By the way, can it also play MP3/WAV format? Or only FLAC in this new Pono-format?
Yes, you can and it will probably sound better on the PonoPlayer than you've ever heard it.
The PonoPlayer is designed to play PonoMusic with stunning clarity. However, the player can play almost any kind of music track including FLAC, ALAC, mp3, WAV, AIFF, AAC (unprotected).
What this really means is the PonoPlayer can play all your digital music, and all of it will sound great.
By the way, can it also play MP3/WAV format? Or only FLAC in this new Pono-format?
Yes, you can and it will probably sound better on the PonoPlayer than you've ever heard it.
The PonoPlayer is designed to play PonoMusic with stunning clarity. However, the player can play almost any kind of music track including FLAC, ALAC, mp3, WAV, AIFF, AAC (unprotected).
What this really means is the PonoPlayer can play all your digital music, and all of it will sound great.
Should buy one... but man... it's just to much money for me. Even if it's future proof.
Guess I'll pick one up in a few years for a better price. even if it's not a PJ branded one.
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5K for dinner with Neil and 29 others makes me wish I was rich
Good on Neil for seeing his dream become reality. Now if he could only get Lincvolt happening he might just save the world
Question: Where's the Boss(Springsteen) on this? I'm surprised he's not on board but then again his Sirius station plays some really bad sounding live tracks...
A bit too steep for me, but I did get the Neil Young signed concert poster for $100.
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Question: Where's the Boss(Springsteen) on this? I'm surprised he's not on board but then again his Sirius station plays some really bad sounding live tracks...
He is on the video.
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I predict a Starbucks style re-education of consumers People will be willing to pay for better music quality (not that Starbucks is good quality, but we're now willing to pay more)
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Incredible that they reached their goal in one day! Way to go, Neil Young and PJ fans!
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Still trying to decide whether to do it.............
I know what you mean. I kept going back and forth on whether it'd be worth it for me since I already own MP3 players. I guess the biggest selling point is knowing that all file types can be used so even if I start slow with building a hi res library I know I can still add lower quality files that I have. So I don't have to break the bank right away.
I really want this. I remember seeing NY talk about it on Letterman and have been interested since. One problem is that I really should not be spending $300-$400 on anything right now, let alone something I really don't "need".
Also, I'm wresting with the whole "new format" thing. I love vinyl. That's where I spend my money on albums that I know are worth it. Am I now going to have decide between vinyl and Pono? Pono music looks to be very expensive (between 20-25 bucks an album). No way I'm spending $50 on average to have both the vinyl and digital format of a record. That leaves me in most cases to have to choose between the two and I just can't see myself abandoning physical for digital (no matter how good the digital may be).
Of course, I could take all my cd's and dump them on there, which would certainly be an improvement to the mp3 files I now have of them (though still lower quality than Pono versions) but I lost all my cd's in fucking Hurricane asshole Sandy. This can be solved by annoying the fuck out of my friends and going around to their houses to try to borrow cd's and reestablish my collection but it still doesn't solve the above problem of future buying.
I really want this. I remember seeing NY talk about it on Letterman and have been interested since. One problem is that I really should not be spending $300-$400 on anything right now, let alone something I really don't "need".
Also, I'm wresting with the whole "new format" thing. I love vinyl. That's where I spend my money on albums that I know are worth it. Am I now going to have decide between vinyl and Pono? Pono music looks to be very expensive (between 20-25 bucks an album). No way I'm spending $50 on average to have both the vinyl and digital format of a record. That leaves me in most cases to have to choose between the two and I just can't see myself abandoning physical for digital (no matter how good the digital may be).
Of course, I could take all my cd's and dump them on there, which would certainly be an improvement to the mp3 files I now have of them (though still lower quality than Pono versions) but I lost all my cd's in fucking Hurricane asshole Sandy. This can be solved by annoying the fuck out of my friends and going around to their houses to try to borrow cd's and reestablish my collection but it still doesn't solve the above problem of future buying.
Anyone else wrestling with this?
