The cool thing about discogs is also that you can keep track of your collection, and set up something like your own personal database. You can look up what exactly you have, and find out if you have an original or just a bootleg for example.
Please, Pearl Jam, consider a Benaroya Hall vinyl reissue!
I'm a discogs fan as well have used it many times. Great site. I didn't realize Veddertown was responding to Spags and though he was referring to some part of discogs I didn't know about.
The cool thing about discogs is also that you can keep track of your collection, and set up something like your own personal database. You can look up what exactly you have, and find out if you have an original or just a bootleg for example.
This is one of the many reasons I love that site.
10/31/93 Berkeley (Baba!) • 10/1/94 Bridge School • 9/16/96 Seattle (In My Tree!) • 10/19/96 & 10/20/96 B. School (Alt Corduroy & Alt Porch!) • 10/25/03 B. School • 6/1/03 Mtnview (Crazy Mary! You Are!) • 11/29/13 Portland (All Those Yesterdays! Even Flow!) • 10/25/14 Bridge School (Rain! Fuckin Up! TOTD!) • 5/13/22 Oakland (had to leave early, but W.M.A.! Immortality!) • 5/13/24 Sacramento (Light Years! Picture in a Frame!) • 5/25/24 Bottle Rock (Last Kiss! Maybe It’s Time w/Bradley Cooper!)
Know what would sell me on a bootleg? Turning a double LP into a single. I'd love to have Binaural, riot act, and avocado on just one disc.
Why? Pop in the cd, it'll sound way better. Vinyl record can hold about 22 minutes per side without the quality suffering too much.
I consider this a vinyl myth when you're talking about normal length LPs. I have loads of albums that sound phenomenal on one disc and better than many of the albums that I have on two. I think this whole 2 LP stuff is just a marketing ploy and a way to drag up the average process of vinyl. They've kind of brainwashed people into thinking a 2 LP album is superior to one LP when in fact quality control is the real factor on both formats. Yes, I fully understand all arguments for doing it. I'm not really buying it because my own vinyl collection and ears tell me differently.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Know what would sell me on a bootleg? Turning a double LP into a single. I'd love to have Binaural, riot act, and avocado on just one disc.
Why? Pop in the cd, it'll sound way better. Vinyl record can hold about 22 minutes per side without the quality suffering too much.
I consider this a vinyl myth when you're talking about normal length LPs. I have loads of albums that sound phenomenal on one disc and better than many of the albums that I have on two. I think this whole 2 LP stuff is just a marketing ploy and a way to drag up the average process of vinyl. They've kind of brainwashed people into thinking a 2 LP album is superior to one LP when in fact quality control is the real factor on both formats. Yes, I fully understand all arguments for doing it. I'm not really buying it because my own vinyl collection and ears tell me differently.
If anyone buys one of these let us know if they are cool
In case anyone is interested, I did pick on up a while ago - a blue 2 LP Avocado. It was £28 (about $47?).
To be honest, I thought the outer packaging was a bit shonky donkey! Initially it looks nice - super glossy. But if you look at the print, it's rubbish. Looks like a bad scan of the original - all the ink dots are really visible which is what always happens when you scan a colour image on an average scanner. In particular, its pretty bad on the inside with the band's faces. It's also not a great fit - it's cut a bit short, by a couple of mm, so the white sleeve sticks out a little. The card is also warped because of the gloss seal on top.
The booklet looks okay. Nice paper stock, but the scanned images aren't reproduced very well. I think the print is really nice, but the scanning is not, so it's wasted. Shame.
The blue discs do look lovely, really bright and the print is okay.
They play nice, sound great. Not sure they sound and better the the CD though. Kind of okay. But it doesn't give be a feeling of excitement like my other PJ vinyls do.
Overall, its just a boot. It clearly looks like a bootleg. I was curious to see what it was like. If someone had shown it to me, I really don't think I would have purchased it. It's on my shelf but I doubt I'll look at it agin!
I'm about 2,700 entries into my having my whole collection on discogs with probably another 1,500 or 2,000 to go. I also have the discollector app linked to discogs for quick reference so I don't buy stuff I already have.
