Permit to hunt endangered African black rhino sells for $350,000

Idris

Is it less disgusting to remove the beast and put him in a zoo? Surely it'll generate money from visitors. (I personally dont like the idea of caging animals)

The notion of killing an endangered animal to protect them overall is perverse. Its just wrong.
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Once again, we as human beings are resorting to what we know and do best, killing in the name of protection and in this case so called animal conservation.

Surely we can think of better ways to generate funds for them, rather than just resort to killing. Surely??

This is one of 5 that will be 'legally' destroyed, its sad and wrong.

callen

Humans suck plain and simple. To get joy out of shooting a defenseless animal is evil. Course we have MMA where we watch humans beating each other silly for entertainment. We're a virus with shoes.

Idris

Like MMA, Boxing etc, if two people choose to beat the living daylights out of one another. I personally have no issues with that.

But I get your point, that it is a bit funny how we enjoy watching people fight each other for sport, but again, if two adults, choose that path and are not hurting anyone else. I can't really have an issue with it.

but it is an interesting commentary on the human state of mind.

callen

What does it say about humans as a society. We are barbaric. Hey to each their own it's just we have not evolved as much as we'd like to think. Have bill board on freeway by house that shows proud texans and their prey.

dignin

Idris said:

Is it less disgusting to remove the beast and put him in a zoo? Surely it'll generate money from visitors. (I personally dont like the idea of caging animals)

The notion of killing an endangered animal to protect them overall is perverse. Its just wrong.
-
Once again, we as human beings are resorting to what we know and do best, killing in the name of protection and in this case so called animal conservation.

Surely we can think of better ways to generate funds for them, rather than just resort to killing. Surely??

This is one of 5 that will be 'legally' destroyed, its sad and wrong.

Well one positive thing that comes from things like this is a greater awareness of the plight of these endangered animals. Without this stunt we wouldn't be talking about them.

brianlux

I's like to see some really rich person pay a ton of money ear-marked for rhino conservation and then go and shoot a live rhino with blank rounds and confess that he or she really just wanted to get a close look at one of these beautiful creatures up close and alive, never with the intent to kill.

know1

I don't understand killing anything. (Although I am a carnivore myself, so I suppose I contribute)

polaris_x

Idris said:

Is it less disgusting to remove the beast and put him in a zoo? Surely it'll generate money from visitors. (I personally dont like the idea of caging animals)

The notion of killing an endangered animal to protect them overall is perverse. Its just wrong.
-
Once again, we as human beings are resorting to what we know and do best, killing in the name of protection and in this case so called animal conservation.

Surely we can think of better ways to generate funds for them, rather than just resort to killing. Surely??

This is one of 5 that will be 'legally' destroyed, its sad and wrong.

zoos are awful ... it's debatable what is more cruel i say ...

but either way - in a perfect world, there would be balance ... but there isn't and we're talking africa here ... there are a lot of things that come into play ... if we can wake china and vietnam up to their BS beliefs - we'd do more for the rhino population ...

or if there are other ways of raising the money - i'm pretty sure everyone is all ears ...

chadwick

before long us humans will be able to watch & participate in hunting one another down for entertainment purposes. rhino & elephant hunters will be targeted for hunting games.

Idris

polaris_x said:

Idris said:

Is it less disgusting to remove the beast and put him in a zoo? Surely it'll generate money from visitors. (I personally dont like the idea of caging animals)

The notion of killing an endangered animal to protect them overall is perverse. Its just wrong.
-
Once again, we as human beings are resorting to what we know and do best, killing in the name of protection and in this case so called animal conservation.

Surely we can think of better ways to generate funds for them, rather than just resort to killing. Surely??

This is one of 5 that will be 'legally' destroyed, its sad and wrong.

zoos are awful ... it's debatable what is more cruel i say ...

but either way - in a perfect world, there would be balance ... but there isn't and we're talking africa here ... there are a lot of things that come into play ... if we can wake china and vietnam up to their BS beliefs - we'd do more for the rhino population ...

or if there are other ways of raising the money - i'm pretty sure everyone is all ears ...

