Some People's Dogs

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    What timing - I've had Pit Bulls & Parolees going here and it always makes me think of this thread, of how some people have such little (or no) regard for the animals they should be caring for.

    Dogs can be so resilient. Beautiful, intuitive animals.

    It's an awful story, Thirty. In the photo, the dog appears underweight (and holds incredible sadness in his face and eyes). I truly hope he wasn't abused, but the cynical side of me thinks he was, especially with his first reaction to being hit.

    Also think his owner won't come forward on his/her own.
  • hedonist said:

    What timing - I've had Pit Bulls & Parolees going here and it always makes me think of this thread, of how some people have such little (or no) regard for the animals they should be caring for.

    Dogs can be so resilient. Beautiful, intuitive animals.

    It's an awful story, Thirty. In the photo, the dog appears underweight (and holds incredible sadness in his face and eyes). I truly hope he wasn't abused, but the cynical side of me thinks he was, especially with his first reaction to being hit.

    Also think his owner won't come forward on his/her own.

    Good point with regards to the dog ignoring the blow with the bat.

    If the dog had been raised properly, if it had come across a person in distress, it would have been nursing the man instead of gnawing on him. I re-read a portion of this thread and it needs to be said again: not everyone who wants a dog should have a dog.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524

    hedonist said:

    What timing - I've had Pit Bulls & Parolees going here and it always makes me think of this thread, of how some people have such little (or no) regard for the animals they should be caring for.

    Dogs can be so resilient. Beautiful, intuitive animals.

    It's an awful story, Thirty. In the photo, the dog appears underweight (and holds incredible sadness in his face and eyes). I truly hope he wasn't abused, but the cynical side of me thinks he was, especially with his first reaction to being hit.

    Also think his owner won't come forward on his/her own.

    Good point with regards to the dog ignoring the blow with the bat.

    If the dog had been raised properly, if it had come across a person in distress, it would have been nursing the man instead of gnawing on him. I re-read a portion of this thread and it needs to be said again: not everyone who wants a dog should have a dog.
    Amen, my friend.
  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    hedonist said:

    hedonist said:

    What timing - I've had Pit Bulls & Parolees going here and it always makes me think of this thread, of how some people have such little (or no) regard for the animals they should be caring for.

    Dogs can be so resilient. Beautiful, intuitive animals.

    It's an awful story, Thirty. In the photo, the dog appears underweight (and holds incredible sadness in his face and eyes). I truly hope he wasn't abused, but the cynical side of me thinks he was, especially with his first reaction to being hit.

    Also think his owner won't come forward on his/her own.

    Good point with regards to the dog ignoring the blow with the bat.

    If the dog had been raised properly, if it had come across a person in distress, it would have been nursing the man instead of gnawing on him. I re-read a portion of this thread and it needs to be said again: not everyone who wants a dog should have a dog.
    Amen, my friend.
    Preach! I've just heard some heartbreaking news about the family of someone i know (notice I'm not using the word friend) who had to move & therefore rehomed one dog to someone they barely knew and put down another who was old but not sick. I know WH got some shit for expressing similar sentiments, but I truthfully prefer animals to some humans.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
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  • With no debate whatsoever OP
    Fuck this breed.
  • You can't make this shit up.

    I'm mountain biking today. Coming down from the mountain top, I come around a switchback and what do you know... a behemoth pitbull running at me. Yay!

    The owner yells, "She's friendly!"

    Of course she is. She promptly latches on to my left calve. The owner yells, "Cookie!!" And then races up to grab her.

    I stopped and stood there shocked. I looked at her and said, "I guess shes not that friendly, eh?"

    The owner said, "She's just confused by the bikes" (I was with three other guys).

    It happened so fast, I didn't really know how to respond. But now that I'm home and looking at my calve muscle... I'm steamed.

    We've come across bears, golden retrievers, labs, little dogs, and you name it. The only thing to attack us has been a pitbull. I wonder why? No, I don't. I know why. The breed is f**king useless (outside of guarding dangerous people in prisons that is). And don't give me any of that f**king "it's not the dog... it's the owner" bullshit because that's the same company line this goofy owner spewed at people when trying to tell them that pitbulls are cool and so was 'Cookie'.

    I'm buying bear spray. The next time someone's f**king dog goes running towards me when I'm on the trails... I'm spraying it. If the owner says anything... I'm spraying them too.

    F**k me. No. F**k them. Gawddamn f**king dog owners with shitty dogs.

    Yes. I'm pissed off.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Oh Thirty, I'm so sorry. Can only imagine the panic and really hope your pain is at a minimum.

