So this is justification to support Terrorists? You can't be serious.Your answer must be yes,I support the groups which the world considers terror organizations.I hope those who rally behind your shocking media posts also realize who and why you support who you do.At least own it.At least stand up and say it,instead of being covert about it.Twist my words all you want I'm just trying to keep it all real out in front.
You haven't answered my question. I asked you to define 'terror organization'. Go on. I know you can do it. I'm waiting.
Shots fired into Al Jazeera's office in Gaza, a day after Israeli FM said Israel will work to close down the network.
Stefanie Dekker said two shots were fired into the building where Al Jazeera is located Gunshots have been fired into Al Jazeera’s bureau in the Gaza Strip amid an intensified bombardment campaign on the Palestinian enclave.
The shots caused panic among the civilians living in the same building but no casualties have been reported in the incident on Tuesday morning.
"Two very precise shots were fired straight into our building", Al Jazeera’s Stefanie Dekker, reporting from the bureau in Gaza said.
"We are high up in the building so we had a very strong vantage point over the area. But we have evacuated."
The bureau is situated in a residential area of Gaza City.
"Our office building also has many residential apartments. People [are] leaving, panicked. The AP [news agency] also has office there and [has] evacuated."
'Incitement' accusations
The attack came a day after Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman was quoted by local media as saying his country will work to close down Al Jazeera in Israel.
Al Jazeera "has abandoned even the perception of being a reliable news organisation and broadcasts from Gaza and to the world anti-Israel incitement, lies, and encouragement to the terrorists," Lieberman said.
Al Jazeera has been covering the Israeli offensive on the Gaza Strip that started on July 8.
"The foreign minister’s comments were a direct threat against us and appear to have been taken as a green light for the targeting of our journalists in Gaza. We hold the Israeli authorities fully responsible. They have put the lives of journalists in danger," the network said in a statement.
The death toll in Israel’s 14-day assault climbed to more than 607 Palestinians, including dozens of women and children. More than 3,700 others have been injured.
On the Israeli side, 27 troops and two civilians have been killed.
On Tuesday, the Israeli army said one of its soldiers was missing in Gaza.
Shots fired into Al Jazeera's office in Gaza, a day after Israeli FM said Israel will work to close down the network.
Stefanie Dekker said two shots were fired into the building where Al Jazeera is located Gunshots have been fired into Al Jazeera’s bureau in the Gaza Strip amid an intensified bombardment campaign on the Palestinian enclave.
The shots caused panic among the civilians living in the same building but no casualties have been reported in the incident on Tuesday morning.
"Two very precise shots were fired straight into our building", Al Jazeera’s Stefanie Dekker, reporting from the bureau in Gaza said.
"We are high up in the building so we had a very strong vantage point over the area. But we have evacuated."
The bureau is situated in a residential area of Gaza City.
"Our office building also has many residential apartments. People [are] leaving, panicked. The AP [news agency] also has office there and [has] evacuated."
'Incitement' accusations
The attack came a day after Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman was quoted by local media as saying his country will work to close down Al Jazeera in Israel.
Al Jazeera "has abandoned even the perception of being a reliable news organisation and broadcasts from Gaza and to the world anti-Israel incitement, lies, and encouragement to the terrorists," Lieberman said.
Al Jazeera has been covering the Israeli offensive on the Gaza Strip that started on July 8.
"The foreign minister’s comments were a direct threat against us and appear to have been taken as a green light for the targeting of our journalists in Gaza. We hold the Israeli authorities fully responsible. They have put the lives of journalists in danger," the network said in a statement.
The death toll in Israel’s 14-day assault climbed to more than 607 Palestinians, including dozens of women and children. More than 3,700 others have been injured.
On the Israeli side, 27 troops and two civilians have been killed.
On Tuesday, the Israeli army said one of its soldiers was missing in Gaza.
It's open season in Gaza. Anyone and everyone's a target - all in the name of self-defence, of course.
An Israeli army officer who fired the entire magazine of his automatic rifle into a 13-year-old Palestinian girl and then said he would have done the same even if she had been three years old was acquitted on all charges by a military court yesterday.
