Why does government get to force a PRIVATE business to sell to everyone?
If they are dumb enough to discriminate then they would be picketed into extinction.
Instead everyone wants to force them to sell that cake. Guess what's been added to it?
When I go to a business that has a no concealed carry sign outside I politely go inside and tell the owner that my money will not be spent there. I'll patronize another establishment. Why is that so hard for some people to comprehend?
because we had Jim Crow before and it didn't work so well.
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if you worked at a gas station (hell, maybe you own it) would you sell a gas can full of gas to a homosexual man who ran out of gas a few miles down the road?
of course I would....but I wouldn't give him a ride to his car ) I was thinking isn't there a law in place alreadt that says "we reserve the right to refuse survice to anybody" ?
of course I would....but I wouldn't give him a ride to his car ) I was thinking isn't there a law in place alreadt that says "we reserve the right to refuse survice to anybody" ?
Godfather.
... The right to refuse service because someone is black.. or Muslim... or Jewish... or Christian. You're okay with that?
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isn't this the same paranoid stuff you guy's accuse me of ? ) and I guess freedon of religious beliefs can swing both ways so it just stands to reason that if a straight American business owner feels that a gay muslim is allowed to live in his city he does not have to offer his business to those people...everything comes with a price,I'm laughing my ass off right now you remember the ol' saying "be careful what you ask for" well this is a perfect example, people for any cause will only bend so much before they fight back and Arizona is a great example of that,you can call them biggots or racist but the truth is they are just people standing up for what they believe in just like you or anybody else...I love this place.
Godfather.
this pretty much sums up the whole topic.
Though it does not mention same-sex marriage or relationships directly, it is clearly targeted at gay people, giving businesses immunity from discrimination lawsuits should they chose to deny service to customers in accordance with their religious beliefs.
what's the problem ?
Godfather.
... First off... I like it when you post candid messages like this. It provides people with some real insight on who you are and where you are coming from and a partial make-up of your true character. I, for one, commend you on this. ... Now.... i hope you fully understand what you are saying. What you are saying is that it would be okay to discriminate... against American citizens... in America... and claim that your religious beliefs protect you from the law of the land. That means people can avoid doing business with you... because you look like you might be gay. I suppose you wouldn't care if people look at you and decide you are gay and turn you away.... you would just go elsewhere, right? But, what if you are on a long stretch of Arizona highway with 1/4 of a gallon of gas in your tank and the nearest gas station owner decides that he won't sell you any gas... because you look gay to him. I mean, he doesn't know you... how does he know you are not a latent homosexual, right? You look like one... according to his view. You're okay with that, right? I mean, it is his business and he should be able to refuse service to anyone he pleases, right?
) ohhh brother... I find it funny that you and others are quick to assume that I am the bad guy right off the bat because I made a comment for the proposed law (that probably will never happen but I could care less if it did) and real funny thing is that everybody here believes that they have the best interest for man kind in mind and then I read post from time to time reading "I hope the place burns to the ground" or "if anybody deserves the death penelty it's that person",I gotta tell ya Cosmo I love this place., )
Why does government get to force a PRIVATE business to sell to everyone?
When I go to a business that has a no concealed carry sign outside I politely go inside and tell the owner that my money will not be spent there. I'll patronize another establishment. Why is that so hard for some people to comprehend?
So unsung please tell me you aren't "carrying" when you go into the business to educate them on your beliefs and rights....because that would be pretty self-righteous and arrogant and disrespectful (and we all know that's not you). They are prohibiting firearms, they are not discriminating against you personally. The more rational response would be to just go elsewhere, I'm sure they really don't give a shit if they get your business or not.
isn't this the same paranoid stuff you guy's accuse me of ? ) and I guess freedon of religious beliefs can swing both ways so it just stands to reason that if a straight American business owner feels that a gay muslim is allowed to live in his city he does not have to offer his business to those people...everything comes with a price,I'm laughing my ass off right now you remember the ol' saying "be careful what you ask for" well this is a perfect example, people for any cause will only bend so much before they fight back and Arizona is a great example of that,you can call them biggots or racist but the truth is they are just people standing up for what they believe in just like you or anybody else...I love this place.