As I mentioned, I don't like or support caging wild animals. As you said, its debatable which is more cruel. I agree.

But As long as good people like you, say things like "necessary evil" I reckon the world will stay out of balance. Are we not a progressive, thinking people? Who have moved past the notion of "necessary evils" and killing to solve problems?

I agree with 'Callen' who above mentioned that we as a people have not evolved as much as we think we have. But No doubt our egos have grown/evolved.

What we need to do is get in touch with these wild life funds and African governments, get a grass roots movement going, and have a bidding war, a non violent way to deal with this. We out bid the hunters,

with all the outrage now, I'm quite confident that we could generate more money than the 350k, to save the beast and help with conservation efforts.

I'm sure you'll donate a couple dollars, I would, many people I feel would donate (basing this on the massive outcry currently going on) we present this concept to these African governments. I mean money talks.

Open up a bidding war, us vs them.

But we should never go on about 'necessary evils', its a dangerous path to walk.

polaris_x

Idris said:

As I mentioned, I don't like or support caging wild animals. As you said, its debatable which is more cruel. I agree.

But As long as good people like you, say things like "necessary evil" I reckon the world will stay out of balance. Are we not a progressive, thinking people? Who have moved past the notion of "necessary evils" and killing to solve problems?

I agree with 'Callen' who above mentioned that we as a people have not evolved as much as we think we have. But No doubt our egos have grown/evolved.

What we need to do is get in touch with these wild life funds and African governments, get a grass roots movement going, and have a bidding war, a non violent way to deal with this. We out bid the hunters,

with all the outrage now, I'm quite confident that we could generate more money than the 350k, to save the beast and help with conservation efforts.

I'm sure you'll donate a couple dollars, I would, many people I feel would donate (basing this on the massive outcry currently going on) we present this concept to these African governments. I mean money talks.

Open up a bidding war, us vs them.

But we should never go on about 'necessary evils', its a dangerous path to walk.

money definitely talks ... it's essentially at the root of the rhino problems ...

again - i'm open to any other ideas but when conservation groups who's goal is to preserve the species support this hunts - what are ya gonna do? ...

my primary goal in this thread is to try and redirect that anger and what really is the problem and that is the black market value of rhino parts ... i'd rather raise $350k to try and quash the black market than move a rhino into some enclosure ...

Idris

Many groups are against this, the ones supporting it surely are in the minority.

mattsl1983

Last month it was Sea World, now it's rhinos. I wonder what next month it will be?

a5pj

mattsl1983 said:

Last month it was Sea World, now it's rhinos. I wonder what next month it will be?

The puppy bowl.

chadwick

mattsl1983 said:

Last month it was Sea World, now it's rhinos. I wonder what next month it will be?

it's sea world everyday, all day & it is rhinoceros every day all day. next month it will be the same. why? because people like the folks at sea world & the big dick safari hunters & poachers make this world a shittier place than need be

hedonist

a5pj said:

The puppy bowl.

Oh my god, I can't wait for this again!

AND KITTEN HALF-TIME.

By the way, I don't think these types of issues are causes du jour. Some people - many people - actually and sincerely (I hope not surprisingly) have problems with what is seen as the unnecessary killing of an animal - an endangered one at that - for ego, entertainment, etc.

Jason P

a5pj said:

mattsl1983 said:

Last month it was Sea World, now it's rhinos. I wonder what next month it will be?

The puppy bowl.

Godfather.

mattsl1983 said:

Last month it was Sea World, now it's rhinos. I wonder what next month it will be?

house flys...death to the fashist house flys that feed on the steamy fresh dog turd left in my yard ...or will it be "save the house fly" it too is a living being with a reason to live free among the steamy freah dog turds left by my loving neighbors great dane.


) ) :-&


Godfather.

gimmesometruth27

i read yesterday that the man who won this auction is in hiding. he is fearing for his life.

good, now he knows what it feels like to be hunted.

gimmesometruth27

i would like to see the winning bidder buy his way out of his current situation....