...A recording of radio exchanges between Capt R and his troops obtained by Israeli television revealed that from the beginning soldiers identified Iman as a child.
In the recording, a soldier in a watchtower radioed a colleague in the army post's operations room and describes Iman as "a little girl" who was "scared to death". After soldiers first opened fire, she dropped her schoolbag which was then hit by several bullets establishing that it did not contain explosive. At that point she was no longer carrying the bag and, the tape revealed, was heading away from the army post when she was shot.
..Palestinian witnesses said they saw the captain shoot Iman twice in the head, walk away, turn back and fire a stream of bullets into her body.
Yup, self defense. Fucken coward. Idf, fucking cowards. Put down your fucken weapons you fucken cowards. Enough already. Jesus fucken Christ, sickening. Where's the Israeli supporters chimming in on this story?
you have to acknowledge the shortcomings and faults on both sides.Thats my point.Of course he can have his position but lets at least agree that there is enough guilt,fault,and blood on both sides to go around. And BOTH sides have to concede the tough issues that keep them killing and at a stalemate
I've already explained to you why this conflict has been allowed to go on for 47 years. But yet you continue spouting your Islamophobic gibberish.
Why do you keep ignoring the facts, and pretending that 'both sides are as bad as each other'? Even a five year old with one iota of honesty could see that this is not a contest between equals. By pretending that this is a level playing field, you're simply siding with the oppressor. Now why would you do that?
You've made a few telling comments on here squawking about Muslims, such as Muslims wanting the "total elimination of Jews and Christians in the Middle East", and Muslims who "want also a western free,Jewish free and non Muslim free world and Middle East", and "I as a American have felt the loss of our sons and daughters fighting global terror,which these groups like other extremists groups are part of."
Just for your information, Hamas are not a part of any Global terror. They're part of a resistance movement fighting an illegal occupation.
Before you continue trying to lecture me on the rights and wrongs of this issue, I suggest you try educating yourself on it. And that doesn't mean that you should spend more time watching CNN either.
But let's get down to brass tacks here: you don't like Muslims very much, do you? Your ridiculous Islamophobic bullshit is all too telling.
And yet you have the audacity to accuse me of spreading hate, and of supporting violence?
So this is justification to support Terrorists? You can't be serious.Your answer must be yes,I support the groups which the world considers terror organizations.I hope those who rally behind your shocking media posts also realize who and why you support who you do.At least own it.At least stand up and say it,instead of being covert about it.Twist my words all you want I'm just trying to keep it all real out in front.
You haven't answered my question. I asked you to define 'terror organization'. Go on. I know you can do it. I'm waiting.
Terrorism as we both know is Violence to forward a political agenda.But as bad brains said earlier we both are referencing the same issue from different points of view.As an outsider I can see the glaring faults of both sides and unlike you I can admit it. Ive always personally had a real issue with regimes that disregard human life to the point where violence is acceptable against innocent people.Sure you can say the same.I think it's how it's applied.Marterdom is applauded by Hamas,Al-Qaeda ,Hezbeloh,Isis,and the like.Strapping bombs to kids.Kids for fuck sake.and teens and walking into bistros and markets and blowing up to get a high body count is sick terrorism.For what,protest over land?Naming streets and celebrating these same acts to me is also in the mix.We don't need to rehash the old arguments we had on the other thread with things like hijackings,embassy bombings,Olympic athlete murders,kidnapping of groups of girls,Blowing up buildings,etc,etc,etc....... I get in a war with two armies soldiers become victims.Although no less horrible it is understandable.But picking off random peeps to make a statement is wrong.
you have to acknowledge the shortcomings and faults on both sides.Thats my point.Of course he can have his position but lets at least agree that there is enough guilt,fault,and blood on both sides to go around. And BOTH sides have to concede the tough issues that keep them killing and at a stalemate
I've already explained to you why this conflict has been allowed to go on for 47 years.
