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UPDATED! Wrigley VARIANT WINNER: $ Support the Troops

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    BUMP For My Brother From Another Mother
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    jlaustinjlaustin Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,355
    Amazed at the generosity of the donor and all of your hard work elwayvedder! :clap:

    Donation on its way!
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    Top!!! ;)
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    Pm me the info, you know im in :D
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,269
    this is really great thing to do!!awesome!
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,269
    oh and good luck to all!!
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    LoveBoatCaptainDaveLoveBoatCaptainDave san antonio,tx Posts: 461
    count me in!! pm sent
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    pm sent dave. as always, amazing work!
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    JexJex Posts: 283
    If it isn't a big pain in the but to do, you should post how much money this thing has raised. I may be the only one who would find that interesting but either way its a bump.
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    Bumpage :D:D:D
    I'll keep takin' punches until their will grows tired... Hey I won't change direction and I won't change my mind.......
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    DavidDDavidD Posts: 2,448
    Jex wrote:
    If it isn't a big pain in the but to do, you should post how much money this thing has raised. I may be the only one who would find that interesting but either way its a bump.

    I think he hit his goal off $800 a long time ago and still climbing. This poster will bring a good chunk of change for the troops. Good luck to all that have donated.
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    PJCubsPJCubs Posts: 291
    Bump!
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    elwayvedderelwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,056
    DavidD wrote:
    Jex wrote:
    If it isn't a big pain in the but to do, you should post how much money this thing has raised. I may be the only one who would find that interesting but either way its a bump.

    I think he hit his goal off $800 a long time ago and still climbing. This poster will bring a good chunk of change for the troops. Good luck to all that have donated.
    BUMP.

    Indeed and then some. The generosity and giving in this little community we have is amazing. I am truly amazed at the level of where everyone just loves giving to others and to each other.
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    juddboz80juddboz80 Posts: 2,141
    Bump!!
    Cant buy what i want cause its free....
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    LoveBoatCaptainDaveLoveBoatCaptainDave san antonio,tx Posts: 461
    Bump to the top!!
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    elwayvedderelwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,056
    This is doing so amazingly well thanks to all your generosity that I'm adding a handful of runner up prizes as I wish I could give something to everyone who contributed to the raffle. More to come, check back and stay tuned!!
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    juddboz80juddboz80 Posts: 2,141
    This is doing so amazingly well thanks to all your generosity that I'm adding a handful of runner up prizes as I wish I could give something to everyone who contributed to the raffle. More to come, check back and stay tuned!!
    I sent u an email bump
    Cant buy what i want cause its free....
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    3days3days Posts: 1,152
    This is awesome! Hope the bidding continues like this... nice work!!!
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    Release EVRelease EV Posts: 2,002
    Dave, I PM'd you to get involved. Good job
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    DavidDDavidD Posts: 2,448
    Keep the donations rolling ,BUMP!!!!!
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    elwayvedderelwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,056
    Let's set the end date to accept entries as Monday Sept 30th, 11:59 PM EST (East Coast, USA time)

    Winner and runner up prizes drawn that week!!

    -EV
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    juddboz80juddboz80 Posts: 2,141
    Let's set the end date to accept entries as Monday Sept 30th, 11:59 PM EST (East Coast, USA time)

    Winner and runner up prizes drawn that week!!

    -EV
    Sounds rigged! :D :shock:

    Just fucking w ya!!!!! Great job to everyone who has donated to a great cause!!!! Amazing thread!!!
    Cant buy what i want cause its free....
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    elwayvedderelwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,056
    juddboz80 wrote:
    Let's set the end date to accept entries as Monday Sept 30th, 11:59 PM EST (East Coast, USA time)

    Winner and runner up prizes drawn that week!!

    -EV
    Sounds rigged! :D :shock:

    Just fucking w ya!!!!! Great job to everyone who has donated to a great cause!!!! Amazing thread!!!

    yep, wait to you see the reaction when Mrs ElwayVedder wins the variant! Just messin with ya. We are both ineligible..
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    juddboz80juddboz80 Posts: 2,141
    juddboz80 wrote:
    Let's set the end date to accept entries as Monday Sept 30th, 11:59 PM EST (East Coast, USA time)

    Winner and runner up prizes drawn that week!!