    In good conscience (and as, over time, we've come to respectfully disagree on this), I'm unable to blame the animal no matter the breed. Fucking owners need to be responsible toward their pets AND their community. Keep your dogs leashed and keep others safe in their presence.

    Totally get your being pissed. Hope you're doing a bit better now.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    edited September 2015

    You can't make this shit up.

    I'm mountain biking today. Coming down from the mountain top, I come around a switchback and what do you know... a behemoth pitbull running at me. Yay!

    The owner yells, "She's friendly!"

    Of course she is. She promptly latches on to my left calve. The owner yells, "Cookie!!" And then races up to grab her.

    I stopped and stood there shocked. I looked at her and said, "I guess shes not that friendly, eh?"

    The owner said, "She's just confused by the bikes" (I was with three other guys).

    It happened so fast, I didn't really know how to respond. But now that I'm home and looking at my calve muscle... I'm steamed.

    We've come across bears, golden retrievers, labs, little dogs, and you name it. The only thing to attack us has been a pitbull. I wonder why? No, I don't. I know why. The breed is f**king useless (outside of guarding dangerous people in prisons that is). And don't give me any of that f**king "it's not the dog... it's the owner" bullshit because that's the same company line this goofy owner spewed at people when trying to tell them that pitbulls are cool and so was 'Cookie'.

    I'm buying bear spray. The next time someone's f**king dog goes running towards me when I'm on the trails... I'm spraying it. If the owner says anything... I'm spraying them too.

    F**k me. No. F**k them. Gawddamn f**king dog owners with shitty dogs.

    Yes. I'm pissed off.

    Did you get any info from the owner or anything? I feel like this dog needs to be reported. Next time it might be a toddler's face instead of a man's calf, while the owner keeps insisting it wouldn't hurt a fly - it just gets confused by bikes. :|

    (I don't buy this "it's all about the owners" line either. Many pitbulls wirh great owners have attacked. The owners all say "he's never done anything like that before". Well none of them have... until they do)
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Damn, Thirty, that sucks! Very sorry to hear about this. I agree with PJ_Soul- the lady that owns the dog that bit you needs to be held accountable.

    Also, this fascination with American pit bull Terriers (a.k.a. "pit bulls") needs to end. I've known some very sweet "pit bulls" but they've gotten to be a fad and if not properly trained they can be dangerous. When I see one with it's owner I immediately look at the owner to asses the situation. Too many times I am left feeling wary.
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  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    Bull terriers*

    Also you guys are nuts.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,454
    edited September 2015

    You can't make this shit up.

    I'm mountain biking today. Coming down from the mountain top, I come around a switchback and what do you know... a behemoth pitbull running at me. Yay!

    The owner yells, "She's friendly!"

    Of course she is. She promptly latches on to my left calve. The owner yells, "Cookie!!" And then races up to grab her.

    I stopped and stood there shocked. I looked at her and said, "I guess shes not that friendly, eh?"

    The owner said, "She's just confused by the bikes" (I was with three other guys).

    It happened so fast, I didn't really know how to respond. But now that I'm home and looking at my calve muscle... I'm steamed.

    We've come across bears, golden retrievers, labs, little dogs, and you name it. The only thing to attack us has been a pitbull. I wonder why? No, I don't. I know why. The breed is f**king useless (outside of guarding dangerous people in prisons that is). And don't give me any of that f**king "it's not the dog... it's the owner" bullshit because that's the same company line this goofy owner spewed at people when trying to tell them that pitbulls are cool and so was 'Cookie'.

    I'm buying bear spray. The next time someone's f**king dog goes running towards me when I'm on the trails... I'm spraying it. If the owner says anything... I'm spraying them too.

    F**k me. No. F**k them. Gawddamn f**king dog owners with shitty dogs.

    Yes. I'm pissed off.

    Curious, do you think if the dog was leashed you would have gotten bit?

    Edit typo.
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  • callen
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    Why it's still on bucket list. Not practical but fun !!! Dad bough

    You can't make this shit up.

    I'm mountain biking today. Coming down from the mountain top, I come around a switchback and what do you know... a behemoth pitbull running at me. Yay!

    The owner yells, "She's friendly!"

    Of course she is. She promptly latches on to my left calve. The owner yells, "Cookie!!" And then races up to grab her.

    I stopped and stood there shocked. I looked at her and said, "I guess shes not that friendly, eh?"

    The owner said, "She's just confused by the bikes" (I was with three other guys).

    It happened so fast, I didn't really know how to respond. But now that I'm home and looking at my calve muscle... I'm steamed.

