so listened to Phish for the first time..

PJ_Soul · July 2013

Yeah, as I mentioned, it was a 3 night run (not 4), and not at a huge big deal venue either.

GratefulJam wrote:

I don't think any would have done the same as PJ if they'd been at Wrigley (partly because I don't think any other band would have had the same pull at Wrigley Field as Eddie did).

Plus Phish was a 4 show run as i recall. Wrigley was a one shot deal, plus Phish tour consatantly, or at least it seems.

PJ_Soul wrote:

YLed2 wrote:

Didn't Phish cancel their show on Friday night in Chicago?

Didn't PJ play until 2 AM after the delay?

Oh yeah....

Yup.... although to be fair, I was at the venue, and there was absolutely nowhere to take cover like we had at Wrigley, and no public transit options that I saw (even with good weather at a normal ending time it was impossible to get a cab, and no train or buses that I saw). If it was lightning they were worried about, I'm not sure there was much of a choice if the goal was to keep people safe, since there was nowhere within maybe a mile for them to wait safely unless they had a car to sit in. And there were very limited food and drink options, all of which were in pretty shaky tents. Plus, the venue has a lawn that would have turned into a horrible mud pit.

PJ had it good with a building that had plenty of food and water in it and was a safe and dry place for everyone to wait. Plus, they were doing 3 nights at a fairly random venue, not a one night only show at Wrigley. They weren't under the same pressure to go back on. If PJ were in the exact same circumstances as Phish, they would have cancelled too.... Not that it wasn't amazing that they actually did play until 2am. While I think PJ would have done the same as Phish if they'd been in the same boat, I don't think any would have done the same as PJ if they'd been at Wrigley (partly because I don't think any other band would have had the same pull at Wrigley Field as Eddie did).

63schoefflin · July 2013

Yeah they were kicked off, they didn't opt to not come back by choice. It's like a 15 minute sprint to find cover at that venue. The one night only meant that PJ was riding that out and pulling any kind of strings they could to play.

And they also played an entire other set on Saturday to make up for it...I forget what the time was but I think it was around a 4 hour show? Someone might know better though.

PJ > Phish
Mike = Absolute Beast
Trey > Mike

Just saying...

mca47 · July 2013

I actually really like Phish.

I never pop in a Phish album if I'm listening to tunes at home, but their live shows are awesome! Trey is phenomenal! So much fun live!

GirlLovesPJ · July 2013

StuffnJunk wrote:

they ain't for everybody

they used to be tied with PJ as my favorite band, but my love for them has cooled down over the years and my love for PJ hasn't

BUT..

Phish are the main reason i've never considered Mike McCready a "guitar god" the way most people around here do

Trey Anastasio from Phish has more guitar mojo in one of his turds than Mike has in his whole body

discuss.

When Dimi sees this, all hell's gonna break loose!

(And rightfully so!)

PJ_Soul · July 2013

JonnyPistachio wrote:

pjradio wrote:

they are not my cup of tea, at all, but I respect the musicianship

This is kinda how I feel. I have two close friends who are big Phish fans and always trying to convert me. I think Trey is amazing, but the songs as a whole get boring after a bit. But to compare trey to Mike is weird. They are both awesome, but with completely different roles and styles.

Yeah, that's what it is. The songs get boring after a while. A lot of them sounds very much alike. But again, if you go to a show, you won't get bored. I frankly barely even watched the band or payed much attention to what they were playing - whatever it was it kept me dancing the whole time, but in a distracted kind of way). I was having way too much fun watching the crowd to care about the music (and Eddie was there doing the same thing and seemed to really be enjoying it as well).

StuffnJunk · July 2013

Mike = UFC Champion

Trey = Jedi

PJ_Soul · July 2013

63schoefflin wrote:

Yeah they were kicked off, they didn't opt to not come back by choice. It's like a 15 minute sprint to find cover at that venue. The one night only meant that PJ was riding that out and pulling any kind of strings they could to play.

And they also played an entire other set on Saturday to make up for it...I forget what the time was but I think it was around a 4 hour show? Someone might know better though.

PJ > Phish
Mike = Absolute Beast
Trey > Mike

Just saying...

I didn't hear Trey do anything better than Mike during that 4 hour show.

pearljam133 · July 2013

I love Mike but its true....anyone who has the slighest bit of musical knowledge knows Trey is in an entire different league than Mike. Trey can jam, maybe if PJ would let Mike loose more often but that'll never happen. Mike's definitely the best guitarist out of the whole 90s class though. Too many people on here strictly listen to PJ, SG, AiC and the other "grunge" bands. So they won't understand Phish or how a song can elapse 4 minutes lol.

Backspacer_Backer · July 2013

I have never bothered to listen to a Phish song on purpose. I already know what they are. If I ever decide to do shrooms again and they are playing a live show nearby, I'd probably go. That is about it.