Godfather.
this pretty much sums up the whole topic.
Though it does not mention same-sex marriage or relationships directly, it is clearly targeted at gay people, giving businesses immunity from discrimination lawsuits should they chose to deny service to customers in accordance with their religious beliefs.
what's the problem ?
Godfather.
... First off... I like it when you post candid messages like this. It provides people with some real insight on who you are and where you are coming from and a partial make-up of your true character. I, for one, commend you on this. ... Now.... i hope you fully understand what you are saying. What you are saying is that it would be okay to discriminate... against American citizens... in America... and claim that your religious beliefs protect you from the law of the land. That means people can avoid doing business with you... because you look like you might be gay. I suppose you wouldn't care if people look at you and decide you are gay and turn you away.... you would just go elsewhere, right? But, what if you are on a long stretch of Arizona highway with 1/4 of a gallon of gas in your tank and the nearest gas station owner decides that he won't sell you any gas... because you look gay to him. I mean, he doesn't know you... how does he know you are not a latent homosexual, right? You look like one... according to his view. You're okay with that, right? I mean, it is his business and he should be able to refuse service to anyone he pleases, right?
) ohhh brother... I find it funny that you and others are quick to assume that I am the bad guy right off the bat because I made a comment for the proposed law (that probably will never happen but I could care less if it did) and real funny thing is that everybody here believes that they have the best interest for man kind in mind and then I read post from time to time reading "I hope the place burns to the ground" or "if anybody deserves the death penelty it's that person",I gotta tell ya Cosmo I love this place., )
Godfather.
... Actually, sir... I was being truthful. I like it when people express their honest, heartfelt opinions. As I said, it provides me a glimpse of who they really are. I never stated you were a 'Bad Guy'. It is comments like this, "People for any cause will only bend so much before they fight back and Arizona is a great example of that,you can call them biggots or racist but the truth is they are just people standing up for what they believe in just like you or anybody else", that I am trying to understand. You are saying that it is okay for Arizona to stand up for what they believe in... even though those beliefs discriminate against others. If I'm wrong, please, clarify. You are sending mixed messages... is it okay to discriminate against Americans in America and use religion as a justification... or isn't it? Should the law protect the people discriminating.. or protect those being discriminated against? Please, clarify.
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you've stated at least 140 times you are not a fan at all of the gay community. you can not backpedal anymore. many of your posts are ridiculous & drive me bat shit crazy... you may want to adjust yourself
btw, why wouldn't you give the tired, sweaty gay gentleman a ride to his car that's out of gas after selling him the gas? it's arizona & 200 degrees. have a heart, bud
Why does government get to force a PRIVATE business to sell to everyone?
When I go to a business that has a no concealed carry sign outside I politely go inside and tell the owner that my money will not be spent there. I'll patronize another establishment. Why is that so hard for some people to comprehend?
So unsung please tell me you aren't "carrying" when you go into the business to educate them on your beliefs and rights....because that would be pretty self-righteous and arrogant and disrespectful (and we all know that's not you). They are prohibiting firearms, they are not discriminating against you personally. The more rational response would be to just go elsewhere, I'm sure they really don't give a shit if they get your business or not.
A. I am not getting an Illinois cc permit because I refuse to pay for my RIGHT.
B. The ability to defend myself is a birthright, a civil right. No politician can lawfully deny that. Just like no politician should be able to tell people what they can do in their bedroom as long as no harm is being done.
I can even begin to explain why government shouldn't be involved in situations like this. The market would shut these places down. No laws needed. People are smart enough to do the right thing.
I agree with you in this unsung, but unfortunately it doesn't always work like that. I've been waiting for chick-fil-a to go out if business for two years now.
I thought this was already legal in the States.... Aren't private business owners allowed to refuse service to anyone they want?
How are they planning on knowing which ones are gay? If their gaydar is off, it might be hard for them to explain when they serve one gay person and then refuse the next.
Anyway, any business owner who does this is a a fool as well as a disgusting human being. Why would business owners want to turn down other people's money??
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I do not believe in discrimination. I also don't believe that government should be involved in forcing private businesses to sell to those that they don't want to.
If you don't understand why I can suggest a book or two.
Any government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away.
