America's Gun Violence

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 19,727
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    How was he an irresponsible gun owner?
    I’ll answer with a question, how was he a “responsible” gun owner?
    Did he break any firearm laws?
    You’re okay with someone stockpiling multiple firearms and thousands of rounds of ammo and making online threats to legally protected service providers and law enforcement while praising two of the biggest douchey domestic terrorists? Really? You’re okay with that? You’d sell to him if you were aware of his postings, wouldn’t you? Ahhhh, but he’s “responsible.” Until he’s not. Gun CULTcha’s affecting your ability to rationalize. Renewing your NRA membership? Out of convenience? And to answer your question, I don’t know. Maybe? Maybe not? Time might tell but I wouldn’t leave him with his arsenal while we try to determine that.
    Like I said, he made an online threat but did nothing with the firearms. You usuall have strong articles but this one seems weak. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 19,727
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    How was he an irresponsible gun owner?
    I’ll answer with a question, how was he a “responsible” gun owner?
    Did he break any firearm laws?
    He  allegedly broke a law and had means to carry out the threat.  The arrest,  felony charge and leaky subsequent inability to own a firearm legally in the future seems appropriate 
    But did he break any firearms laws according to the article?

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 13,513
    edited August 14
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    How was he an irresponsible gun owner?
    I’ll answer with a question, how was he a “responsible” gun owner?
    Did he break any firearm laws?
    He  allegedly broke a law and had means to carry out the threat.  The arrest,  felony charge and leaky subsequent inability to own a firearm legally in the future seems appropriate 
    But did he break any firearms laws according to the article?

    I think H2Ms point on irresponsible owner,  is that it is irresponsible to make those types of threats online,  particularly when you are sitting on that type of weaponry.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 13,513
    Expressed in H2Ms singularly unique style of writing. 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 19,727
    mrussel1 said:
    Expressed in H2Ms singularly unique style of writing. 
    Oh it is unique alright!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • RenfieldRenfield NYC NYPosts: 396
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    How was he an irresponsible gun owner?
    I’ll answer with a question, how was he a “responsible” gun owner?
    Did he break any firearm laws?
    He  allegedly broke a law and had means to carry out the threat.  The arrest,  felony charge and leaky subsequent inability to own a firearm legally in the future seems appropriate 
    But did he break any firearms laws according to the article?

    I think H2Ms point on irresponsible owner,  is that it is irresponsible to make those types of threats online,  particularly when you are sitting on that type of weaponry.  
    God help us (says the atheist) if this guy falls under the profile of a responsible gun owner. If that is the case, civilians owning guns should be banned.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 15,556
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    How was he an irresponsible gun owner?
    "ArmyOfChrist discussed supporting mass shootings, and assault and/or targeting of Planned Parenthood," according to Tsarnas.
    The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...
  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 13,972
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Expressed in H2Ms singularly unique style of writing. 
    Oh it is unique alright!!


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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 19,648
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    vaggar99 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    vaggar99 said:

    Background check on voters? What does that actually mean? 
    Also,  you can't hire someone without immigration check legally.  So.. you know.. that's bull. 
    posted on FB by one of my best friend's mother.  Left me flabbergasted.  
    The only people against background checks, besides the gun manufacturers, are crazies who think the Deep State will use it to take away their guns.  
    I do believe they would someday and I know California did it in the 90's.
    When did CA confiscate legal firearms from owners on the 90s? Did they have felonies? Were the guns illegal? What were the circumstances?
    You had to "re-register" the guns.  The state made an example out of some people.  One was a cop.  
    Okay but why were guns confiscated?
    The guns were confiscated because they were never re-registered.  You were supposed to re register everything under the new California law.  They had people on file already and decided to make an example out of them so they arrested them and confiscated the firearms.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 19,648
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,879
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 19,648
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,879
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 19,648
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,879
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
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  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 13,972
    edited August 14
    Up in my neck of the woods, a day care center staff member found a loaded pistol in one of their kids' diaper bags last week. The gun belonged to the child's father (https://patch.com/massachusetts/peabody/loaded-gun-found-peabody-daycare-police), who "could" face charges.

