America's Gun Violence
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mace1229 said:oftenreading said:mace1229 said:oftenreading said:PJPOWER said:HesCalledDyer said:It's sad the the United States hasn't moved past the wild west.
Exhibit B - your country still has public executions.
B: No we don’t.
https://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2001/apr/010430.execution.html
B. Public in the sense that a fairly large number of people not related to the mechanics of the execution are allowed to attend. Timothy McVeigh’s execution had 300 people in attendance. They include relatives, the victim’s family, reporters, and others.
I could t find any data on the shootings in a short search, but I would surprised if most shootings were settling an argument in the sense that a dual did. I would agree that most murders the victim knows the attacker, and is likely the result of a disagreement. But usually only one party thinks to solve it with a gun, so not what I would consider a “duel” in any sense. Definitely not common, and certainly not most, shootings happen when both parties shoot each each other until one dies. And that’s what I think of when you relate it to a “wild west duel.”
Members of the public, i.e. not just those involved with the administration of the act, are permitted to attend. That means that people are there to observe who aren't directly involved in the legal process. The fact that it isn't open to everyone is irrelevant. However, this is a pretty small point to focus on - the fact that the US has state-administered executions at all is the atrocity.
And a lot of gang violence is essentially modern-day dueling, settling scores.
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oftenreading said:mace1229 said:oftenreading said:mace1229 said:oftenreading said:PJPOWER said:HesCalledDyer said:It's sad the the United States hasn't moved past the wild west.
Exhibit B - your country still has public executions.
B: No we don’t.
https://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2001/apr/010430.execution.html
B. Public in the sense that a fairly large number of people not related to the mechanics of the execution are allowed to attend. Timothy McVeigh’s execution had 300 people in attendance. They include relatives, the victim’s family, reporters, and others.
I could t find any data on the shootings in a short search, but I would surprised if most shootings were settling an argument in the sense that a dual did. I would agree that most murders the victim knows the attacker, and is likely the result of a disagreement. But usually only one party thinks to solve it with a gun, so not what I would consider a “duel” in any sense. Definitely not common, and certainly not most, shootings happen when both parties shoot each each other until one dies. And that’s what I think of when you relate it to a “wild west duel.”
Members of the public, i.e. not just those involved with the administration of the act, are permitted to attend. That means that people are there to observe who aren't directly involved in the legal process. The fact that it isn't open to everyone is irrelevant. However, this is a pretty small point to focus on - the fact that the US has state-administered executions at all is the atrocity.
And a lot of gang violence is essentially modern-day dueling, settling scores.
Now that you're backing down... atrocity according to who?
Some people view state administered executions as a very appropriate form of justice. What else should you do with someone who rapes and murders an infant... or kills multiple people in serial fashion?
The atrocities are actually the laughable sentences some people get for the most obscene offences one might imagine.
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Did you know Christopher Lee attended the last public execution in France?
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487my2hands said:Had a gang presentation from my local city police task force that deals with such things.... very knowledge folks....
A Cabelas opened in our area about 2 years ago... it is commonly referred to as "The Candy Store" by these folks because a large amount of guns being used in our local gun violence are being bought right at Cabelas... guys as young as 14 are shopping on their phones on the Cabelas website, pick a gun they want, and get a drug addict or someone else without a record willing to make quick cash to go make the straw purchase... they are taking orders on what they want and filling them.... next thing you know, it's used to murder a 17 year old
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Halifax2TheMax said:unsung said:PJPOWER said:tbergs said:PJPOWER said:Meltdown99 said:Violent weekend in Chicago as shootings leave at least 11 dead, 70 wounded
https://globalnews.ca/news/4372850/chicago-shootings-last-weekend-leave-at-least-11-dead-70-wounded/?utm_source=GlobalToronto&utm_medium=Facebook
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unsung said:my2hands said:Had a gang presentation from my local city police task force that deals with such things.... very knowledge folks....
A Cabelas opened in our area about 2 years ago... it is commonly referred to as "The Candy Store" by these folks because a large amount of guns being used in our local gun violence are being bought right at Cabelas... guys as young as 14 are shopping on their phones on the Cabelas website, pick a gun they want, and get a drug addict or someone else without a record willing to make quick cash to go make the straw purchase... they are taking orders on what they want and filling them.... next thing you know, it's used to murder a 17 year old
Beautiful country we've got.
Stop being stupid."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
unsung said:Halifax2TheMax said:unsung said:PJPOWER said:tbergs said:PJPOWER said:Meltdown99 said:Violent weekend in Chicago as shootings leave at least 11 dead, 70 wounded
https://globalnews.ca/news/4372850/chicago-shootings-last-weekend-leave-at-least-11-dead-70-wounded/?utm_source=GlobalToronto&utm_medium=Facebook
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/11/07/where-the-guns-used-in-chicago-actually-came-from/
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Spiritual_Chaos said:unsung said:my2hands said:Had a gang presentation from my local city police task force that deals with such things.... very knowledge folks....
A Cabelas opened in our area about 2 years ago... it is commonly referred to as "The Candy Store" by these folks because a large amount of guns being used in our local gun violence are being bought right at Cabelas... guys as young as 14 are shopping on their phones on the Cabelas website, pick a gun they want, and get a drug addict or someone else without a record willing to make quick cash to go make the straw purchase... they are taking orders on what they want and filling them.... next thing you know, it's used to murder a 17 year old
Beautiful country we've got.
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unsung said:Spiritual_Chaos said:unsung said:my2hands said:Had a gang presentation from my local city police task force that deals with such things.... very knowledge folks....
A Cabelas opened in our area about 2 years ago... it is commonly referred to as "The Candy Store" by these folks because a large amount of guns being used in our local gun violence are being bought right at Cabelas... guys as young as 14 are shopping on their phones on the Cabelas website, pick a gun they want, and get a drug addict or someone else without a record willing to make quick cash to go make the straw purchase... they are taking orders on what they want and filling them.... next thing you know, it's used to murder a 17 year old
Beautiful country we've got.
Stop being stupid.
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487I guess the obvious is no longer important.0
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Halifax2TheMax said:
Chicago doesn't have any gun stores so of course any that are purchased legally come from outside the city.
I guess this really just shows the failure of gun laws. Straw purchases are illegal.0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Chicago's problem has NOTHING to do with gun laws. Nothing.0
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unsung said:Chicago's problem has NOTHING to do with gun laws. Nothing.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487By violating an existing law. Why doesn’t your law work?
Maybe it is the evil person, no? Are people ever to blame? Maybe just if they were trumper voters, right?0 -
Good guy with gun stops bad guy:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/06/florida-armed-bystander-stops-gunman-at-crowded-back-to-school-event-at-park-police-say.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+foxnews/national+(Internal+-+US+Latest+-+Text)An armed bystander shot a man who opened fire at a Florida park filled with over 100 people -- including children -- for a Saturday back-to-school cookout, officials said.
The Titusville Police Department said in a news release the man was involved in a fistfight with another person at the Issac Campbell Park and left around 5:20 p.m. -- only to return with a gun minutes later and start shooting.
A bystander, who was lawfully licensed to carry a firearm, then shot the gunman.
“We are extremely grateful that nobody else was injured in this incident,” Deputy Chief Todd Hutchinson said in a statement. “This suspect opened fire at a crowded public park. This could have been so much worse.”
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unsung said:By violating an existing law. Why doesn’t your law work?
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Halifax2TheMax said:unsung said:Chicago's problem has NOTHING to do with gun laws. Nothing."My brain's a good brain!"0
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Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Halifax2TheMax said:unsung said:Chicago's problem has NOTHING to do with gun laws. Nothing.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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