Why do you keep ignoring the facts, and pretending that 'both sides are as bad as each other'? Even a five year old with one iota of honesty could see that this is not a contest between equals. By pretending that this is a level playing field, you're simply siding with the oppressor. Now why would you do that?
You've made a few telling comments on here squawking about Muslims, such as Muslims wanting the "total elimination of Jews and Christians in the Middle East", and Muslims who "want also a western free,Jewish free and non Muslim free world and Middle East", and "I as a American have felt the loss of our sons and daughters fighting global terror,which these groups like other extremists groups are part of."
You don't like Muslims very much, do you? Your ridiculous Islamophobic bullshit is all too telling.
And yet you have the audacity to accuse me of spreading hate, and of supporting violence?
Oh he definitely hates us Muslims, no doubt. And all the shit he spewed about us mite offend a lot of Muslims, but not me. Just shows me who he truly is. And that, well, doesn't really say much.
I 100% support Israel's right to exist and protect itself.I don't support All that it takes to do that.I also support Palestinians right to exist and remain in the land they were on.I don't support all it takes to do that.So there it is.
RR said: I get in a war with two armies soldiers become victims.Although no less horrible it is understandable.But picking off random peeps to make a statement is wrong.
I 100% support Israel's right to exist and protect itself.I don't support All that it takes to do that.I also support Palestinians right to exist and remain in the land they were on.I don't support all it takes to do that.So there it is.
Your so right Badbrains.It is a matter of perspective.But,and it is a big but,you have to acknowledge the shortcomings and faults on both sides.Thats my point.Of course he can have his position but lets at least agree that there is enough guilt,fault,and blood on both sides to go around. And BOTH sides have to concede the tough issues that keep them killing and at a stalemate
But you have to admit that one side is getting way more of the brunt of the violence. Way more of the blood. Disproportionately so.
Hamas is guilty of shooting rockets at random Israeli civilian populations but to little or no effect. It's like the little kid who gets bullied on the playground trying to throw sand in the eye of the big bully and always missing. Then the big bully beats him down, walks to the little kids house, beats down his family.....kicks his dog on the way out......and the little kid gets up and tries to throw sand in the bullies face again.
But make no mistake who the big bully is.
They have the might and the right to defend itself .It Dosent matter if Hamas Missles hit or not
Your so right Badbrains.It is a matter of perspective.
No, it's not a matter of perspective. It's a matter of sticking to the facts. Something which I know you have a big problem with. You'd prefer instead to squawk about 'global terror', and Muslims wanting the "total elimination of Jews and Christians in the Middle East", e.t.c.
Your so right Badbrains.It is a matter of perspective.But,and it is a big but,you have to acknowledge the shortcomings and faults on both sides.Thats my point.Of course he can have his position but lets at least agree that there is enough guilt,fault,and blood on both sides to go around. And BOTH sides have to concede the tough issues that keep them killing and at a stalemate
But you have to admit that one side is getting way more of the brunt of the violence. Way more of the blood. Disproportionately so.
Hamas is guilty of shooting rockets at random Israeli civilian populations but to little or no effect. It's like the little kid who gets bullied on the playground trying to throw sand in the eye of the big bully and always missing. Then the big bully beats him down, walks to the little kids house, beats down his family.....kicks his dog on the way out......and the little kid gets up and tries to throw sand in the bullies face again.
But make no mistake who the big bully is.
They have the might and the right to defend itself .It Dosent matter if Hamas Missles hit or not
Your so right Badbrains.It is a matter of perspective.
No, it's not a matter of perspective. It's a matter of sticking to the facts. Something which I know you have a big problem with. You'd prefer instead to squawk about 'global terror', and Muslims wanting the "total elimination of Jews and Christians in the Middle East", e.t.c.
I 100% support Israel's right to exist and protect itself.I don't support All that it takes to do that.
That wasn't my question. My question was whether you support the illegal occupation and land-grab. So what's your answer?
Not peaceful Muslims ,fundamentalist extremist Muslims .Big difference.Fundamentalist anything is bad.