GM151575 · July 2013

Ha funny you brought this up. I was dragged to their show here in NJ a few weeks ago. Luckily, I didn't have to pay for it, and had a good amount of beer. To me, it all just blended together into background noise, and I don't even think I would remember a song if I heard it again. Not my thing, to me I think a good amount just go for the "atmosphere" and/or are hippy posers.

weekapaug19 · July 2013

StuffnJunk wrote:

Mike = UFC Champion

Trey = Jedi

this.

mike would probably admit trey is a whole league above him (but mike is my fav. member of PJ

and you can't compare the two bands, they are completely different styles of music.

guacamolejoe · July 2013

Backspacer_Backer wrote:

I have never bothered to listen to a Phish song on purpose. I already know what they are. If I ever decide to do shrooms again and they are playing a live show nearby, I'd probably go. That is about it.

:shh: ..................................... :shifty:

PJ_Soul · July 2013

pearljam133 wrote:

I love Mike but its true....anyone who has the slighest bit of musical knowledge knows Trey is in an entire different league than Mike. Trey can jam, maybe if PJ would let Mike loose more often but that'll never happen. Mike's definitely the best guitarist out of the whole 90s class though. Too many people on here strictly listen to PJ, SG, AiC and the other "grunge" bands. So they won't understand Phish or how a song can elapse 4 minutes lol.

I have a lot of musical knowledge and disagree. Trey is skilled, but doesn't have as much soul in his playing as Mike, and that makes Mike better. Soul is an important factor... Not that Trey has none, but I don't think he's in the same ballpark with mike as far as that goes.

jmosher · July 2013

A friend of mine is a big Phish fan. He loves their audience bootlegs and plays them at work. After about 4 hours of Phish I asked him; "Has this been the same song this whole time?" And I'm not kidding.

Although they did do a couple Floyd covers that were pretty damn good. I'll stick with PJ.

Jeremy

pearljam133 · July 2013

PJ_Soul wrote:

pearljam133 wrote:

I love Mike but its true....anyone who has the slighest bit of musical knowledge knows Trey is in an entire different league than Mike. Trey can jam, maybe if PJ would let Mike loose more often but that'll never happen. Mike's definitely the best guitarist out of the whole 90s class though. Too many people on here strictly listen to PJ, SG, AiC and the other "grunge" bands. So they won't understand Phish or how a song can elapse 4 minutes lol.

I have a lot of musical knowledge and disagree. Trey is skilled, but doesn't have as much soul in his playing as Mike, and that makes Mike better. Soul is an important factor... Not that Trey has none, but I don't think he's in the same ballpark with mike as far as that goes.

Dude, Mike's solos rarely go over 1:30 minutes. You can't show too much "soul" in that amount of time. Trey has much more soul, and much more emotion in his playing style. Not bashing Mike, I love Mike but it's just not a good comparison. Black rips my heart out when Mike solos on it.....

frisbiec · July 2013

SVRDhand13 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNHIFM0Y87c

to be fair, PJ can "shred" too:

http://youtu.be/HHHtFcpi8V0

Mamasan Bren · July 2013

I like em both. I saw Phish live for the first time in '94 and PJ in '95. I last saw them both last week in Chicago and loved it. They're just different styles. Mike and Trey are both world-class. Comparisons are odious at this point. Phish is celebrating their 30th year as a band with nothing more than their normal summer tour run, and like PJ just announced fall dates. I love their Halloween show tradition of covering an entire band's album as they've done with the Stones Exile on Main St., The Who's Quadrophenia, the Beatles' White Album, the Talking Heads' Remain in Light etc. Trey has a ton of soul.

Scroll from A to Z and look at all of the covers they've done:
http://phish.net/song/

Another thread on them already done:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=199067

A post I did in a different thread with a cool interview link:

Here's an interview with our man Trey that aired on PBS yesterday. I found it to be quite cool. He comments on his side projects and the worthiness of his time spent doing them, which perhaps can give us an idea about why our five guys all are doing their things. He also talks on changes in the music industry. BTW this is Phish's 30th year! Some nice quotes:

"I watch the audience all night. I want people to have a good time. I want people to be in a state of release. It's a reason for living for me. If I see somebody lit up in the audience, that's enough for me. It's not really about the band playing well. I want to see somebody momentarily released from the drudgery of normal life."

"Music saved my life....Music has always been there for me. It's always been a healthy escape for me and parachute when things are going wrong. If I can provide a tiny bit of that for somebody else, nothing could make me happier."

http://www.relix.com/blogs/picks-and-pa ... -interview

StuffnJunk · July 2013

rather than just say cutesy little things putting Mike down, let me explain more...i think my issues with Mike's solos is there isn't much melodic substance...he mostly does a lot of fast 'deedly deedly deedly dee" stuff in solos like Even Flow

one of my favorite moments of one of Mike's solos in the Black solo from Lo2L, where towards the end, he kind of does the Black melody line and does a variation on it...that gives me chills

but Trey has it all over Mike in terms of other-worldy guitar skills

rr165892 · July 2013

Oh man the tie dye lovers are gonna go off if you offend Phish.Super boring in my opinion.Yeah dude has chops,But I think Hard to appreciate while bored to death and asleep from a lead that lasts for 2 hrs.Each to their own,just not for me I guess.Give me Mccready any day.

JK36392 · July 2013

in not a big phish guy, but love jam band music. I respect that they gave a partial refund for that Friday night show and then played 3 sets Saturday... just saying.

so listened to Phish for the first time..

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