Gaza ***GRAPHIC PICS***

badbrains

You know what the problem is for the Zionists are? The Palestinians ARENT afraid to die. And sorry to say it, you guys are. Can't win a fight when one sides NOT afraid to die and has nothing to live for anymore. That's why this will never end.

rgambs

badbrains, i am a total supporter of Palestine (not Hamas, but I understand that humans behave as animals when caged) but i think calling for Muslim solidarity is counter-productive. I understand your anger that your Muslim brother countries havnt stepped in, but have you considered the fallout if they did? Clearly there is an anti-muslim bent in the western world (america particularly) and i fear that support for israel would increase if the US media were able to spin this as a racial issue, the "brown jihadists" against the "white-ish Jews". It would be all too easy to paint Israel as the victim if the conflict involved another Arab state. What do you think Byrnzie?

The only solution to this terrible issue is total Palestinian pacifism. They would need to Allow themselves to be slaughtered and oppressed without raising a finger, praying for their aggressors the whole way. Of course that is easy for me to say, and it would mean terrible loss of life, but the world would take notice in a whole new way. I dont think i could do it, so i dont think its a real solution, but theoretically it is the only way that I see.
As my boy Shelley said, in The Masque of Anarchy
"...Look upon them as the slay
Till their rage has died away
Then they will return with shame
To the place from which they came,
And the blood thus shed will speak
In hot blushes on their cheek.
RISE LIKE LIONS AFTER SLUMBER
IN UNVANQUISHABLE NUMBER,
SHAKE YOUR CHAINS TO EARTH LIKE DEW
WHICH IN SLEEP HAD BEFALLEN YOU-
YE ARE MANY-- THEY ARE FEW!
idealistic and not based in reality, i know, but it is quite an ideal to reach for.

SivanMerili

Im telling my side of the story.
You can call it a lie.
I know what is my daily reality.
Im on the israeli side.
If there is here a 10c member from gaza, please speek up.

Byrnzie

Sign the petition - Sack Tony Blair as the Middle East "Peace Envoy": http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/ban-ki-moon-sack-tony-blair-as-the-middle-east-peace-envoy

badbrains

Byrnzie said:

Sign the petition - Sack Tony Blair as the Middle East "Peace Envoy": http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/ban-ki-moon-sack-tony-blair-as-the-middle-east-peace-envoy

Yes people please do!

Byrnzie

I think it's time for everyone to quit responding to this SivanMerili. Let's not give her the false impression that she's being taking seriously by continuing to reply to her gibberish.

badbrains

rgambs said:

badbrains, i am a total supporter of Palestine (not Hamas, but I understand that humans behave as animals when caged) but i think calling for Muslim solidarity is counter-productive. I understand your anger that your Muslim brother countries havnt stepped in, but have you considered the fallout if they did? Clearly there is an anti-muslim bent in the western world (america particularly) and i fear that support for israel would increase if the US media were able to spin this as a racial issue, the "brown jihadists" against the "white-ish Jews". It would be all too easy to paint Israel as the victim if the conflict involved another Arab state. What do you think Byrnzie?

The only solution to this terrible issue is total Palestinian pacifism. They would need to Allow themselves to be slaughtered and oppressed without raising a finger, praying for their aggressors the whole way. Of course that is easy for me to say, and it would mean terrible loss of life, but the world would take notice in a whole new way. I dont think i could do it, so i dont think its a real solution, but theoretically it is the only way that I see.
As my boy Shelley said, in The Masque of Anarchy
"...Look upon them as the slay
Till their rage has died away
Then they will return with shame
To the place from which they came,
And the blood thus shed will speak
In hot blushes on their cheek.
RISE LIKE LIONS AFTER SLUMBER
IN UNVANQUISHABLE NUMBER,
SHAKE YOUR CHAINS TO EARTH LIKE DEW
WHICH IN SLEEP HAD BEFALLEN YOU-
YE ARE MANY-- THEY ARE FEW!
idealistic and not based in reality, i know, but it is quite an ideal to reach for.