    -EV
    Sounds rigged! :D :shock:

    Just fucking w ya!!!!! Great job to everyone who has donated to a great cause!!!! Amazing thread!!!

    yep, wait to you see the reaction when Mrs ElwayVedder wins the variant! Just messin with ya. We are both ineligible..
    :D:D:D:D:D
    That's funny shit
    Cant buy what i want cause its free....
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    elwayvedderelwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,056
    edited September 2013
    SZ303389 wrote:
    Really? Perpetuating the "Support the Troops" propaganda? Other examples of pro-war propaganda?...Japanese propaganda during WW II and Hitler getting his people to support his movement. Eddie wold be ashamed of your lack insight. No more war...86 this "raffle" to prevent further embarrassment and your pro-war agenda.

    Consider this...

    Those Who Say "I Support the Troops" Should Just Stop
    By Michael Moore, Open Mike
    04 January 13


    I don't support the troops, America, and neither do you. I am tired of the ruse we are playing on these brave citizens in our armed forces. And guess what - a lot of these soldiers and sailors and airmen and Marines see right through the bull**** of those words, "I support the troops!," spoken by Americans with such false sincerity - false because our actions don't match our words. These young men and women sign up to risk their very lives to protect us - and this is what they get in return:

    1. They get sent off to wars that have NOTHING to do with defending America or saving our lives. They are used as pawns so that the military-industrial complex can make billions of dollars and the rich here can expand their empire. By "supporting the troops," that means I'm supposed to shut up, don't ask questions, do nothing to stop the madness, and sit by and watch thousands of them die? Well, I've done an awful lot to try and end this. But the only way you can honestly say you support the troops is to work night and day to get them out of these hell holes they've been sent to. And what have I done this week to bring the troops home? Nothing. So if I say "I support the troops," don't believe me - I clearly don't support the troops because I've got more important things to do today, like return an iPhone that doesn't work and take my car in for a tune up.

    2. While the troops we claim to "support" are serving their country, bankers who say they too "support the troops," foreclose on the actual homes of these soldiers and evict their families while they are overseas! Have I gone and stood in front of the sheriff's deputy as he is throwing a military family out of their home? No. And there's your proof that I don't "support the troops," because if I did, I would organize mass sit-ins to block the doors of these homes. Instead, I'm having Chilean sea bass tonight.

    3. How many of you who say you "support the troops" have visited a VA hospital to bring aid and comfort to the sick and wounded? I haven't. How many of you have any clue what it's like to deal with the VA? I don't. Therefore, you would be safe to say that I don't "support the troops," and neither do you.

    4. Who amongst you big enthusiastic "supporters of the troops" can tell me the approximate number of service women who have been raped while in the military? Answer: 19,000 (mostly) female troops are raped or sexually assaulted every year by fellow American troops. What have you or I done to bring these criminals to justice? What's that you say - out of sight, out of mind? These women have suffered, and I've done nothing. So don't ever let me get away with telling you I "support the troops" because, sadly, I don't. And neither do you.

    5. Help a homeless vet today? How 'bout yesterday? Last week? Last year? Ever? But I thought you "support the troops!"? The number of homeless veterans is staggering - on any given night, at least 60,000 veterans are sleeping on the streets of the country that proudly "supports the troops." This is disgraceful and shameful, isn't it? And it exposes all those "troop supporters" who always vote against social programs that would help these veterans. Tonight there are at least 12,700 Iraq/Afghanistan veterans homeless and sleeping on the street. I've never lent a helping hand to one of the many vets I've seen sleeping on the street. I can't bear to look, and I walk past them very quickly. That's called not "supporting the troops," which, I guess, I don't - and neither do you.

    6. And you know, the beautiful thing about all this "support" you and I have been giving the troops - they feel this love and support so much, a record number of them are killing themselves every single week. In fact, there are now more soldiers killing themselves than soldiers being killed in combat (323 suicides in 2012 through November vs. about 210 combat deaths). Yes, you are more likely to die by your own hand in the United States military than by al Qaeda or the Taliban. And an estimated eighteen veterans kill themselves each day, or one in five of all U.S. suicides - though no one really knows because we don't bother to keep track. Now, that's what I call support! These troops are really feeling the love, people! Lemme hear you say it again: "I support the troops!" Louder! "I SUPPORT THE TROOPS!!" There, that's better. I'm sure they heard us. Don't forget to fly our flag, wear your flag lapel pin, and never, ever let a service member pass you by without saying, "Thank you for your service!" I'm sure that's all they need to keep from putting a bullet in their heads. Do your best to keep your "support" up for the troops because, God knows, I certainly can't any longer.

