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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    On a side note, f' the PPA. Just paid a ticket for parking in the middle of Washington at the Italian market. It ain't right.
  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530

    JK_Livin said:

    Goose Island IPA still tastes good. I think AB is using a hands off approach for the microbreweries they're buying. Haven't made it to the Fillmore yet. Any of you?

    Eh, it's alright I guess - I mean I'll take almost anything in pale ale form. I just see this as AB in Goose Island clothing trying to capitalize on something based on a formula. Anyway, I have no reason to go all the way up there to give my money to Bud when we're loaded with so many better options.

    JK_Livin said:

    Goose Island IPA still tastes good. I think AB is using a hands off approach for the microbreweries they're buying. Haven't made it to the Fillmore yet. Any of you?

    Yeah, it's awesome. The best mid-sized venue in the city by a mile.
    Really? Looking forward to checking it out in November then.

    If I'm ranking Philly venues (and I'm killing time at work) I go:

    1. Boot & Saddle
    2. Johnny Brenda's
    3. Tower
    4. Union Transfer
    5. TLA
    6. World Cafe
    7. Troc
    8. Connie's Ric-Rac
    9. Milkboy
    10. The Fire
    11. Barbary
    12. Mann
    13. Wells Fargo
    14. Camden/E-Center/Whatever
    999,999,999,999. Electric Factory

    Haven't been to Underground Arts or Fillmore yet; gotta get there. Honorable Mention to the First Unitarian Church based on older shows, haven't been there in ages.
    So I guess I when I say mid-sized venue I am thinking more along the lines of Tower, TLA, Troc, Electric Factory, etc. Those smaller spots are obviously awesome, but you're with a couple hundred people versus a couple thousand.

    Fillmore is really cool. Has an awesome atmosphere, it looks really cool, the stage is high, which is awesome for a GA venue, sound is good. I also really like being able to hang out in back and see/hear. Fillmore is perfect for that. Electric Factory is the worst. Unless you get there an hour before the show, you can't see dick.

    I don't think the church does shows anymore, right? I love that place. So random.

    Dafuq is The Fire?!
    Fire is like Boot & Saddle/North Star-ish, but smaller. I dunno, I've seen a few random bands there. I know they closed down for a bit. Which, by the way, I wish North Star was still open - loved that place.

    Yeah, no, I hear ya on the mid-size place, but it got me thinking. Fillmore sounds a lot like Union Transfer, which I love.

    On a side note, f' the PPA. Just paid a ticket for parking in the middle of Washington at the Italian market. It ain't right.

    Sorry, Cliff, no mercy on this one. I want parking gone from the middle Broad, so that sounds like the same deal. Hopefully with all this diddling going on in the PPA, though, that it changes - it doesn't make an ounce of sense that they're run by the state, aren't open to routine audits, and dictate how taxis/Uber/Lyft operate in the city. In that sense they are idiots.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026

    JK_Livin said:

    Goose Island IPA still tastes good. I think AB is using a hands off approach for the microbreweries they're buying. Haven't made it to the Fillmore yet. Any of you?

    Eh, it's alright I guess - I mean I'll take almost anything in pale ale form. I just see this as AB in Goose Island clothing trying to capitalize on something based on a formula. Anyway, I have no reason to go all the way up there to give my money to Bud when we're loaded with so many better options.

    JK_Livin said:

    Goose Island IPA still tastes good. I think AB is using a hands off approach for the microbreweries they're buying. Haven't made it to the Fillmore yet. Any of you?

    Yeah, it's awesome. The best mid-sized venue in the city by a mile.
    Really? Looking forward to checking it out in November then.

    If I'm ranking Philly venues (and I'm killing time at work) I go:

    1. Boot & Saddle
    2. Johnny Brenda's
    3. Tower
    4. Union Transfer
    5. TLA
    6. World Cafe
    7. Troc
    8. Connie's Ric-Rac
    9. Milkboy
    10. The Fire
    11. Barbary
    12. Mann
    13. Wells Fargo
    14. Camden/E-Center/Whatever
    999,999,999,999. Electric Factory

    Haven't been to Underground Arts or Fillmore yet; gotta get there. Honorable Mention to the First Unitarian Church based on older shows, haven't been there in ages.
    So I guess I when I say mid-sized venue I am thinking more along the lines of Tower, TLA, Troc, Electric Factory, etc. Those smaller spots are obviously awesome, but you're with a couple hundred people versus a couple thousand.