I do not believe in discrimination. I also don't believe that government should be involved in forcing private businesses to sell to those that they don't want to.
If you don't understand why I can suggest a book or two.
Any government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away.
... Again... this legislation does NOT force businesses to sell to everyone. This legislation makes it okay to discriminate and avoid the legal repercussions of that discrimination. So, YES... government should not get into the business of protecting discrimination. If you choose to discriminate, you should face the consequences of your decisions. That is why people are saying to strike down this specific piece of legislation.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
isn't this the same paranoid stuff you guy's accuse me of ? ) and I guess freedon of religious beliefs can swing both ways so it just stands to reason that if a straight American business owner feels that a gay muslim is allowed to live in his city he does not have to offer his business to those people...everything comes with a price,I'm laughing my ass off right now you remember the ol' saying "be careful what you ask for" well this is a perfect example, people for any cause will only bend so much before they fight back and Arizona is a great example of that,you can call them biggots or racist but the truth is they are just people standing up for what they believe in just like you or anybody else...I love this place.
Godfather.
this pretty much sums up the whole topic.
Though it does not mention same-sex marriage or relationships directly, it is clearly targeted at gay people, giving businesses immunity from discrimination lawsuits should they chose to deny service to customers in accordance with their religious beliefs.
what's the problem ?
Godfather.
... First off... I like it when you post candid messages like this. It provides people with some real insight on who you are and where you are coming from and a partial make-up of your true character. I, for one, commend you on this. ... Now.... i hope you fully understand what you are saying. What you are saying is that it would be okay to discriminate... against American citizens... in America... and claim that your religious beliefs protect you from the law of the land. That means people can avoid doing business with you... because you look like you might be gay. I suppose you wouldn't care if people look at you and decide you are gay and turn you away.... you would just go elsewhere, right? But, what if you are on a long stretch of Arizona highway with 1/4 of a gallon of gas in your tank and the nearest gas station owner decides that he won't sell you any gas... because you look gay to him. I mean, he doesn't know you... how does he know you are not a latent homosexual, right? You look like one... according to his view. You're okay with that, right? I mean, it is his business and he should be able to refuse service to anyone he pleases, right?
) ohhh brother... I find it funny that you and others are quick to assume that I am the bad guy right off the bat because I made a comment for the proposed law (that probably will never happen but I could care less if it did) and real funny thing is that everybody here believes that they have the best interest for man kind in mind and then I read post from time to time reading "I hope the place burns to the ground" or "if anybody deserves the death penelty it's that person",I gotta tell ya Cosmo I love this place., )
Godfather.
... Actually, sir... I was being truthful. I like it when people express their honest, heartfelt opinions. As I said, it provides me a glimpse of who they really are. I never stated you were a 'Bad Guy'. It is comments like this, "People for any cause will only bend so much before they fight back and Arizona is a great example of that,you can call them biggots or racist but the truth is they are just people standing up for what they believe in just like you or anybody else", that I am trying to understand. You are saying that it is okay for Arizona to stand up for what they believe in... even though those beliefs discriminate against others. If I'm wrong, please, clarify. You are sending mixed messages... is it okay to discriminate against Americans in America and use religion as a justification... or isn't it? Should the law protect the people discriminating.. or portect those being discriminated against? Please, clarify.
sorry Cosmo, I believed what you posted about my candid messages and meant no disrespect towards you. I just find it odd that folks on here call people bigots and racist in one thread then call Ted Nugent vile ugly names in another because he enjoys hunting and is a pro gun advocate,seems biggotry and racism are a double edge blade..o.k for some but not for others and by the way I'm not speaking of you in the post,so is a persons honest opinion what makes them a bigot or racist ? if that's the case then bigot's and racist are everywhere in some way or another,folks on here talk about no borders and and living peacefully with each other and then make excuses for the actions of a "radical group" so what is the big deal with this Az.law that has not happened yet ? everybody is expecting the worst and acting like every business in Az. will profile people and mastake them for gay's....man do really think that will happen ? most people in business are in it for the money and as long people spend their money at their shop or business they don't care who they slept with the night before, just like everything else on the train it gets blown out of proportion but I must admit I enjoy the show,this place gives me a smile sometimes when I need one.