Yeah, I'm going to try logging all my stuff on discogs one of these days too... maybe in the winter. Definitely helpful for insurance purposes, and once a collection gets to a certain point, probably useful just for deciding on what to play! Guydudebro, that is some collection! Holy shit, how long is fhat going to take you?? You've definitely inspired me to enter my collection before it grows anymore.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
It takes awhile but once you get onto a groove it goes pretty quick. A lot of different pressing of the same titles etc. 34 years worth of collecting.The discollector app is a total life saver for me. I highly recommend that.
Glad to hear about Discollector- been needing something that would interface with my discogs account. I have <100 discs, but my wantlist is growing all the time lol
10/31/93 Berkeley (Baba!) • 10/1/94 Bridge School • 9/16/96 Seattle (In My Tree!) • 10/19/96 & 10/20/96 B. School (Alt Corduroy & Alt Porch!) • 10/25/03 B. School • 6/1/03 Mtnview (Crazy Mary! You Are!) • 11/29/13 Portland (All Those Yesterdays! Even Flow!) • 10/25/14 Bridge School (Rain! Fuckin Up! TOTD!) • 5/13/22 Oakland (had to leave early, but W.M.A.! Immortality!) • 5/13/24 Sacramento (Light Years! Picture in a Frame!) • 5/25/24 Bottle Rock (Last Kiss! Maybe It’s Time w/Bradley Cooper!)
Glad to hear about Discollector- been needing something that would interface with my discogs account. I have <100 discs, but my wantlist is growing all the time lol</p>
I really like the want list. You can set it up to send off an email whenever someone submits an LP for sale. Great for finding that Grail or hard to find record.
Avocado arrived from Germany today. Just to confirm a few things most of you already know.
The jacket seems like it has been made very marginally small (the white sleeves are just visible when closed and it's a slight squeeze when the booklet is enclosed because the quality of card that is used warps a little.
The booklet looks amazing and is really good heavy quality like you come to expect from a regular release.
The jacket colour is a different shade of blue to the original and the pixelation although noticable is nothing major to complain about if you are picking up one of these at the same price as I did (around regular new release price).
As for the vinyl, I've not owned the original and I'm more likely to ever own a re-release than spend £200 on one so if this was to sound inferior to the CD I would have waited for PJ to release it again. It doesn't and I will still buy any eventual re-release. What I need is someone who owns an original to hear and review this so I can see if what I'm hearing is indeed correct but to me this sounds really stunning on vinyl and I'm really glad I bought this. I listened to it through headphones, something I have done many times on many different systems in CD, mp3, etc and tonight a bootleg vinyl copy on a pretty cheap deck through £40 Sony headphones sounded really special. Plus the blue marble is beautiful.
The guitars on the heavier songs sounded crunchier and the subtleties on the quieter songs, particularly the keys were far more dynamic. Inside Job and Severed Hand stood out a lot more than usual for me plus songs like Army Reserve, Marker In The Sand and Unemployable that sometimes make this album a bit middle of the road for me sounded really fresh compared with my normal experience with this album.
Anyone having any doubts about this not being worth spending the relatively small amount they are becoming available for shouldn't be worried about not getting a really decent stopgap copy and surely you could buy a re-release and keep it sealed and just use this instead? The only issue with this album that I see is a moral one that people seem very divided over but I'm happy with my purchase and don't feel any guilt about it whatsoever. Here's some photos:
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Like a book among the many on a shelf...
Dublin 02 Arena - 22/6/10. Belfast Odyssey Arena - 23/6/10. London Hyde Park - 25/6/10. Berlin Wuhlheide - 30/6/10.
Manchester MEN - 20/06/12. Manchester MEN - 21/06/12
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I think that Avocado has the best album artwork. No Code is clearly an amazing package, and LB is pretty sweet too, but I love the total fucking weirdness of the artwork on S/T.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I think that Avocado has the best album artwork. No Code is clearly an amazing package, and LB is pretty sweet too, but I love the total fucking weirdness of the artwork on S/T.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I think that Avocado has the best album artwork. No Code is clearly an amazing package, and LB is pretty sweet too, but I love the total fucking weirdness of the artwork on S/T.
