Not trolling at all. Is prejudice in the modern world not a topic worth discussing? If a particular post serves as as an example of that prejudice - and, again, I do believe you were trying to be provocative far more than you were hoping to discuss civil liberties - doesn't it become a worthwhile discussion?
If this 'prejudice' you keep spouting about is so 'clear', then why is it that only Godfather agrees with you? Funny that. :think:
Feel free to start another thread on the subject of 'prejudice' if you like, and stop derailing this one with your bullshit.
Indeed, "prejudicial hatred" were my words and I stand by them. Hugh, after reading Polaris X's contribution yesterday do you still believe the prejudice I describe does not exist on this board?
I do believe that prejudice does not exist on this board. Prejudice is defined as having an opinion on something without prior knowledge. I have never seen a post on this board, to my recollection, of anyone saying anything bad about the US government and/or its policies without having a reason to state such an issue. I have seen the direct opposite however, Americans thumping their chests about how great America is without anything tangible to back that up.
and hatred is an awfully strong word. I don't think anyone here hates the US. As someone has pointed out numerous times, myself included, hating a geographical location is a preposterous idea. People have issues with the US government and military sticking their noses in the world's business. It wouldn't matter who was doing the sticking; if it were Canada, Britain, or Palestine, Byrnzie et al would still have issue with it. Don't take it personally because it's your government.
My (Canadian) government currently sucks too. But you don't hear much about it because it doesn't affect the world stage nearly as much as the US government does.
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Not trolling at all. Is prejudice in the modern world not a topic worth discussing? If a particular post serves as as an example of that prejudice - and, again, I do believe you were trying to be provocative far more than you were hoping to discuss civil liberties - doesn't it become a worthwhile discussion?
If this 'prejudice' you keep spouting about is so 'clear', then why is it that only Godfather agrees with you? Funny that. :think:
As I said in my original post in this thread, many are blind that this prejudice exists. But a widely accepted prejudice is really no less repulsive when you think about it.
As I said in my original post in this thread, many are blind that this prejudice exists. But a widely accepted prejudice is really no less repulsive when you think about it.
Ah, I see now: only you can see this 'widely accepted', 'clear prejudice', and repulsive 'hatred'. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Allowing the US government cart blanch to monitor your private conversations is a big deal and people should be aware. As such this thread is a perfect topic for MT.
Feel that people get so caught up in their “patriotism” that when one criticises the government they take it as a personal attack on them. It’s not.
I embrace outsiders ideas and views on the US as we get force fed the same manure from our government and news (entertainment) sources.
And fk Israel policy for stealing land and fk the West for supporting it.
So happy I live in the US but there are some really fked up things about this country and its people like Byrnzie brining up the BS that makes this country better.
As I said in my original post in this thread, many are blind that this prejudice exists. But a widely accepted prejudice is really no less repulsive when you think about it.
Ah, I see now: only you can see this 'clear prejudice', and repulsive 'hatred'. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Every idea starts small. Hopefully you can open a few eyes here and there.
As I said in my original post in this thread, many are blind that this prejudice exists. But a widely accepted prejudice is really no less repulsive when you think about it.
Ah, I see now: only you can see this 'clear prejudice', and repulsive 'hatred'. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Every idea starts small. Hopefully you can open a few eyes here and there.
I wish you the best of luck with that. Doesn't look like your lame smear campaign's doing too well at the moment though.
Is pointing out someone's clear prejudice a personal attack? Maybe, maybe not. If someone was a racist or a sexist or a homophone and that person got called out for it, would that constitute a personal attack? But pretending one had been attacked sure would be an easy way out.
Pointing out someone's 'clear prejudice' may not constitute a personal attack, but when no such prejudice exists other than in your head, and when your lame accusation is clearly just a means to smear and insult someone who's views you disagree with, then yes, it is a personal attack. And it also constitutes trolling.
If you have a problem with me then either pm me, or complain to the mods. Stop derailing my thread with your bullshit.
Is pointing out someone's clear prejudice a personal attack? Maybe, maybe not. If someone was a racist or a sexist or a homophone and that person got called out for it, would that constitute a personal attack? But pretending one had been attacked sure would be an easy way out.
Pointing out someone's 'clear prejudice' may not constitute a personal attack, but when no such prejudice exists other than in your head, and when your lame accusation is clearly just a means to smear and insult someone who's views you disagree with, then yes, it is a personal attack. And it also constitutes trolling.
If you have a problem with me then either pm me, or complain to the mods. Stop derailing my thread with your bullshit.
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Now this is agravating.....please make it go away. :shock: :shock: :shock:
Always consider the source. It is really that simple.
soo ... if someone you don't like tells you your house is burning ... you're gonna ignore him?
