And if you really dislike reading my posts, and Polaris's posts, so much, then either stop reading the MT, or put me and him on ignore.
Again, you don't get to dictate who does or does not have a voice on this forum.
Still not the same as "Get off the Train if you disagree." You've already stated that you have a problem with certain posters - me and Polaris X, therefore 'if you really dislike reading my posts, and Polaris's posts, so much, then either stop reading the MT, or put me and him on ignore'. Pretty fucking simple really.
if you live in america and you dont like how its government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... go somewhere else
if you live somewhere else and you dont like how the american government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... shut the fu(k up and worry about your own country
Do you really prescribe to the "if you don't like it, get out" attitude?? What happened to trying to make things better when you see something wrong happening?? Thank god all the important people who changed history for the better didn't have this attitude! I thought that dissent and protest was a very important part of democracy...
He was being sarcastic, and paraphrasing Jimmy V. Jimmy V has a problem with people - me being one - criticizing 'America'. He apparently doesn't have a problem with 'valid critics' of America making 'valid criticisms', but if somebody - i.e, me - makes too many criticisms of America, then it shows they are filled with 'clear prejudice', and 'repulsive hatred' towards America and Americans.
I'm wondering where the threshold lies in his calculations: I.e, how many criticisms of American government policies (insert 'America' and 'Americans') can somebody make before they tip over the threshold into hate and prejudice. Maybe he can enlighten us all on this point?
Actually he was doing a very poor job of paraphrasing me. Just to be clear.
I think judging hate is much like judging porn. I cannot define it but I know it when I see it.
And if you really dislike reading my posts, and Polaris's posts, so much, then either stop reading the MT, or put me and him on ignore.
Again, you don't get to dictate who does or does not have a voice on this forum.
Still not the same as "Get off the Train if you disagree." You've already stated that you have a problem with certain posters - me and Polaris X, therefore 'if you really dislike reading my posts, and Polaris's posts, so much, then either stop reading the MT, or put me and him on ignore'. Pretty fucking simple really.
Yeah, totally different. :roll:
I have a problem with prejudice. Regardless of who posts it. Particularly when it is accepted as OK. But we have been over this ground before.
i once had a hand held police scanner. with the code book you can dial in a code & listen in on your immediate neighborhood with those who use cordless phones. we tried it, it works. law enforcement listens to phone conversations constantly & you don't have to be a big time drug dealer and or in the mob for them to listen in on your shit.
cell phone jammer http://youtu.be/VHVfGRpLLmg
stick a cell jammer under your enemies sofa. he or she will never receive or make another cell phone call from their home again
if you live in america and you dont like how its government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... go somewhere else
if you live somewhere else and you dont like how the american government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... shut the fu(k up and worry about your own country
Do you really prescribe to the "if you don't like it, get out" attitude?? What happened to trying to make things better when you see something wrong happening?? Thank god all the important people who changed history for the better didn't have this attitude! I thought that dissent and protest was a very important part of democracy...
He was being sarcastic, and paraphrasing Jimmy V. Jimmy V has a problem with people - me being one - criticizing 'America'. He apparently doesn't have a problem with 'valid critics' of America making 'valid criticisms', but if somebody - i.e, me - makes too many criticisms of America, then it shows they are filled with 'clear prejudice', and 'repulsive hatred' towards America and Americans.
I'm wondering where the threshold lies in his calculations: I.e, how many criticisms of American government policies (insert 'America' and 'Americans') can somebody make before they tip over the threshold into hate and prejudice. Maybe he can enlighten us all on this point?
I like Jimmy V, and agree with him often. And I don't have a problem with how he's carry on his conversation .... I just don't approve of the idea that people should leave America rather than protesting wrong doings.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I have a problem with prejudice. Regardless of who posts it. Particularly when it is accepted as OK. But we have been over this ground before.
Except the prejudice you keep spouting about doesn't exist. Your own personal little fantasy (grudge) does not give you carte blanche to insult people and derail threads.
I know you're trying your best to disguise your trolling and personal attacks as some sort of moral crusade, but it's still just trolling and personal attacks.
I like Jimmy V, and agree with him often. And I don't have a problem with how he's carry on his conversation .... I just don't approve of the idea that people should leave America rather than protesting wrong doings.