:-/ Why?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
I think that Avocado has the best album artwork. No Code is clearly an amazing package, and LB is pretty sweet too, but I love the total fucking weirdness of the artwork on S/T.
I agree with PJ Soul on the loving of total fucking weirdness of the artwork. :x
I think that Avocado has the best album artwork. No Code is clearly an amazing package, and LB is pretty sweet too, but I love the total fucking weirdness of the artwork on S/T.
How about "Please stop posting Christina Aguilera clips..."
:-?
I'm a Thief, I'm a Liar, There's my Church, I sing in the Choir...Hallelujah...
I got mine today. It looks really sharp and sounds pretty good too. I don't have a comparison when it comes to the cover, but yeah it looks maybe a little darker than in the pics I have seen of the original. The booklet makes a very good impression. I am very happy with my purchase
Please, Pearl Jam, consider a Benaroya Hall vinyl reissue!
I got mine today. It looks really sharp and sounds pretty good too. I don't have a comparison when it comes to the cover, but yeah it looks maybe a little darker than in the pics I have seen of the original. The booklet makes a very good impression. I am very happy with my purchase
:-bd
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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To be honest, I thought the outer packaging was a bit shonky donkey! Initially it looks nice - super glossy. But if you look at the print, it's rubbish. Looks like a bad scan of the original - all the ink dots are really visible which is what always happens when you scan a colour image on an average scanner. In particular, its pretty bad on the inside with the band's faces. It's also not a great fit - it's cut a bit short, by a couple of mm, so the white sleeve sticks out a little. The card is also warped because of the gloss seal on top.
The booklet looks okay. Nice paper stock, but the scanned images aren't reproduced very well. I think the print is really nice, but the scanning is not, so it's wasted. Shame.
The blue discs do look lovely, really bright and the print is okay.
They play nice, sound great. Not sure they sound and better the the CD though. Kind of okay. But it doesn't give be a feeling of excitement like my other PJ vinyls do.
Overall, its just a boot. It clearly looks like a bootleg. I was curious to see what it was like. If someone had shown it to me, I really don't think I would have purchased it. It's on my shelf but I doubt I'll look at it agin!
Still I like that it values it for you, pretty cool site.
The jacket seems like it has been made very marginally small (the white sleeves are just visible when closed and it's a slight squeeze when the booklet is enclosed because the quality of card that is used warps a little.
The booklet looks amazing and is really good heavy quality like you come to expect from a regular release.
The jacket colour is a different shade of blue to the original and the pixelation although noticable is nothing major to complain about if you are picking up one of these at the same price as I did (around regular new release price).
As for the vinyl, I've not owned the original and I'm more likely to ever own a re-release than spend £200 on one so if this was to sound inferior to the CD I would have waited for PJ to release it again. It doesn't and I will still buy any eventual re-release. What I need is someone who owns an original to hear and review this so I can see if what I'm hearing is indeed correct but to me this sounds really stunning on vinyl and I'm really glad I bought this. I listened to it through headphones, something I have done many times on many different systems in CD, mp3, etc and tonight a bootleg vinyl copy on a pretty cheap deck through £40 Sony headphones sounded really special. Plus the blue marble is beautiful.
The guitars on the heavier songs sounded crunchier and the subtleties on the quieter songs, particularly the keys were far more dynamic. Inside Job and Severed Hand stood out a lot more than usual for me plus songs like Army Reserve, Marker In The Sand and Unemployable that sometimes make this album a bit middle of the road for me sounded really fresh compared with my normal experience with this album.
Anyone having any doubts about this not being worth spending the relatively small amount they are becoming available for shouldn't be worried about not getting a really decent stopgap copy and surely you could buy a re-release and keep it sealed and just use this instead? The only issue with this album that I see is a moral one that people seem very divided over but I'm happy with my purchase and don't feel any guilt about it whatsoever. Here's some photos:
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Dublin 02 Arena - 22/6/10. Belfast Odyssey Arena - 23/6/10. London Hyde Park - 25/6/10. Berlin Wuhlheide - 30/6/10.
Manchester MEN - 20/06/12. Manchester MEN - 21/06/12
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Unimaginative bastards....
All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.