I do not believe in discrimination. I also don't believe that government should be involved in forcing private businesses to sell to those that they don't want to.
If you don't understand why I can suggest a book or two.
Any government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away.
... Again... this legislation does NOT force businesses to sell to everyone. This legislation makes it okay to discriminate and avoid the legal repercussions of that discrimination. So, YES... government should not get into the business of protecting discrimination. If you choose to discriminate, you should face the consequences of your decisions. That is why people are saying to strike down this specific piece of legislation.
I'm not sure I get that.... does this apply to hiring practices or something? What consequences are private business owners subjected to by refusing service now?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I do not believe in discrimination. I also don't believe that government should be involved in forcing private businesses to sell to those that they don't want to.
If you don't understand why I can suggest a book or two.
Any government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away.
... Again... this legislation does NOT force businesses to sell to everyone. This legislation makes it okay to discriminate and avoid the legal repercussions of that discrimination. So, YES... government should not get into the business of protecting discrimination. If you choose to discriminate, you should face the consequences of your decisions. That is why people are saying to strike down this specific piece of legislation.
I'm not sure I get that.... does this apply to hiring practices or something? What consequences are private business owners subjected to by refusing service now?
say you are a cake maker for instance and you decide to not take someone's business because you found out they were gay ... this law protects you as an owner from a discrimination lawsuit brought forth by those people ...
really - at the end of the day ... a business can refuse service ... it just can't be for reasons associated with discrimination ... what anti-gay business owners should do is simply lie about their reasons for not serving people ... claim to be too busy; understaffed; whatever ... just don't flat out come out that you are prejudiced and a bigot ...
I do not believe in discrimination. I also don't believe that government should be involved in forcing private businesses to sell to those that they don't want to.
If you don't understand why I can suggest a book or two.
Any government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away.
... Again... this legislation does NOT force businesses to sell to everyone. This legislation makes it okay to discriminate and avoid the legal repercussions of that discrimination. So, YES... government should not get into the business of protecting discrimination. If you choose to discriminate, you should face the consequences of your decisions. That is why people are saying to strike down this specific piece of legislation.
I'm not sure I get that.... does this apply to hiring practices or something? What consequences are private business owners subjected to by refusing service now?
say you are a cake maker for instance and you decide to not take someone's business because you found out they were gay ... this law protects you as an owner from a discrimination lawsuit brought forth by those people ...
really - at the end of the day ... a business can refuse service ... it just can't be for reasons associated with discrimination ... what anti-gay business owners should do is simply lie about their reasons for not serving people ... claim to be too busy; understaffed; whatever ... just don't flat out come out that you are prejudiced and a bigot ...
Well that's for sure.... I can only assume that these pricks are trying to advertise bigotry. Rally the troops, so to speak.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
godfather, can you yourself physically have a conversation with a homosexual man or woman?
I have had sex with two lesbians...does that count ? but other than that I think you're a bit off on your idea of my personality,I'm not rude towards people gay or not but I don't invite an obviously gay man into conversation and I don't sit and talk with gay women at the coffee shop so like it or not that's the way it is with me.
I do not believe in discrimination. I also don't believe that government should be involved in forcing private businesses to sell to those that they don't want to.
If you don't understand why I can suggest a book or two.
Any government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away.
... Again... this legislation does NOT force businesses to sell to everyone. This legislation makes it okay to discriminate and avoid the legal repercussions of that discrimination. So, YES... government should not get into the business of protecting discrimination. If you choose to discriminate, you should face the consequences of your decisions. That is why people are saying to strike down this specific piece of legislation.
I'm not sure I get that.... does this apply to hiring practices or something? What consequences are private business owners subjected to by refusing service now?
say you are a cake maker for instance and you decide to not take someone's business because you found out they were gay ... this law protects you as an owner from a discrimination lawsuit brought forth by those people ...
really - at the end of the day ... a business can refuse service ... it just can't be for reasons associated with discrimination ... what anti-gay business owners should do is simply lie about their reasons for not serving people ... claim to be too busy; understaffed; whatever ... just don't flat out come out that you are prejudiced and a bigot ...
