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I don't think Unthought Known should be played this much

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    Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Shawshank wrote:
    With all due respect, I was really enjoying the month or two when the OP was In Hiding.
    :lol: I am sure glad I have better things to do with my time than to criticize other Pearl Jam fans, because my life would be pretty sad if I had nothing better to do than lower myself to that level
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    Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Shawshank wrote:
    With all due respect, I was really enjoying the month or two when the OP was In Hiding.
    :lol: I am sure glad I have better things to do with my time than to criticize other Pearl Jam fans, because my life would be pretty sad if I had nothing better to do than lower myself to that level
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,628
    Some of you are just being mean in this thread, and getting personal just because of some comments others are making about a fucking song. I don't get it. You should think about how you are treating others though.
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    vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,075
    all threads take tangents so and as someone who is willing to engage any one who wants to talk about Pearl Jam and I don't hate the song I think it would suck if it becomes a setlist regular, which I define as any song that gets played in at least 50% of the shows, because that comes at the expense of other songs, and as for the playing the song for his kids, because I am hoping that it is the case, because if it isn't it means that they intend on it being one of the more frequently played songs. and I am not sure why my opinion on anything would even matter to you, especially enough to respond

    So why didn't you just say that? Why start the thread so antagonistically? And if your entire point was really that you just hope it's not a setlist regular, couldn't it have been stated that simply?

    Was it necessary to call it a "kids song" or say he's playing it for his daughters?

    I don't care that you have opinions or what they are. It is very tiring to see yet another thread started or written in a way that seems to be begging for argument.

    If you really just wanted to say "I don't think this song should be played that much," you sure started things antagonistically. This place has enough of that. It doesn't need more.

    And sure, I'll play forum police.
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    Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Some of you are just being mean in this thread, and getting personal just because of some comments others are making about a fucking song. I don't get it. You should think about how you are treating others though.
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    Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    vant0037 wrote:
    all threads take tangents so and as someone who is willing to engage any one who wants to talk about Pearl Jam and I don't hate the song I think it would suck if it becomes a setlist regular, which I define as any song that gets played in at least 50% of the shows, because that comes at the expense of other songs, and as for the playing the song for his kids, because I am hoping that it is the case, because if it isn't it means that they intend on it being one of the more frequently played songs. and I am not sure why my opinion on anything would even matter to you, especially enough to respond

    So why didn't you just say that? Why start the thread so antagonistically? And if your entire point was really that you just hope it's not a setlist regular, couldn't it have been stated that simply?

    Was it necessary to call it a "kids song" or say he's playing it for his daughters?

    I don't care that you have opinions or what they are. It is very tiring to see yet another thread started or written in a way that seems to be begging for argument.

    If you really just wanted to say "I don't think this song should be played that much," you sure started things antagonistically. This place has enough of that. It doesn't need more.

    And sure, I'll play forum police.
    so you are W.M.A.? police? really have to Go there? fine Mr.Police
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    vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,075
    so you are W.M.A.? police? really have to Go there? fine Mr.Police

    This isn't the first time this kind of thing has happened and you know it.

    If you've got an opinion, that's wonderful. State it in a way that doesn't beg for argument. Who they play songs for is irrelevant.

    And to preserve your topic integrity - for what it's worth: the band will play what they want to play. Get over it. See? I didn't even mention his daughters. ;)
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    Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I like unthought known.
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    JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    I like unthought known.

    And me. I like it in the song when it crescendos to the gems and rhinestones line. It is a nice buildup, like in Given to Fly.
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    Love the song. My wife and I were at the EV solo show in Newark where he debuted it after writing it the night before in his hotel room. I think it's a great live song
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    Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    vant0037 wrote:
    so you are W.M.A.? police? really have to Go there? fine Mr.Police

    This isn't the first time this kind of thing has happened and you know it.

    If you've got an opinion, that's wonderful. State it in a way that doesn't beg for argument. Who they play songs for is irrelevant.

    And to preserve your topic integrity - for what it's worth: the band will play what they want to play. Get over it. See? I didn't even mention his daughters. ;)
    true, and the hostility is all in one direction, it is always you towards me, maybe that is who you are, and I am not going to try to change you, so if it makes you feel better to criticize me than have at it, I am not going to return it, I want to be a better person than that
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    vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,075
    true, and the hostility is all in one direction, it is always you towards me, maybe that is who you are, and I am not going to try to change you, so if it makes you feel better to criticize me than have at it, I am not going to return it, I want to be a better person than that

    I have no idea what you're talking about. This isn't anything personal. Your opinions are welcomed and valued. Your antagonism is not.
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    Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
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    Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    vant0037 wrote:
    true, and the hostility is all in one direction, it is always you towards me, maybe that is who you are, and I am not going to try to change you, so if it makes you feel better to criticize me than have at it, I am not going to return it, I want to be a better person than that

    I have no idea what you're talking about. This isn't anything personal. Your opinions are welcomed and valued. Your antagonism is not.
    whatever, you know what I am talking about, but I am going down to your level, and it is only antagonistic if you are weak minded enough to allow yourself to be antagonized
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    vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,075
    whatever, you know what I am talking about, but I am going down to your level, and it is only antagonistic if you are weak minded enough to allow yourself to be antagonized

    No dude, I really don't know what you're talking about. I know you posted an antagonistic thread about Betterman before, it got people riled up, and now here's a thread about Unthought Known.