    We've come across bears, golden retrievers, labs, little dogs, and you name it. The only thing to attack us has been a pitbull. I wonder why? No, I don't. I know why. The breed is f**king useless (outside of guarding dangerous people in prisons that is). And don't give me any of that f**king "it's not the dog... it's the owner" bullshit because that's the same company line this goofy owner spewed at people when trying to tell them that pitbulls are cool and so was 'Cookie'.

    I'm buying bear spray. The next time someone's f**king dog goes running towards me when I'm on the trails... I'm spraying it. If the owner says anything... I'm spraying them too.

    F**k me. No. F**k them. Gawddamn f**king dog owners with shitty dogs.

    Yes. I'm pissed off.

    Feel you Thirty. Hope you heel up pre dog bite.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    edited September 2015
    One of my best buds has two of this breed. (Don't want to call them wrong name HA). Hung with him and his dogs many times. The big male is skittish and I know I can't make eye contact because he gets into defense mode. Sorry I don't trust this breed one bit. I'm a dog guy and do t have issues communicating with them but this breed, different for me.
    Post edited by callen on
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mickeyrat said:

    You can't make this shit up.

    I'm mountain biking today. Coming down from the mountain top, I come around a switchback and what do you know... a behemoth pitbull running at me. Yay!

    The owner yells, "She's friendly!"

    Of course she is. She promptly latches on to my left calve. The owner yells, "Cookie!!" And then races up to grab her.

    I stopped and stood there shocked. I looked at her and said, "I guess shes not that friendly, eh?"

    The owner said, "She's just confused by the bikes" (I was with three other guys).

    It happened so fast, I didn't really know how to respond. But now that I'm home and looking at my calve muscle... I'm steamed.

    We've come across bears, golden retrievers, labs, little dogs, and you name it. The only thing to attack us has been a pitbull. I wonder why? No, I don't. I know why. The breed is f**king useless (outside of guarding dangerous people in prisons that is). And don't give me any of that f**king "it's not the dog... it's the owner" bullshit because that's the same company line this goofy owner spewed at people when trying to tell them that pitbulls are cool and so was 'Cookie'.

    I'm buying bear spray. The next time someone's f**king dog goes running towards me when I'm on the trails... I'm spraying it. If the owner says anything... I'm spraying them too.

    F**k me. No. F**k them. Gawddamn f**king dog owners with shitty dogs.

    Yes. I'm pissed off.

    Curious, do you think if the god was leashed you would have gotten bit?
    Well, gods can be dangerous, leashed or not.

    Thirty, hoping your leg isn't too badly torn up; I know those bites can be pretty serious.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited September 2015
    Sore. And still pissed off.

    The dog wasn't going to be on a leash in this setting- its out of town and in the mountain. If it had been on a leash, it likely wouldn't have gotten me; but that's not the issue in this situation.

    We shouldn't come across dogs that need to be leashed or they will attack you.

    The dog was out of its mind and consumed with whatever was in its simple f**king dog mind about me that motivated the filthy animal to bite me. I never startled the pair... it had seen me coming and was running away from its owner up the trail towards me. I had to slow down because it was running directly at me- to the point of stopping (where it began investigating my leg with its jaws and teeth).

    I'm not surprised and neither were my friends. We all agreed the dog and the breed of the dog are a nemesis to society. For every proud pitbull owner (like this one prior to yesterday)... there's a child or a mountain biker bitten.

    As I've said earlier... all the times we've biked... we've come across several dogs and even bears. None have taken the slightest interest in us. This f**king dog was completely different than the other animals though. Dangerous and needs to go. Sorry, but its the truth. People should not be in positions to be wary of dogs. Dogs should be respectful of people you know... the things that place food in their bowls.
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  • And to all those wishing well- thank you. I'll be fine. Just really aggravated.

    LOL... I was wondering if there was a fist pump or two!
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    Sore. And still pissed off.

    The dog wasn't going to be on a leash in this setting- its out of town and in the mountain. If it had been on a leash, it likely wouldn't have gotten me; but that's not the issue in this situation.

    We shouldn't come across dogs that need to be leashed or they will attack you.

    The dog was out of its mind and consumed with whatever was in its simple f**king dog mind about me that motivated the filthy animal to bite me. I never startled the pair... it had seen me coming and was running away from its owner up the trail towards me. I had to slow down because it was running directly at me- to the point of stopping (where it began investigating my leg with its jaws and teeth).

    I'm not surprised and neither were my friends. We all agreed the dog and the breed of the dog are a nemesis to society. For every proud pitbull owner (like this one prior to yesterday)... there's a child or a mountain biker bitten.

