Fan Club Scalpers

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,756
    edited June 2014

    members must sell their unwanted tickets to scalpers right outside the venue after they pick them up at will call. an obvious scalper leaning against his car in london asked me if i needed an upgrade to fan club tickets as i walked by.

    Exactly. Some legit member out for a buck very likely sold their club tix to the scalper after they picked them up. This has nothing to do with scalpers getting in on the lottery, but it's a good example as to why 10C should get an entry policy that combines ticket pick up, so no one has a chance to resell their tix after they've picked them up at will call. It's also a good example.of how insane PJ fans are btw. The amount of $$$ that some fans are willing to pay is the ONLY cause of ticket reselling and flipping.
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,329
    I recall being approached outside Wrigley by a guy that looked to be in his late 40s/early 50s, and I remember the 1st thing I noticed about him was the dour body language. He asked me if I had spare GA tickets and mentioned that when he went to pick up his 10C tickets he was told they were confiscated and that his membership was revoked and he was shutout as a result. I asked him if he got caught scalping and he replied that it was all a big misunderstanding, that someone saw a message his wife posted on the Facebook offering up his GA tickets for sale and reported him.

    I sometimes wonder if he and his wife are still good.
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,861
    I did the credit card entry for RHCP. It was OK. It was a bit stressful having nothing on hand... and also we had to all go in (4 of us) in one group as I had to have the card swiped at the turnstile. The thing printed out the tickets right there.

    But yeah, that would pretty much eliminate resale, and really make it more difficult for folks who get doubles.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    MayDay10 said:

    I did the credit card entry for RHCP. It was OK. It was a bit stressful having nothing on hand... and also we had to all go in (4 of us) in one group as I had to have the card swiped at the turnstile. The thing printed out the tickets right there.

    But yeah, that would pretty much eliminate resale, and really make it more difficult for folks who get doubles.

    Seems a good idea..from the other ha d as an international buyer may have a pro..sometimes cc doesnt work out of my country and everywhere..so will be crazy if i travel all the way from greece and cant scan my cc
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  • bionicamy
    bionicamy Posts: 425
    PJ_Soul said:

    members must sell their unwanted tickets to scalpers right outside the venue after they pick them up at will call. an obvious scalper leaning against his car in london asked me if i needed an upgrade to fan club tickets as i walked by.

    Exactly. Some legit member out for a buck very likely sold their club tix to the scalper after they picked them up. This has nothing to do with scalpers getting in on the lottery, but it's a good example as to why 10C should get an entry policy that combines ticket pick up, so no one has a chance to resell their tix after they've picked them up at will call. It's also a good example.of how insane PJ fans are btw. The amount of $$$ that some fans are willing to pay is the ONLY cause of ticket reselling and flipping.
    We saw this happen at the shows last fall. People would walk in get their 10C tickets only to walk out to directly sell them to the scalpers. I probably still have a picture of one of the scalpers with the plain ticketmaster tickets and the 10c tickets in his hand as he was trying to sell. Just made me feel really bad seeing that happen.

    I agree the pick up should be similar to the Vic.... No entry without a wristband or something....
    There's gots be a better way.


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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,756
    100 Pacer said:

    I recall being approached outside Wrigley by a guy that looked to be in his late 40s/early 50s, and I remember the 1st thing I noticed about him was the dour body language. He asked me if I had spare GA tickets and mentioned that when he went to pick up his 10C tickets he was told they were confiscated and that his membership was revoked and he was shutout as a result. I asked him if he got caught scalping and he replied that it was all a big misunderstanding, that someone saw a message his wife posted on the Facebook offering up his GA tickets for sale and reported him.

    I sometimes wonder if he and his wife are still good.

    That doesn't sound like a misunderstanding to me. Sounds like he and his wife decided to sell his 10c tix at a profit and got caught.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,756
    edited June 2014

    MayDay10 said:

    I did the credit card entry for RHCP. It was OK. It was a bit stressful having nothing on hand... and also we had to all go in (4 of us) in one group as I had to have the card swiped at the turnstile. The thing printed out the tickets right there.

    But yeah, that would pretty much eliminate resale, and really make it more difficult for folks who get doubles.