    I don't "support the troops" or any of those other hollow and hypocritical platitudes uttered by Republicans and frightened Democrats. Here's what I do support: I support them coming home. I support them being treated well. I support peace, and I beg any young person reading this who's thinking of joining the armed forces to please reconsider. Our war department has done little to show you they won't recklessly put your young life in harm's way for a cause that has nothing to do with what you signed up for. They will not help you once they've used you and spit you back into society. If you're a woman, they will not protect you from rapists in their ranks. And because you have a conscience and you know right from wrong, you do not want yourself being used to kill civilians in other countries who never did anything to hurt us. We are currently involved in at least a half-dozen military actions around the world. Don't become the next statistic so that General Electric can post another record profit - while paying no taxes - taxes that otherwise would be paying for the artificial leg that they've kept you waiting for months to receive.

    I support you, and will try to do more to be there for you. And the best way you can support me - and the ideals our country says it believes in - is to get out of the military as soon as you can and never look back.

    And please, next time some "supporter of the troops" says to you with that concerned look on their face, "I thank you for your service," you have my permission to punch their lights out (figuratively speaking, of course).

    (There is something I've done to support the troops - other than help lead the effort to stop these senseless wars. At the movie theater I run in Michigan, I became the first person in town to institute an affirmative action plan for hiring returning Iraq/Afghanistan vets. I am working to get more businesses in town to join with me in this effort to find jobs for these returning soldiers. I also let all service members in to the movies for free, everyday.)

    You are welcome to your opinion but take it up in AET. You can thank a Vet for giving you the freedom to have your opinion.

    Are you going to have a complaint for PJ, 10c, and The Vitalogy Foundation as well? Check this out big boy:
    http://pearljam.com/activism/vitalogy-f ... nficiaries

    No one is saying we are for war here. What we are for is letting our brave women and men and their families making daily sacrifices so you don't have to make any is that we stand behind them and support them. We have Afghanistan Vets here on this forum that have received our care packages. You go ask them if receiving loving reminders from home while they are in harm's way and a half a world away from their families makes a difference to them or not.

    I'm not going to let the amazing generosity and love from this entire community be derailed by you breaking EV's one commandment. This now makes two threads you broke it. Move on.

    "Either stand behind the troops or get in front of them"
    Post edited by elwayvedder on
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    It sure is easy to blast someone. Its much harder to actively do something to help others.

    Thanks for what you do EV
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    SZ303389 wrote:
    Really? Perpetuating the "Support the Troops" propaganda? Other examples of pro-war propaganda?...Japanese propaganda during WW II and Hitler getting his people to support his movement. Eddie wold be ashamed of your lack insight. No more war...86 this "raffle" to prevent further embarrassment and your pro-war agenda.

    Consider this...

    Those Who Say "I Support the Troops" Should Just Stop
    By Michael Moore, Open Mike
    04 January 13


    I don't support the troops, America, and neither do you. I am tired of the ruse we are playing on these brave citizens in our armed forces. And guess what - a lot of these soldiers and sailors and airmen and Marines see right through the bull**** of those words, "I support the troops!," spoken by Americans with such false sincerity - false because our actions don't match our words. These young men and women sign up to risk their very lives to protect us - and this is what they get in return:

    1. They get sent off to wars that have NOTHING to do with defending America or saving our lives. They are used as pawns so that the military-industrial complex can make billions of dollars and the rich here can expand their empire. By "supporting the troops," that means I'm supposed to shut up, don't ask questions, do nothing to stop the madness, and sit by and watch thousands of them die? Well, I've done an awful lot to try and end this. But the only way you can honestly say you support the troops is to work night and day to get them out of these hell holes they've been sent to. And what have I done this week to bring the troops home? Nothing. So if I say "I support the troops," don't believe me - I clearly don't support the troops because I've got more important things to do today, like return an iPhone that doesn't work and take my car in for a tune up.

    2. While the troops we claim to "support" are serving their country, bankers who say they too "support the troops," foreclose on the actual homes of these soldiers and evict their families while they are overseas! Have I gone and stood in front of the sheriff's deputy as he is throwing a military family out of their home? No. And there's your proof that I don't "support the troops," because if I did, I would organize mass sit-ins to block the doors of these homes. Instead, I'm having Chilean sea bass tonight.

    3. How many of you who say you "support the troops" have visited a VA hospital to bring aid and comfort to the sick and wounded? I haven't. How many of you have any clue what it's like to deal with the VA? I don't. Therefore, you would be safe to say that I don't "support the troops," and neither do you.

    4. Who amongst you big enthusiastic "supporters of the troops" can tell me the approximate number of service women who have been raped while in the military? Answer: 19,000 (mostly) female troops are raped or sexually assaulted every year by fellow American troops. What have you or I done to bring these criminals to justice? What's that you say - out of sight, out of mind? These women have suffered, and I've done nothing. So don't ever let me get away with telling you I "support the troops" because, sadly, I don't. And neither do you.