Well that's for sure.... I can only assume that these pricks are trying to advertise bigotry. Rally the troops, so to speak.
ya ... the bill is basically a mechanism for a business to "proudly" shove their hate/ignorance in people's faces ...
... Actually, sir... I was being truthful. I like it when people express their honest, heartfelt opinions. As I said, it provides me a glimpse of who they really are. I never stated you were a 'Bad Guy'. It is comments like this, "People for any cause will only bend so much before they fight back and Arizona is a great example of that,you can call them biggots or racist but the truth is they are just people standing up for what they believe in just like you or anybody else", that I am trying to understand. You are saying that it is okay for Arizona to stand up for what they believe in... even though those beliefs discriminate against others. If I'm wrong, please, clarify. You are sending mixed messages... is it okay to discriminate against Americans in America and use religion as a justification... or isn't it? Should the law protect the people discriminating.. or portect those being discriminated against? Please, clarify.
sorry Cosmo, I believed what you posted about my candid messages and meant no disrespect towards you. I just find it odd that folks on here call people bigots and racist in one thread then call Ted Nugent vile ugly names in another because he enjoys hunting and is a pro gun advocate,seems biggotry and racism are a double edge blade..o.k for some but not for others and by the way I'm not speaking of you in the post,so is a persons honest opinion what makes them a bigot or racist ? if that's the case then bigot's and racist are everywhere in some way or another,folks on here talk about no borders and and living peacefully with each other and then make excuses for the actions of a "radical group" so what is the big deal with this Az.law that has not happened yet ? everybody is expecting the worst and acting like every business in Az. will profile people and mastake them for gay's....man do really think that will happen ? most people in business are in it for the money and as long people spend their money at their shop or business they don't care who they slept with the night before, just like everything else on the train it gets blown out of proportion but I must admit I enjoy the show,this place gives me a smile sometimes when I need one. Godfather.
... I think it's because biggotry and racism goes against an entire group of people and complaints upon individuals, such as Ted Nugent, goes against the words and actions of an individual. And yes, if someone truely feels anomosity against people due to their race or religion... they are racists or biggots or whatever describes their character. Like, i can sit here and say, 'I hate niggers'... then say, 'but I'm not a racist'. Those are contradictory statements. If you hate black people... then you are a racist by the very definition of the term. I mean, how many times have you heard people say, 'I'm not a racist... but...' and then go on to say some racist shit? They may think they aren't racist... but, the truth is, they are. If you have racist views, you are a racist. If you have bigotted views, you are a biggot... it's pretty simple. We can claim to not be racist... but, if that is who we really are... we are also liars. As for the Arizona law... it is a sham. It protects people who choose to discriminate against others from being held accountable for their discrimination. Those people should not be protected. The people who should be protected by the law are the people who are being discriminated against. Sorry, but that's what America is supposed to be about... us all being created equal.
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of course I would....but I wouldn't give him a ride to his car ) I was thinking isn't there a law in place alreadt that says "we reserve the right to refuse survice to anybody" ?
Godfather.
... The right to refuse service because someone is black.. or Muslim... or Jewish... or Christian. You're okay with that?
Or physically and/or mentally disabled, elderly, young, a woman, children, a mother of children, etc. etc. Who's to say this is all about race or sexual orientation? It's discrimination across the entire board.
but um, why can't you invite a openly gay man into conversation?
I think GF was more icky-braggy than honest, but that's better than dishonest..... Hey, I wonder if these women may have become more consistently lesbian soon after they were with GF. Just a guess!
brewer will veto this bill. she gave up the fight against obamacare exchanges when faced with threats of economic consequences. this bill will be terrible for businesses in the state. the bottom line is money talks and bullshit walks. people start losing money, the republicans are gonna pay the price for passing this bill.
i called the greater phoenix chamber of commerce and told them that i will never spend another dollar in arizona if this is signed into law and the lady told me that the greater phoenix chamber of commerce opposes the law.
if a chamber of commerce opposes a law, you know it is a terrible law.
brewer can go down in history books as the governor who vetoed this bill, or she can be the one who signed the bill into law. i don't know why she is taking so long to decide. i mean, if fox news anchors oppose the law, how long does it take a republican governor to change her stance on it??? seriously....
