Last week the president tried to heal the damage by telling insurance companies that they could extend canceled policies through 2014, but the ultimate decision was in the hands of individual carriers. In California, the issue is even more complicated for companies offering health plans on the insurance exchange, which has contracts requiring them to cancel policies that don’t comply with Obamacare rules by the end of the year.
"he knows exactly how smart he is...I think that he has never really been challenged intellectually...he's been bored to death his whole life. he's just too talented to do what ordinary people do. he would never be satisfied with what ordinary people do."
-jarrett
live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
The privately held company does not object to funding other forms of contraception -- such as condoms and diaphragms -- for their roughly 13,000 employees, which Hobby Lobby says represent a variety of faiths.
Companies that refuse to provide the coverage could be fined up to $1.3 million daily.
Almost 80 million people with employer health plans could find their coverage canceled because they are not compliant with ObamaCare, several experts predicted.
Their losses would be in addition to the millions who found their individual coverage cancelled for the same reason.
Insurance companies should make their shitty policies compliant with the law and there wouldn't be an issue. I blame them not the president. Rather than change, they just drop people then it looks like Obama's fault. I truly feel sorry for the president. If I were him my farewell speech would just be "fuck you. Really, fuck all of you."
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Insurance companies should make their shitty policies compliant with the law and there wouldn't be an issue. I blame them not the president. Rather than change, they just drop people then it looks like Obama's fault. I truly feel sorry for the president. If I were him my farewell speech would just be "fuck you. Really, fuck all of you."
and those words my friend are the "last great act of defiance" when a looser has nothing or no-one left to blame but himself, but if you were him you'd already know that.
Of course he is a liar. Name a politician that isn't a liar... :roll:
~Carter~
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
CNN reports that a woman the president hailed as an Obamacare success story just realized she won't be able to afford Obamacare because it's too expensive:
"Jessica Sanford was cited by the president as an Obamacare success story at a health care event he had here at the White House in the Rose Garden on October 21," says a reporter for CNN from the White House. "That of course being just last month. The 48-year-old single mom from Washington state purchased what she considered to be affordable health care, life-changing event, she said, on the Washington state health exchange. She decided she was so excited about this news, she wanted to write an e-mail to the president to say that this had really changed her life and that she was thankful for the Afforable Care Act. The president included her e-mail in his remarks to people on hand for the event. Here's a bit of what the president had to say."
The CNN report quotes President Obama as saying, "I recently received a letter from a woman named Jessica Sanford in Washington state. And here's what she wrote, I am a single mom, no child support, self-employed. and I haven't had insurance for 15 years because it's too expensive. I was crying the other day when I signed up, so much stress lifted."
"But days, just really three days after she was mentioned by the president, Jessica Sanford started having problems, she was receiving letters from the Washington state health exchange," reports CNN. "The first letter telling her that tax credit was reduced, therefore, increasing the cost of her health care plan and the,n take a look at this, then she received a letter just last week telling her that her tax credit had been taken away all together. Show you another document here, showing what the tax credit worked out to be... zero dollars according to this document that was provided to us by Jessica Sanford. She describes all of this as a roller coaster ride. Now she says she can't afford insurance in Washington state because of the new developments."
Sanford tells CNN that she's embarrassed. "It was a huge disappointment, especially since i had, you know, my story had been shared by the president. I felt like, you know, i just felt really embarrassed that, you know, he quoted my story and then come to find that the Washington health plan finder, the website here in our state, had grossly miscalculated or they're having a problem figuring their tax credits. and so at least for right now, i don't -- i'm not going to be getting insurance," she says.
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I think it is probably a good thing to back fill this report because I have a bad habit of trying to collect as much data as I can before making responding to something. Plus, I have this terrible affliction where i don't believe what one news source reports. Our media is more focused on 'breaking News', than they are on gathering the facts and reporting the full story to us.
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"Jessica Sanford, 48, discovered that she is no longer eligible for a large subsidy that would have lowered her monthly premium to $169 per month. Instead, Sanford would now be forced to pay nearly four times as much, $621, for coverage...
Sanford works as a court reporter and says she makes just under $50,000 a year. Her 14-year-old son requires a monthly prescription that is expensive because it must come from a compounded pharmacy. She said she thought the originally promised $452 monthly premium subsidy would help her close the financial gap."
(ref: http://news.yahoo.com/obamacare-%E2%80% ... 39697.html )
Summary:
The Insurance Policy is still $621 a month. She was banking on the Government to cover $452 of that bill (about 73% of the $621 total cost), leaving her with a balance of $169 she'd be on the hook for.
My best guess... and i admit, it is purely an unfounded guess... is that her annual income of $50,000 is too high to qualify for the taxpayers to cover. If she was in the $15,000 a year range... that would be different becuase, come on, 15K is a base line Honda Civic, which is an uber-luxury item to someone earning that amount, right?
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I don't know... is an annual income of $50,000.00 a lot of money... or is it closer to the poverty level?
Is $50,000 a year too high to qualify for the taxpayers to cover 73% for her? I don't know.
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EDIT** I looked it up. The Median Income in the U.S. for 2012 was $51,000 (all households)
(ref. http://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/p60-245.pdf ) See Table 1 on page 6
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Is anyone willing to answer this question?
I'll repeat it:
Is an income of $50,000 a year too high to qualify for the taxpayers to cover 73% for her (Jessica Sanford's medical insurance)?
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Hail, Hail!!!
"when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - When you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - When you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - When you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice- You may know that your society is doomed."
-Ayn Rand
live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
"when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - When you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - When you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - When you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice- You may know that your society is doomed."
