Fan Club Scalpers

PJ_Soul

RedMosquito02 said:

hypnotist collector said:

Dear Ten Clubbers and/or Intrepid Moderators,
Please take a few moments to check out this abhorrent disgrace:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/tix/4492818865.html

This is a firsthand example of how true fans get shat on. To quote the Craigslist poster, "rock on"...

-Hypnotist Collector

The lottery is heaven on earth for scalpers.

Best possible situation for them.

That is not actually true. Hardly any scalpers mess with fan club tix. Not worth the trouble.

oftenreading

So, lolobugg, you think this scalper is a kind of modern day Jean Valjean? Santos will have to be our Javert.

Nami

concertaholicshirt said:

Nami said:

concertaholicshirt said:

The person is a douche, plain and simple. I've made decent $ over the years as a re-seller, including VH (3rd Row Center) and Prince (2nd Row Center) tickets that I sold for over $1,000 each. As my name here implies, I'm an addict... I use my profits to fund my concert addiction. In the case of VH, I netted about $650 after buying another really good seat, and Prince I netted a little over $100 and got a 2nd Row Left seat. (face on Prince's "VIPs" was about $450.... and the VIP was meaningless... no extras.)

That said, the two times I got GA from PJ were for Missoula and Seattle, which were very far from home. It was very tempting to list one of them on CL for a large profit to help defray my travel costs, but I respected the band's wishes. I sold both at cost to a 10C fan, and Seattle I could have gotten $500 from a guy standing by the Will Call window... I still didn't have the other guy's $, but I wasn't going to fuck him and take the extra $400+.

Fuck this Detroit douche. Karma, Bay-BEE... Karma.

this is funny...sorry but your wrong on so many counts

Didn't realize I had more than a few counts Where did I really drop the ball?

Don't see the difference between your actions and Detroit seller first of all.... Selling at a profit for your own benefit for non 10c tix..

Good on you for selling you 10c for face. Does that excuse you to other fan groups for selling above value?

But then you call them a douche? And bring karma into it?

Happy Saturday

dimitrispearljam

PJ_Soul said:

RedMosquito02 said:

hypnotist collector said:

Dear Ten Clubbers and/or Intrepid Moderators,
Please take a few moments to check out this abhorrent disgrace:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/tix/4492818865.html

This is a firsthand example of how true fans get shat on. To quote the Craigslist poster, "rock on"...

-Hypnotist Collector

The lottery is heaven on earth for scalpers.

Best possible situation for them.

That is not actually true. Hardly any scalpers mess with fan club tix. Not worth the trouble.

Yep..scalping has nothing to do with method selling tix...whatever people dont knkw or like thwy blame lottery...for some people..lottery ..is like communism

my2hands

MayDay10 said:

The system unfortunately makes this very easy to do. Been saying this for a year now

People scalped their tickets under the old system, especially guys with low numbers that could guarantee tickets in the first 10 rows... i personally have heard of members funding entire road trips/vacations by selling their pairs under the old non GA system... it is a lot easier to sell a ticket in the 5th row then it is to sell a GA ticket where people have to wait in line and battle for position... and we all know F5 was actually easier for veterans to get tickets than the lottery is (I never got shut out in the past)... I actually think this lottery system and GA eliminates a lot of the hijinks

dimitrispearljam

my2hands said:

MayDay10 said:

The system unfortunately makes this very easy to do. Been saying this for a year now

People scalped their tickets under the old system, especially guys with low numbers that could guarantee tickets in the first 10 rows... i personally have heard of members funding entire road trips/vacations by selling their pairs under the old non GA system... it is a lot easier to sell a ticket in the 5th row then it is to sell a GA ticket where people have to wait in line and battle for position... and we all know F5 was actually easier for veterans to get tickets than the lottery is (I never got shut out in the past)... I actually think this lottery system and GA eliminates a lot of the hijinks

Yep..

MayDay10

Can't duplicate low numbers. Can duplicate ga chances.

And I'm not advocating f5 in any way

dimitrispearljam

MayDay10 said:

Can't duplicate low numbers. Can duplicate ga chances.

And I'm not advocating f5 in any way

You cant list anywhere ga tix for sale..every knows is 10c..so u could easily reported to 10c

Nami

F5 forever!

scurtis

mcrok said:

they could do the ticketless entry...you'd have to swipe your credit card at the gate to get in...i see it coming

Agree.