    I would shake my head if it surprised me at all, but just this past school year, a student in my son's kindergarten class told the teacher that he was going to bring his dad's gun to school and shoot her, which of course prompted a lockdown and all the anxiety that comes with that. I know the dad. He's got one of those all-too-fashionable Hitler haircuts. I'm guessing he and his perpetually pregnant wife had a good chuckle over junior's trouble at school over the dinner table that night without a single visit from local law enforcement. I don't know. I guess these dads just can't wait to show their toxic little bastards their guns and tell them how they can be utilized to get rid of annoying teachers and whatnot.
    Post edited by dankind on
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 19,648
    edited August 14
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    Post edited by tempo_n_groove on
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 13,513
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 19,648
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,879
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 19,727
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     

    responsible gun owner? from what I have read, yes.


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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 19,648
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 13,513
    edited August 14
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    He's a gun owner and he's irresponsible.. We're arguing semantics on what the adjective is modifying. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,879
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    He's a gun owner and he's irresponsible.. We're arguing semantics on what the adjective is modifying. 
    The lengths the “responsible” gun owners will go.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 19,648
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    He's a gun owner and he's irresponsible.. We're arguing semantics on what the adjective is modifying. 
    Well he must be an irresponsible driver too since he owns a car...

    It's not semantics.  He didn't do shit with his guns.  

    Again he may not be a good person but he didn't break any laws that I can see with his firearms.

    You may not like him or find him scary but that doesn't make him a gun toting criminal.

  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 19,727
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    He's a gun owner and he's irresponsible.. We're arguing semantics on what the adjective is modifying. 
    Well he must be an irresponsible driver too since he owns a car...

    It's not semantics.  He didn't do shit with his guns.  

    Again he may not be a good person but he didn't break any laws that I can see with his firearms.

    You may not like him or find him scary but that doesn't make him a gun toting criminal.

    Agreed.  Now if he is found guilty of the charges should he continue to be able to own firearms?  My answer would be no.  
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,879
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    Gee, I don’t know? Has he had his license suspended? Or post about how he was going to drive his legally modified Hummer with the cattle catcher grill down the sidewalk during the 4th of July parade or drive it through the entrance of a planned Parenthood on abortion day?
     
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 19,648
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    Gee, I don’t know? Has he had his license suspended? Or post about how he was going to drive his legally modified Hummer with the cattle catcher grill down the sidewalk during the 4th of July parade or drive it through the entrance of a planned Parenthood on abortion day?
     
    Did he say he was going to gun down people?  The article doesn't site that either so he is a responsible gun owner...

    Now if you want to assume something then that is also different altogether...
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 19,648
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    He's a gun owner and he's irresponsible.. We're arguing semantics on what the adjective is modifying. 
    Well he must be an irresponsible driver too since he owns a car...

    It's not semantics.  He didn't do shit with his guns.  

    Again he may not be a good person but he didn't break any laws that I can see with his firearms.

    You may not like him or find him scary but that doesn't make him a gun toting criminal.

    Agreed.  Now if he is found guilty of the charges should he continue to be able to own firearms?  My answer would be no.  
    He'd be a felon so of course "No"
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,879
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    Gee, I don’t know? Has he had his license suspended? Or post about how he was going to drive his legally modified Hummer with the cattle catcher grill down the sidewalk during the 4th of July parade or drive it through the entrance of a planned Parenthood on abortion day?
     
    Did he say he was going to gun down people?  The article doesn't site that either so he is a responsible gun owner...

    Now if you want to assume something then that is also different altogether...
    He threatened the lives of federal law enforcement officers, spoke approvingly of mass shootings and sung the praises of two shit bag domestic terrorists. Threatening to “gun down people” is the crossed
    line? Or is it to wait and see?
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