    Fillmore is really cool. Has an awesome atmosphere, it looks really cool, the stage is high, which is awesome for a GA venue, sound is good. I also really like being able to hang out in back and see/hear. Fillmore is perfect for that. Electric Factory is the worst. Unless you get there an hour before the show, you can't see dick.

    I don't think the church does shows anymore, right? I love that place. So random.

    Dafuq is The Fire?!
    Fire is like Boot & Saddle/North Star-ish, but smaller. I dunno, I've seen a few random bands there. I know they closed down for a bit. Which, by the way, I wish North Star was still open - loved that place.

    Yeah, no, I hear ya on the mid-size place, but it got me thinking. Fillmore sounds a lot like Union Transfer, which I love.

    On a side note, f' the PPA. Just paid a ticket for parking in the middle of Washington at the Italian market. It ain't right.

    Sorry, Cliff, no mercy on this one. I want parking gone from the middle Broad, so that sounds like the same deal. Hopefully with all this diddling going on in the PPA, though, that it changes - it doesn't make an ounce of sense that they're run by the state, aren't open to routine audits, and dictate how taxis/Uber/Lyft operate in the city. In that sense they are idiots.
    Ah, word. I never made it to North Star. Have had a good time at Kybher though (before it is what it is now). Though still cool. I think I'll be going to that show too, just gonna get tickets closer to.

    Nah, dude, what they hell is the problem with parking in middle? Who does it harm as long as you aren't blocking a turning lane? Why the hell does Washington Ave need a full lane in the middle for nothing? I'm at the Italian Market for 20 minutes stopping at the butcher and produce stands, why they hell I gotta drive around the block 4 times looking for parking dealing with all the Jersey numbnuts (Sorry JK) going to brunch?!
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    I guess I have irrationally avoided Goose Island since learning AB owns it. But I've always enjoyed their beers and have heard AB is actually pretty hands off. Perhaps it's time to give them another shot.
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,193
    edited October 2016

    JK_Livin said:

    Goose Island IPA still tastes good. I think AB is using a hands off approach for the microbreweries they're buying. Haven't made it to the Fillmore yet. Any of you?

    Eh, it's alright I guess - I mean I'll take almost anything in pale ale form. I just see this as AB in Goose Island clothing trying to capitalize on something based on a formula. Anyway, I have no reason to go all the way up there to give my money to Bud when we're loaded with so many better options.

    JK_Livin said:

    Goose Island IPA still tastes good. I think AB is using a hands off approach for the microbreweries they're buying. Haven't made it to the Fillmore yet. Any of you?

    Yeah, it's awesome. The best mid-sized venue in the city by a mile.
    Really? Looking forward to checking it out in November then.

    If I'm ranking Philly venues (and I'm killing time at work) I go:

    1. Boot & Saddle
    2. Johnny Brenda's
    3. Tower
    4. Union Transfer
    5. TLA
    6. World Cafe
    7. Troc
    8. Connie's Ric-Rac
    9. Milkboy
    10. The Fire
    11. Barbary
    12. Mann
    13. Wells Fargo
    14. Camden/E-Center/Whatever
    999,999,999,999. Electric Factory

    Haven't been to Underground Arts or Fillmore yet; gotta get there. Honorable Mention to the First Unitarian Church based on older shows, haven't been there in ages.
    So I guess I when I say mid-sized venue I am thinking more along the lines of Tower, TLA, Troc, Electric Factory, etc. Those smaller spots are obviously awesome, but you're with a couple hundred people versus a couple thousand.

    Fillmore is really cool. Has an awesome atmosphere, it looks really cool, the stage is high, which is awesome for a GA venue, sound is good. I also really like being able to hang out in back and see/hear. Fillmore is perfect for that. Electric Factory is the worst. Unless you get there an hour before the show, you can't see dick.

    I don't think the church does shows anymore, right? I love that place. So random.

    Dafuq is The Fire?!
    yeah fillmore is great! First Unitarian Church still does shows (not that many though). Never heard of Connie RicRac. Barabry and Fire i've heard of but never been to.

