it's been ridiculous.
"State police confirmed that they have body camera footage of the shooting but said they will not release it publicly."
This is unacceptable
wtf? isn't that the whole point of body cam footage?
I don't agree with always releasing the body cam right away. Actually, I think it should be delayed until after an investigation. If they don't decide to press charges, then release it to publicly show why. If they do decide to press charges, dont release it until after the trial. You want as impartial of a jury as you can get. The more video, the more media attention the more difficult that is, the more likely for appeals.
There's nothing that stops the local convenient store from releasing their security footage.
There's nothing that stops the local onlooker from releasing their camera-phone footage.
Why is the police body-cam footage any different? (hint: because it's incriminating)
Evidence is evidence. More is better. Sooner is better.
All that is true. But just because others do it that makes it okay? And not every instance has other video. I do think it should be made public for transparency. I just don’t think it should happen before an investigation or trial.
Why not?
People are able to craft their own opinions, are they not?
What does it matter if it's released right away?
By not releasing it, it gives police a chance to lie like they did in the Floyd case. To craft their own narrative. To build their defense and sway the jury before trial starts.
All police body cam footage should be released immediately. There's absolutely no reason not to.
"State police confirmed that they have body camera footage of the shooting but said they will not release it publicly."
This is unacceptable
wtf? isn't that the whole point of body cam footage?
I don't agree with always releasing the body cam right away. Actually, I think it should be delayed until after an investigation. If they don't decide to press charges, then release it to publicly show why. If they do decide to press charges, dont release it until after the trial. You want as impartial of a jury as you can get. The more video, the more media attention the more difficult that is, the more likely for appeals.
There's nothing that stops the local convenient store from releasing their security footage.
There's nothing that stops the local onlooker from releasing their camera-phone footage.
Why is the police body-cam footage any different? (hint: because it's incriminating)
Evidence is evidence. More is better. Sooner is better.
All that is true. But just because others do it that makes it okay? And not every instance has other video. I do think it should be made public for transparency. I just don’t think it should happen before an investigation or trial.
Why not?
People are able to craft their own opinions, are they not?
What does it matter if it's released right away?
By not releasing it, it gives police a chance to lie like they did in the Floyd case. To craft their own narrative. To build their defense and sway the jury before trial starts.
All police body cam footage should be released immediately. There's absolutely no reason not to.
100% agree. The protection of bad cops needs to stop now. Also Floyds death was caught on video by a bystander. Who knows what would have happened if they were not there with a crowd of people witnessing and released the footage. I would bet that this would have been the end of it.
"State police confirmed that they have body camera footage of the shooting but said they will not release it publicly."
This is unacceptable
wtf? isn't that the whole point of body cam footage?
Ummm not necessarily. I would imagine the biggest reason is for the department.
That said - to NEVER release it you would have to have some very solid reasons I would think. But I could certainly see the link I not having access for a while
I won't say the cop did everything right. But I would advise against pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me."
Slow day in Danville. Jaywalking is the “excuse” for confronting the dead suspect. “Come here.” I wonder if he added, “boy,” to the end of his command.
I won't say the cop did everything right. But I would advise against pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me."
Slow day in Danville. Jaywalking is the “excuse” for confronting the dead suspect. “Come here.” I wonder if he added, “boy,” to the end of his command.
I have no idea, but there's no mention that he did. Will you not agree that pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me" is a bad idea?
I won't say the cop did everything right. But I would advise against pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me."
Slow day in Danville. Jaywalking is the “excuse” for confronting the dead suspect. “Come here.” I wonder if he added, “boy,” to the end of his command.
I have no idea, but there's no mention that he did. Will you not agree that pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me" is a bad idea?
Of course it is. I am not even sure why you think you need to ask that question or make that point. Does it mean the cop should fulfill your wish? I would hope not. We all know what suicide by cop is and we all should know how serious mental health issues can be.
I won't say the cop did everything right. But I would advise against pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me."
Slow day in Danville. Jaywalking is the “excuse” for confronting the dead suspect. “Come here.” I wonder if he added, “boy,” to the end of his command.
I have no idea, but there's no mention that he did. Will you not agree that pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me" is a bad idea?
Yes, but it’s also a bad idea to harass someone for jay walking or to use it as an excuse to engage someone. It’s like looking for a reason to have a confrontation so you can pad your arrest numbers. Did he say “kill me?” Why didn’t he tase the guy? Why is it always shoot first, then remember the three previous steps of escalation of violence protocol? Did the cop walk right up to him to engage him and invade his personal space? I thought cops were trained to maintain a safe distance upon initial engagement? Did he call for back up? At what point in the confrontation did he activate his body camera? Sure, all the responsibility of police/civilian interactions falls on the civilian. Just comply.
Nine shots to kill a “suspicious person,” sounds to me like this cop had a lot of self control issues.
I won't say the cop did everything right. But I would advise against pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me."
Slow day in Danville. Jaywalking is the “excuse” for confronting the dead suspect. “Come here.” I wonder if he added, “boy,” to the end of his command.
I have no idea, but there's no mention that he did. Will you not agree that pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me" is a bad idea?
Of course it is. I am not even sure why you think you need to ask that question or make that point. Does it mean the cop should fulfill your wish? I would hope not. We all know what suicide by cop is and we all should know how serious mental health issues can be.
I've spoken with people who attempted suicide by cop. They were grateful the cops opted for more appropriate measures to subdue them as opposed fulfilling their wishes.
I won't say the cop did everything right. But I would advise against pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me."
