Blue Avocado?

JT_JamFan

PJ_Soul said:

Know what would sell me on a bootleg? Turning a double LP into a single. I'd love to have Binaural, riot act, and avocado on just one disc.

EXACTLY! One of the reasons I love vinyl is being able to put the record on and otherwise occupy myself for about 23 minutes before I have to flip it. With reissues being made on 2 discs (talking to you, Vitalogy) you get about 10 to 13 minutes before its time to turn it over. I have an older, scratchy version of Vitalogy on single disc and even with the surface noise I prefer to listen to it over pulling out the two disc reissue and flipping it twice as often.

foodshop65

Ukelele Songs is out on white as well
the green looks cool too

Spags

Hope I can find a Self Titled in Berlin this Summer!

willbarclay

If there are only 2000 original and you have a chance to get a bootleg version... Why not ??

aurynsdad

For me the biggest thing is audio quality. I haven't had a chance to listen to my original avo vinyl yet, and I have to admit my expectations are not that high based on what I heard. However, it was still professionally mastered for vinyl, at least in some regard. The way I see it, there are three possibilities with these counterfeits:

1- They are mastered from the CD
2- They are mastered from the original vinyl
3- They are silicone mold urethane copies from an original vinyl

If it's number one, there are probably some audio issues simply because vinyl requires the cutting engineer to make certain changes. Number two would seem to be the best case scenario, provided it was done with really good equipment. Number three could also be pretty great, but I've heard that a urethane copy does not have exactly the same fidelity as a vinyl original. If I didn't have a hope of finding an original copy, I'd probably be interested in numbers two and three, but I really don't see the point of a vinyl made from a CD.

veddertown

Spags said:

Hope I can find a Self Titled in Berlin this Summer!

Just keep an eye on Discogs Spags. Mine was dispatched from Germany today for a total cost of under £30! Even less for Yield. I can't justify paying what people are paying for the originals and I'll still buy any reissues the band put out. These must be worth the small amount I paid for them ignoring any moral issues. This is the alternative some of us have been looking for. Now bring on No Code, Binaural and Riot Act. I'd buy them without hesitation too as I would have to pay £350-400 for them all on ebay.

Karojo820673

veddertown said:

Spags said:

Hope I can find a Self Titled in Berlin this Summer!

Just keep an eye on Discogs Spags. Mine was dispatched from Germany today for a total cost of under £30! Even less for Yield. I can't justify paying what people are paying for the originals and I'll still buy any reissues the band put out. These must be worth the small amount I paid for them ignoring any moral issues. This is the alternative some of us have been looking for. Now bring on No Code, Binaural and Riot Act. I'd buy them without hesitation too as I would have to pay £350-400 for them all on ebay.

I haven't heard of discogs spags. Can you elaborate ?

demetrios

foodshop65 said:

Ukelele Songs is out on white as well
the green looks cool too

How many colors are there? I've seen a green & orange weeks back.

Would love a marble green Benny! :bz

veddertown

Karojo820673 said:

veddertown said:

Spags said:

Hope I can find a Self Titled in Berlin this Summer!

Just keep an eye on Discogs Spags. Mine was dispatched from Germany today for a total cost of under £30! Even less for Yield. I can't justify paying what people are paying for the originals and I'll still buy any reissues the band put out. These must be worth the small amount I paid for them ignoring any moral issues. This is the alternative some of us have been looking for. Now bring on No Code, Binaural and Riot Act. I'd buy them without hesitation too as I would have to pay £350-400 for them all on ebay.

I haven't heard of discogs spags. Can you elaborate ?

Spags was just the contributor to the post before mine. Discogs is a website for music collectors. They have official and bootleg releases from all over the world. A better site for Europeans due to shipping costs but it depends what you're after. A bootleg blue Avocado shipped anywhere in the world isn't going to cost you $300 or even close to half of that.

Karojo820673

Gotcha my bad. I've heard of discogs. Thanks for the explanation

Spags

I may have to set up my own records trading website

Leezestarr313

The cool thing about discogs is also that you can keep track of your collection, and set up something like your own personal database. You can look up what exactly you have, and find out if you have an original or just a bootleg for example.

MedozK

Love Discogs. First thing I do with every music purchase is log it in to my collection.

RedMosquito02

MedozK said:

Love Discogs. First thing I do with every music purchase is log it in to my collection.

Same here
:-bd

Karojo820673

I'm a discogs fan as well have used it many times. Great site. I didn't realize Veddertown was responding to Spags and though he was referring to some part of discogs I didn't know about.

aurynsdad

Leezestarr313 said:

The cool thing about discogs is also that you can keep track of your collection, and set up something like your own personal database. You can look up what exactly you have, and find out if you have an original or just a bootleg for example.

This is one of the many reasons I love that site.

PJ_Soul

mrk2 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Know what would sell me on a bootleg? Turning a double LP into a single. I'd love to have Binaural, riot act, and avocado on just one disc.

Why? Pop in the cd, it'll sound way better. Vinyl record can hold about 22 minutes per side without the quality suffering too much.

I consider this a vinyl myth when you're talking about normal length LPs. I have loads of albums that sound phenomenal on one disc and better than many of the albums that I have on two. I think this whole 2 LP stuff is just a marketing ploy and a way to drag up the average process of vinyl. They've kind of brainwashed people into thinking a 2 LP album is superior to one LP when in fact quality control is the real factor on both formats. Yes, I fully understand all arguments for doing it. I'm not really buying it because my own vinyl collection and ears tell me differently.

MedozK

PJ_Soul said:

mrk2 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Know what would sell me on a bootleg? Turning a double LP into a single. I'd love to have Binaural, riot act, and avocado on just one disc.

Why? Pop in the cd, it'll sound way better. Vinyl record can hold about 22 minutes per side without the quality suffering too much.

I consider this a vinyl myth when you're talking about normal length LPs. I have loads of albums that sound phenomenal on one disc and better than many of the albums that I have on two. I think this whole 2 LP stuff is just a marketing ploy and a way to drag up the average process of vinyl. They've kind of brainwashed people into thinking a 2 LP album is superior to one LP when in fact quality control is the real factor on both formats. Yes, I fully understand all arguments for doing it. I'm not really buying it because my own vinyl collection and ears tell me differently.

Nice 17,000th post.

Porch Dweller

We need an avocado colored avocado release

weeble

Karojo820673 said:

If anyone buys one of these let us know if they are cool

In case anyone is interested, I did pick on up a while ago - a blue 2 LP Avocado. It was £28 (about $47?).

To be honest, I thought the outer packaging was a bit shonky donkey! Initially it looks nice - super glossy. But if you look at the print, it's rubbish. Looks like a bad scan of the original - all the ink dots are really visible which is what always happens when you scan a colour image on an average scanner. In particular, its pretty bad on the inside with the band's faces. It's also not a great fit - it's cut a bit short, by a couple of mm, so the white sleeve sticks out a little. The card is also warped because of the gloss seal on top.

The booklet looks okay. Nice paper stock, but the scanned images aren't reproduced very well. I think the print is really nice, but the scanning is not, so it's wasted. Shame.

The blue discs do look lovely, really bright and the print is okay.

They play nice, sound great. Not sure they sound and better the the CD though. Kind of okay. But it doesn't give be a feeling of excitement like my other PJ vinyls do.

Overall, its just a boot. It clearly looks like a bootleg. I was curious to see what it was like. If someone had shown it to me, I really don't think I would have purchased it. It's on my shelf but I doubt I'll look at it agin!