How about this Byrnzie.I will answer your loaded question when you answer my big question.Do you support Hamas,Hezbollah and the like.Do you believe as they do that all Jews/Israelis/Christians should be removed from Muslim land?
I do not support the continued expansion of the Israeli settlements.I do not support the stringent Border closings by Israel and Egypt.I also do support a easing of Naval blockade.I support a pull back immediately for humanitarian aid.I support Israel being able to make its borders safe.
How about this Byrnzie.I will answer your loaded question when you answer my big question.Do you support Hamas,Hezbollah and the like.Do you believe as they do that all Jews/Israelis/Christians should be removed from Muslim land?
Do I support Hamas and Hezbollah? Yes, I do. Although I realize that you don't know the first fucking thing about either group, which is why you've lumped them in together, just as you lump them in with 'global terror' and 'attacks on Western interests', e.t.c. Hamas were elected in a free and fair election by the people of Gaza, and they've done a lot to secure a relatively well functioning civilian infrastructure considering they've been operating in the face of a seven year blockade and repeated Israeli incursions and extra-judicial assassinations. Does that mean that I support the fact that in the past they've carried out terrorist attacks? No, it doesn't.
As for your comment that they believe that all Jews/Israelis/Christians should be removed from Muslim lands, this is bullshit, inspired by your racist Islamophobia, and can't be taken seriously. You're simply trying to turn reality on it's head in the face of Israel's ongoing ethnic cleansing campaign.
Now answer my question: Do you support Israel's illegal occupation and land-grab?
I do not support the continued expansion of the Israeli settlements.I do not support the stringent Border closings by Israel and Egypt.I also do support a easing of Naval blockade.I support a pull back immediately for humanitarian aid.
I support Israel being able to make its borders safe.
And what borders are you referring to? It's legal borders, based on the 1967 lines, or the borders of the 1949 Armistice line? Or it's current borders, which are illegal, and expanding as we speak?
These faces and pictures would be ALL OVER THE FRONT PAGES of EVERY MAIN MEDIA OUTLET in the US if these humans were supporting Israel. Yup, our media ISNT bias that's for sure.
An Israeli army officer who fired the entire magazine of his automatic rifle into a 13-year-old Palestinian girl and then said he would have done the same even if she had been three years old was acquitted on all charges by a military court yesterday.
...A recording of radio exchanges between Capt R and his troops obtained by Israeli television revealed that from the beginning soldiers identified Iman as a child.
In the recording, a soldier in a watchtower radioed a colleague in the army post's operations room and describes Iman as "a little girl" who was "scared to death". After soldiers first opened fire, she dropped her schoolbag which was then hit by several bullets establishing that it did not contain explosive. At that point she was no longer carrying the bag and, the tape revealed, was heading away from the army post when she was shot.
..Palestinian witnesses said they saw the captain shoot Iman twice in the head, walk away, turn back and fire a stream of bullets into her body.
Yup, self defense. Fucken coward. Idf, fucking cowards. Put down your fucken weapons you fucken cowards. Enough already. Jesus fucken Christ, sickening. Where's the Israeli supporters chimming in on this story?
How do you have time to regurgitate stories from 2005
These faces and pictures would be ALL OVER THE FRONT PAGES of EVERY MAIN MEDIA OUTLET in the US if these humans were supporting Israel. Yup, our media ISNT bias that's for sure.
Both side have to stop with this media bias BS! The propaganda is so silly and does nothing to change the situation.
An Israeli army officer who fired the entire magazine of his automatic rifle into a 13-year-old Palestinian girl and then said he would have done the same even if she had been three years old was acquitted on all charges by a military court yesterday.
...A recording of radio exchanges between Capt R and his troops obtained by Israeli television revealed that from the beginning soldiers identified Iman as a child.
In the recording, a soldier in a watchtower radioed a colleague in the army post's operations room and describes Iman as "a little girl" who was "scared to death". After soldiers first opened fire, she dropped her schoolbag which was then hit by several bullets establishing that it did not contain explosive. At that point she was no longer carrying the bag and, the tape revealed, was heading away from the army post when she was shot.