    Here's my list

    1. Union Transfer
    2. Tower Theater
    3. Fillmore
    4. Johnny Brenda's
    5. Mann Center
    6. World Cafe Live
    7. Trocadero
    8. Boot & Saddle (only been there once but dug it)
    9. TLA (sound has gotten bad there, IMO)
    10. Underground Arts
    11. First Unitarian Church
    12. Kung Fu Necktie
    13. Milkboy (only been there once, only problem i had with it was the location)
    14. Wells Fargo Center
    15. Penn's Landing
    16. Electric Factory (used to be my favorite venue about 10 years ago)
    17. Blockbuster/Tweeter/Susquehanna/BB&T place in Camden

    RIP: Northstar Bar and The Khyber
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    edited October 2016

    JK_Livin said:

    Goose Island IPA still tastes good. I think AB is using a hands off approach for the microbreweries they're buying. Haven't made it to the Fillmore yet. Any of you?

    Eh, it's alright I guess - I mean I'll take almost anything in pale ale form. I just see this as AB in Goose Island clothing trying to capitalize on something based on a formula. Anyway, I have no reason to go all the way up there to give my money to Bud when we're loaded with so many better options.

    JK_Livin said:

    Goose Island IPA still tastes good. I think AB is using a hands off approach for the microbreweries they're buying. Haven't made it to the Fillmore yet. Any of you?

    Yeah, it's awesome. The best mid-sized venue in the city by a mile.
    Really? Looking forward to checking it out in November then.

    If I'm ranking Philly venues (and I'm killing time at work) I go:

    1. Boot & Saddle
    2. Johnny Brenda's
    3. Tower
    4. Union Transfer
    5. TLA
    6. World Cafe
    7. Troc
    8. Connie's Ric-Rac
    9. Milkboy
    10. The Fire
    11. Barbary
    12. Mann
    13. Wells Fargo
    14. Camden/E-Center/Whatever
    999,999,999,999. Electric Factory

    Haven't been to Underground Arts or Fillmore yet; gotta get there. Honorable Mention to the First Unitarian Church based on older shows, haven't been there in ages.
    So I guess I when I say mid-sized venue I am thinking more along the lines of Tower, TLA, Troc, Electric Factory, etc. Those smaller spots are obviously awesome, but you're with a couple hundred people versus a couple thousand.

    Fillmore is really cool. Has an awesome atmosphere, it looks really cool, the stage is high, which is awesome for a GA venue, sound is good. I also really like being able to hang out in back and see/hear. Fillmore is perfect for that. Electric Factory is the worst. Unless you get there an hour before the show, you can't see dick.

    I don't think the church does shows anymore, right? I love that place. So random.

    Dafuq is The Fire?!
    yeah fillmore is great! First Unitarian Church still does shows (not that many though). Never heard of Connie RicRac. Barabry and Fire i've heard of but never been to.

    Here's my list

    1. Union Transfer
    2. Tower Theater
    3. Fillmore
    4. Johnny Brenda's
    5. Mann Center
    6. World Cafe Live
    7. Trocadero
    8. Boot & Saddle (only been there once but dug it)
    9. TLA (sound has gotten bad there, IMO)
    10. Underground Arts
    11. First Unitarian Church
    12. Kung Fu Necktie
    13. Milkboy (only been there once, only problem i had with it was the location)
    14. Wells Fargo Center
    15. Penn's Landing
    16. Electric Factory (used to be my favorite venue about 10 years ago)
    17. Blockbuster/Tweeter/Susquehanna/BB&T place in Camden

    RIP: Northstar Bar and The Khyber
    Forgot about Kung Fu - saw an absolutely awful metal band there that made my ears, and eyes, bleed; and Penn's Landing - are we talking Penn's Landing Penn's Landing, or Festival Pier? I have....shall we say fond memories of Festival Pier. What I'm saying is I got stuck on top of those tall pointy fence posts down there sneaking backstage to a Flogging Molly show. Have your imagination do what it wishes as to a man, and his crotch, being stuck on top of a very tall, very pointy fence.
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,193

    JK_Livin said:

    Goose Island IPA still tastes good. I think AB is using a hands off approach for the microbreweries they're buying. Haven't made it to the Fillmore yet. Any of you?

    Eh, it's alright I guess - I mean I'll take almost anything in pale ale form. I just see this as AB in Goose Island clothing trying to capitalize on something based on a formula. Anyway, I have no reason to go all the way up there to give my money to Bud when we're loaded with so many better options.

    JK_Livin said:

    Goose Island IPA still tastes good. I think AB is using a hands off approach for the microbreweries they're buying. Haven't made it to the Fillmore yet. Any of you?

    Yeah, it's awesome. The best mid-sized venue in the city by a mile.
    Really? Looking forward to checking it out in November then.

