America's Gun Violence

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    PJ_Soul said:
    That was quick. Washington State's Attorney General, Bob Ferguson, who is always happy to sue the tRUmp administration, just filed this suit yesterday. He's got a pretty good batting average against tRUmp.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    My guess is that anyone with the technical expertise to build a functional 3-D gun and wants to build one probably already has access to the designs through the dark web.  All this does is increase the chance of dimwits turning their hand into a Jason Pierre-Paul meatball claw when the thing blows up in their face.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    edited August 2018
    Jason P said:
    My guess is that anyone with the technical expertise to build a functional 3-D gun and wants to build one probably already has access to the designs through the dark web.  All this does is increase the chance of dimwits turning their hand into a Jason Pierre-Paul meatball claw when the thing blows up in their face.
    Do people need technical expertise for this?? I'm under the impression that they do not at all, and that's why the "blueprints" are so dangerous. They just need to know how to use a 3D printer and follow instructions well, no?
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    I am amazed how this has so many people scared.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    edited August 2018
    unsung said:
    I am amazed how this has so many people scared.
    Are people scared?? I'm getting the impression that they are simply concerned about the potential problems this could cause in the context of illegal weapons, which is completely reasonable.
    What truly amazed me is how so many people are scared about having their guns taken away from them and how concerned so many people are about the preservation of the white race. Shocking.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    I know, right?
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,437
    unsung said:
    I am amazed how this has so many people scared.
    Have you seen the pro-gun crowd? The only thing lower than collective IQ is the total number of teeth.

    so anything that makes it easy for these idiots to have a device designed to kill and that can avoid detection is a concern of mine. Cause it means they have to think less. The good news is these idiots don’t make enough to buy a 3d printer....but if they get together and put their $ together, we all have a lot to worry about.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    unsung said:
    I am amazed how this has so many people scared.
    Says the guy who takes a gun everywhere he goes and fears elimination of the white race.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    And yes, yes they should, minimum 10 years. Lock up those "responsible" gun owners.

    After every campus rampage, there is heated debate about how to curb the violence. But if kids did not have access to guns, a Post analysis found, two-thirds of school shootings since Columbine could not have happened. In Kentucky, where a teen is accused of killing two classmates with a gun from home, a prosecutor is weighing his own approach: “I’m seriously thinking about going after the stepfather.”
    • Story by John Woodrow Cox and Steven Rich | Illustration by Federico Yankelevic

    ‘The gun’s not in the closet’

    Since 1999, children have committed at least 145 school shootings. Among the 105 cases in which the weapon’s source was identified, 80 percent were taken from the child’s home or those of relatives or friends.

    Yet The Washington Post found that just four adults have been convicted for failing to lock up the guns used.

    Now, after a deadly school shooting in Kentucky, a prosecutor must decide: Should the parent who owned the weapon be charged?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/08/01/feature/school-shootings-should-parents-be-charged-for-failing-to-lock-up-guns-used-by-their-kids/?utm_term=.be58fa147b5a

    Since 1999, the shooters in at least 145 acts of gun violence at primary and secondary schools have been under the age of 18, according to an analysis by The Washington Post. Discussions about how to curb shootings at American schools have centered on arming teachers or improving mental health treatment, banning military-style rifles or strengthening background checks. But if kids as young as 6 did not have access to guns, The Post’s findings show, two-thirds of school shootings over the past two decades could not have happened.

    While investigators don’t always determine — or publicly reveal — the weapons’ origins, The Post found 105 cases in which the source was identified. Of those, the guns were taken from a child’s home or those of relatives or friends 84 times. The Post discovered just four instances when the adult owners of the weapons were criminally punished because they failed to lock them up.

    Only 14 states and the District have approved such laws, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, but even those statutes, researchers say, are often not enforced, are too limited or carry weak penalties, rendering them ineffective.

    The issue drew national attention in May after a 17-year-old in Santa Fe, Texas, was accused of killing 10 people at his school with a handgun and a shotgun that belonged to his dad. Although the state has a negligent-storage law, the father could not be charged under it because Texas defines a child as 16 or younger.

    Nothing can be done.


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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,060
    Yes. Charge those people who don't properly store firearms. 

    It really isn't that difficult. 

    Something can be done. 
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    And yes, yes they should, minimum 10 years. Lock up those "responsible" gun owners.

    After every campus rampage, there is heated debate about how to curb the violence. But if kids did not have access to guns, a Post analysis found, two-thirds of school shootings since Columbine could not have happened. In Kentucky, where a teen is accused of killing two classmates with a gun from home, a prosecutor is weighing his own approach: “I’m seriously thinking about going after the stepfather.”
    • Story by John Woodrow Cox and Steven Rich | Illustration by Federico Yankelevic

    ‘The gun’s not in the closet’

    Since 1999, children have committed at least 145 school shootings. Among the 105 cases in which the weapon’s source was identified, 80 percent were taken from the child’s home or those of relatives or friends.

    Yet The Washington Post found that just four adults have been convicted for failing to lock up the guns used.