You know what rG, I never thought of it like that. Great post. Now you've got me thinking again.

badbrains

Byrnzie said:

I think it's time for everyone to quit responding to this SivanMerili. Let's not give her the false impression that she's being taking seriously by continuing to reply to her gibberish.

I'm gonna do my best byrnzie! It's fucken tough when someone types lie after lie after lie. Talking like it's kosher no matter what proof you show her, it's never enough.

Byrnzie

Wow! What brave, proud people...

http://www.haaretz.com/.premium-1.606848?v=747F2BB12A33B56FAA93DBF1585507A2

Images from Gaza should trouble every Israeli
Israeli hearts are brimming with concern for Israeli soldiers in Gaza; but they have no compassion for victims on the other side, not even for children who are dying in gruesome numbers.
By Gideon Levy | Jul. 24, 2014

'...The website “Walla!” published talkback comments on an article about the four children killed on the Gaza beach. Shani Moyal: “I couldn’t care less that Arab children were killed, too bad it wasn’t more. Well done to the IDF.” Stav Sabah: “Really, these are great pictures. They make me so happy, I want to look at them again and again.” Sharon Avishi: “Only four? Too bad. We hoped for more.” Daniela Turgeman: “Great. We need to kill all the children.” Chaya Hatnovich: “There isn’t a more beautiful picture than those of dead Arab children.” Orna Peretz: “Why only four?” Rachel Cohen: “I’m not for children dying in Gaza. I’m for everyone burning.” Tami Mashan: “As many children as possible should die.”

From their names and accompanying pictures, all the commenters are women. They shop in the stores near your homes, they go to the same movies and vacation spots as you. They’re Israeli. No one would think of firing them from their jobs, like they are doing now to Arabs and left-wingers. No one will condemn them, no one will attack or threaten them. They’re normal, according to the Israeli norms at least, where compassion for the other side is considered treason, and beastly criticism is considered patriotism.'

SivanMerili

Calling hamas freedom fighters put you on the side of terror automaticly.
Congrats, you finaly said it.
You and those who think of hamas as a freedom fighters are supporting their jihad ideology - Israel destruction.

Bravo.
True face. But finaly.

SivanMerili

Israels ditruction = death of the civilians living in it.

Bravo.

End of discussion.

Byrnzie

Good on these people for protesting Israel's latest spree of mass murder:


http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/yorkers-protest-israels.html
In photos: Over 1,000 New Yorkers protest Israel’s attack on Gaza
Alex Kane on July 25, 2014





A demonstrator criticizes the New York mayor for his support for Israel.

Byrnzie

Shame there aren't more Israeli's standing up to the blood-thirsty racist lunatics in their government:

http://forward.com/articles/202671/-israeli-reservists-refuse-to-serve-in-gaza-war/

50 Israeli Reservists Refuse To Serve in Gaza War

By Reuters
Published July 23, 2014.

More than 50 former Israeli soldiers have refused to serve in the nation’s reserve force, citing regret over their part in a military they said plays a central role in oppressing Palestinians, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday.

“We found that troops who operate in the occupied territories aren’t the only ones enforcing the mechanisms of control over Palestinian lives. In truth, the entire military is implicated. For that reason, we now refuse to participate in our reserve duties, and we support all those who resist being called to service,” the soldiers wrote in a petition posted online and first reported by the newspaper.

While some Israelis have refused to serve in the Palestinian territories of the West Bank, the military’s structure is such that serving in any capacity forces one to play a role in the conflict, said the soldiers, most of whom are women who would have been exempted from combat.

“Many of us served in logistical and bureaucratic support roles; there, we found that the entire military helps implement the oppression of the Palestinians,” they said.

Their comments come as the conflict in Gaza continues to escalate, displacing thousands more Palestinians in the battered territory even as the United States presses both sides for an immediate ceasefire and longer-term peace plan.

Earlier this month, Israel said it was mobilizing more reservists in anticipation of increased fighting.