..Palestinian witnesses said they saw the captain shoot Iman twice in the head, walk away, turn back and fire a stream of bullets into her body.
Yup, self defense. Fucken coward. Idf, fucking cowards. Put down your fucken weapons you fucken cowards. Enough already. Jesus fucken Christ, sickening. Where's the Israeli supporters chimming in on this story?
How do you have time to regurgitate stories from 2005
I use the same time you use to regurgitate stories from 1000 years ago laying claim to the land belonging to the jews. You know, I looked at your avatar and it's fitting. Obama is the pimp and israel is the hooker, only in present day its actually reversed.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/dermer-idf-deserves-nobel-peace-prize-for-unimaginable-restraint/ “Some are shamelessly accusing Israel of genocide and would put us in the dock for war crimes,. But the truth is that the Israeli Defense Forces should be given the Nobel Peace Prize… a Nobel Peace Prize for fighting with unimaginable restraint.” - Israel’s ambassador to the United States, Ron Dermer
Dermer’s comments followed a statement issued by Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman, who on Sunday said that the IDF is the “most humane and bravest army in the world.
Meanwhile:
A spokesman for the health ministry says that 604 people have now been killed in Gaza and 3,700 injured. Approx 85% of those killed are civilians.
These faces and pictures would be ALL OVER THE FRONT PAGES of EVERY MAIN MEDIA OUTLET in the US if these humans were supporting Israel. Yup, our media ISNT bias that's for sure.
Both side have to stop with this media bias BS! The propaganda is so silly and does nothing to change the situation.
Ummm, hard to stop the bias media in the US. Shit, I believe you live in philly (i was living in west Chester for 1 1/2 years, not that it matters) and most know who own and operate the media outlets. Shit, tmz ran a story that said Selena Gomez supports Hamas because she tweeted something to the extant of stop killing innocent kids or something like that and she didn't even take the tweet down unlike D Howard and Rihanna. Now you're gonna tell me I'm full of shit and blah blah blah. Look up who owns or operates CNN, faux, NBC OR CBS. I can tell u that they have some affiliation with Zionism. Now how can you have a bias media if you support one movement over another? What side are you gonna show to be the "good guy" and what sides gonna be the "bad" guy. Look it up. See who runs these machines. Murdock own what, 70% of all media outlets. An Australian Zionist. Not sure on the exact number but it's close.
How do you have time to regurgitate stories from 2005
It's not difficult. I use a computer. I could easily find hundreds more such stories like the one of the 13 year old school girl being murdered in cold-blood. By the way, the Captain who emptied his entire clip into her was later promoted to the rank of Major.
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Gunshots fired at Al Jazeera bureau in Gaza
Shots fired into Al Jazeera's office in Gaza, a day after Israeli FM said Israel will work to close down the network.
Stefanie Dekker said two shots were fired into the building where Al Jazeera is located
Gunshots have been fired into Al Jazeera’s bureau in the Gaza Strip amid an intensified bombardment campaign on the Palestinian enclave.
The shots caused panic among the civilians living in the same building but no casualties have been reported in the incident on Tuesday morning.
"Two very precise shots were fired straight into our building", Al Jazeera’s Stefanie Dekker, reporting from the bureau in Gaza said.
"We are high up in the building so we had a very strong vantage point over the area. But we have evacuated."
The bureau is situated in a residential area of Gaza City.
"Our office building also has many residential apartments. People [are] leaving, panicked. The AP [news agency] also has office there and [has] evacuated."
'Incitement' accusations
The attack came a day after Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman was quoted by local media as saying his country will work to close down Al Jazeera in Israel.
Al Jazeera "has abandoned even the perception of being a reliable news organisation and broadcasts from Gaza and to the world anti-Israel incitement, lies, and encouragement to the terrorists," Lieberman said.
Al Jazeera has been covering the Israeli offensive on the Gaza Strip that started on July 8.
"The foreign minister’s comments were a direct threat against us and appear to have been taken as a green light for the targeting of our journalists in Gaza. We hold the Israeli authorities fully responsible. They have put the lives of journalists in danger," the network said in a statement.