Thanks. Please know that at no point have I ever suggested anyone should leave America rather than protest anything. Despite the "paraphrase".
http://youtu.be/F7oAI6KXxts
tracking folks by way of cell phone. old news. we all know this shit, right? every time I see or hear these stories I feel like tossing my bunk ass cell into the river
i tried my best ... if one or many members on this board discount my views because they feel i am biased or hold prejudice ... there isn't much I can do about that ... so, be it ... i kinda knew this would happen and i did fall for his bait early in this thread which i knew would derail the topic ... i'll take full responsibility ...
as was the case in the boston explosion thread - the issue of civil liberties is critical and i think once we, as a society, give them up so freely ... it only leads to bad things ...
to be fair, I think that speaking about members and not the content of the thread, which has been going on for a few pages now, actually is.
The target of my post is prejudice and the ideology it breeds. There has been much back and forth, yes, but I have not been posting alone in a vacuum.
No, the target of your posts is certain members of the board who you've decided to label 'prejudiced' - though without managing to supply any evidence whatsoever to support your little fantasy (grudge) - and to then derail a thread by attempting to hammer your lame duck argument home.
to be fair, I think that speaking about members and not the content of the thread, which has been going on for a few pages now, actually is.
The target of my post is prejudice and the ideology it breeds. There has been much back and forth, yes, but I have not been posting alone in a vacuum.
but the target of your posts are off topic and aimed at one or two people on the board, not the topic itself.
The topic was intended to be provocative and as a consequence the discussion went in a direction the OP had not planned on, sure. I don't think that is trolling.
And the issue I am talking about is much larger than just one or two people.
i tried my best ... if one or many members on this board discount my views because they feel i am biased or hold prejudice ... there isn't much I can do about that ... so, be it ... i kinda knew this would happen and i did fall for his bait early in this thread which i knew would derail the topic ... i'll take full responsibility ...
as was the case in the boston explosion thread - the issue of civil liberties is critical and i think once we, as a society, give them up so freely ... it only leads to bad things ...
Sorry if you have become the poster boy for this. I did know you would jump in and roughly what you would say, and hopefully we can disagree on it again in the future. But I do hope no one reads this thread and thinks that this is uniquely a Polaris X-ian problem. It s not.
Sorry if you have become the poster boy for this. I did know you would jump in and roughly what you would say, and hopefully we can disagree on it again in the future. But I do hope no one reads this thread and thinks that this is uniquely a Polaris X-ian problem. It s not.
no need to apologize ... i'm not too concerned what people on this forum perceive me to be ...
i only jumped in because i knew you were referring to me (and you dropped the bait) ... i only jumped in to try and show you that your perceptions are way off base ... but i can only do so much for someone who's made up their mind ... but i do understand why you believe what you believe ... it's sad but i understand ...
again - my recommendation would be to add me as a foe ... no one should be subjected to prejudicial hatred ... free yourself from it ...
The topic was intended to be provocative and as a consequence the discussion went in a direction the OP had not planned on, sure. I don't think that is trolling.
And the issue I am talking about is much larger than just one or two people.
The topic of this thread is government intrusion and the erosion of civil liberties. Everyone reading this board understands that. But you decided to derail the thread by insulting particular members of the board who you have a problem with, based on a lame fantasy that you harbour in your head. You then spent 12 pages trolling, all the while pretending to disguise your personal attacks behind some alleged moral crusade against 'prejudice'.
Though what's even funnier is that you actually think you're fooling anyone.
Sorry if you have become the poster boy for this. I did know you would jump in and roughly what you would say, and hopefully we can disagree on it again in the future. But I do hope no one reads this thread and thinks that this is uniquely a Polaris X-ian problem. It s not.
no need to apologize ... i'm not too concerned what people on this forum perceive me to be ...
i only jumped in because i knew you were referring to me (and you dropped the bait) ... i only jumped in to try and show you that your perceptions are way off base ... but i can only do so much for someone who's made up their mind ... but i do understand why you believe what you believe ... it's sad but i understand ...
again - my recommendation would be to add me as a foe ... no one should be subjected to prejudicial hatred ... free yourself from it ...