Yep! I would love to get one of these, but I know I don't really 'need' it. I love vinyl and will always prefer physical copies to digital music. My first choice would have been the Neil signature model but that's long gone. PJ would obviously have been my second choice but I just can't justify $400 right now no matter how cool it is.
I know I'll be kicking myself when they're all gone though...
“Do not postpone happiness”
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
I really want this. I remember seeing NY talk about it on Letterman and have been interested since. One problem is that I really should not be spending $300-$400 on anything right now, let alone something I really don't "need".
Also, I'm wresting with the whole "new format" thing. I love vinyl. That's where I spend my money on albums that I know are worth it. Am I now going to have decide between vinyl and Pono? Pono music looks to be very expensive (between 20-25 bucks an album). No way I'm spending $50 on average to have both the vinyl and digital format of a record. That leaves me in most cases to have to choose between the two and I just can't see myself abandoning physical for digital (no matter how good the digital may be).
Of course, I could take all my cd's and dump them on there, which would certainly be an improvement to the mp3 files I now have of them (though still lower quality than Pono versions) but I lost all my cd's in fucking Hurricane asshole Sandy. This can be solved by annoying the fuck out of my friends and going around to their houses to try to borrow cd's and reestablish my collection but it still doesn't solve the above problem of future buying.
Anyone else wrestling with this?
Yep! I would love to get one of these, but I know I don't really 'need' it. I love vinyl and will always prefer physical copies to digital music. My first choice would have been the Neil signature model but that's long gone. PJ would obviously have been my second choice but I just can't justify $400 right now no matter how cool it is.
I know I'll be kicking myself when they're all gone though...
I know...shit. And my bday and Christmas are pretty far off...As a true capitalist, I'd love to pass the costs on to someone else.
Does anyone know how much storage capacity these have? My MP3 player has 16GB, but its been full for a long time.
The PonoPlayer ships with a total of 128GB. 64GB of memory is built into the player and another 64GB of memory on a removable microSD card. The expansion slot can accept microSD cards of up to 64GB each. Unlike many other portable music players, the microSD cards are designed to be easily swappable. For example, you can build a library of various playlists or genres on different cards and simply swap them in and out, much like you'd swap game cards on a portable gaming console. So in reality you have infinite capacity on the PonoPlayer.
How many songs can it hold? That depends on the quality of your music files:
• CD lossless quality recordings (44.1 kHz/16 bit): About 5000 tracks. • High-resolution recordings (48 kHz/24 bit): About 3200 tracks. • Higher-resolution recordings (96 kHz/24 bit): About 1600 tracks. • Ultra-high resolution recordings (192 kHz/24 bit): About 800 tracks.
This is a LOT of high-resolution music, and we say, “the more the better”. You’ll get hooked on how good this music sounds.
Does anyone know how much storage capacity these have? My MP3 player has 16GB, but its been full for a long time.
The PonoPlayer ships with a total of 128GB. 64GB of memory is built into the player and another 64GB of memory on a removable microSD card. The expansion slot can accept microSD cards of up to 64GB each. Unlike many other portable music players, the microSD cards are designed to be easily swappable. For example, you can build a library of various playlists or genres on different cards and simply swap them in and out, much like you'd swap game cards on a portable gaming console. So in reality you have infinite capacity on the PonoPlayer.
How many songs can it hold? That depends on the quality of your music files:
• CD lossless quality recordings (44.1 kHz/16 bit): About 5000 tracks. • High-resolution recordings (48 kHz/24 bit): About 3200 tracks. • Higher-resolution recordings (96 kHz/24 bit): About 1600 tracks. • Ultra-high resolution recordings (192 kHz/24 bit): About 800 tracks.
This is a LOT of high-resolution music, and we say, “the more the better”. You’ll get hooked on how good this music sounds.