The death toll in Israel’s 14-day assault climbed to more than 607 Palestinians, including dozens of women and children. More than 3,700 others have been injured.
On the Israeli side, 27 troops and two civilians have been killed.
On Tuesday, the Israeli army said one of its soldiers was missing in Gaza.
Why do you keep ignoring the facts, and pretending that 'both sides are as bad as each other'? Even a five year old with one iota of honesty could see that this is not a contest between equals. By pretending that this is a level playing field, you're simply siding with the oppressor. Now why would you do that?
You've made a few telling comments on here squawking about Muslims, such as Muslims wanting the "total elimination of Jews and Christians in the Middle East", and Muslims who "want also a western free,Jewish free and non Muslim free world and Middle East", and "I as a American have felt the loss of our sons and daughters fighting global terror,which these groups like other extremists groups are part of."
Just for your information, Hamas are not a part of any Global terror. They're part of a resistance movement fighting an illegal occupation.
Before you continue trying to lecture me on the rights and wrongs of this issue, I suggest you try educating yourself on it. And that doesn't mean that you should spend more time watching CNN either.
But let's get down to brass tacks here: you don't like Muslims very much, do you? Your ridiculous Islamophobic bullshit is all too telling.
And yet you have the audacity to accuse me of spreading hate, and of supporting violence?
Ive always personally had a real issue with regimes that disregard human life to the point where violence is acceptable against innocent people.Sure you can say the same.I think it's how it's applied.Marterdom is applauded by Hamas,Al-Qaeda ,Hezbeloh,Isis,and the like.Strapping bombs to kids.Kids for fuck sake.and teens and walking into bistros and markets and blowing up to get a high body count is sick terrorism.For what,protest over land?Naming streets and celebrating these same acts to me is also in the mix.We don't need to rehash the old arguments we had on the other thread with things like hijackings,embassy bombings,Olympic athlete murders,kidnapping of groups of girls,Blowing up buildings,etc,etc,etc.......
I get in a war with two armies soldiers become victims.Although no less horrible it is understandable.But picking off random peeps to make a statement is wrong.
RR said:
I get in a war with two armies soldiers become victims.Although no less horrible it is understandable.But picking off random peeps to make a statement is wrong.
You'd prefer instead to squawk about 'global terror', and Muslims wanting the "total elimination of Jews and Christians in the Middle East", e.t.c. That wasn't my question. My question was whether you support the illegal occupation and land-grab. So what's your answer?
How about this Byrnzie.I will answer your loaded question when you answer my big question.Do you support Hamas,Hezbollah and the like.Do you believe as they do that all Jews/Israelis/Christians should be removed from Muslim land?
As for your comment that they believe that all Jews/Israelis/Christians should be removed from Muslim lands, this is bullshit, inspired by your racist Islamophobia, and can't be taken seriously. You're simply trying to turn reality on it's head in the face of Israel's ongoing ethnic cleansing campaign.
Now answer my question: Do you support Israel's illegal occupation and land-grab?
And what borders are you referring to? It's legal borders, based on the 1967 lines, or the borders of the 1949 Armistice line? Or it's current borders, which are illegal, and expanding as we speak?
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2013- Brooklyn2, Philly1, Philly2, NOLA
http://www.timesofisrael.com/dermer-idf-deserves-nobel-peace-prize-for-unimaginable-restraint/
“Some are shamelessly accusing Israel of genocide and would put us in the dock for war crimes,. But the truth is that the Israeli Defense Forces should be given the Nobel Peace Prize… a Nobel Peace Prize for fighting with unimaginable restraint.” - Israel’s ambassador to the United States, Ron Dermer
Dermer’s comments followed a statement issued by Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman, who on Sunday said that the IDF is the “most humane and bravest army in the world.
Meanwhile:
A spokesman for the health ministry says that 604 people have now been killed in Gaza and 3,700 injured. Approx 85% of those killed are civilians.
Is he a hero of yours?