    Seems a good idea..from the other ha d as an international buyer may have a pro..sometimes cc doesnt work out of my country and everywhere..so will be crazy if i travel all the way from greece and cant scan my cc
    Another good point.
    I just think this is discriminatory. Only people who have their own credit card can buy tickets and see the show. Very exclusionary IMO.
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  • WhatYouTaughtMe
    WhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    edited June 2014
    100 Pacer said:

    I recall being approached outside Wrigley by a guy that looked to be in his late 40s/early 50s, and I remember the 1st thing I noticed about him was the dour body language. He asked me if I had spare GA tickets and mentioned that when he went to pick up his 10C tickets he was told they were confiscated and that his membership was revoked and he was shutout as a result. I asked him if he got caught scalping and he replied that it was all a big misunderstanding, that someone saw a message his wife posted on the Facebook offering up his GA tickets for sale and reported him.

    I sometimes wonder if he and his wife are still good.

    That doesn't sound like a misunderstanding to me. Sounds like he and his wife decided to sell his 10c tix at a profit and got caught.

    Yeah, I would have dour body language if I knew I had to explain to someone that they came to the show and I didn't have the tickets I promised to sell them. Sounds like he got busted.
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,914


    How many ids u have??how many different tickets can u pick up with the same name..wjile 10c not allowed same meberships..with the same face??how many shows will be at your hometown so no need to travel to other towns to pick them the day of the show??where u can list fan club ticket and not get reported to 10c the same day?
    What will be your reserved seats so tell the buyer where his seats are since will know after u take them in hand?
    when u join the club if dont know when will tour??and when thwy announce tour u cant be able to score tix after the announcement?
    let me tell u what a pro scalper does...he buy frkm ticketmasrer 50 tix...best in the house besides fan club...not paying 20$membership to 10c and sells them online without move his ass from his couch..

    I saw documentary on TM once. For most shows they get an in and directly buy tickets from the ticket agency. There are shows they don't get to do that for, and they had a guy showing off a giant binder full of credit cards issued under different names (presumedly under the name of staff members at the ticket broker company).

    All the best tickets to the fan club. All the ones that are remotely close to the stage. Scalpers make more money off the close tickets than they do the rest of them. If it takes 3 or 4 memberships to get one GA pair there still going to come out smelling like roses. It's less hard that you think.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Zod said:


    How many ids u have??how many different tickets can u pick up with the same name..wjile 10c not allowed same meberships..with the same face??how many shows will be at your hometown so no need to travel to other towns to pick them the day of the show??where u can list fan club ticket and not get reported to 10c the same day?
    What will be your reserved seats so tell the buyer where his seats are since will know after u take them in hand?
    when u join the club if dont know when will tour??and when thwy announce tour u cant be able to score tix after the announcement?
    let me tell u what a pro scalper does...he buy frkm ticketmasrer 50 tix...best in the house besides fan club...not paying 20$membership to 10c and sells them online without move his ass from his couch..

    I saw documentary on TM once. For most shows they get an in and directly buy tickets from the ticket agency. There are shows they don't get to do that for, and they had a guy showing off a giant binder full of credit cards issued under different names (presumedly under the name of staff members at the ticket broker company).

    All the best tickets to the fan club. All the ones that are remotely close to the stage. Scalpers make more money off the close tickets than they do the rest of them. If it takes 3 or 4 memberships to get one GA pair there still going to come out smelling like roses. It's less hard that you think.
    Let me know where at secondary market u can list that u selling your ga 10c ticket without get reported...
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  • WhatYouTaughtMe
    WhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957

    Zod said:


    How many ids u have??how many different tickets can u pick up with the same name..wjile 10c not allowed same meberships..with the same face??how many shows will be at your hometown so no need to travel to other towns to pick them the day of the show??where u can list fan club ticket and not get reported to 10c the same day?
    What will be your reserved seats so tell the buyer where his seats are since will know after u take them in hand?
    when u join the club if dont know when will tour??and when thwy announce tour u cant be able to score tix after the announcement?
    let me tell u what a pro scalper does...he buy frkm ticketmasrer 50 tix...best in the house besides fan club...not paying 20$membership to 10c and sells them online without move his ass from his couch..

    I saw documentary on TM once. For most shows they get an in and directly buy tickets from the ticket agency. There are shows they don't get to do that for, and they had a guy showing off a giant binder full of credit cards issued under different names (presumedly under the name of staff members at the ticket broker company).

