Permit to hunt endangered African black rhino sells for $350,000
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Permit to hunt endangered African black rhino sells for $350,000 at U.S. auction
http://blogs.windsorstar.com/2014/01/12/permit-to-hunt-endangered-african-black-rhino-sells-for-350000-at-dallas-auction/
http://blogs.windsorstar.com/2014/01/12/permit-to-hunt-endangered-african-black-rhino-sells-for-350000-at-dallas-auction/
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edit, I was wrong about place but think I'm on the money about who. Most backawards assed shit I've heard since trickle down economics.
By Nomaan Merchant And Michael Graczyk, The Associated Press
DALLAS — A permit to hunt an endangered African black rhino sold Saturday night for $350,000 at a Dallas auction held to raise money for conservation efforts but criticized by wildlife advocates.
Steve Wagner, a spokesman for the Dallas Safari Club, which sponsored the closed-door event, confirmed the sale of the permit for a hunt in the African nation of Namibia. He declined to name the buyer.
Ben Carter, executive director of the Safari Club, has defended the auction. He said all money raised will go toward protecting the species. He also said the rhino that the winner will be allowed to hunt is old, male and nonbreeding — and that the animal was likely to be targeted for removal anyway because it was becoming aggressive and threatening other wildlife.
But the auction drew howls from critics, including wildlife and animal rights groups, and the FBI earlier this week said it was investigating death threats against members of the club.
Officials from the Humane Society and the International Fund for Animal Welfare have said that while culling can be appropriate in abundant animal populations, all black rhinos should be protected, given their endangered status.
An estimated 4,000 black rhinos remain in the wild, down from 70,000 in the 1960s. Nearly 1,800 are in Namibia, according to the safari club.
Critics have also said any hunting of a rhino sends a bad message to the public.
“This auction is telling the world that an American will pay anything to kill their species,” Jeffrey Flocken, North American regional director of the Massachusetts-based IFAW, said earlier this week. “This is, in fact, making a spectacle of killing an endangered species.”
Dallas Safari Club executive director Ben Carter poses for a photo by the club clothing wear booth in the Dallas Exhibit Hall as preparations continue for the clubs weekend show, Wednesday, Jan. 8, 2014, in Dallas. The FBI is investigating death threats made against members of the Dallas Safari Club, which intends to auction off a rare permit to hunt an endangered black rhino, an FBI spokeswoman said Wednesday. (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez)
Dallas Safari Club executive director Ben Carter poses for a photo by the club clothing wear booth in the Dallas Exhibit Hall as preparations continue for the clubs weekend show, Wednesday, Jan. 8, 2014, in Dallas. The FBI is investigating death threats made against members of the Dallas Safari Club, which intends to auction off a rare permit to hunt an endangered black rhino, an FBI spokeswoman said Wednesday. (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez)
The auction took place Saturday night in downtown Dallas under tight security and behind closed doors. Organizers hoped to at least break the previous high bid for one of the permits in Namibia, which is $223,000, and had said the amount could be as high as $1 million. The nation offers five permits each year, and the one auctioned Saturday was the first to be made available for purchase outside of Namibia.
The winning bidder could have come from anywhere in the world, and at least some bidders were expected to enter by phone.
About 40 protesters gathered early Saturday evening outside the convention centre where the auction and a pre-auction dinner were to take place. They held signs and chanted. Most dispersed by just after 6 p.m. CST.
Jim and Lauren Ries travelled with their children from Atlanta to protest the auction of the rare black rhino hunting permit in Dallas. Jim Ries said it was his son Carter, 12, and daughter Olivia, 11, who pushed for them to go and participate.
“We heard what the Dallas Safari Club was doing and we thought it was just wrong that they were auctioning off to kill a black rhino and we really got upset that they were thinking this,” Carter Ries said.
Jim Ries said his children are passionate about animal conservation and were working to help adopt cheetahs in Africa. The family started a non-profit called One More Generation, dedicated to saving endangered species.
“There’s less than 5,000 black rhinos left on the planet,” the father said, “and if our kids ever want to see a rhino left in the wild, we can’t be pulling the trigger on every one we say is too old to breed.”
Poachers long have targeted all species of rhino, primarily for its horn, which is valuable on the international black market. Made of the protein keratin, the chief component in fingernails and hooves, the horn has been used in carvings and for medicinal purposes, mostly in Asia. The near-extinction of the species also has been attributed to habitat loss.
Associated Press video journalist John Mone contributed to this report. Graczyk reported from Houston.
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Should anyone be surprised?
While I completely understand the purpose of hunting for food... for the life of me, I cannot understand the mentality that motivates a person to place a trophy animal (endangered one at that) in their sights and shoot a bullet into it so that they can take parts of it and decorate their house.
The classic thing is these guys that pay to do these things are escorted in an armed expedition that safeguards them from any harm. I might have a bit of respect for them if they got dropped off into the wild by themselves and at least gave nature a fighting chance, but these hunts in Africa amount to just slightly more than the canned hunts we see in Texas:
drive up to a black rhino...
get out of vehicle (stepping on the back of one of the help to lessen the height of the step down)...
have your rifle handed to you by a guide...
have another guide point you in the direction of the animal...
have another guide aim your gun for you...
have another guide help you pull the trigger...
have the remaining guides shoot the animal dead as you miss badly...
have all the help say, "good shot" and pat you on the back while wiping your brow...
have a picture taken with your trophy...
have all the paid help butcher the animal into the parts you have selected for keeping...
have one of the help mix you a martini...
and, finally, go back to the US to throw cocktail parties and tell wild stories of your authentic safari hunting experience and how you braved the elements to take down a large mammal that sought to kill you.
