what do you think of America's leadership sense obama got elected ?
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does anybody remember Florida in the 80's and "cocaine cowboys" do you remember who was doing all the killing ? and where they were from and here ilegally, it really wassn't that long ago.
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Obama lied to get health care passed. Bush lied to get a war passed. Clinton lied about an affair. The legacy of the last 3 presidents are all based on lies. And your asking about leadership? The "leadership" in politics in this country is a joke.0
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Think one of the reasons stock market didn't take nose dive after the recent world events is there isn't a fear that the US will over react. So when you look at your 401 and smile, thank our current foreign policy.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0
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Look at what those three lies were about. One of these things just doesn't belong here, one if these things just isn't the same...Last-12-Exit said:Obama lied to get health care passed. Bush lied to get a war passed. Clinton lied about an affair. The legacy of the last 3 presidents are all based on lies. And your asking about leadership? The "leadership" in politics in this country is a joke.
That aside, you are correct. The political and governmental leadership in this country is a joke.
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Glad I don't live in the white house.Godfather. said:
I AGREE ! everybody I personally talk to believes we need to wipe out and replace every member in the white house and that is something I believe whole hartedly...they'er all self serving pieces (Byrnzie did spell that correctly bro ?rr165892 said:
Thats all white noise,just like when Ted Cruz opens his trap.Obama COULD be a great Leader,he just has not done so yet.The law suit impeachment games is nonsense.Next election cycle will take care of a lot of that.All these clowns need to remember who they work for.I demand Better from both sides.This shit stinks from the right and the left.None of the partisans look good here,non of them.gimmesometruth27 said:
how will he leave his mark when the fucking republicans are going to impeach him? they are going to make him spend his time defending himself in court so he has less time to try to lead and to try to accomplish everything.rr165892 said:
Bush had his issues for sure.But in his first term I felt Colin Powell,was a real,assest.Cant say the rest of his Admin was,just saying.rgambs said:
+1!rr165892 said:They are all useless right now.Right Dosent want to work with left,left hates the right.Cant agree on anything.Budget, foreign policy ,Immigration.SMH
I don't care wether your a Dem or. Rep this shit is broken and I don't think the current players on either side help.I can't remember a more partisan divide.Politcs is trumping lawmaking that can help this country.At least when Clinton and Reagan were in office they both new how to play the middle and reach out for compromise.Things got done.We need shorter term limits so people in office can govern and not spend 1/2 the time worring about what their party says,or about raising money for next election.Leadership?What Leadership?Its all "It's not us its them"from both sides.
but to say obma bad foreign policy is head in the sand! the whole world despised bush, obama sucks but better.
I still am watching and waiting for this admins to qoute Van Wilder "dare to be great" foreign policy moment.Was getting Osama the frosting on the cake or is something special still to come.He has time to try to really leave his mark.
is it really that hard for everyone to see the republican playbook and what is going on right now?? open up your eyes and demand better!!!
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I'm still a Jimmy Carter fanboy too!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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No ,I thank my excellent choice of investments and a Rockstar broker.;)But I get your point.callen said:Think one of the reasons stock market didn't take nose dive after the recent world events is there isn't a fear that the US will over react. So when you look at your 401 and smile, thank our current foreign policy.
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She wasn't even that hot.Dude was leader of the free world.He shoulda been pulling top shelf talent.JimmyV said:
Look at what those three lies were about. One of these things just doesn't belong here, one if these things just isn't the same...Last-12-Exit said:Obama lied to get health care passed. Bush lied to get a war passed. Clinton lied about an affair. The legacy of the last 3 presidents are all based on lies. And your asking about leadership? The "leadership" in politics in this country is a joke.
That aside, you are correct. The political and governmental leadership in this country is a joke.0 -
Your not talking about Crockett and Tubbs right?Godfather. said:does anybody remember Florida in the 80's and "cocaine cowboys" do you remember who was doing all the killing ? and where they were from and here ilegally, it really wassn't that long ago.
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He is absolutely referring to Crockett and Tubbs.rr165892 said:
Your not talking about Crockett and Tubbs right?Godfather. said:does anybody remember Florida in the 80's and "cocaine cowboys" do you remember who was doing all the killing ? and where they were from and here ilegally, it really wassn't that long ago.
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Point being that what those three president will be remembered for are all based on lies.JimmyV said:
Look at what those three lies were about. One of these things just doesn't belong here, one if these things just isn't the same...Last-12-Exit said:Obama lied to get health care passed. Bush lied to get a war passed. Clinton lied about an affair. The legacy of the last 3 presidents are all based on lies. And your asking about leadership? The "leadership" in politics in this country is a joke.