    If I'm ranking Philly venues (and I'm killing time at work) I go:

    1. Boot & Saddle
    2. Johnny Brenda's
    3. Tower
    4. Union Transfer
    5. TLA
    6. World Cafe
    7. Troc
    8. Connie's Ric-Rac
    9. Milkboy
    10. The Fire
    11. Barbary
    12. Mann
    13. Wells Fargo
    14. Camden/E-Center/Whatever
    999,999,999,999. Electric Factory

    Haven't been to Underground Arts or Fillmore yet; gotta get there. Honorable Mention to the First Unitarian Church based on older shows, haven't been there in ages.
    So I guess I when I say mid-sized venue I am thinking more along the lines of Tower, TLA, Troc, Electric Factory, etc. Those smaller spots are obviously awesome, but you're with a couple hundred people versus a couple thousand.

    Fillmore is really cool. Has an awesome atmosphere, it looks really cool, the stage is high, which is awesome for a GA venue, sound is good. I also really like being able to hang out in back and see/hear. Fillmore is perfect for that. Electric Factory is the worst. Unless you get there an hour before the show, you can't see dick.

    I don't think the church does shows anymore, right? I love that place. So random.

    Dafuq is The Fire?!
    yeah fillmore is great! First Unitarian Church still does shows (not that many though). Never heard of Connie RicRac. Barabry and Fire i've heard of but never been to.

    Here's my list

    1. Union Transfer
    2. Tower Theater
    3. Fillmore
    4. Johnny Brenda's
    5. Mann Center
    6. World Cafe Live
    7. Trocadero
    8. Boot & Saddle (only been there once but dug it)
    9. TLA (sound has gotten bad there, IMO)
    10. Underground Arts
    11. First Unitarian Church
    12. Kung Fu Necktie
    13. Milkboy (only been there once, only problem i had with it was the location)
    14. Wells Fargo Center
    15. Penn's Landing
    16. Electric Factory (used to be my favorite venue about 10 years ago)
    17. Blockbuster/Tweeter/Susquehanna/BB&T place in Camden

    RIP: Northstar Bar and The Khyber
    Forgot about Kung Fu - saw an absolutely awful metal band there that made my ears, and eyes, bleed; and Penn's Landing - are we talking Penn's Landing Penn's Landing, or Festival Pier? I have....shall we say fond memories of Festival Pier. What I'm saying is I got stuck on top of those tall pointy fence posts down there sneaking backstage to a Flogging Molly show. Have your imagination do what it wishes as to a man, and his crotch, being stuck on top of a very tall, very pointy fence.
    oh yeah forgot about festival pier. was mainly thinking Penn's Landing (that's the bigger one right?)
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,811
    Mrs FMe and I met some friends @ ZAMA last night for a nice sushi/sake extravaganza. Went in at 7...walked through the park on the way to ZAMA from the train. Noted how many fucking derelicts were out with the warmer weather.
    Came out of the restaurant at 10:00 and saw Action News trucks at the end of 19th/on the park. Asked someone what happened and they told us. Pretty crazy.
    philly.com/philly/news/20161019_Man_shot_trying_to_stop_a_stickup_in_Rittenhouse_Square.html
    (Went to Mission Taqueria for a few tasty tequila drinks after.)
    Good night out in Philly but the animals are taking this place over.

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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    edited October 2016

    Mrs FMe and I met some friends @ ZAMA last night for a nice sushi/sake extravaganza. Went in at 7...walked through the park on the way to ZAMA from the train. Noted how many fucking derelicts were out with the warmer weather.
    Came out of the restaurant at 10:00 and saw Action News trucks at the end of 19th/on the park. Asked someone what happened and they told us. Pretty crazy.
    philly.com/philly/news/20161019_Man_shot_trying_to_stop_a_stickup_in_Rittenhouse_Square.html
    (Went to Mission Taqueria for a few tasty tequila drinks after.)
    Good night out in Philly but the animals are taking this place over.