    All the best tickets to the fan club. All the ones that are remotely close to the stage. Scalpers make more money off the close tickets than they do the rest of them. If it takes 3 or 4 memberships to get one GA pair there still going to come out smelling like roses. It's less hard that you think.
    Let me know where at secondary market u can list that u selling your ga 10c ticket without get reported...
    They can get reported, but unless someone goes undercover or gets the person's legit info, there isn't anything they can do. Someone in the fan club could easily use a spouse or friend to sell the ticket and then show up to pick it up themselves. It is GA, if they still did seated tickets I guess they could track it that way if the person put the exact seat location. Some people are dumb enough to sell it under their own name, which would almost certainly get you kicked I think. There are ways to be anonymous up until the point of handing the tickets over.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725

    Zod said:


    How many ids u have??how many different tickets can u pick up with the same name..wjile 10c not allowed same meberships..with the same face??how many shows will be at your hometown so no need to travel to other towns to pick them the day of the show??where u can list fan club ticket and not get reported to 10c the same day?
    What will be your reserved seats so tell the buyer where his seats are since will know after u take them in hand?
    when u join the club if dont know when will tour??and when thwy announce tour u cant be able to score tix after the announcement?
    let me tell u what a pro scalper does...he buy frkm ticketmasrer 50 tix...best in the house besides fan club...not paying 20$membership to 10c and sells them online without move his ass from his couch..

    I saw documentary on TM once. For most shows they get an in and directly buy tickets from the ticket agency. There are shows they don't get to do that for, and they had a guy showing off a giant binder full of credit cards issued under different names (presumedly under the name of staff members at the ticket broker company).

    All the best tickets to the fan club. All the ones that are remotely close to the stage. Scalpers make more money off the close tickets than they do the rest of them. If it takes 3 or 4 memberships to get one GA pair there still going to come out smelling like roses. It's less hard that you think.
    Let me know where at secondary market u can list that u selling your ga 10c ticket without get reported...
    They can get reported, but unless someone goes undercover or gets the person's legit info, there isn't anything they can do. Someone in the fan club could easily use a spouse or friend to sell the ticket and then show up to pick it up themselves. It is GA, if they still did seated tickets I guess they could track it that way if the person put the exact seat location. Some people are dumb enough to sell it under their own name, which would almost certainly get you kicked I think. There are ways to be anonymous up until the point of handing the tickets over.
    I hear ya...still..where ..which site someone can list ..exable'1ga 10c ticket fir denver 1000$' 'and get away with it??at any name u like..
    there alot of theories..but in action..
    which site someine can list 10c and sell tix online without pro and all goes smooth for his scalping business?
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,939
    Fuck Cincy
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725

    Fuck Cincy

    We need a cincy fishing forum thread
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,939

    Fuck Cincy

    We need a cincy fishing forum thread
    How ya been?
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725

    Fuck Cincy

    We need a cincy fishing forum thread
    How ya been?
    Its ok..alot of health issues..but will be ok...
    you all good??where u going at fall??cincy?
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,939

    Fuck Cincy

    We need a cincy fishing forum thread
    How ya been?
    Its ok..alot of health issues..but will be ok...
    you all good??where u going at fall??cincy?
    Milwaukee

    Just 1 show for me.

    Health issues?
    Whats up?
    Send me a pm.
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  • rock4ever
    rock4ever Posts: 239
    Going back to selling 10c tickets , here's a theory , if say for instance, I failed to get a 10c standing ticket for a show, but buy a GA ticket from ticketmaster for an example , technically I have the same ticket as I would if I had them from 10c , do you agree? Which I have done before , would there be the same hoohar about him selling the tickets for $500 a piece, I don't think there would, somebody might say robbing bastard! But hey if you don't like the price don't buy simple. but arent rules there to be broken ?? My point is that the 10c ticketing is not always best , as normally for us in the UK the exchange rate makes them more expensive , than paying TM prices with the extras, never failed to get a ticket to a gig I wanted to go to, GA and seats Let's look at this another way I have posted on the site I have a spare ticket to Leeds at face price , can't even sell that the venue holds 13k tops.

    I guess the saying supply and demand comes to mind,

    Only way to stop this happening is guess what ? don't buy from touts ( scalpels ) but people won't so there will always be a market for ticket sales , no mater what rules and regulations say
  • WhatYouTaughtMe
    WhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    Now at 2 grand. He must think all the inquiries from people trying to get his info are people really interested. I hope he holds out for a long time and has to dump them for way less than the greedy bastard is hoping to get. What a douche.
  • quimby20
    quimby20 Posts: 823
    He wanted to meet me on tuesday. CASH $100 Bills. Could also be a setup