    5. Help a homeless vet today? How 'bout yesterday? Last week? Last year? Ever? But I thought you "support the troops!"? The number of homeless veterans is staggering - on any given night, at least 60,000 veterans are sleeping on the streets of the country that proudly "supports the troops." This is disgraceful and shameful, isn't it? And it exposes all those "troop supporters" who always vote against social programs that would help these veterans. Tonight there are at least 12,700 Iraq/Afghanistan veterans homeless and sleeping on the street. I've never lent a helping hand to one of the many vets I've seen sleeping on the street. I can't bear to look, and I walk past them very quickly. That's called not "supporting the troops," which, I guess, I don't - and neither do you.

    6. And you know, the beautiful thing about all this "support" you and I have been giving the troops - they feel this love and support so much, a record number of them are killing themselves every single week. In fact, there are now more soldiers killing themselves than soldiers being killed in combat (323 suicides in 2012 through November vs. about 210 combat deaths). Yes, you are more likely to die by your own hand in the United States military than by al Qaeda or the Taliban. And an estimated eighteen veterans kill themselves each day, or one in five of all U.S. suicides - though no one really knows because we don't bother to keep track. Now, that's what I call support! These troops are really feeling the love, people! Lemme hear you say it again: "I support the troops!" Louder! "I SUPPORT THE TROOPS!!" There, that's better. I'm sure they heard us. Don't forget to fly our flag, wear your flag lapel pin, and never, ever let a service member pass you by without saying, "Thank you for your service!" I'm sure that's all they need to keep from putting a bullet in their heads. Do your best to keep your "support" up for the troops because, God knows, I certainly can't any longer.

    I don't "support the troops" or any of those other hollow and hypocritical platitudes uttered by Republicans and frightened Democrats. Here's what I do support: I support them coming home. I support them being treated well. I support peace, and I beg any young person reading this who's thinking of joining the armed forces to please reconsider. Our war department has done little to show you they won't recklessly put your young life in harm's way for a cause that has nothing to do with what you signed up for. They will not help you once they've used you and spit you back into society. If you're a woman, they will not protect you from rapists in their ranks. And because you have a conscience and you know right from wrong, you do not want yourself being used to kill civilians in other countries who never did anything to hurt us. We are currently involved in at least a half-dozen military actions around the world. Don't become the next statistic so that General Electric can post another record profit - while paying no taxes - taxes that otherwise would be paying for the artificial leg that they've kept you waiting for months to receive.

    I support you, and will try to do more to be there for you. And the best way you can support me - and the ideals our country says it believes in - is to get out of the military as soon as you can and never look back.

    And please, next time some "supporter of the troops" says to you with that concerned look on their face, "I thank you for your service," you have my permission to punch their lights out (figuratively speaking, of course).

    (There is something I've done to support the troops - other than help lead the effort to stop these senseless wars. At the movie theater I run in Michigan, I became the first person in town to institute an affirmative action plan for hiring returning Iraq/Afghanistan vets. I am working to get more businesses in town to join with me in this effort to find jobs for these returning soldiers. I also let all service members in to the movies for free, everyday.)

    Probably THE most UNNECESSARY post I've ever encountered on these forums.
    While freedom of speech is everyone's right, this spiel could have been aired and discussed in a more appropriate forum.
    I think we ALL agree that the best scenario would be to have ALL of our loved ones back on home soil - wherever that may be, but the reality is that they aren't.
    SZ303389 - Please try to get out from under your gray cloud and identify this thread for what it is - an UNBELIEVABLY active supporter (of the troops - not war) using a rare and valuable item donated by a VERY generous and selfless person to make a positive difference in the day to day lives of those on foreign soil who can't be with their loved ones.
    Such a great thread and cause Dave - Keep it up!!!
    SZ303389 - Perhaps a little more thought prior to pissing on something you may not agree with would be a better course of action in the future.
    JMHO.
    I'll keep takin' punches until their will grows tired... Hey I won't change direction and I won't change my mind.......
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    pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 14,731
    EV will have encountered that sort of classic misguided anti war nonsense before

    Anyone who knows Dave will know perfectly well how passionately anti war he is. That he rallies to help soldiers in every way possible. He sure as hell doesn't advocate war

    The post above rambled on so badly and really how can one state so many times he doesn't support the troops then claim as a sign off to supporting them where he can ? Kinda odd but then that wouldn't fit in with the cliched cut and paste anti war spiel stated above ...

    Keep it up EV, and lets hope this thread remains firmly on track ...
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