America's Gun Violence

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    It just feels great to not have any guns rifles or weapons in my house and I won’t even socialize with folks who are pro gun I’ve learned a lot about people who are pro gun from this thread , I don’t want anything to do with such folks ...
    We've attended 2 concerts together and had a great time.  You'd never, ever had known I was pro gun other than in this thread.

    Im pro gun but not a member of the NRA.
    My family considers me a liberal for my political views.
    I can go on and on how one thing has nothing to do with the other and for you to think I'm a bad person because of one belief now hurts me.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Tempo seems like a good dude... with a killer sock collection!!! 

    Even though he's wrong on the gun issue :)
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    my2hands said:
    Tempo seems like a good dude... with a killer sock collection!!! 

    Even though he's wrong on the gun issue :)
    I accept that olive branch and offer you a dove in return.
     =) 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    my2hands said:
    Tempo seems like a good dude... with a killer sock collection!!! 

    Even though he's wrong on the gun issue :)
    I accept that olive branch and offer you a dove in return.
     =) 
    You guys need to borrow my credit card to get a room? ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    I'm more then willing to compromise... my immediate position is simple... I think AR 15 and similar weapons should not be available to the public... I think there should be restrictions on capacity and certain forms of ammo... a short waiting period to allow thorough background checks with improved criteria & vetting... how about a mandatory safety class for first time gun buyers?  can people on the terrorist watch list still buy guns? if so, thats a no brainer 

    I think a reasonable and knowledgeable gun owner/advocate would agree with most of that

    While in the perfect world I would personally do the same with handguns, I realize that's not happening in my lifetim, and im interested in real progress, so im not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater... so feel free to keep shotguns, certain rifles, and handguns... go have fun at the range, go bag a deer, enjoy your hobby.... but please support some common sense changes, the country needs it desperately 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    my2hands said:
    I'm more then willing to compromise... my immediate position is simple... I think AR 15 and similar weapons should not be available to the public... I think there should be restrictions on capacity and certain forms of ammo... a short waiting period to allow thorough background checks with improved criteria & vetting... how about a mandatory safety class for first time gun buyers?  can people on the terrorist watch list still buy guns? if so, thats a no brainer 

    I think a reasonable and knowledgeable gun owner/advocate would agree with most of that

    While in the perfect world I would personally do the same with handguns, I realize that's not happening in my lifetim, and im interested in real progress, so im not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater... so feel free to keep shotguns, certain rifles, and handguns... go have fun at the range, go bag a deer, enjoy your hobby.... but please support some common sense changes, the country needs it desperately 
    The terrorist watch list and due process are a slippery slope. What restrictions would you put on ammo?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,292
    You are down right fucking pathetic. Completely and utterly pathetic.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,052
    unsung said:
    Wow, they’re legislators too? Did that take you all day to create or find it on the web?
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Trolling. Not worth a response.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Trolling. Not worth a response.

    I'd actually prepared a reasonable one. I deleted it.

    I've always supported his alternative point of view and stressed how valuable it was to these threads; but I can't honestly say that's the case right now.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,292
    edited March 2018
    The sad part is that he isn’t trolling, trolls are self aware by definition. Unsung shows no signs of self awareness of his lunacy in the way that past trolls like JC, PJfan and Godfather have. Those people admitted several times to poking the liberal bear that this forum tends to be. Unsung sees himself as being some sort of champion of balance by posting his true, often asinine, views. 
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    I'm willing to compromise too. Don't make any kind of AR or AK weapons available to the public AND MAKE every single gun owner take a 40 hour gun safety course that is mandatory every 5 or 8 years. And register every gun so that EVERY responsible gun owner can be held accountable for the actions of that gun. Including reporting it stolen asap.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,052
    Smellyman said:
    Whole lotta “responsible” gun owners right there, boyz and gurlz. Maybe they’re legislators too?
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  • The dude staring down the barrel of his rifle always blows me away. The fat guy firing off multiple rounds always cracks me up.

    I kind of like the unsuspecting people that hold the hand guns with a limp wrist only to have it kick back into their forehead or nose.

    Geniuses.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    edited March 2018
    The dude staring down the barrel of his rifle always blows me away. The fat guy firing off multiple rounds always cracks me up.

    I kind of like the unsuspecting people that hold the hand guns with a limp wrist only to have it kick back into their forehead or nose.

    Geniuses.
    Those are funny, but scary as hell to watch. Bones are broken so easily when those things fly back into their faces. I always think their finger will get caught on the trigger and they'll shoot themselves in the face.

    I'm pretty sure I remember watching a video where a genius looks down the barrel,of a gun and it fires. Taking the guys hat off. I think that is what you're referring to 30. Right?

    https://youtu.be/Za2ezCNvBeU
    Post edited by Degeneratefk on
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    It's amazing how this woman needed only a handgun and not an AK-47 Or AR-15 to protect herself from 3 burglars. I suppose if they had bazookas, an ak would be appropriate. But I'm still guessing the handgun would still stop them. 

    https://youtu.be/thVhVjn59mg
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mcgruff10 said:
    my2hands said:
    I'm more then willing to compromise... my immediate position is simple... I think AR 15 and similar weapons should not be available to the public... I think there should be restrictions on capacity and certain forms of ammo... a short waiting period to allow thorough background checks with improved criteria & vetting... how about a mandatory safety class for first time gun buyers?  can people on the terrorist watch list still buy guns? if so, thats a no brainer 

    I think a reasonable and knowledgeable gun owner/advocate would agree with most of that

    While in the perfect world I would personally do the same with handguns, I realize that's not happening in my lifetim, and im interested in real progress, so im not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater... so feel free to keep shotguns, certain rifles, and handguns... go have fun at the range, go bag a deer, enjoy your hobby.... but please support some common sense changes, the country needs it desperately 
    The terrorist watch list and due process are a slippery slope. What restrictions would you put on ammo?

    What about the terrorist watch list bothers you? It seems to me if they have enough concern about you that you're not allowed on an airplane, you shouldn't be able to purchase a gun. 

    Everybody in this country has to be tested and licensed to drive a vehicle, it seems like common sense the same should apply to gun owners. I also have to register and insure my vehicle, which I also think would be reasonable for gun owners. 


  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    I'm willing to compromise too. Don't make any kind of AR or AK weapons available to the public AND MAKE every single gun owner take a 40 hour gun safety course that is mandatory every 5 or 8 years. And register every gun so that EVERY responsible gun owner can be held accountable for the actions of that gun. Including reporting it stolen asap.
    I think that's reasonable
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