Slow day in Danville. Jaywalking is the “excuse” for confronting the dead suspect. “Come here.” I wonder if he added, “boy,” to the end of his command.
Yikes, I don't know why anyone would bother defending this shitty cop. It's unfortunate the department did not do something about him after the 2018 shooting that already seemed sketchy. This seems like a cop who dabbles in the gray areas of use of force and found 2 instances where he could be "justified" for his actions even though both seem like lethal force was not necessary. These are the types of cops who need to be removed from the job. I don't have an issue with a police officer enforcing or making contact with people violating laws, but their approach to the situation plays as much of a part in how it ends as the accused actions in response to them. There is a world of difference between responding to a violent incident in progress like we saw in OH and a cop initiating contact during a non-violent law violation. That doesn't mean there can't be a reason for justified lethal force, but these situations don't seem that way at all.
I won't say the cop did everything right. But I would advise against pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me."
Slow day in Danville. Jaywalking is the “excuse” for confronting the dead suspect. “Come here.” I wonder if he added, “boy,” to the end of his command.
I have no idea, but there's no mention that he did. Will you not agree that pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me" is a bad idea?
Of course it is. I am not even sure why you think you need to ask that question or make that point. Does it mean the cop should fulfill your wish? I would hope not. We all know what suicide by cop is and we all should know how serious mental health issues can be.
It was more a response to the comments "Can't wait to hear the justification and he should just comply." That comes across as putting no blame on the victim. Even when the cop is wrong, often the victim shares some responsibility. The cop shouldn't have shot, but you don't pull a knife on a cop either and say "kill me." They both share responsibility here.
I won't say the cop did everything right. But I would advise against pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me."
Slow day in Danville. Jaywalking is the “excuse” for confronting the dead suspect. “Come here.” I wonder if he added, “boy,” to the end of his command.
I have no idea, but there's no mention that he did. Will you not agree that pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me" is a bad idea?
Of course it is. I am not even sure why you think you need to ask that question or make that point. Does it mean the cop should fulfill your wish? I would hope not. We all know what suicide by cop is and we all should know how serious mental health issues can be.
It was more a response to the comments "Can't wait to hear the justification and he should just comply." That comes across as putting no blame on the victim. Even when the cop is wrong, often the victim shares some responsibility. The cop shouldn't have shot, but you don't pull a knife on a cop either and say "kill me." They both share responsibility here.
Jaywalking. Dead. Cops need to learn to prioritize the level of infraction in "To Serve & To Protect," and respond accordingly. Often the victim shares all of the responsibility based on a lot the pro-cop comments I've read.
I won't say the cop did everything right. But I would advise against pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me."
Slow day in Danville. Jaywalking is the “excuse” for confronting the dead suspect. “Come here.” I wonder if he added, “boy,” to the end of his command.
I have no idea, but there's no mention that he did. Will you not agree that pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me" is a bad idea?
Of course it is. I am not even sure why you think you need to ask that question or make that point. Does it mean the cop should fulfill your wish? I would hope not. We all know what suicide by cop is and we all should know how serious mental health issues can be.
It was more a response to the comments "Can't wait to hear the justification and he should just comply." That comes across as putting no blame on the victim. Even when the cop is wrong, often the victim shares some responsibility. The cop shouldn't have shot, but you don't pull a knife on a cop either and say "kill me." They both share responsibility here.
Jaywalking. Dead. Cops need to learn to prioritize the level of infraction in "To Serve & To Protect," and respond accordingly. Often the victim shares all of the responsibility based on a lot the pro-cop comments I've read.
He wasn't killed for j-walking. He was killed because he pulled a knife on the cop, he just happened to have j-walked just prior to doing so. I wouldn't J-walk in front of a cop, I know they give out tickets for that. The cop may have been able to deescalate the situation. But he definitely should not have pulled the knife either. If you're going to blame a cop for not deescalating a situation when faced with a knife, lets also blame the guy for pulling a knife on the cop and not say he was killed for j-walking.
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“When those who truly know speak we should all listen.” So I thought I wrote it to include many, many people
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"State police confirmed that they have body camera footage of the shooting but said they will not release it publicly."
This is unacceptable
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A pig head and blood spread over the former house of a defense witness. Public comments by politicians and celebrities. The constant media coverage. I don't know how anyone couldn't agree that they likely were influenced or possibly intimidated. I know had I been a juror I would have feared for my family had I voted for anything less than murder. I will be surprised if he doesn't get an appeal and there is round 2. Emotions will probably be even higher next time if he's out on appeal.
Thats why I dont think releasing body cam is a good idea until after a trial or charges are dropped. Keep it for the courtroom, release it when its done.
There's nothing that stops the local convenient store from releasing their security footage.
There's nothing that stops the local onlooker from releasing their camera-phone footage.
Why is the police body-cam footage any different? (hint: because it's incriminating)
Evidence is evidence. More is better. Sooner is better.
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Still didn’t stop the false narratives though. By that I mean many media sources downplaying a 6” knife like that’s part of every schoolyard fight every day.
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Why not?
People are able to craft their own opinions, are they not?
What does it matter if it's released right away?
By not releasing it, it gives police a chance to lie like they did in the Floyd case. To craft their own narrative. To build their defense and sway the jury before trial starts.
All police body cam footage should be released immediately. There's absolutely no reason not to.
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Will you not agree that pulling a knife on a cop and saying "kill me" is a bad idea?
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The cop may have been able to deescalate the situation. But he definitely should not have pulled the knife either. If you're going to blame a cop for not deescalating a situation when faced with a knife, lets also blame the guy for pulling a knife on the cop and not say he was killed for j-walking.