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Of course I'd be bidding to save the beast, not shoot it. Too bad some wealthy person with a heart didn't do that.
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sorry, but that was funny
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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Carter later added, 'We are also auctioning off permits for the winners to hunt old, males (and females), non-breeding from the American citizens population as selected by the ObamaCare 'Death Panels'... because, really... what's the difference?'
Carter was unable to return our calls after being shot by a permit winner.
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So far 946 rhinos have been poached in 2013, exceeding the 668 animals killed last year, the Department of Environmental Affairs said in an e-mailed statement today. Three hundred and thirty people have been arrested in 2013 for poaching-related offenses compared with 267 last year.
Kruger National Park, an area the size of Israel that borders Mozambique, was the region most affected by poaching with 573 of the animals killed, the department said. The country’s Limpopo province was the second highest with 106.
South Africa is militarizing its force of park rangers as poachers kill more rhinos to feed a market for horns in Vietnam and China. White and black rhinos were brought back from the brink of extinction in South Africa in the 1960s to a population of close to 20,000, about 90 percent of the global rhino population.
Most of them are the larger white rhinos, which can weigh more than two metric tons.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-19/south-africa-rhino-poaching-surges-at-least-42-from-2012.html
While this is good that this brings attention to the problem the real issue still lies with the chinese and Vietnamese and their bullshit beliefs, these animals will be extinct due to these savages it's just a matter of time.
Some people like to kill rhinos so let's let them kill rhinos. It's for a good cause?
Who cares if the animal is past it's 'usefulness'? The point is to leave the animals alone and stop killing them for a few parts. Why would we cater to someone who has an urge to kill an animal so they can decorate their house with some of its parts just because they have the money to do so?
A good human being with such disposable income would contribute $350,000 to conservation efforts and saving the animals... not to take one down under the doing it for a good cause rationale.
My god but this shit just makes me sick. And angry.
Sick.
Period.
The hunter can do with whatever he wants with the parts. He's not out there poaching them. He put in the highest bid. He has 350,000 going towards their cause more than they had. It is also mentioned that the rhino has been under the consideration of being removed anyways due to it acting more and more aggressive. It's a win win. Hunter gets to hunt a rhino, the rhinos get 350,000 towards their conservation. Instead of getting upset or mad at this, look at the real issue and why this happened. These hunters that bid on this aren't the issue. Poaching is the issue. And there is a huge difference between big game hunters, and poachers.
I don't know how you can say a good human being with that much disposable income would just donate it. Do you know the person that placed the highest bid? Is he really that bad of a guy? What did he do to not be a "good" human being?
Just because you personally don't agree with something doesn't make it bad, or evil, or wrong.
He travelled to another country to kill an animal for its horn. It's bad, evil, and wrong.
Godfather.
mattsl1983... you are wrong & that is a fact.
again... asshole cancer to the next piece of trash who kills any rhino, white ones or the black ones. same w/ elephant murderers. i would love to fight these idiots. it would be fun to bury a knife in some safari hunter's fat stupid neck in about 3 seconds & not even give a shit.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
He travelled to another country to kill an animal for its horn. It's bad, evil, and wrong.
Wow, you just brought up Ariel Castro? In this discussion, over a person who has benefited the conservation of rhinos, in order to hunt one legally? I am sure you feel like you just made some sort of good point? And you ignore the actual issue of poaching... This hunter has single handedly done more for the rhinos in one day than you will probably ever do in your lifetime. And that is including all your posts about how bad of a person he is. Have a good one.
how about leave the rhino alone! old & cranky? oooo the old guy is getting more aggressive...good. hopefully he stomps a few idiots to death before the trigger is pulled.
this fucking safari hunting outfit is nothing but a candy ass group of sissys with little guy syndrome
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
And no. Sadly I'm not drinking, otherwise I would probably be using the "f" word, type like I'm in a drunken rage, and not capitalize the first word in my sentences.
what have i done for rhino conservation? i haven't supported the murder of any rhino while could it be maybe you have supported such a vile act? yes i would say you have with your comments here.
i love those ex-special forces guys who go over there to protect the rhinos. what a great job. if i could reverse my life i'd do what they are doing. killing rhino & elephant murderers would be worthy of erection
asshole cancer... yes/no?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
is that the year you were born? so when the japanese slaughter hundreds of dolphins in their little bay or harpoon some whales out to sea this is not murder to you? guess what, matt? it is fucking murder
by the way just so you understand me... ted nugent is a piece of shit trophy hunter who should be shot his own darn self, then mounted on a wall for shits & giggles.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
matts, as you can see, there's much passion related to this topic. My small self just can't wrap her head around the notion of "hunting" an animal for anything other than survivalism. I get that the fellow's bid is putting money to help other rhinos, but who is anyone to say this old animal deserves to have its life ended because of parameters set by us?
And speaking of wondering, how does this supposed hunt go down? He's an aged animal. Does the hunter just go up to him and shoot? Is a hunt manipulated somehow? What happens to the animal afterward? Skinned, de-horned, photo-ops?
I'm usually pretty rational, but this just doesn't sit well with my sense - granted, it's subjective, but still - of what's right.
Outside of the fact that poorer people tend to poach and rich people who can afford expensive licenses 'hunt legally'... what is the difference between poaching and legal hunting? The bottom line is in either scenario a black rhino is killed for its horn.
You strive to foolishly rationalize it, while I don't see any difference... and neither does the rhino.
The fact that you eagerly overlook this man's 'need' to go kill a near extinct animal by exclaiming he's 'helping the cause' is ridiculous. As I said before, if he has that type of money and he's truly interested in conservation... then he would donate the money and go take photographs of the animal instead of killing it like poachers do.
Try again.