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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    How about we try disarming gangs? Whattaya all say??!!??
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    unsung said:
    How about we try disarming gangs? Whattaya all say??!!??
    How about not selling guns to straw purchasers?
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  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    unsung said:
    How about we try disarming gangs? Whattaya all say??!!??

    A good idea.

    But remember... your country has so many guns in circulation right now... it would be really easy for gang members to get more guns.

    Your country's best hope is to plan for a better future: enact gun laws that stand the chance of making the US safer in 10-20 years. You're f**ked for the time being. 
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    How about we try disarming gangs? Whattaya all say??!!??
    How about not selling guns to straw purchasers?
    Can I borrow your crystal ball?  
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    unsung said:
    How about we try disarming gangs? Whattaya all say??!!??

    A good idea.

    But remember... your country has so many guns in circulation right now... it would be really easy for gang members to get more guns.

    Your country's best hope is to plan for a better future: enact gun laws that stand the chance of making the US safer in 10-20 years. You're f**ked for the time being. 
    Punish those that have no respect for life, not the guy who follows the "rules".
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    How about we try disarming gangs? Whattaya all say??!!??
    How about not selling guns to straw purchasers?
    Can I borrow your crystal ball?  
    95% of guns used in Chicago gun violence were not purchased by the offender from the original seller. Can I borrow your denial?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    unsung said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    unsung said:
    How about we try disarming gangs? Whattaya all say??!!??

    A good idea.

    But remember... your country has so many guns in circulation right now... it would be really easy for gang members to get more guns.

    Your country's best hope is to plan for a better future: enact gun laws that stand the chance of making the US safer in 10-20 years. You're f**ked for the time being. 
    Punish those that have no respect for life, not the guy who follows the "rules".
    But I thought straw purchasers were doing something illegal?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    You said it.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,804
    mcgruff10 said:
    Good guy with gun stops bad guy:

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/06/florida-armed-bystander-stops-gunman-at-crowded-back-to-school-event-at-park-police-say.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+foxnews/national+(Internal+-+US+Latest+-+Text)

    An armed bystander shot a man who opened fire at a Florida park filled with over 100 people -- including children -- for a Saturday back-to-school cookout, officials said.

    The Titusville Police Department said in a news release the man was involved in a fistfight with another person at the Issac Campbell Park and left around 5:20 p.m. -- only to return with a gun minutes later and start shooting.

    A bystander, who was lawfully licensed to carry a firearm, then shot the gunman.

    “We are extremely grateful that nobody else was injured in this incident,” Deputy Chief Todd Hutchinson said in a statement. “This suspect opened fire at a crowded public park. This could have been so much worse.”



    I thought we didn't have duals anymore? More info on the events that led up to the shooting.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/07/bullets-flew-at-a-florida-peace-in-the-city-event-for-kids-an-armed-bystander-was-ready/
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    unsung said:
    How about we try disarming gangs? Whattaya all say??!!??
    Or the responsible gun owner hanging out the window of his hotel suite

    Your precious boom boom toys bring so much positive to our society, it's beautiful 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    Another “responsible” gun owner.

    https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2018/08/07/maine-man-playing-disc-golf-struck-by-neighbors-bullet
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    edited August 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,935
    unsung said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    unsung said:
    How about we try disarming gangs? Whattaya all say??!!??

    A good idea.

    But remember... your country has so many guns in circulation right now... it would be really easy for gang members to get more guns.

    Your country's best hope is to plan for a better future: enact gun laws that stand the chance of making the US safer in 10-20 years. You're f**ked for the time being. 
    Punish those that have no respect for life, not the guy who follows the "rules".
    that's reactive. the point is to be proactive. 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Yeah, maybe so, it just raises some alarms.  New Mexico is full of isolated “off grid” locations like this.  Kind of made me imagine someone just out there awaiting orders or something.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,359
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Thought the same thing.
    i like how a radical Muslim exterminate terorrist group is linked to Trump somehow.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Thought the same thing.
    i like how a radical Muslim exterminate terorrist group is linked to Trump somehow.
    Yeah, that is...interesting 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    edited August 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Thought the same thing.
    i like how a radical Muslim exterminate terorrist group is linked to Trump somehow.
    Yeah, that is...interesting 
    What's "...interesting" about it in your view? I just assumed that Halifax misspoke or didn't even realize they're Muslim maybe, or forgot or something. What deeper message are you getting out of it?
    I agree it's unlikely they voted Trump... I'd be surprised if they voted at all even if they are legal (I'm still not clear about whether they were illegal or not). These people are fucking insane, psychopathic criminals who kept starving children prisoners in an underground cave and preparing for a holy war, so who cares who they voted for? If they did vote, I'm sure their reasons for voting for whoever weren't terribly rational.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Thought the same thing.
    i like how a radical Muslim exterminate terorrist group is linked to Trump somehow.
    Yeah, that is...interesting 
    What's "...interesting" about it in your view? I just assumed that Halifax misspoke or didn't even realize they're Muslim maybe, or forgot or something. What deeper message are you getting out of it?
    I agree it's unlikely they voted Trump... I'd be surprised if they voted at all even if they are legal (I'm still not clear about whether they were illegal or not). These people are fucking insane, psychopathic criminals who kept starving children prisoners in an underground cave and preparing for a holy war, so who cares who they voted for? If they did vote, I'm sure their reasons for voting for whoever weren't terribly rational.
    No deeper message, just interesting that the assumptions were made without
    a bit of reading.  I don’t really care who the dumbasses voted for either.
    I am not the person that brought it up.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Thought the same thing.
    i like how a radical Muslim exterminate terorrist group is linked to Trump somehow.
    Yeah, that is...interesting 
    What's "...interesting" about it in your view? I just assumed that Halifax misspoke or didn't even realize they're Muslim maybe, or forgot or something. What deeper message are you getting out of it?
    I agree it's unlikely they voted Trump... I'd be surprised if they voted at all even if they are legal (I'm still not clear about whether they were illegal or not). These people are fucking insane, psychopathic criminals who kept starving children prisoners in an underground cave and preparing for a holy war, so who cares who they voted for? If they did vote, I'm sure their reasons for voting for whoever weren't terribly rational.
    No deeper message, just interesting that the assumptions were made without
    a bit of reading.  I don’t really care who the dumbasses voted for either.
    I am not the person that brought it up.
    I heard it on the liberal conspiracy theorist’s radio broadcast. Didn’t you?
     