    Now, after a deadly school shooting in Kentucky, a prosecutor must decide: Should the parent who owned the weapon be charged?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/08/01/feature/school-shootings-should-parents-be-charged-for-failing-to-lock-up-guns-used-by-their-kids/?utm_term=.be58fa147b5a

    Since 1999, the shooters in at least 145 acts of gun violence at primary and secondary schools have been under the age of 18, according to an analysis by The Washington Post. Discussions about how to curb shootings at American schools have centered on arming teachers or improving mental health treatment, banning military-style rifles or strengthening background checks. But if kids as young as 6 did not have access to guns, The Post’s findings show, two-thirds of school shootings over the past two decades could not have happened.

    While investigators don’t always determine — or publicly reveal — the weapons’ origins, The Post found 105 cases in which the source was identified. Of those, the guns were taken from a child’s home or those of relatives or friends 84 times. The Post discovered just four instances when the adult owners of the weapons were criminally punished because they failed to lock them up.

    Only 14 states and the District have approved such laws, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, but even those statutes, researchers say, are often not enforced, are too limited or carry weak penalties, rendering them ineffective.

    The issue drew national attention in May after a 17-year-old in Santa Fe, Texas, was accused of killing 10 people at his school with a handgun and a shotgun that belonged to his dad. Although the state has a negligent-storage law, the father could not be charged under it because Texas defines a child as 16 or younger.

    Nothing can be done.


    Yes. If a gun owner is negligent in handling or storage and that negligence results in injury or death, they should be held liable criminally and not just civilly. Knowing that you might face a hefty prison term if your child or other family member misused your gun might cause a shift with some of those who so far feel free to leave loaded weapons around. 
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    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    For when you want to shoot the alligator lurking by your ball on the edge ot the water hazard or to blast the ball out of the sky as its about to land on the green. Or maybe to encourage swifter play? Or keep people from hitting up on you?
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    For when you want to shoot the alligator lurking by your ball on the edge ot the water hazard or to blast the ball out of the sky as its about to land on the green. Or maybe to encourage swifter play? Or keep people from hitting up on you?
     :)  I like the blasting the gator ... 

    Maybe to shoot your opponents ball...

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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    This is great. 


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    unsung said:
    This is great. 


    A one shot shooter is the only type of 3D printed gun? Another stupid false analogy meme posted. Yet again.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    edited August 2018
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying ridiculous false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!

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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!
    Aw, shoot, you're all correct...


  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    edited August 2018
    unsung said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!
    Aw, shoot, you're all correct...


    I don't really understand what the point of this one is.... To show everyone how dumb some gun rights nuts are when it comes to the topic of technological advancement??
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,993
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    What about my posted response is incorrect? Or would lead you to believe that I'm a gun expert or conversely, don't possess a minimum understanding of the issue?
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    unsung said:
    This is great. 


    A one shot shooter is the only type of 3D printed gun? Another stupid false analogy meme posted. Yet again.
    Lol, and a good portion of people trying to print them on cheap 3D printers are probably going to lose their hands soon afterwards.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    PJPOWER said:
    unsung said:
    This is great. 


    A one shot shooter is the only type of 3D printed gun? Another stupid false analogy meme posted. Yet again.
    Lol, and a good portion of people trying to print them on cheap 3D printers are probably going to lose their hands soon afterwards.
    Yeah, another good reason for people to worry about it, and for it to be illegal.
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  • unsung said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!
    Aw, shoot, you're all correct...


    So, in where on reddit do you hang and find these boring memes?
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    unsung said:
    This is great. 


    A one shot shooter is the only type of 3D printed gun? Another stupid false analogy meme posted. Yet again.
    Lol, and a good portion of people trying to print them on cheap 3D printers are probably going to lose their hands soon afterwards.
    Yeah, another good reason for people to worry about it, and for it to be illegal.
    What, the sharing of blueprint information?  I agree that people should not be printing them due to the risks of, but how do you restrict the sharing of information online without implications regarding the 1st Amendment, or does the 1st Ammendment not protect online sharing of information?  I think it is going to be complicated to get this all blocked.  

  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    edited August 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    unsung said:
    This is great. 


    A one shot shooter is the only type of 3D printed gun? Another stupid false analogy meme posted. Yet again.
    Lol, and a good portion of people trying to print them on cheap 3D printers are probably going to lose their hands soon afterwards.
    Yeah, another good reason for people to worry about it, and for it to be illegal.
    What, the sharing of blueprint information?  I agree that people should not be printing them due to the risks of, but how do you restrict the sharing of information online without implications regarding the 1st Amendment, or does the 1st Ammendment not protect online sharing of information?  I think it is going to be complicated to get this all blocked.  

    No, as I've said a few times already, the actual printing of the things should be illegal, and that is why I also suggested that 3D printers should be built so that they cannot print guns at all - I feel that some kind of software could be created to achieve that.
    As for free sharing of info.... of course that's very important... there are limits obviously. Sharing child porn or snuff films is illegal for example. Or classified information. The freedom to share info isn't a blanket concept that includes literally all info. However, if bomb making instructions are legal, then I would think gun blueprints would have to be too.... Although I don't know the legality of that when it comes to essentially programming computers to do things ... maybe there is no law for that yet, which is why this issue is important to consider carefully.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,435
    unsung said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!
    Aw, shoot, you're all correct...


    What *finger quotes* "responsible member" of our well-regulated militia came up with this?
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,489
    edited August 2018
    unsung said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!
    Aw, shoot, you're all correct...


    What *finger quotes* "responsible member" of our well-regulated militia came up with this?
    I think it Is funny as hell. This one is all over Facebook. And FYI, the safety is on.  
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