No, but if that someone seems to be enjoying themselves just a little too much while they tell me my house is burning, I am going to question why that is.
I do believe that prejudice does not exist on this board. Prejudice is defined as having an opinion on something without prior knowledge. I have never seen a post on this board, to my recollection, of anyone saying anything bad about the US government and/or its policies without having a reason to state such an issue. I have seen the direct opposite however, Americans thumping their chests about how great America is without anything tangible to back that up.
and hatred is an awfully strong word. I don't think anyone here hates the US. As someone has pointed out numerous times, myself included, hating a geographical location is a preposterous idea. People have issues with the US government and military sticking their noses in the world's business. It wouldn't matter who was doing the sticking; if it were Canada, Britain, or Palestine, Byrnzie et al would still have issue with it. Don't take it personally because it's your government.
My (Canadian) government currently sucks too. But you don't hear much about it because it doesn't affect the world stage nearly as much as the US government does.
if jimmy v ever reads the cdn poli thread - i'm prejudiced hater of canadians too ...
No, but if that someone seems to be enjoying themselves just a little too much while they tell me my house is burning, I am going to question why that is.
well ... you can spend all that energy on that ... or you can attend to your house ... your call ...
No, but if that someone seems to be enjoying themselves just a little too much while they tell me my house is burning, I am going to question why that is.
well ... you can spend all that energy on that ... or you can attend to your house ... your call ...
Based on his posts recently, I imagine he'd choose to spend more time judging and criticizing the person than addressing the issue at hand.
No, but if that someone seems to be enjoying themselves just a little too much while they tell me my house is burning, I am going to question why that is.
well ... you can spend all that energy on that ... or you can attend to your house ... your call ...
if you live in america and you dont like how its government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... go somewhere else
if you live somewhere else and you dont like how the american government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... shut the fu(k up and worry about your own country
I think Polaris X hates Corporations, never got an Anti-American vibe though.
This thread's been a fun read this morning
Too the Op subject, scary as Fuck! It's getting to the point where i don't even want to make an off color joke about anything, worried i might start flashing on somebody's screen. I have a friend on FB and he posts everything he can find on government control and conspiracy theory's, a couple of days after the Boston Marathon he got a phone call from someone who identified himself as an FBI agent, telling him to knock it off or they be taking a closer look at him. :shock:
and he isn't even one of the more radical people i'm friend's with.
if you live in america and you dont like how its government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... go somewhere else
if you live somewhere else and you dont like how the american government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... shut the fu(k up and worry about your own country
if you live in america and you dont like how its government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... go somewhere else
if you live somewhere else and you dont like how the american government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... shut the fu(k up and worry about your own country
Just a slight twisting of my point here. And, don't forget about "Get off the Train if you disagree."
I think Polaris X hates Corporations, never got an Anti-American vibe though.
This thread's been a fun read this morning
Too the Op subject, scary as Fuck! It's getting to the point where i don't even want to make an off color joke about anything, worried i might start flashing on somebody's screen. I have a friend on FB and he posts everything he can find on government control and conspiracy theory's, a couple of days after the Boston Marathon he got a phone call from someone who identified himself as an FBI agent, telling him to knock it off or they be taking a closer look at him. :shock:
and he isn't even one of the more radical people i'm friend's with.
if you live in america and you dont like how its government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... go somewhere else
if you live somewhere else and you dont like how the american government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... shut the fu(k up and worry about your own country
Do you really prescribe to the "if you don't like it, get out" attitude?? What happened to trying to make things better when you see something wrong happening?? Thank god all the important people who changed history for the better didn't have this attitude! I thought that dissent and protest was a very important part of democracy...
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I think Polaris X hates Corporations, never got an Anti-American vibe though.
This thread's been a fun read this morning
Too the Op subject, scary as Fuck! It's getting to the point where i don't even want to make an off color joke about anything, worried i might start flashing on somebody's screen. I have a friend on FB and he posts everything he can find on government control and conspiracy theory's, a couple of days after the Boston Marathon he got a phone call from someone who identified himself as an FBI agent, telling him to knock it off or they be taking a closer look at him. :shock:
and he isn't even one of the more radical people i'm friend's with.
if you live in america and you dont like how its government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... go somewhere else
if you live somewhere else and you dont like how the american government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... shut the fu(k up and worry about your own country
Do you really prescribe to the "if you don't like it, get out" attitude?? What happened to trying to make things better when you see something wrong happening?? Thank god all the important people who changed history for the better didn't have this attitude! I thought that dissent and protest was a very important part of democracy...