    For one, Zama is awesome. Gotta get to Mission

    I saw this last night on Twitter. Pretty crazy. Nothing ever happens in Rittenhouse. Also my hood had SWAT all over it last night. Watched for about a half hour. Was boring...

    http://6abc.com/news/man-surrenders-to-police-in-south-philadelphia-barricade/1561526/

    Center City is fine. If anything they are just clearing it out like NY did with midtown and sending the problems elsewhere. Was just in Kenzington this morning...now good god on that...
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,811
    Yes, ZAMA is top notch for Philly sushi. 3 hours, many drinks, few bottles of sake, many rounds of ordering sashimi....the bill was pretty hefty for 4 of us.
    Mission is OK, my wife loves the drinks there.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026

    Yes, ZAMA is top notch for Philly sushi. 3 hours, many drinks, few bottles of sake, many rounds of ordering sashimi....the bill was pretty hefty for 4 of us.
    Mission is OK, my wife loves the drinks there.

    Nice. That's awesome. My office is block away so whenever we have reps take us out, it's often Zama...it does add up.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    edited October 2016

    Mrs FMe and I met some friends @ ZAMA last night for a nice sushi/sake extravaganza. Went in at 7...walked through the park on the way to ZAMA from the train. Noted how many fucking derelicts were out with the warmer weather.
    Came out of the restaurant at 10:00 and saw Action News trucks at the end of 19th/on the park. Asked someone what happened and they told us. Pretty crazy.
    philly.com/philly/news/20161019_Man_shot_trying_to_stop_a_stickup_in_Rittenhouse_Square.html
    (Went to Mission Taqueria for a few tasty tequila drinks after.)
    Good night out in Philly but the animals are taking this place over.

    For one, Zama is awesome. Gotta get to Mission

    I saw this last night on Twitter. Pretty crazy. Nothing ever happens in Rittenhouse. Also my hood had SWAT all over it last night. Watched for about a half hour. Was boring...

    http://6abc.com/news/man-surrenders-to-police-in-south-philadelphia-barricade/1561526/

    Center City is fine. If anything they are just clearing it out like NY did with midtown and sending the problems elsewhere. Was just in Kenzington this morning...now good god on that...
    Haha, so that's what that chopper was for? I thought the Flyers were home or there was a concert or something.
    Post edited by Jearlpam0925 on
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    edited October 2016

    Mrs FMe and I met some friends @ ZAMA last night for a nice sushi/sake extravaganza. Went in at 7...walked through the park on the way to ZAMA from the train. Noted how many fucking derelicts were out with the warmer weather.
    Came out of the restaurant at 10:00 and saw Action News trucks at the end of 19th/on the park. Asked someone what happened and they told us. Pretty crazy.
    philly.com/philly/news/20161019_Man_shot_trying_to_stop_a_stickup_in_Rittenhouse_Square.html
    (Went to Mission Taqueria for a few tasty tequila drinks after.)
    Good night out in Philly but the animals are taking this place over.

    For one, Zama is awesome. Gotta get to Mission

    I saw this last night on Twitter. Pretty crazy. Nothing ever happens in Rittenhouse. Also my hood had SWAT all over it last night. Watched for about a half hour. Was boring...

    http://6abc.com/news/man-surrenders-to-police-in-south-philadelphia-barricade/1561526/

    Center City is fine. If anything they are just clearing it out like NY did with midtown and sending the problems elsewhere. Was just in Kenzington this morning...now good god on that...
    Haha, so that's what that chopper was for? I thought the Flyers were home or there was a concert or something.
    Yeah, dude. There were a few choppers. It was rather boring though, which I guess is a good thing. I was ready for excitement.
  • lizabelle1217
    lizabelle1217 Central Jersey Posts: 222
    So, anyone else think that maybe Howard will end up in Boston as their DH now that Ortiz has retired...?
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,273
    F'me took me to Zama and it was top fucking notch. F'me and cliffy are top notch, too. juggler avoided me :angry:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • F Me In The Brain
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    That's only because we told him what you were like in person, Wob. (Jk, I had a blast with you in Philly...all three nights)

    Howard would be a good fit in Boston.

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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Wobbie said:

    F'me took me to Zama and it was top fucking notch. F'me and cliffy are top notch, too. juggler avoided me :angry:

    You don't strike me as a sushi guy. Regardless, good times...
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Yo, ya bastards, anyone know if Liacouras Center sells booze for concerts or non NCAA sporting events? I had a suite once for a Temple game and we had beer but that may have been just because it was through people who work there...
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912

    Yo, ya bastards, anyone know if Liacouras Center sells booze for concerts or non NCAA sporting events? I had a suite once for a Temple game and we had beer but that may have been just because it was through people who work there...

    saw the Counting Crows there and have seen a bunch of Temple BBall games and they have always sold beer for those events.