America's Gun Violence

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited March 2018
    unsung said:
    They would do a better job than you, tough guy 

    You're a clown that only deligitimizes the pro-gun crowd and paints them in a bad light, do you even realize that? All you do is post bullshit pictures and memes you find on your social media echo chamber, because anytime you actually express your own thoughts or opinion on here you get easily destroyed. Every single time. 

    Pathetic
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    my2hands said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    my2hands said:
    I'm more then willing to compromise... my immediate position is simple... I think AR 15 and similar weapons should not be available to the public... I think there should be restrictions on capacity and certain forms of ammo... a short waiting period to allow thorough background checks with improved criteria & vetting... how about a mandatory safety class for first time gun buyers?  can people on the terrorist watch list still buy guns? if so, thats a no brainer 

    I think a reasonable and knowledgeable gun owner/advocate would agree with most of that

    While in the perfect world I would personally do the same with handguns, I realize that's not happening in my lifetim, and im interested in real progress, so im not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater... so feel free to keep shotguns, certain rifles, and handguns... go have fun at the range, go bag a deer, enjoy your hobby.... but please support some common sense changes, the country needs it desperately 
    The terrorist watch list and due process are a slippery slope. What restrictions would you put on ammo?

    What about the terrorist watch list bothers you? It seems to me if they have enough concern about you that you're not allowed on an airplane, you shouldn't be able to purchase a gun. 

    Everybody in this country has to be tested and licensed to drive a vehicle, it seems like common sense the same should apply to gun owners. I also have to register and insure my vehicle, which I also think would be reasonable for gun owners. 


    I just don't like the guilty until innocent part of the terrorist watch list that's all.
    I have no problem with tests and registration.  

    ya know what bud fuck it, i'm wrong...if you are on the terrorist watch list then you can't buy a firearm until you are cleared.  Why the hell did I disagree with you? lol.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,559
    It just feels great to not have any guns rifles or weapons in my house and I won’t even socialize with folks who are pro gun I’ve learned a lot about people who are pro gun from this thread , I don’t want anything to do with such folks ...
    We've attended 2 concerts together and had a great time.  You'd never, ever had known I was pro gun other than in this thread.

    Im pro gun but not a member of the NRA.
    My family considers me a liberal for my political views.
    I can go on and on how one thing has nothing to do with the other and for you to think I'm a bad person because of one belief now hurts me.
    Your not a bad person at all your a great guy in fact & fun to be around I should of stated it differently I apologize for that statement, I hope you can accept it ...this issue has gotten the best of me I’ll step out now ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    my2hands said:
    I'm willing to compromise too. Don't make any kind of AR or AK weapons available to the public AND MAKE every single gun owner take a 40 hour gun safety course that is mandatory every 5 or 8 years. And register every gun so that EVERY responsible gun owner can be held accountable for the actions of that gun. Including reporting it stolen asap.
    I think that's reasonable
    The main argument I've heard against register guns is that "the government will know how many guns I have at any given time so that mean is they can come and take them." How many times has the government taken your car? I'd say never, unless it was used in a crime. Which is a perfectly good reason for it to be taken from you. Same thing with a gun. It doesn't matter if it's stolen, if it's used in a crime, you lose it. Not getting your weapons stolen is part of being a responsible gun owner. 
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,454
    the canadian government tried to create a long gun registery. spent millions on it until they eventually abandoned it. it was a clusterfuck, and was highly opposed. now, don't ask me why, cause I don't know. pj soul or oftenreading or thirty bills might. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    Have you never seen Red Dawn? The Russians knew who had guns because of the registration, so they confiscated them and threw them all into prison for it!
    WOLVERINES!
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    mace1229 said:
    Have you never seen Red Dawn? The Russians knew who had guns because of the registration, so they confiscated them and threw them all into prison for it!
    WOLVERINES!
    No, they saw the inventory of the guys store and saw all the guns were gone without being paid for. So they shot him for aiding gorillas. 

    I love that movie.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    mace1229 said:
    Have you never seen Red Dawn? The Russians knew who had guns because of the registration, so they confiscated them and threw them all into prison for it!
    WOLVERINES!
    No, they saw the inventory of the guys store and saw all the guns were gone without being paid for. So they shot him for aiding gorillas. 