    As I've said earlier... all the times we've biked... we've come across several dogs and even bears. None have taken the slightest interest in us. This f**king dog was completely different than the other animals though. Dangerous and needs to go. Sorry, but its the truth. People should not be in positions to be wary of dogs. Dogs should be respectful of people you know... the things that place food in their bowls.

    I hike in the mountains all the time and my dogs stay on leash, it's for their safety as well as the wildlife and people we may come across.
    The rest of your contribution is just an angry rant (justified of course).
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  • rgambs said:

    Sore. And still pissed off.

    The dog wasn't going to be on a leash in this setting- its out of town and in the mountain. If it had been on a leash, it likely wouldn't have gotten me; but that's not the issue in this situation.

    We shouldn't come across dogs that need to be leashed or they will attack you.

    The dog was out of its mind and consumed with whatever was in its simple f**king dog mind about me that motivated the filthy animal to bite me. I never startled the pair... it had seen me coming and was running away from its owner up the trail towards me. I had to slow down because it was running directly at me- to the point of stopping (where it began investigating my leg with its jaws and teeth).

    I'm not surprised and neither were my friends. We all agreed the dog and the breed of the dog are a nemesis to society. For every proud pitbull owner (like this one prior to yesterday)... there's a child or a mountain biker bitten.

    As I've said earlier... all the times we've biked... we've come across several dogs and even bears. None have taken the slightest interest in us. This f**king dog was completely different than the other animals though. Dangerous and needs to go. Sorry, but its the truth. People should not be in positions to be wary of dogs. Dogs should be respectful of people you know... the things that place food in their bowls.

    I hike in the mountains all the time and my dogs stay on leash, it's for their safety as well as the wildlife and people we may come across.
    The rest of your contribution is just an angry rant (justified of course).
    You don't let your dogs run, RG?

    The rest of my post might be an angry rant... but there's some truth in there. In particular, I don't want a society where dangerous- even potentially dangerous dogs- trump the safety and well being of people minding their own business.

    Outside of prisons... we don't need dogs that require a leash to prevent them from chewing on people. WTF is that?

    Kind of like guns, RG. Everyone's a responsible owner until their shit dog goes and bites someone: "Oh my Gawd. I'm sooo sorry. I don't know what came over her?"

    Yah. Go have fun with Cookie now. Make sure she doesn't bite some kids face off riding a big wheel by your house.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    rgambs said:

    Sore. And still pissed off.

    The dog wasn't going to be on a leash in this setting- its out of town and in the mountain. If it had been on a leash, it likely wouldn't have gotten me; but that's not the issue in this situation.

    We shouldn't come across dogs that need to be leashed or they will attack you.

    The dog was out of its mind and consumed with whatever was in its simple f**king dog mind about me that motivated the filthy animal to bite me. I never startled the pair... it had seen me coming and was running away from its owner up the trail towards me. I had to slow down because it was running directly at me- to the point of stopping (where it began investigating my leg with its jaws and teeth).

    I'm not surprised and neither were my friends. We all agreed the dog and the breed of the dog are a nemesis to society. For every proud pitbull owner (like this one prior to yesterday)... there's a child or a mountain biker bitten.

    As I've said earlier... all the times we've biked... we've come across several dogs and even bears. None have taken the slightest interest in us. This f**king dog was completely different than the other animals though. Dangerous and needs to go. Sorry, but its the truth. People should not be in positions to be wary of dogs. Dogs should be respectful of people you know... the things that place food in their bowls.

    I hike in the mountains all the time and my dogs stay on leash, it's for their safety as well as the wildlife and people we may come across.
    The rest of your contribution is just an angry rant (justified of course).
    You don't let your dogs run, RG?

    The rest of my post might be an angry rant... but there's some truth in there. In particular, I don't want a society where dangerous- even potentially dangerous dogs- trump the safety and well being of people minding their own business.

    Outside of prisons... we don't need dogs that require a leash to prevent them from chewing on people. WTF is that?

    Kind of like guns, RG. Everyone's a responsible owner until their shit dog goes and bites someone: "Oh my Gawd. I'm sooo sorry. I don't know what came over her?"

    Yah. Go have fun with Cookie now. Make sure she doesn't bite some kids face off riding a big wheel by your house.
    I can't say I never let them run, sometimes I do, but not for long and only when we are in serious wilderness territory (at least a days hike from trailhead). They get to run in the woods at my house but I live in the serious boonies, and they get to run when I run with them. They are friendly, but you never know what will happen so it's better safe than sorry.
    Any dog is capable of chewing on someone, that's why they should all be leashed, just like guns should be locked away properly.
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