America's Gun Violence

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Thought the same thing.
    i like how a radical Muslim exterminate terorrist group is linked to Trump somehow.
    Yeah, that is...interesting 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited August 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Thought the same thing.
    i like how a radical Muslim exterminate terorrist group is linked to Trump somehow.
    Yeah, that is...interesting 
    What's "...interesting" about it in your view? I just assumed that Halifax misspoke or didn't even realize they're Muslim maybe, or forgot or something. What deeper message are you getting out of it?
    I agree it's unlikely they voted Trump... I'd be surprised if they voted at all even if they are legal (I'm still not clear about whether they were illegal or not). These people are fucking insane, psychopathic criminals who kept starving children prisoners in an underground cave and preparing for a holy war, so who cares who they voted for? If they did vote, I'm sure their reasons for voting for whoever weren't terribly rational.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Thought the same thing.
    i like how a radical Muslim exterminate terorrist group is linked to Trump somehow.
    Yeah, that is...interesting 
    What's "...interesting" about it in your view? I just assumed that Halifax misspoke or didn't even realize they're Muslim maybe, or forgot or something. What deeper message are you getting out of it?
    I agree it's unlikely they voted Trump... I'd be surprised if they voted at all even if they are legal (I'm still not clear about whether they were illegal or not). These people are fucking insane, psychopathic criminals who kept starving children prisoners in an underground cave and preparing for a holy war, so who cares who they voted for? If they did vote, I'm sure their reasons for voting for whoever weren't terribly rational.
    No deeper message, just interesting that the assumptions were made without
    a bit of reading.  I don’t really care who the dumbasses voted for either.
    I am not the person that brought it up.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,181
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Thought the same thing.
    i like how a radical Muslim exterminate terorrist group is linked to Trump somehow.
    Yeah, that is...interesting 
    What's "...interesting" about it in your view? I just assumed that Halifax misspoke or didn't even realize they're Muslim maybe, or forgot or something. What deeper message are you getting out of it?
    I agree it's unlikely they voted Trump... I'd be surprised if they voted at all even if they are legal (I'm still not clear about whether they were illegal or not). These people are fucking insane, psychopathic criminals who kept starving children prisoners in an underground cave and preparing for a holy war, so who cares who they voted for? If they did vote, I'm sure their reasons for voting for whoever weren't terribly rational.
    No deeper message, just interesting that the assumptions were made without
    a bit of reading.  I don’t really care who the dumbasses voted for either.
    I am not the person that brought it up.
    I heard it on the liberal conspiracy theorist’s radio broadcast. Didn’t you?
     
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Thought the same thing.
    i like how a radical Muslim exterminate terorrist group is linked to Trump somehow.
    Yeah, that is...interesting 
    What's "...interesting" about it in your view? I just assumed that Halifax misspoke or didn't even realize they're Muslim maybe, or forgot or something. What deeper message are you getting out of it?
    I agree it's unlikely they voted Trump... I'd be surprised if they voted at all even if they are legal (I'm still not clear about whether they were illegal or not). These people are fucking insane, psychopathic criminals who kept starving children prisoners in an underground cave and preparing for a holy war, so who cares who they voted for? If they did vote, I'm sure their reasons for voting for whoever weren't terribly rational.
    No deeper message, just interesting that the assumptions were made without
    a bit of reading.  I don’t really care who the dumbasses voted for either.
    I am not the person that brought it up.
    I heard it on the liberal conspiracy theorist’s radio broadcast. Didn’t you?
     
    Lol, obviously 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,181
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Thought the same thing.
    i like how a radical Muslim exterminate terorrist group is linked to Trump somehow.
    Yeah, that is...interesting 
    What's "...interesting" about it in your view? I just assumed that Halifax misspoke or didn't even realize they're Muslim maybe, or forgot or something. What deeper message are you getting out of it?
    I agree it's unlikely they voted Trump... I'd be surprised if they voted at all even if they are legal (I'm still not clear about whether they were illegal or not). These people are fucking insane, psychopathic criminals who kept starving children prisoners in an underground cave and preparing for a holy war, so who cares who they voted for? If they did vote, I'm sure their reasons for voting for whoever weren't terribly rational.
    No deeper message, just interesting that the assumptions were made without
    a bit of reading.  I don’t really care who the dumbasses voted for either.
    I am not the person that brought it up.
    I heard it on the liberal conspiracy theorist’s radio broadcast. Didn’t you?
     
    Lol, obviously 
    I thought I was the only one! Good to know others know too!
     
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,181
    Just another “responsible” gun owner in ‘Murica.

    Police arrest 13-year-old boy in fatal shooting of boy, 14 - ABC News https://apple.news/Agvg6Zn1WT6emAKBNZmehrQ
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    Just another “responsible” gun owner in ‘Murica.

    Police arrest 13-year-old boy in fatal shooting of boy, 14 - ABC News https://apple.news/Agvg6Zn1WT6emAKBNZmehrQ
    How could you call them responsible if they can’t even legally own a firearm?  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,181
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner in ‘Murica.

    Police arrest 13-year-old boy in fatal shooting of boy, 14 - ABC News https://apple.news/Agvg6Zn1WT6emAKBNZmehrQ
    How could you call them responsible if they can’t even legally own a firearm?  
    A “responsible” gun owner was “responsible” somewhere along the way until they weren’t.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner in ‘Murica.

