All it takes is a sharpie, a piece of paper, and a pen...

ambrasjes

I'm Loving it!

crazygeo

GA means where ever you may roam....
that's how I see it, always an interesting time
gonna see my friends

DewieCox

If this is a way to save a spot in line for a few minutes so people can make quick runs it sounds awesome. If it stops people from moving forward to open spaces during or before the show once people are in the pit, it's a crock of shit.

It really reeks of a "I regular the PJ message board, so I'm a better fan" mindset. Most people aren't gonna ask about a list that saves their spot.

mleach

All I can say is GREAT JOB to the hand full of people that I got to hang out with at 6 am in the morning! Met some new friends that I will treasure forever... It was my first time on the rail and I owe it all to you guys.. My buddy Jack got a first hand view of what the pearl jam family is all about.. Thanks again Graham along with everyone else for a great time!!

Mark from Monroe Mi

crazygeo

If this is a way to save a spot in line for a few minutes so people can make quick runs it sounds awesome. If it stops people from moving forward to open spaces during or before the show once people are in the pit, it's a crock of shit.

It really reeks of a "I regular the PJ message board, so I'm a better fan" mindset. Most people aren't gonna ask about a list that saves their spot.

Don't see it happening in My Pit area that I will be at....I'm gonna rock and hopefully won't be a crock

P.S sorry in advance

morello

Just a quick snag post. I'l be aiming for rail in Nov/Dec so count me in for however it gets organised.

Please note: still ISO 1x 10c GA for Portland & 2 for LA2, Oakland & vancouver.

Get_Right

DewieCox wrote:

If this is a way to save a spot in line for a few minutes so people can make quick runs it sounds awesome. If it stops people from moving forward to open spaces during or before the show once people are in the pit, it's a crock of shit.

It really reeks of a "I regular the PJ message board, so I'm a better fan" mindset. Most people aren't gonna ask about a list that saves their spot.

I agree 100%. And many possibilities to assign numbers without someone being there.

It allows people to show up get a number and go on their merry way till they need to be back in line.
You want to be up front, you wait in line. No saving spots or allowing ticket partners to join those in line.

Understood that people need to pee. Fine 10 min breaks ok, but none of this I need to go get merch or a shower BS.

presentents

This is so ridiculous! This isnt the DMV its a rock band. Here's how my night went. I got there at 5:30 walked to the home plate entrance gates opened at 5:40 walked right in, I didnt cut the line was short because there was a road. Proceeded to shoot the shit with some fans and my buddy and casually made my way to the field, got held up having to show my ticket and to get a green band, then I ended up 5 deep between Ed and Jeff. I spent all day eating deep dish, hanging at the hotel having some drinks, casual day and still was closer than I'd ever dream. Then the rain happens "oh no must panic about losing my spot!". Nope sure didnt, shit happens. So in the hustle of getting people out i get pushed into what i quickly realized was the VIP area, well I thought "hell i'll stay here till they kick me out", Chris Chelios had a crew of younger guys that where dressed similar to me and when they got ushered backstage the security guard told me to follow them, who was i to argue. I spent the whole rain delay backstage sitting on Jeff's flight cases, eating free ice cream, and talking to the guys that i got mixed in with which turned out to be the Chicago Blackhawks. So then we get to go back, once again no rush, ended a little father back but still within 20-30 feet of the stage. Moral of that story, life happens, giving numbers to try and guarantee yourself an experience is keeping you from enjoying what your experience could've been. Also if GA was full of rabid fans your spot wouldnt matter because we would all be moving and enjoying it, Iam blaming the delay but GA was BORING, a few fist pumps and about 3% actually moving. Holding on to the rail for dear life so you might get a pick or a high five or a $10 tambourine seems like not being able to see the forest for the trees.

bfbeck3

I'm sure I missed this somewhere, but the GA tix are just for 10C members, right? I, too, am going to Charlotte and was hoping to be surrounded by fellow 10C members and not a bunch of knuckle dragging, mouth breathers who happened to win tix to the show by being the fifth caller after the Nickelback song.

Also, how many folks are going to be in the GA area? Not looking to be on the rail, but pretty close would be ideal.

Thanks for the information.

aNiMaL

I agree with those who think this "list" idea is kind of stupid. Especially since it is not official at all. It wreaks of entitled fans screaming "I was here first!"

What happens when say the person with number 5 in line leaves for hours, then comes back to take his fifth spot in line?

If I want to be "on the rail" at the show, I will make my way there. People come and people go in GA areas. It is not rocket science. As people ebb and flow, opportunities arise.

pdalowsky

aNiMaL wrote:

I agree with those who think this "list" idea is kind of stupid. Especially since it is not official at all. It wreaks of entitled fans screaming "I was here first!"

What happens when say the person with number 5 in line leaves for hours, then comes back to take his fifth spot in line?

If I want to be "on the rail" at the show, I will make my way there. People come and people go in GA areas. It is not rocket science. As people ebb and flow, opportunities arise.