    I love that movie.
    whoops, its been a while I guess.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited March 2018
    My father turned into a gun nut late in life.. I'm pretty sure the original Red Dawn was 90% responsible for that.  
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    mrussel1 said:
    My father turned into a gun nut late in life.. I'm pretty sure the original Red Dawn was 90% responsible for that.  
    Was he a Vietnam  vet?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    My father turned into a gun nut late in life.. I'm pretty sure the original Red Dawn was 90% responsible for that.  
    Was he a Vietnam  vet?
    Korea
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    My father turned into a gun nut late in life.. I'm pretty sure the original Red Dawn was 90% responsible for that.  
    Was he a Vietnam  vet?
    Korea
    Got ya. Is your father Still alive?  Man I could hear those vets talk for hours. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,400
    my2hands said:
    I'm willing to compromise too. Don't make any kind of AR or AK weapons available to the public AND MAKE every single gun owner take a 40 hour gun safety course that is mandatory every 5 or 8 years. And register every gun so that EVERY responsible gun owner can be held accountable for the actions of that gun. Including reporting it stolen asap.
    I think that's reasonable
    The main argument I've heard against register guns is that "the government will know how many guns I have at any given time so that mean is they can come and take them." How many times has the government taken your car? I'd say never, unless it was used in a crime. Which is a perfectly good reason for it to be taken from you. Same thing with a gun. It doesn't matter if it's stolen, if it's used in a crime, you lose it. Not getting your weapons stolen is part of being a responsible gun owner. 
    The whole govt. knowing how many guns you have and coming to take them away is based wholly on fear and paranoia. Sad!

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    My father turned into a gun nut late in life.. I'm pretty sure the original Red Dawn was 90% responsible for that.  
    Was he a Vietnam  vet?
    Korea
    Got ya. Is your father Still alive?  Man I could hear those vets talk for hours. 
    no, he died in '93.  I was pretty young, only 20.  However his funeral was fascinating (as it could be) on one front.  My two uncles fought in WWII.  One was an island hopper marine and the other was captured at the Battle of the Bulge.  And then the old man across the street fought in the Polish Resistance.  They spent the entire afternoon arguing about who had it worse in the war.  
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    My father turned into a gun nut late in life.. I'm pretty sure the original Red Dawn was 90% responsible for that.  
    Was he a Vietnam  vet?
    Korea
    Got ya. Is your father Still alive?  Man I could hear those vets talk for hours. 
    no, he died in '93.  I was pretty young, only 20.  However his funeral was fascinating (as it could be) on one front.  My two uncles fought in WWII.  One was an island hopper marine and the other was captured at the Battle of the Bulge.  And then the old man across the street fought in the Polish Resistance.  They spent the entire afternoon arguing about who had it worse in the war.  
    Man to hear the three of them talk would have been amazing. I d say the island hopper had it the worst then the polish resistance fighter in a very close second. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    My father turned into a gun nut late in life.. I'm pretty sure the original Red Dawn was 90% responsible for that.  
    Was he a Vietnam  vet?
    Korea
    Got ya. Is your father Still alive?  Man I could hear those vets talk for hours. 
    no, he died in '93.  I was pretty young, only 20.  However his funeral was fascinating (as it could be) on one front.  My two uncles fought in WWII.  One was an island hopper marine and the other was captured at the Battle of the Bulge.  And then the old man across the street fought in the Polish Resistance.  They spent the entire afternoon arguing about who had it worse in the war.  
    Man to hear the three of them talk would have been amazing. I d say the island hopper had it the worst then the polish resistance fighter in a very close second. 
    Yeah he was Tarawa, amongst other places.  But my Uncle Mike was in a stalag for 7 months and almost froze to death.  He was in the 99th Infantry and was overrun at the very beginning of the battle, first night I think.  They all had compelling arguments!  
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,400
    Guns don't  kill people

    The children of gun owners kill each other

    Video console death: US boy, 9, 'kills sister, 13, over controller' 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,454
    Guns don't  kill people

    The children of gun owners kill each other

    Video console death: US boy, 9, 'kills sister, 13, over controller' 
    "It is also unclear what consequences the nine-year-old will face."

    you've GOT to be kidding me. The 9 year old? Jesus Christ. how about the shitty fucking parent?
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Guns don't  kill people

    The children of gun owners kill each other

    Video console death: US boy, 9, 'kills sister, 13, over controller' 
    "It is also unclear what consequences the nine-year-old will face."

    you've GOT to be kidding me. The 9 year old? Jesus Christ. how about the shitty fucking parent?
    It appears they have a lot of children.

    The children's mother was in another room, feeding other children lunch at the time of the incident.

    Lots of children and accessible guns.  What could go wrong?

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