    Police arrest 13-year-old boy in fatal shooting of boy, 14 - ABC News https://apple.news/Agvg6Zn1WT6emAKBNZmehrQ
    How could you call them responsible if they can’t even legally own a firearm?  
    A “responsible” gun owner was “responsible” somewhere along the way until they weren’t.
    Perhaps it was stolen?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,181
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner in ‘Murica.

    Police arrest 13-year-old boy in fatal shooting of boy, 14 - ABC News https://apple.news/Agvg6Zn1WT6emAKBNZmehrQ
    How could you call them responsible if they can’t even legally own a firearm?  
    A “responsible” gun owner was “responsible” somewhere along the way until they weren’t.
    Perhaps it was stolen?
    Guess it wasn’t secured properly? Perhaps.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    edited August 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner in ‘Murica.

    Police arrest 13-year-old boy in fatal shooting of boy, 14 - ABC News https://apple.news/Agvg6Zn1WT6emAKBNZmehrQ
    How could you call them responsible if they can’t even legally own a firearm?  
    A “responsible” gun owner was “responsible” somewhere along the way until they weren’t.
    Perhaps it was stolen?
    Guess it wasn’t secured properly? Perhaps.
    So Mr. Halifax if someone breaks into my house and steals my firearms you feel I am perhaps a tad irresponsible and partly to blame?
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,181
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner in ‘Murica.

    Police arrest 13-year-old boy in fatal shooting of boy, 14 - ABC News https://apple.news/Agvg6Zn1WT6emAKBNZmehrQ
    How could you call them responsible if they can’t even legally own a firearm?  
    A “responsible” gun owner was “responsible” somewhere along the way until they weren’t.
    Perhaps it was stolen?
    Guess it wasn’t secured properly? Perhaps.
    So Mr. Halifax if someone breaks into my house and steals my firearms you feel I am perhaps a tad irresponsible and partly to blame?
    If you didn’t properly secure them, yes.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner in ‘Murica.

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    How could you call them responsible if they can’t even legally own a firearm?  
    A “responsible” gun owner was “responsible” somewhere along the way until they weren’t.
    Perhaps it was stolen?
    Guess it wasn’t secured properly? Perhaps.
    So Mr. Halifax if someone breaks into my house and steals my firearms you feel I am perhaps a tad irresponsible and partly to blame?
    I’d you didn’t have them in a locked gun safe, yes. 

    How many people who claim that guns were mysteriously stolen actually had them appropriately stored? Likely very few. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
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    Wait, the two of you are proclaiming that if someone breaks into my house illegally and takes them illegally I am partly to blame if those stolen firearms aren’t in a safe?  
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    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    tbergs Posts: 10,404
    mcgruff10 said:
    Wait, the two of you are proclaiming that if someone breaks into my house illegally and takes them illegally I am partly to blame if those stolen firearms aren’t in a safe?  
    Yeah, like when you leave your wallet on the table, or your keys in the car; your fault :wink: Especially if your door was unlocked...
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,181
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Wait, the two of you are proclaiming that if someone breaks into my house illegally and takes them illegally I am partly to blame if those stolen firearms aren’t in a safe?  
    Yup. Either safe or secured.
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Wait, the two of you are proclaiming that if someone breaks into my house illegally and takes them illegally I am partly to blame if those stolen firearms aren’t in a safe?  
    Yes, of course. Any gun owner has a responsibility to take particular care with it. Are you actually claiming that’s not the case? It’s a lethal weapon with a decent street value, after all. Any doofus knows a gun would be a target in a burglary. 

    If guns are left unsecured and are stolen then the person who didn’t secure them is partially responsible. It’s analogous to the situation where, if someone had confidential medical or financial information and they left it unsecured and it was stolen, they would be sanctioned.  
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Wait, the two of you are proclaiming that if someone breaks into my house illegally and takes them illegally I am partly to blame if those stolen firearms aren’t in a safe?  
    Yes, of course. Any gun owner has a responsibility to take particular care with it. Are you actually claiming that’s not the case? It’s a lethal weapon with a decent street value, after all. Any doofus knows a gun would be a target in a burglary. 

    If guns are left unsecured and are stolen then the person who didn’t secure them is partially responsible. It’s analogous to the situation where, if someone had confidential medical or financial information and they left it unsecured and it was stolen, they would be sanctioned.  
    Crazy right? Expecting “responsible” gun owners to be responsible.
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  • my2hands
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Wait, the two of you are proclaiming that if someone breaks into my house illegally and takes them illegally I am partly to blame if those stolen firearms aren’t in a safe?  
    Yes, of course. Any gun owner has a responsibility to take particular care with it. Are you actually claiming that’s not the case? It’s a lethal weapon with a decent street value, after all. Any doofus knows a gun would be a target in a burglary. 

    If guns are left unsecured and are stolen then the person who didn’t secure them is partially responsible. It’s analogous to the situation where, if someone had confidential medical or financial information and they left it unsecured and it was stolen, they would be sanctioned.  
    Interesting analogy, might have to borrow that one
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