He was being sarcastic, and paraphrasing Jimmy V. Jimmy V has a problem with people - me being one - criticizing 'America'. He apparently doesn't have a problem with 'valid critics' of America making 'valid criticisms', but if somebody - i.e, me - makes too many criticisms of America, then it shows they are filled with 'clear prejudice', and 'repulsive hatred' towards America and Americans.
I'm wondering where the threshold lies in his calculations: I.e, how many criticisms of American government policies (insert 'America' and 'Americans') can somebody make before they tip over the threshold into hate and prejudice. Maybe he can enlighten us all on this point?
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If this 'prejudice' you keep spouting about is so 'clear', then why is it that only Godfather agrees with you? Funny that. :think:
Feel free to start another thread on the subject of 'prejudice' if you like, and stop derailing this one with your bullshit.
I do believe that prejudice does not exist on this board. Prejudice is defined as having an opinion on something without prior knowledge. I have never seen a post on this board, to my recollection, of anyone saying anything bad about the US government and/or its policies without having a reason to state such an issue. I have seen the direct opposite however, Americans thumping their chests about how great America is without anything tangible to back that up.
and hatred is an awfully strong word. I don't think anyone here hates the US. As someone has pointed out numerous times, myself included, hating a geographical location is a preposterous idea. People have issues with the US government and military sticking their noses in the world's business. It wouldn't matter who was doing the sticking; if it were Canada, Britain, or Palestine, Byrnzie et al would still have issue with it. Don't take it personally because it's your government.
My (Canadian) government currently sucks too. But you don't hear much about it because it doesn't affect the world stage nearly as much as the US government does.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
As I said in my original post in this thread, many are blind that this prejudice exists. But a widely accepted prejudice is really no less repulsive when you think about it.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Ah, I see now: only you can see this 'widely accepted', 'clear prejudice', and repulsive 'hatred'. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Feel that people get so caught up in their “patriotism” that when one criticises the government they take it as a personal attack on them. It’s not.
I embrace outsiders ideas and views on the US as we get force fed the same manure from our government and news (entertainment) sources.
And fk Israel policy for stealing land and fk the West for supporting it.
So happy I live in the US but there are some really fked up things about this country and its people like Byrnzie brining up the BS that makes this country better.
Every idea starts small. Hopefully you can open a few eyes here and there.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I wish you the best of luck with that. Doesn't look like your lame smear campaign's doing too well at the moment though.
(just me or is this place strange as all hell this morning?)
Good topic got derailed......pretty bad.
Jimmy V has a problem with me and wants the World to know that I'm filled with hateful, repulsive prejudice against America and Americans.
Good morning. Welcome to the debate. :P
soo ... if someone you don't like tells you your house is burning ... you're gonna ignore him?
No, but if that someone seems to be enjoying themselves just a little too much while they tell me my house is burning, I am going to question why that is.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
if jimmy v ever reads the cdn poli thread - i'm prejudiced hater of canadians too ...
That said, I read "welcome to the debate" as "welcome to the machine".
Indeed
well ... you can spend all that energy on that ... or you can attend to your house ... your call ...
Based on his posts recently, I imagine he'd choose to spend more time judging and criticizing the person than addressing the issue at hand.
More than enough energy for both, thanks.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
if you live in america and you dont like how its government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... go somewhere else
if you live somewhere else and you dont like how the american government operates in the name of and with its citizens money... shut the fu(k up and worry about your own country
This thread's been a fun read this morning
Too the Op subject, scary as Fuck! It's getting to the point where i don't even want to make an off color joke about anything, worried i might start flashing on somebody's screen. I have a friend on FB and he posts everything he can find on government control and conspiracy theory's, a couple of days after the Boston Marathon he got a phone call from someone who identified himself as an FBI agent, telling him to knock it off or they be taking a closer look at him. :shock:
and he isn't even one of the more radical people i'm friend's with.
Yep, that's Democracy in action!
Just a slight twisting of my point here.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
now ... here's someone who understands me!! ...
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Except that's not what I said. This is what I said:
'If you have nothing to contribute other than personal attacks on other members, then you have no business posting here.'
Not the same thing.
Really?
Again, you don't get to dictate who does or does not have a voice on this forum.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
He was being sarcastic, and paraphrasing Jimmy V. Jimmy V has a problem with people - me being one - criticizing 'America'. He apparently doesn't have a problem with 'valid critics' of America making 'valid criticisms', but if somebody - i.e, me - makes too many criticisms of America, then it shows they are filled with 'clear prejudice', and 'repulsive hatred' towards America and Americans.
I'm wondering where the threshold lies in his calculations: I.e, how many criticisms of American government policies (insert 'America' and 'Americans') can somebody make before they tip over the threshold into hate and prejudice. Maybe he can enlighten us all on this point?