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Actually... the targets are different, now.
Hail, Hail!!!
Godfather.
The right to refuse service because someone is black.. or Muslim... or Jewish... or Christian. You're okay with that?
Hail, Hail!!!
Godfather.
Actually, sir... I was being truthful. I like it when people express their honest, heartfelt opinions. As I said, it provides me a glimpse of who they really are.
I never stated you were a 'Bad Guy'. It is comments like this, "People for any cause will only bend so much before they fight back and Arizona is a great example of that,you can call them biggots or racist but the truth is they are just people standing up for what they believe in just like you or anybody else", that I am trying to understand.
You are saying that it is okay for Arizona to stand up for what they believe in... even though those beliefs discriminate against others.
If I'm wrong, please, clarify. You are sending mixed messages... is it okay to discriminate against Americans in America and use religion as a justification... or isn't it? Should the law protect the people discriminating.. or protect those being discriminated against?
Please, clarify.
Hail, Hail!!!
I put a little more faith into people over politicians.
you've stated at least 140 times you are not a fan at all of the gay community. you can not backpedal anymore. many of your posts are ridiculous & drive me bat shit crazy... you may want to adjust yourself
btw, why wouldn't you give the tired, sweaty gay gentleman a ride to his car that's out of gas after selling him the gas? it's arizona & 200 degrees. have a heart, bud
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
B. The ability to defend myself is a birthright, a civil right. No politician can lawfully deny that. Just like no politician should be able to tell people what they can do in their bedroom as long as no harm is being done.
How are they planning on knowing which ones are gay? If their gaydar is off, it might be hard for them to explain when they serve one gay person and then refuse the next.
Anyway, any business owner who does this is a a fool as well as a disgusting human being. Why would business owners want to turn down other people's money??
can you yourself physically have a conversation with a homosexual man or woman?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I do not believe in discrimination. I also don't believe that government should be involved in forcing private businesses to sell to those that they don't want to.
If you don't understand why I can suggest a book or two.
Any government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away.
Again... this legislation does NOT force businesses to sell to everyone. This legislation makes it okay to discriminate and avoid the legal repercussions of that discrimination.
So, YES... government should not get into the business of protecting discrimination. If you choose to discriminate, you should face the consequences of your decisions. That is why people are saying to strike down this specific piece of legislation.
Hail, Hail!!!
Godfather.
really - at the end of the day ... a business can refuse service ... it just can't be for reasons associated with discrimination ... what anti-gay business owners should do is simply lie about their reasons for not serving people ... claim to be too busy; understaffed; whatever ... just don't flat out come out that you are prejudiced and a bigot ...
Godfather.
I think it's because biggotry and racism goes against an entire group of people and complaints upon individuals, such as Ted Nugent, goes against the words and actions of an individual.
And yes, if someone truely feels anomosity against people due to their race or religion... they are racists or biggots or whatever describes their character. Like, i can sit here and say, 'I hate niggers'... then say, 'but I'm not a racist'. Those are contradictory statements. If you hate black people... then you are a racist by the very definition of the term. I mean, how many times have you heard people say, 'I'm not a racist... but...' and then go on to say some racist shit? They may think they aren't racist... but, the truth is, they are.
If you have racist views, you are a racist. If you have bigotted views, you are a biggot... it's pretty simple. We can claim to not be racist... but, if that is who we really are... we are also liars.
As for the Arizona law... it is a sham. It protects people who choose to discriminate against others from being held accountable for their discrimination. Those people should not be protected. The people who should be protected by the law are the people who are being discriminated against. Sorry, but that's what America is supposed to be about... us all being created equal.
Hail, Hail!!!
& thank you for your honest answer
but um, why can't you invite a openly gay man into conversation?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
i called the greater phoenix chamber of commerce and told them that i will never spend another dollar in arizona if this is signed into law and the lady told me that the greater phoenix chamber of commerce opposes the law.
if a chamber of commerce opposes a law, you know it is a terrible law.
brewer can go down in history books as the governor who vetoed this bill, or she can be the one who signed the bill into law. i don't know why she is taking so long to decide. i mean, if fox news anchors oppose the law, how long does it take a republican governor to change her stance on it??? seriously....
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."