what do you think of America's leadership sense obama got elected ?
Godfather.
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what do you think of America's leadership sense obama got elected ? 21 votes
leadership is fine in America
42%
9 votes
leadership has fallen apart in America
38%
8 votes
not sure
19%
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since obama got elected our federal leadership has disappeared because the republicans will not work with him. obama says "the sky is blue" and they say "we aren't sure but instead of looking into it and coming to a consensus, we are going to sue your muslim ass."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
1, obama did not pull troops out early. he adhered to the status of forces agreement that troops will be out by 2012 signed by fucking bush!!!! obama tried to stay there longer and al maliki said we had to go.
2. the people obama traded for bowe bergdahl were people that republicans agreed with releasing before they were released. once they got released, they changed their minds and opposed it.
you know what? every single one of the claims made by the person in the article have been throughly debunked, and have been discussed in other threads on here. i am not going to waste any more time posting in this thread.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Godfather.
they can go fuck themselves, sitting there doing nothing, and then when their participation is required, they divert their efforts to a baseless lawsuit. maybe the conservatives should look in a mirror just once and ask themselves why the system is not working instead of blaming obama for failing in the "set-him-up-to-fail" environment they have created for him.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"Well, Jane, I really liked Bill Clinton and I sort of like Hillary but I'm not so sure now. But what really gets me is now I hear Chelsea Clinton is thinking of going into politics. I mean, it's like it's turning into a Moooooooooooonarchy! I mean, what next? Queen Clinton?"
LOL!
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
you give far too much credit to the power of a president! POTUSI must work with congress to accomplish anything legally so what can a president do with such an obstructive congress?? Well obviously the only thing he can do on his own is issue Exec. Orders which arent strictly legal (never stopped bush lol he taught obama how to do it), which furthers the obstructionist agenda. Dont forget that across all political leanings congress has a lower approval rating! You have not adressed the conservative obstructionism at all to my knowledge on these threads. Its always, "Obamas fault", maybe some research into the powers of the 3 branches and the limitations of the exec. would be helpful.
Stayed out of Libya.
Getting out of Afghanistan
Better than last for sure.
I don't care wether your a Dem or. Rep this shit is broken and I don't think the current players on either side help.I can't remember a more partisan divide.Politcs is trumping lawmaking that can help this country.At least when Clinton and Reagan were in office they both new how to play the middle and reach out for compromise.Things got done.We need shorter term limits so people in office can govern and not spend 1/2 the time worring about what their party says,or about raising money for next election.Leadership?What Leadership?Its all "It's not us its them"from both sides.
Iraq is still fucked,Syria is a fucking mess(What about Benghazi?)Taliban still doing there thing.Middle east is a mess,Russia is going nuts,IRS nonsense,(this is a biggy btw)NSA problems
Not all peaches and cream.
Hes had his positive moments to be fair wit getting Osama,and some of his social agenda items.
Jury still out on Obama care, but def not a strong foreign policy guy and will be interesting to see how immigration shakes out.Holder is a detriment.
Im an Independant so I am not partisan.
but to say obma bad foreign policy is head in the sand! the whole world despised bush, obama sucks but better.
everybody needs to check out real time with bill maher from last night. there were 2 tea party conservatives on the panel who kept spouting off about failure of leadership and failure of this and that, and bill maher finally asked for specifics. neither one of the guys could provide specifics about what obama should be doing differently, just that something needs to change. if you can't name one specific, just one, they you have to stop bitching. one guy basically said obama should be impeached because he failed to buy battle helicopters from france. one guy said obama's failed leadership is because he used drones to attack people in other countries. maher asked if the guy would rather him send in airstrikes or put armies on the ground, and the guy said no to both. maher asked something like "well what other option is there and what suggestion do you have? what do you want him to do??" and the guy could not answer.
that simple question made 2 anti obama conserviative hacks look like morons.
this is a very stupid question to have a survey about, because nobody has suggested any alternatives. it is just a leading question to bash the president.
i mean, look at the link address and the website associated with it.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Really Benghazi? You say your not partisan but mention this? Do you think Cheney/ Bush helped the world/US cause?
Yes healthcare. Equality. What did recent past administrations do?
Economy is rocking. Stock market all Time high. Unemployment lower. Obama's not fucking with Washington and Colorado. Inflation in check. Auto industry thriving.
Imagine how really fucked up things would be with McCain and Palin at helm.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I still am watching and waiting for this admins to qoute Van Wilder "dare to be great" foreign policy moment.Was getting Osama the frosting on the cake or is something special still to come.He has time to try to really leave his mark.
is it really that hard for everyone to see the republican playbook and what is going on right now?? open up your eyes and demand better!!!
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
...Wait! I think I got it! :-D
This is a partisan crowd here for the left.I know this.But I'm not in either camp politically.Nor do I fall into a tea party thing either.I try to form my own opinion.
To answer your question I think Bush did do some things to help this country sure I do( Just like I said above for Obama)But bush also did a bunch of stupid shit.Hello Iraq??
Past admins have been better for sure Both Clinton and Reagan admins not only shaped the world we live in and ushered change,but they got things done.I supported both.You know voting for the best man/woman and not party lines= non partisan.
Just because I don't agree with An Obama admin decision Dosent make me partisan or a republican,just like disagreeing with bush Didnt make me a dem.
And no I don't want the US to fix the world I want us to help the world be a better world.Thats what a strong leadership should do.
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Obama will always be judged with the caveat that he inherited Bush's twin disasters in finance and foreign policy. There was no magic wand to wave and fix the damage.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."