Went to two Red Hot Chili Peppers' shows last year and they were ticketless.

PJ_Soul

scurtis said:

mcrok said:

they could do the ticketless entry...you'd have to swipe your credit card at the gate to get in...i see it coming

Agree.

Went to two Red Hot Chili Peppers' shows last year and they were ticketless.

The problem there is that not everyone bought their tix with their own credit card. I'm sure there are tons of people who got someone else to pay for their tix for them but don't bring them to the show. I.e. teenagers, spouses of the one who paid, people who were broke and got a friend to pay, etc.

whofeelslikeadrank

dimitrispearljam said:

Yep..

dude, i haven't seen you in this part of the forum for some time now... welcome back \m/

Nami

whofeelslikeadrank said:

dimitrispearljam said:

Yep..

dude, i haven't seen you in this part of the forum for some time now... welcome back \m/

Exactly where da f you been? Lol

EnterThanman

PJ_Soul said:

10C really needs to tweek its ticket pickup policy - force people to enter the venue and then pick up their tix/wristband inside the door, and put on said wristband there too. That would make it impossible to scalp GA tix. Sure it would take a bit more manpower to make sure it went smoothly, but big deal. I've seen it work, so it's totally doable. But meanwhile, incentives see that SLH is going to try and take some action!

I agree with this. I'm sure other bands do it, but at the Tom Waits show a few years back I had to swipe my CC inside the venue, at which time my tickets were printed and immediately ripped before I even had a chance to touch them, leaving ZERO room for scalping. It's a very doable system which PJ should consider.

dimitrispearljam

Nami said:

whofeelslikeadrank said:

dimitrispearljam said:

Yep..

dude, i haven't seen you in this part of the forum for some time now... welcome back \m/

Exactly where da f you been? Lol

tempo_n_groove

dimitrispearljam said:

Nami said:

whofeelslikeadrank said:

dimitrispearljam said:

Yep..

dude, i haven't seen you in this part of the forum for some time now... welcome back \m/

Exactly where da f you been? Lol

LOOK WHO'S BACK!!!

YES!!!!

chaslil

EnterThanman said:

PJ_Soul said:

10C really needs to tweek its ticket pickup policy - force people to enter the venue and then pick up their tix/wristband inside the door, and put on said wristband there too. That would make it impossible to scalp GA tix. Sure it would take a bit more manpower to make sure it went smoothly, but big deal. I've seen it work, so it's totally doable. But meanwhile, incentives see that SLH is going to try and take some action!

I agree with this. I'm sure other bands do it, but at the Tom Waits show a few years back I had to swipe my CC inside the venue, at which time my tickets were printed and immediately ripped before I even had a chance to touch them, leaving ZERO room for scalping. It's a very doable system which PJ should consider.

This is the way Altitude Tickets does it with flash tickets at the Pepsi Center in Denver. Otherwise they charge $25 for mail or will call.You can also transfer them between credit cards online.

I assume Ten Club will have them all printed and in envelopes,since they did not say you would need to bring your cards, but it seems technically possible they could have used the flash tickets.

Charles

jason_bouchard88

hrd2imgn said:

seriously folks, yes he/she is a jag for violating the sacred no scalp pact, but physical violence really? Joke or not, call for his membership to be revoked, but Santos violence requests, this is not the mafia, and Santos is not Don Corleone

Agreed. Terminate his Ten Club membership for life and please, no threats of physical violence. Not a good message.

Interesting fan club story that I've read recently: there was a Metclub member (Metallica fan club) that was shutout of the metclub for their metallica by request show in bogota, Colombia in March 2014. The reason: it was discovered that all metclub actually the exact same code and someone leaked the code so that the non-metclub people buy tickets.

Gern Blansten

Santos L. Halper said:

Scalper will be identified and dealt with. Please forward any scalper info to: santos_l_halper@tenclub.net
slh

awesome

MayDay10

dimitrispearljam said:

Can't duplicate low numbers. Can duplicate ga chances.

And I'm not advocating f5 in any way

You cant list anywhere ga tix for sale..every knows is 10c..so u could easily reported to 10c

Yes. But it's a lot harder or impossible to replace a good fan club number. If someone who recently joined or is using fluff memberships and taking advantage is caught, they can still go to the end of the line and still specify they want the best seats and really haven't lost anything.

And I'm sure there are plenty of ways to sell ga tickets other than waiving a flag like an idiot on Craigs list.