In the petition, the soldiers pointed to the army’s structure and fundamental role in Israeli society as reasons for being unable to decouple any form of service from the fighting.

“The military plays a central role in every action plan and proposal discussed in the national conversation, which explains the absence of any real argument about non-military solutions to the conflicts Israel has been locked in with its neighbors,” the soldiers wrote.

“To us, the current military operation and the way militarization affects Israeli society are inseparable.”

They said they opposed the Israeli Army and conscription law because of how women are limited to low-ranking secretarial positions and because of a screening system that discriminates against Jews whose families originate from Arab nations.

Most 18-year-olds must serve up to three years in the Israeli Defense Forces.

Some groups, such as ultra-Orthodox Jewish seminary students, had been exempted from service, but legislators this year moved to lift that exemption on such students starting in 2017.

Arab-Israelis are exempt from compulsory service.

Byrnzie

Amnesty International’s position on the resolution passed by the Human Rights Council on 23 July:

http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/MDE15/017/2014/en/5b79b682-8d41-4751-9cbc-a0465f6433c3/mde150172014en.html

Document - Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories: Israel/Gaza conflict, July 2014

25 July 2014

What are the different patterns of violations by Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip that Amnesty International has identified since Israel launched Operation “Protective Edge” on 8 June 2014?

Israeli forces have carried out attacks that have killed hundreds of civilians, including through the use of precision weaponry such as drone-fired missiles, and attacks using munitions such as artillery, which cannot be precisely targeted, on very densely populated residential areas, such as Shuja’iyyeh. They have also directly attacked civilian objects. Thousands of homes across the Gaza Strip, several medical facilities, and non-military governmental buildings have been destroyed or badly damaged. Statements by the Israeli military and politicians that they consider the homes of people associated with Hamas, including the homes of political leaders, to be legitimate targets indicate that Israel has adopted targeting rules that do not conform to international humanitarian law, and could be evidence that at least some of the attacks on civilian homes are deliberate policy. Although the Israeli authorities claim to be warning civilians in Gaza, a consistent pattern has emerged that their actions do not constitute an “effective warning” under international humanitarian law. Increasing reports that medics trying to evacuate civilians, workers trying to repair damaged water and sanitation infrastructure, and journalists are coming under fire, killing and injuring some of them, are another very serious concern. Direct attacks on civilians and civilian objects, as well as indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks that are intentional and kill or injure civilians constitute war crimes.

Israeli attacks have caused mass displacement of Palestinian civilians within the Gaza Strip. As of 23 July, the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) reported that over 140,000 internally displaced people were sheltering in schools run by the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), and thousands of others were in Ministry of Education schools or with relatives. The UN has reported that an UNRWA school sheltering displaced people in the al-Maghazi refugee camp in central Gaza was shelled by Israeli forces on at least two occasions, with at least one child injured. Another UN school sheltering displaced families in Beit Hanoun in northern Gaza was struck on 24 July, killing at least 15 civilians and injuring many others, and the UN has called for an immediate investigation.

badbrains

Byrnzie said:

Shame there aren't more Israeli's standing up to the blood-thirsty racist lunatics in their government:

http://forward.com/articles/202671/-israeli-reservists-refuse-to-serve-in-gaza-war/

50 Israeli Reservists Refuse To Serve in Gaza War

By Reuters
Published July 23, 2014.

More than 50 former Israeli soldiers have refused to serve in the nation’s reserve force, citing regret over their part in a military they said plays a central role in oppressing Palestinians, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday.

“We found that troops who operate in the occupied territories aren’t the only ones enforcing the mechanisms of control over Palestinian lives. In truth, the entire military is implicated. For that reason, we now refuse to participate in our reserve duties, and we support all those who resist being called to service,” the soldiers wrote in a petition posted online and first reported by the newspaper.

While some Israelis have refused to serve in the Palestinian territories of the West Bank, the military’s structure is such that serving in any capacity forces one to play a role in the conflict, said the soldiers, most of whom are women who would have been exempted from combat.