    I'm just telling you that it (1) has nothing to do with you personally, and (2) everything to do with the way you wrote this thread. It's antagonistic. You get what you put out in the world, and if you think there's nothing wrong with how you approach certain topics, so be it. Carry on. My guess is you will continue to have these discussions. At some point, there's only one common thread in it all.
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    Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    vant0037 wrote:
    whatever, you know what I am talking about, but I am going down to your level, and it is only antagonistic if you are weak minded enough to allow yourself to be antagonized

    No dude, I really don't know what you're talking about. I know you posted an antagonistic thread about Betterman before, it got people riled up, and now here's a thread about Unthought Known.

    I'm just telling you that it (1) has nothing to do with you personally, and (2) everything to do with the way you wrote this thread. It's antagonistic. You get what you put out in the world, and if you think there's nothing wrong with how you approach certain topics, so be it. Carry on. My guess is you will continue to have these discussions. At some point, there's only one common thread in it all.
    yeah a lot of weak minded people, I never make it personal, we are talking about music, but the personal attacks are just sad
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    Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    vant0037 wrote:
    whatever, you know what I am talking about, but I am going down to your level, and it is only antagonistic if you are weak minded enough to allow yourself to be antagonized

    No dude, I really don't know what you're talking about. I know you posted an antagonistic thread about Betterman before, it got people riled up, and now here's a thread about Unthought Known.

    I'm just telling you that it (1) has nothing to do with you personally, and (2) everything to do with the way you wrote this thread. It's antagonistic. You get what you put out in the world, and if you think there's nothing wrong with how you approach certain topics, so be it. Carry on. My guess is you will continue to have these discussions. At some point, there's only one common thread in it all.
    yeah a lot of weak minded people, I never make it personal, we are talking about music, but the personal attacks are just sad, if it really effects you that much just hit ignore, I am here to talk about my favorite band with other cool people, and that is it
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    vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,075
    yeah a lot of weak minded people, I never make it personal, we are talking about music, but the personal attacks are just sad

    I have not personally attacked anyone. It seems implying someone's weak-minded would be a "personal attack," but whatever. You get what you put out in the world.

    Good luck man.
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    Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    vant0037 wrote:
    yeah a lot of weak minded people, I never make it personal, we are talking about music, but the personal attacks are just sad

    I have not personally attacked anyone. It seems implying someone's weak-minded would be a "personal attack," but whatever. You get what you put out in the world.

    Good luck man.
    likewise
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    Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,346
    I think now that we have Lightning Bolt, I can live without UK. Never really got into it and I think LB is just about the same song, but a little more fresh :P But I won't complain. They can play whatever the heck they want, I will still have a great time ...
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    ShawshankShawshank Posts: 1,018
    Shawshank wrote:
    With all due respect, I was really enjoying the month or two when the OP was In Hiding.
    :lol: I am sure glad I have better things to do with my time than to criticize other Pearl Jam fans, because my life would be pretty sad if I had nothing better to do than lower myself to that level

    You're right. What I said was horribly rude, and for that I apologize. Seriously.
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    Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Shawshank wrote:
    Shawshank wrote:
    With all due respect, I was really enjoying the month or two when the OP was In Hiding.
    :lol: I am sure glad I have better things to do with my time than to criticize other Pearl Jam fans, because my life would be pretty sad if I had nothing better to do than lower myself to that level

    You're right. What I said was horribly rude, and for that I apologize. Seriously.
    no problem, apology accepted, that takes a lot of heart. Pearl Jam rules and that is why we are all here
    here this is for you enjoy, I really mean it


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    f-bombf-bomb Posts: 99
    It's an amazing song. Play away.

    They always have to be considering a new 'staple' to the lineup. UK qualifies as far as I am concerned.

    Ain't it funny when things change so much, it's all state of mind?
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    Big Bank HankBig Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION HERE WITH OUT DRAMA?

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    Love the song! I also like gonna see my friend off backspacer quite a bit. :D
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    Unthought Known both nights in Philly was alot better than Amongst the Waves putting a dent in night 2's setlist.
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