You don't and won't see many leave the key barrier spots though

Evensteven

I'm getting a catherder put in for the shows so I can pee in a bag and not have to leave GA.

Suziemay

presentents wrote:

This is so ridiculous! This isnt the DMV its a rock band. Here's how my night went. I got there at 5:30 walked to the home plate entrance gates opened at 5:40 walked right in, I didnt cut the line was short because there was a road. Proceeded to shoot the shit with some fans and my buddy and casually made my way to the field, got held up having to show my ticket and to get a green band, then I ended up 5 deep between Ed and Jeff. I spent all day eating deep dish, hanging at the hotel having some drinks, casual day and still was closer than I'd ever dream. Then the rain happens "oh no must panic about losing my spot!". Nope sure didnt, shit happens. So in the hustle of getting people out i get pushed into what i quickly realized was the VIP area, well I thought "hell i'll stay here till they kick me out", Chris Chelios had a crew of younger guys that where dressed similar to me and when they got ushered backstage the security guard told me to follow them, who was i to argue. I spent the whole rain delay backstage sitting on Jeff's flight cases, eating free ice cream, and talking to the guys that i got mixed in with which turned out to be the Chicago Blackhawks. So then we get to go back, once again no rush, ended a little father back but still within 20-30 feet of the stage. Moral of that story, life happens, giving numbers to try and guarantee yourself an experience is keeping you from enjoying what your experience could've been. Also if GA was full of rabid fans your spot wouldnt matter because we would all be moving and enjoying it, Iam blaming the delay but GA was BORING, a few fist pumps and about 3% actually moving. Holding on to the rail for dear life so you might get a pick or a high five or a $10 tambourine seems like not being able to see the forest for the trees.

I'm glad you had a good time your way. I had a good time my way which involved investing the time and energy to get on the rail. You are assuming the reason we want to be on the rail is to get a pick, high five or tambourine. I got none of those things. Well, actually, I did get a pick but gave it to my friend. Being up close to a band is how I enjoy live shows, so please don't tell me it's ridiculous unless it somehow has a negative impact on your enjoyment, which it doesn't sound like it does.

pdalowsky

Evensteven wrote:

I'm getting a catherder put in for the shows so I can pee in a bag and not have to leave GA.

You can't hold your pee a few hours ?

aNiMaL

pdalowsky wrote:

aNiMaL wrote:

I agree with those who think this "list" idea is kind of stupid. Especially since it is not official at all. It wreaks of entitled fans screaming "I was here first!"

What happens when say the person with number 5 in line leaves for hours, then comes back to take his fifth spot in line?

If I want to be "on the rail" at the show, I will make my way there. People come and people go in GA areas. It is not rocket science. As people ebb and flow, opportunities arise.

You don't and won't see many leave the key barrier spots though

I used to see it all the time at PJ shows.

Plus I'd rather be a few back from the rail. Better sound for sure and generally a better view of the entire stage. But, to each their own. My point being, if you want the rail, an opportunity will arise without having your name on some fan's "line list." Survival of the fittest.

pdalowsky

Survival of the fittest ? This ain't rancid dude.

Suziemay

aNiMaL wrote:

I agree with those who think this "list" idea is kind of stupid. Especially since it is not official at all. It wreaks of entitled fans screaming "I was here first!"

Yes, because if they were there first then they should go in first, not sure why that is so hard to comprehend. Are you saying someone who strolls along when doors open should be able to elbow their way through and get in front of the person who was willing to wait since 3am? That is how fights and worse still, stampedes, happen. There is nothing official, unfortunately, so this is the best we've got. It's not perfect but it's something. The alternative is worse, in my opinion.

aNiMaL wrote:

What happens when say the person with number 5 in line leaves for hours, then comes back to take his fifth spot in line?

Did not happen at Wrigley. This happened on the Europe tour. What ended up happening is person numbers 6 and onward would have been all over it and gotten them crossed off the list.

aNiMaL wrote:

If I want to be "on the rail" at the show, I will make my way there. People come and people go in GA areas. It is not rocket science. As people ebb and flow, opportunities arise.

If a spot opens up by all means. If you are talking about pushing to get your way in front, that is unsafe and not cool. And guess what, the band does not endorse this behavior either.

aNiMaL

pdalowsky wrote:

Survival of the fittest ? This ain't rancid dude.

It is a rock concert though. This is not Justin Beiber. If you want personal space, you should be in reserved seats. If you want to be on the rail, get used to the crowd pushing behind you. Just the facts of GA.

pdalowsky

Also it's good you don't need the list ... But the fact so many people participating in it shows it is considered useful and helpful ....and that the barrier is a popular spot.

There's always the minority though

I don't see how the list is remotely elitist though or a whip it out biggest fan contest either ... That makes absolutely no sense.

aNiMaL

When did PJ fans become so soft an so serious? Relax, rock the fuck out. Do not expect personal space in GA, especially the closer to the stage you are.