“Many of us served in logistical and bureaucratic support roles; there, we found that the entire military helps implement the oppression of the Palestinians,” they said.

Their comments come as the conflict in Gaza continues to escalate, displacing thousands more Palestinians in the battered territory even as the United States presses both sides for an immediate ceasefire and longer-term peace plan.

Earlier this month, Israel said it was mobilizing more reservists in anticipation of increased fighting.

In the petition, the soldiers pointed to the army’s structure and fundamental role in Israeli society as reasons for being unable to decouple any form of service from the fighting.

“The military plays a central role in every action plan and proposal discussed in the national conversation, which explains the absence of any real argument about non-military solutions to the conflicts Israel has been locked in with its neighbors,” the soldiers wrote.

“To us, the current military operation and the way militarization affects Israeli society are inseparable.”

They said they opposed the Israeli Army and conscription law because of how women are limited to low-ranking secretarial positions and because of a screening system that discriminates against Jews whose families originate from Arab nations.

Most 18-year-olds must serve up to three years in the Israeli Defense Forces.

Some groups, such as ultra-Orthodox Jewish seminary students, had been exempted from service, but legislators this year moved to lift that exemption on such students starting in 2017.

Arab-Israelis are exempt from compulsory service.

Now THESE are brave soldiers. These are soldiers Sivan should be proud of.

SivanMerili

Anti war?
No.. Anti-Zionists.
Anti zionist = anti israelis.

Youre not supporting gaza.
Youre supporting the exact ideology we fight against.

Thank you for puting things in order.

SivanMerili

badbrains said:

You know what the problem is for the Zionists are? The Palestinians ARENT afraid to die. And sorry to say it, you guys are. Can't win a fight when one sides NOT afraid to die and has nothing to live for anymore. That's why this will never end.

Byrnzie

The deliberate shooting of civilians = a war crime. http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/horrifying-continue-massacre.html

Will be interesting to see what all of the major human rights organizations come up with after they investigate this massacre.

Byrnzie

The IDF are so brave. Shooting unarmed civilians in cold blood. What heroes!

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/horrifying-continue-massacre.html

Horrifying details continue to emerge of massacre in Khuza’a
Philip Weiss and Adam Horowitz on July 24, 2014


'...This account is consistent with social media. The most complete comes from Khuza’a resident Mahmoud Ismail who tweeted out updates from the village. They were translated by Mohammad Alsaafin who retweeted them. The updates read:

'Account: My family & I made it out, light injuries. Hundreds of casualties, bodies in the streets. Many of the dead in Khuza’a bled to death bc ambulances unable to reach. From my window I watched a 20 yr old die for hours. One doctor, Kamal Abu Rjeila, treated injuries that came into his clinic even after it was bombed & his father killed. The Israeli army used ten families as human shields. They took over their homes and wouldn’t let them escape.Home I was sheltering in with 50 others was bombed. I don’t know what happened to them but my shoes soaked in their blood. We escaped to our home under the cover of the dust from the bombing. Minutes later, it was hit by 3 artillery shells. We tried to escape on foot to Khuzaa’s exit, but helicopters fired on us. I saw a woman carrying her dead child in one arm and a white flag in the other. She used the white flag to wrap his body. As we walked I saw my uncle and his son, dead on the road next to their house. Snipers were hitting people in the legs. My other cousin died trying to save his bleeding brother in the street. They died on top of each other. There are corpses still lying in the streets, injured people waiting to become corpses, families who still haven’t escaped.'

badbrains

Byrnzie said:

The deliberate shooting of civilians = a war crime. http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/horrifying-continue-massacre.html

Will be interesting to see what all of the major human rights organizations come up with after they investigate this massacre.

A bunch of fancy words with nothing getting done because my so called country that fights for people's freedom will veto anything put in front of them. When will America have it's "American spring?" And I believe congress leaves for vacation today for 5 weeks???? Perfect timing Israel. You guys must be in cahoots together. Oh wait, you are....