That aside, you are correct. The political and governmental leadership in this country is a joke.0 -
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If he grants amnesty for 5 million I would finally support his impeachment. This is a gross abuse of executive orders. We need to reign in presidential power.gimmesometruth27 said:
oh you know it is bullshit when you say obama COULD be a great leader. the guy is scared because everything he does, republicans say he is trampling the constitution and breaking the law. even when he acts on bills that REPUBLICANS SUPPORTED AND VOTED FOR!! it is like "alright we passed this bill, oh wait, obama supports it? i withdraw my support of it!!!"rr165892 said:
Thats all white noise,just like when Ted Cruz opens his trap.Obama COULD be a great Leader,he just has not done so yet.The law suit impeachment games is nonsense.Next election cycle will take care of a lot of that.All these clowns need to remember who they work for.I demand Better from both sides.This shit stinks from the right and the left.None of the partisans look good here,non of them.gimmesometruth27 said:
how will he leave his mark when the fucking republicans are going to impeach him? they are going to make him spend his time defending himself in court so he has less time to try to lead and to try to accomplish everything.rr165892 said:
Bush had his issues for sure.But in his first term I felt Colin Powell,was a real,assest.Cant say the rest of his Admin was,just saying.rgambs said:
+1!rr165892 said:They are all useless right now.Right Dosent want to work with left,left hates the right.Cant agree on anything.Budget, foreign policy ,Immigration.SMH
I don't care wether your a Dem or. Rep this shit is broken and I don't think the current players on either side help.I can't remember a more partisan divide.Politcs is trumping lawmaking that can help this country.At least when Clinton and Reagan were in office they both new how to play the middle and reach out for compromise.Things got done.We need shorter term limits so people in office can govern and not spend 1/2 the time worring about what their party says,or about raising money for next election.Leadership?What Leadership?Its all "It's not us its them"from both sides.
but to say obma bad foreign policy is head in the sand! the whole world despised bush, obama sucks but better.
I still am watching and waiting for this admins to qoute Van Wilder "dare to be great" foreign policy moment.Was getting Osama the frosting on the cake or is something special still to come.He has time to try to really leave his mark.
is it really that hard for everyone to see the republican playbook and what is going on right now?? open up your eyes and demand better!!!
please do not pretend that it is otherwise. this is how it is, and it is how our system works.
nothing passes in the senate because you now have to have 60 votes for anything to move to the floor for debate. the dems routinely get 55, 56, 58 votes on something, with votes like 57-42, and nothing can move forward. you can not blame obama for that.0 -
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I lost a lot of respect for Obama after the first debt ceiling issue. He had both parties go to a room to figure it out. They came back with no solution. He should've told them 'do not come out of that room until you have a solution'.Fighting childhood obesity...
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So true... but kind of an interesting respite from the crazy-world shit.Cliffy6745 said:This thread makes no since
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Drowned Out said:
This is classic godfather
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U lik oboma?
A. Good
B. Bad
C. Dumb
No room for the grey, eh?
(I almost wrote 'Muslim' for answer B., but that might have been a touch provocative).
) well you got me, I thought obama was a fucktard right from the start and here we are over 6 years later and so many of the train members are still blaming Bush and the Rebublicans(and so does berry-o) for obama's poor sense of judgement and a shitty job over all as president and probably the worst in my time, muslim's ? the muslims ......well you know how I feel.
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worst in your time, what a joke! I understand annoyance at bush blaming but get your head out of the sand and think about things! Economy is better, less americans have died abroad, and he can speak in full sentences. Or does that make him seem pretentious to you? Il take a muslim over a backward ass hilljack attitude any day of the week!Godfather. said:Drowned Out said:This is classic godfather
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U lik oboma?
A. Good
B. Bad
C. Dumb
No room for the grey, eh?
(I almost wrote 'Muslim' for answer B., but that might have been a touch provocative).) well you got me, I thought obama was a fucktard right from the start and here we are over 6 years later and so many of the train members are still blaming Bush and the Rebublicans(and so does berry-o) for obama's poor sense of judgement and a shitty job over all as president and probably the worst in my time, muslim's ? the muslims ......well you know how I feel.
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worst in your time, what a joke! I understand annoyance at bush blaming but get your head out of the sand and think about things! Economy is better, less americans have died abroad, and he can speak in full sentences. Or does that make him seem pretentious to you? Il take a muslim over a backward ass hilljack attitude any day of the week!Godfather. said:Drowned Out said:This is classic godfather
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U lik oboma?
A. Good
B. Bad
C. Dumb
No room for the grey, eh?
(I almost wrote 'Muslim' for answer B., but that might have been a touch provocative).) well you got me, I thought obama was a fucktard right from the start and here we are over 6 years later and so many of the train members are still blaming Bush and the Rebublicans(and so does berry-o) for obama's poor sense of judgement and a shitty job over all as president and probably the worst in my time, muslim's ? the muslims ......well you know how I feel.
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