-Ayn Rand
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That is a pretty good description of American Capitalism today. The 1% so beloved by the Tea Party are making money by making money. There wealth is based upon investments... not production. The market is tilted in their favor, not the workin stiff in a 9 to 5.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
"when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - When you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - When you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - When you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice- You may know that your society is doomed."
-Ayn Rand
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That is a pretty good description of American Capitalism today. The 1% so beloved by the Tea Party are making money by making money. There wealth is based upon investments... not production. The market is tilted in their favor, not the workin stiff in a 9 to 5.
the people I have interacted with, who are wealthy, have produced goods. goods that consumers buy.
I invest my monies, in businesses that produce a product that people buy...sometimes I sell to quickly, sometimes not soon enough.
if you have clean running water...you are in the 1% of the world. far too many people base their success on money.
live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
Of course he is a liar. Name a politician that isn't a liar... :roll:
all the dead ones (JFK- G.Washington etc.) ...they can't lie anymore.
Godfather.
:thumbup:
~Carter~
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
Anyone who outright promotes the message of selfishness and demeans altruism isn't worth attention. Not to mention her followers treat her as if she's a philosophical genius, even though she had a limited philosophical background, she studied only as far as to make her fiction more grandiose, which is why political philosophers generally ignore her. I won't even touch on her view of disabled persons.
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ohhhh yeahhh obama is just a peach of a guy :?
Godfather.
-jarrett
Companies that refuse to provide the coverage could be fined up to $1.3 million daily.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/26/politics/ ... ?hpt=hp_t2
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Almost 80 million people with employer health plans could find their coverage canceled because they are not compliant with ObamaCare, several experts predicted.
Their losses would be in addition to the millions who found their individual coverage cancelled for the same reason.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11 ... ose-plans/
no matter the source the infromation is in most cases is grim on obama care,that should tell us all something right ?
Godfather.
and those words my friend are the "last great act of defiance" when a looser has nothing or no-one left to blame but himself, but if you were him you'd already know that.
Godfather.
so, based on her statement, I would say he has already said 'f you, f all of you'
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... e-all-knew
Awesome that you quoted and posted a link from breitbart a well known unbiased mainstream media site that covers both sides of every issue.
When you do that it makes me want to take your views and opinions very seriously and rethink my own.
Whats next from you...quotes and links from foxnews, rightwingnews.com, redstate.com., etc etc etc ????
:fp: :nono: :fp: :nono: :fp: :nono: :fp: :nono: :fp: :nono:
Yeah i like those....especially good when they use abc.
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
all the dead ones (JFK- G.Washington etc.) ...they can't lie anymore.
Godfather.
I think it is probably a good thing to back fill this report because I have a bad habit of trying to collect as much data as I can before making responding to something. Plus, I have this terrible affliction where i don't believe what one news source reports. Our media is more focused on 'breaking News', than they are on gathering the facts and reporting the full story to us.
...
"Jessica Sanford, 48, discovered that she is no longer eligible for a large subsidy that would have lowered her monthly premium to $169 per month. Instead, Sanford would now be forced to pay nearly four times as much, $621, for coverage...
Sanford works as a court reporter and says she makes just under $50,000 a year. Her 14-year-old son requires a monthly prescription that is expensive because it must come from a compounded pharmacy. She said she thought the originally promised $452 monthly premium subsidy would help her close the financial gap."
(ref: http://news.yahoo.com/obamacare-%E2%80% ... 39697.html )
Summary:
The Insurance Policy is still $621 a month. She was banking on the Government to cover $452 of that bill (about 73% of the $621 total cost), leaving her with a balance of $169 she'd be on the hook for.
My best guess... and i admit, it is purely an unfounded guess... is that her annual income of $50,000 is too high to qualify for the taxpayers to cover. If she was in the $15,000 a year range... that would be different becuase, come on, 15K is a base line Honda Civic, which is an uber-luxury item to someone earning that amount, right?
...
I don't know... is an annual income of $50,000.00 a lot of money... or is it closer to the poverty level?
Is $50,000 a year too high to qualify for the taxpayers to cover 73% for her? I don't know.
...
EDIT** I looked it up. The Median Income in the U.S. for 2012 was $51,000 (all households)
(ref. http://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/p60-245.pdf ) See Table 1 on page 6
...
Is anyone willing to answer this question?
I'll repeat it:
Is an income of $50,000 a year too high to qualify for the taxpayers to cover 73% for her (Jessica Sanford's medical insurance)?
Hail, Hail!!!
First thought that came to my mind: That's all they do is lie, lie in their graves. :fp:
Sorry- I really need a day off- or maybe a drink.
-Ayn Rand
That is a pretty good description of American Capitalism today. The 1% so beloved by the Tea Party are making money by making money. There wealth is based upon investments... not production. The market is tilted in their favor, not the workin stiff in a 9 to 5.
Hail, Hail!!!
the people I have interacted with, who are wealthy, have produced goods. goods that consumers buy.
I invest my monies, in businesses that produce a product that people buy...sometimes I sell to quickly, sometimes not soon enough.
if you have clean running water...you are in the 1% of the world. far too many people base their success on money.
They are still out there... in places like China and india. A GIANT working class that will do the work.
Hail, Hail!!!
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
Anyone who outright promotes the message of selfishness and demeans altruism isn't worth attention. Not to mention her followers treat her as if she's a philosophical genius, even though she had a limited philosophical background, she studied only as far as to make her fiction more grandiose, which is why political philosophers generally ignore her. I won't even touch on her view of disabled persons.