I am a little skeptical on this topic of storage with PONO. I watched the keynote from SXSW last night, with Neil and the CEO chap. The topic of storage came up, and the CEO said something like, "It has a 64GB built-in memory and comes with a 64GB card, we are waiting on a 128GB card." Not sure what this means. It may mean nothing. It may mean you have to buy proprietary memory sticks. Who knows. It think I will quote what Uncle Neil said a few times last night, "Even if we(PONO) fail, music still wins." I am with him there. I am all for higher quality music and competition in the digital music space. Peace.
I am a little skeptical on this topic of storage with PONO. I watched the keynote from SXSW last night, with Neil and the CEO chap. The topic of storage came up, and the CEO said something like, "It has a 64GB built-in memory and comes with a 64GB card, we are waiting on a 128GB card." Not sure what this means. It may mean nothing. It may mean you have to buy proprietary memory sticks. Who knows. It think I will quote what Uncle Neil said a few times last night, "Even if we(PONO) fail, music still wins." I am with him there. I am all for higher quality music and competition in the digital music space. Peace.
As far as I can tell, it uses standard microSD cards. Of course, until someone actually has one in their hands...
Well Neil and Co can take my $400. I am still rocking the minidisc player though so I may not be a man of useful opinions.
Still rocking the minidisc too :-bd
Mini Disc players are/were cool. It was the first truly digital pocket do all device. It was really handy for capturing live music. I also liked how you could move the tracks around on your mix.
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The PonoPlayer is designed to play PonoMusic with stunning clarity. However, the player can play almost any kind of music track including FLAC, ALAC, mp3, WAV, AIFF, AAC (unprotected).
What this really means is the PonoPlayer can play all your digital music, and all of it will sound great.
Guess I'll pick one up in a few years for a better price. even if it's not a PJ branded one.
Good on Neil for seeing his dream become reality. Now if he could only get Lincvolt happening he might just save the world
Question: Where's the Boss(Springsteen) on this? I'm surprised he's not on board but then again his Sirius station plays some really bad sounding live tracks...
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Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
People will be willing to pay for better music quality (not that Starbucks is good quality, but we're now willing to pay more)
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2013 - Wrigley Field, Chicago
2014 - Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul
2014 - Bradley Center, Milwaukee
2016 - Wrigley Field, Chicago
2018 - Wrigley Field, Chicago
2014 Cincy, Detroit, Moline, & Milwaukee
2015 Central Park
2016 Lexington, Ottawa, Toronto 1 & 2, Boston 1 & 2, Chicago 1 & 2
2017 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
2018 Seattle 1 & 2, Missoula, Chicago 1
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I am still rocking the minidisc player though so I may not be a man of useful opinions.
So this is totally a step above then what I used to own!
I really want this. I remember seeing NY talk about it on Letterman and have been interested since. One problem is that I really should not be spending $300-$400 on anything right now, let alone something I really don't "need".
Also, I'm wresting with the whole "new format" thing. I love vinyl. That's where I spend my money on albums that I know are worth it. Am I now going to have decide between vinyl and Pono? Pono music looks to be very expensive (between 20-25 bucks an album). No way I'm spending $50 on average to have both the vinyl and digital format of a record. That leaves me in most cases to have to choose between the two and I just can't see myself abandoning physical for digital (no matter how good the digital may be).
Of course, I could take all my cd's and dump them on there, which would certainly be an improvement to the mp3 files I now have of them (though still lower quality than Pono versions) but I lost all my cd's in fucking Hurricane asshole Sandy. This can be solved by annoying the fuck out of my friends and going around to their houses to try to borrow cd's and reestablish my collection but it still doesn't solve the above problem of future buying.
Anyone else wrestling with this?
Keep on Rocking Man.
I know I'll be kicking myself when they're all gone though...
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
How many songs can it hold? That depends on the quality of your music files:
• CD lossless quality recordings (44.1 kHz/16 bit): About 5000 tracks.
• High-resolution recordings (48 kHz/24 bit): About 3200 tracks.
• Higher-resolution recordings (96 kHz/24 bit): About 1600 tracks.
• Ultra-high resolution recordings (192 kHz/24 bit): About 800 tracks.
This is a LOT of high-resolution music, and we say, “the more the better”. You’ll get hooked on how good this music sounds.
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