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Thought the same thing.
    i like how a radical Muslim exterminate terorrist group is linked to Trump somehow.
    Yeah, that is...interesting 
    What's "...interesting" about it in your view? I just assumed that Halifax misspoke or didn't even realize they're Muslim maybe, or forgot or something. What deeper message are you getting out of it?
    I agree it's unlikely they voted Trump... I'd be surprised if they voted at all even if they are legal (I'm still not clear about whether they were illegal or not). These people are fucking insane, psychopathic criminals who kept starving children prisoners in an underground cave and preparing for a holy war, so who cares who they voted for? If they did vote, I'm sure their reasons for voting for whoever weren't terribly rational.
    No deeper message, just interesting that the assumptions were made without
    a bit of reading.  I don’t really care who the dumbasses voted for either.
    I am not the person that brought it up.
    I heard it on the liberal conspiracy theorist’s radio broadcast. Didn’t you?
     
    Lol, obviously 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Okay, this does actually scare the shit out of me.  This NM Compound story keeps getting more frightening:
    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-mexico-compound-man-training-kids-commit-school-shootings-prosecutors-court-documents-today-2018-08-08/
    I hope this was an isolated group and not something that has been planned/organized on a larger scale.
    Holy crap, what a crazy story. It kind of sounds like the authorities might have to pull their shit together a bit more on this one.
    It sounds like an isolated group. More organized ones aren't generally that disgusting and filthy, you know?
    Bet they voted for Team Trump Treason and Jan Brewer as well.
    Bet that you would lose that bet...
    Why? They can’t vote illegally in Arizona?
    Yeah, that’s the reason.  Took the words right out of my mouth...
    I am going to go out on a limb and say that Trump didn’t do a very good job obtaining support from the Muslim community...or did he?
    Edit: or are you talking about the authorities, you are pretty vague sometimes.

    Thought the same thing.
    i like how a radical Muslim exterminate terorrist group is linked to Trump somehow.
    Yeah, that is...interesting 
    What's "...interesting" about it in your view? I just assumed that Halifax misspoke or didn't even realize they're Muslim maybe, or forgot or something. What deeper message are you getting out of it?
    I agree it's unlikely they voted Trump... I'd be surprised if they voted at all even if they are legal (I'm still not clear about whether they were illegal or not). These people are fucking insane, psychopathic criminals who kept starving children prisoners in an underground cave and preparing for a holy war, so who cares who they voted for? If they did vote, I'm sure their reasons for voting for whoever weren't terribly rational.
    No deeper message, just interesting that the assumptions were made without
    a bit of reading.  I don’t really care who the dumbasses voted for either.
    I am not the person that brought it up.
    I heard it on the liberal conspiracy theorist’s radio broadcast. Didn’t you?
     
    Lol, obviously 
    I thought I was the only one! Good to know others know too!
     
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    Just another “responsible” gun owner in ‘Murica.

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,489
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner in ‘Murica.

    Police arrest 13-year-old boy in fatal shooting of boy, 14 - ABC News https://apple.news/Agvg6Zn1WT6emAKBNZmehrQ
    How could you call them responsible if they can’t even legally own a firearm?  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner in ‘Murica.

    Police arrest 13-year-old boy in fatal shooting of boy, 14 - ABC News https://apple.news/Agvg6Zn1WT6emAKBNZmehrQ
    How could you call them responsible if they can’t even legally own a firearm?  
    A “responsible” gun owner was “responsible” somewhere along the way until they weren’t.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,489
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner in ‘Murica.

    Police arrest 13-year-old boy in fatal shooting of boy, 14 - ABC News https://apple.news/Agvg6Zn1WT6emAKBNZmehrQ
    How could you call them responsible if they can’t even legally own a firearm?  
    A “responsible” gun owner was “responsible” somewhere along the way until they weren’t.
    Perhaps it was stolen?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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