The topic was intended to be provocative and as a consequence the discussion went in a direction the OP had not planned on, sure. I don't think that is trolling.
And the issue I am talking about is much larger than just one or two people.
The topic of this thread is government intrusion and the erosion of civil liberties. Everyone reading this board understands that. But you decided to derail the thread by insulting particular members of the board who you have a problem with, based on a lame fantasy that you harbour in your head. You then spent 12 pages trolling, all the while pretending to disguise your personal attacks behind some alleged moral crusade against 'prejudice'.
Though what's even funnier is that you actually think you're fooling anyone.
The topic of this thread was not government intrusion and the erosion of civil rights. If it was you would not have gone with the snide "Is America Really The Land Of The Free" subject, nor followed that up with
Sorry if you have become the poster boy for this. I did know you would jump in and roughly what you would say, and hopefully we can disagree on it again in the future. But I do hope no one reads this thread and thinks that this is uniquely a Polaris X-ian problem. It s not.
no need to apologize ... i'm not too concerned what people on this forum perceive me to be ...
i only jumped in because i knew you were referring to me (and you dropped the bait) ... i only jumped in to try and show you that your perceptions are way off base ... but i can only do so much for someone who's made up their mind ... but i do understand why you believe what you believe ... it's sad but i understand ...
again - my recommendation would be to add me as a foe ... no one should be subjected to prejudicial hatred ... free yourself from it ...
The topic of this thread was not government intrusion and the erosion of civil rights. If it was you would not have gone with the snide "Is America Really The Land Of The Free" subject, nor followed that up with
The topic of this thread was what Byrnzie thinks is wrong with America. You were trying to be provocative and I responded to you in kind.
Nice job at trying to pretend to know what I think, and what my motivations are. Are you 'God'?
You clearly have a problem/grudge with me and are frothing at the mouth to try and provoke me. If I didn't find your lame gibberish so amusing I'd probably fall for the bait and tell you what I really think of you.
In the meantime, this thread is about government intrusion and the erosion of civil liberties. I don't think America is free, and I have many reasons for doing so.
Now stop derailing this thread. Your bullshit became boring a long time ago,
I also heard of nuking your driver's license in the microwave for a few seconds, it is believed that cops can't swipe your card through their computer system with a fried magnetic strip. obviously they can manually type your shit in.
The topic of this thread was not government intrusion and the erosion of civil rights. If it was you would not have gone with the snide "Is America Really The Land Of The Free" subject, nor followed that up with
The topic of this thread was what Byrnzie thinks is wrong with America. You were trying to be provocative and I responded to you in kind.
Nice job at trying to pretend to know what I think, and what my motivations are. Are you 'God'?
You clearly have a problem/grudge with me and are frothing at the mouth to try and provoke me. If I didn't find your lame gibberish so amusing I'd probably fall for the bait and tell you what I really think of you.
In the meantime, this thread is about government intrusion and the erosion of civil liberties. I don't think America is free, and I have many reasons for doing so.
Now stop derailing this thread. Your bullshit became boring a long time ago,
I don't know you. I don't particularly care for the way you carry yourself on this board sometimes, but I don't have a problem with you. I have a problem with your ideas. Not the same thing.
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Still not the same as "Get off the Train if you disagree." You've already stated that you have a problem with certain posters - me and Polaris X, therefore 'if you really dislike reading my posts, and Polaris's posts, so much, then either stop reading the MT, or put me and him on ignore'. Pretty fucking simple really.
Actually he was doing a very poor job of paraphrasing me. Just to be clear.
I think judging hate is much like judging porn. I cannot define it but I know it when I see it.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I thought he did a perfect job of paraphrasing you.
And I know trolling when I see it.
Yeah, totally different. :roll:
I have a problem with prejudice. Regardless of who posts it. Particularly when it is accepted as OK. But we have been over this ground before.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Again, not trolling at all. Haven't been at any point.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
listening in on your neighbors
http://youtu.be/P0WtdWBJwNY
i once had a hand held police scanner. with the code book you can dial in a code & listen in on your immediate neighborhood with those who use cordless phones. we tried it, it works. law enforcement listens to phone conversations constantly & you don't have to be a big time drug dealer and or in the mob for them to listen in on your shit.
cell phone jammer
http://youtu.be/VHVfGRpLLmg
stick a cell jammer under your enemies sofa. he or she will never receive or make another cell phone call from their home again
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Except the prejudice you keep spouting about doesn't exist. Your own personal little fantasy (grudge) does not give you carte blanche to insult people and derail threads.
I know you're trying your best to disguise your trolling and personal attacks as some sort of moral crusade, but it's still just trolling and personal attacks.
Good for you.
to be fair, I think that speaking about members and not the content of the thread, which has been going on for a few pages now, actually is.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Thanks. Please know that at no point have I ever suggested anyone should leave America rather than protest anything. Despite the "paraphrase".
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Exactly. Not only is it trolling, but it's very fucking boring.
The target of my post is prejudice and the ideology it breeds. There has been much back and forth, yes, but I have not been posting alone in a vacuum.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
tracking folks by way of cell phone. old news. we all know this shit, right? every time I see or hear these stories I feel like tossing my bunk ass cell into the river
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
but the target of your posts are off topic and aimed at one or two people on the board, not the topic itself.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
i tried my best ... if one or many members on this board discount my views because they feel i am biased or hold prejudice ... there isn't much I can do about that ... so, be it ... i kinda knew this would happen and i did fall for his bait early in this thread which i knew would derail the topic ... i'll take full responsibility ...
as was the case in the boston explosion thread - the issue of civil liberties is critical and i think once we, as a society, give them up so freely ... it only leads to bad things ...
No, the target of your posts is certain members of the board who you've decided to label 'prejudiced' - though without managing to supply any evidence whatsoever to support your little fantasy (grudge) - and to then derail a thread by attempting to hammer your lame duck argument home.
The topic was intended to be provocative and as a consequence the discussion went in a direction the OP had not planned on, sure. I don't think that is trolling.
And the issue I am talking about is much larger than just one or two people.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Sorry if you have become the poster boy for this. I did know you would jump in and roughly what you would say, and hopefully we can disagree on it again in the future.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
no need to apologize ... i'm not too concerned what people on this forum perceive me to be ...
i only jumped in because i knew you were referring to me (and you dropped the bait) ... i only jumped in to try and show you that your perceptions are way off base ... but i can only do so much for someone who's made up their mind ... but i do understand why you believe what you believe ... it's sad but i understand ...
again - my recommendation would be to add me as a foe ... no one should be subjected to prejudicial hatred ... free yourself from it ...
The topic of this thread is government intrusion and the erosion of civil liberties. Everyone reading this board understands that. But you decided to derail the thread by insulting particular members of the board who you have a problem with, based on a lame fantasy that you harbour in your head. You then spent 12 pages trolling, all the while pretending to disguise your personal attacks behind some alleged moral crusade against 'prejudice'.
Though what's even funnier is that you actually think you're fooling anyone.
The topic of this thread was not government intrusion and the erosion of civil rights. If it was you would not have gone with the snide "Is America Really The Land Of The Free" subject, nor followed that up with
The topic of this thread was what Byrnzie thinks is wrong with America. You were trying to be provocative and I responded to you in kind.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Well, that backfired on me I guess.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
People just going at it and in the meantime Chadwick is desperately trying to stay the course with his submissions.
Nice job at trying to pretend to know what I think, and what my motivations are. Are you 'God'?
You clearly have a problem/grudge with me and are frothing at the mouth to try and provoke me. If I didn't find your lame gibberish so amusing I'd probably fall for the bait and tell you what I really think of you.
In the meantime, this thread is about government intrusion and the erosion of civil liberties. I don't think America is free, and I have many reasons for doing so.
Now stop derailing this thread. Your bullshit became boring a long time ago,
RFID chips in credit/debit cards
how to disable the RFID chip in credit/debit cards
http://youtu.be/e52WfJgXuXE
I also heard of nuking your driver's license in the microwave for a few seconds, it is believed that cops can't swipe your card through their computer system with a fried magnetic strip. obviously they can manually type your shit in.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I do enjoy Chadwick and respect his efforts here today. Good man there.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
funny shit
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I don't know you. I don't particularly care for the way you carry yourself on this board sometimes, but I don't have a problem with you. I have a problem with your ideas. Not the same thing.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."