Benghazi Sept.11 info heating up !

badbrains

RustyShackelford wrote:

badbrains wrote:

aerial wrote:

I am not a republican I am a citizen of The United States of America....
I serously would like to know .....
When Obama lies and covers up is incompetence why do some of you bring up Bush or anyone else?

Because your fucken crying about what, 3 people dying on Libyan soil when that fuckface LIED and 1,000,000 innocent Iraqis died and over thousands of American soldiers. That's why Ariel, do you fucken get it now???? Jesus, what's wrong with you? Stop drinking that koolaid they're serving you? Open up your BRAIN, both administrations lied, but your buddy went beyond that, he fucken destroyed a country and ravaged a nation! Wake the fuck up Ariel, stop being so naive..... :fp:

It was American citizens on American soil. Yes, AMERICAN SOIL.

To me, this situation is one of the biggest disgraces in American history.

So where does Iraq land on your list?

Smellyman

RustyShackelford wrote:

badbrains wrote:

aerial wrote:

I am not a republican I am a citizen of The United States of America....
I serously would like to know .....
When Obama lies and covers up is incompetence why do some of you bring up Bush or anyone else?

Because your fucken crying about what, 3 people dying on Libyan soil when that fuckface LIED and 1,000,000 innocent Iraqis died and over thousands of American soldiers. That's why Ariel, do you fucken get it now???? Jesus, what's wrong with you? Stop drinking that koolaid they're serving you? Open up your BRAIN, both administrations lied, but your buddy went beyond that, he fucken destroyed a country and ravaged a nation! Wake the fuck up Ariel, stop being so naive..... :fp:

It was American citizens on American soil. Yes, AMERICAN SOIL.

To me, this situation is one of the biggest disgraces in American history.

http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=207579&start=75#p5043866

RustyShackelford

badbrains wrote:

So where does Iraq land on your list?

Not even in the same conversation.

Cliffy6745

RustyShackelford wrote:

To me, this situation is one of the biggest disgraces in American history.

There has been a lot of dumb shit said on this board over the years, by me included, but this may, just in fact, take the cake.

Not slavery
Not the need for a civil war
Not the teapot dome scandal
Not the internment of Japanese Americans
Not Iran Contra
Not the Jim Crow laws and segregation
Not the unjustified wars

Just to name a few of the probably thousands

Nope, this....Gotcha

RustyShackelford

Cliffy6745 wrote:

RustyShackelford wrote:

To me, this situation is one of the biggest disgraces in American history.

There has been a lot of dumb shit said on this board over the years, by me included, but this may, just in fact, take the cake.

Not slavery
Not the need for a civil war
Not the teapot dome scandal
Not the internment of Japanese Americans
Not Iran Contra
Not the Jim Crow laws and segregation
Not the unjustified wars

Just to name a few of the probably thousands

Nope, this....Gotcha

I was waiting for this. The difference is that people actually cared about those things. The American people don't give a damn about this.

Shame on you Cliffy

Cliffy6745

RustyShackelford wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

RustyShackelford wrote:

To me, this situation is one of the biggest disgraces in American history.

There has been a lot of dumb shit said on this board over the years, by me included, but this may, just in fact, take the cake.

Not slavery
Not the need for a civil war
Not the teapot dome scandal
Not the internment of Japanese Americans
Not Iran Contra
Not the Jim Crow laws and segregation
Not the unjustified wars

Just to name a few of the probably thousands

Nope, this....Gotcha

I was waiting for this. The difference is that people actually cared about those things. The American people don't give a damn about this.

Shame on you Cliffy

Oh stop, people care and everyone agrees the story should be known but not to the politicization extreme like the right is it making. Let me ask you as well, were you this outraged over Pat Tillman?

RustyShackelford

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Oh stop, people care and everyone agrees the story should be known but not to the politicization extreme like the right is it making. Let me ask you as well, were you this outraged over Pat Tillman?

Actually I was and still am. These are not left or right issues, they are American issues. The party system as a whole disgusts me. There is no use for it in this day in age. It sets the whole country back.

mikepegg44

if consistency within a political party about what they get outraged about is what some of you are after, let me know when it happens, because it will be the first fucking time it has ever occurred.

Who cares where the general populace were when, doesn't make Pat Tillman more alive, doesn't bring back those dead at any of the embassies...doesn't bring back all the innocents that have been killed in the war on terror, doesn't bring back any of the innocents killed in Bosnia long ago, innocents killed in South/Central America even longer, doesn't repair the damaged caused by torture at GITMO (which is STILL open)...some of you need to ask yourselves, if the situation currently being puffed up or minimized was done under the other party's watch, where would YOU honestly be?

where were you then? the answer to that question really doesn't matter to the now...where are you now?...from my point of view in looking at the Benghazi shit, it seems to only depend on party affiliation and that is sad, because we should all be on the side that seeks truth, but also on the side that is willing to HEAR it when it is given...

/self-righteous rant...now back to my gimlet

RustyShackelford

mikepegg44 wrote:

if consistency within a political party about what they get outraged about is what some of you are after, let me know when it happens, because it will be the first fucking time it has ever occurred.

Who cares where the general populace were when, doesn't make Pat Tillman more alive, doesn't bring back those dead at any of the embassies...doesn't bring back all the innocents that have been killed in the war on terror, doesn't bring back any of the innocents killed in Bosnia long ago, innocents killed in South/Central America even longer, doesn't repair the damaged caused by torture at GITMO (which is STILL open)...some of you need to ask yourselves, if the situation currently being puffed up or minimized was done under the other party's watch, where would YOU honestly be?

where were you then? the answer to that question really doesn't matter to the now...where are you now?...from my point of view in looking at the Benghazi shit, it seems to only depend on party affiliation and that is sad, because we should all be on the side that seeks truth, but also on the side that is willing to HEAR it when it is given...

/self-righteous rant...now back to my gimlet

Exactly my point. Get rid of the D or R next to your name and make the public actually figure out what your values are before voting.

badbrains

RustyShackelford wrote:

badbrains wrote:

So where does Iraq land on your list?

Not even in the same conversation.

Wow, and there you have it. Not shame on cliffy, BUT shame on you rusty. And for your info, I dnt give a fuck about D or R, just Right and Wrong. And both fucken parties doing a lot of wrong.

Cliffy6745

mikepegg44 wrote:

if consistency within a political party about what they get outraged about is what some of you are after, let me know when it happens, because it will be the first fucking time it has ever occurred.

Who cares where the general populace were when, doesn't make Pat Tillman more alive, doesn't bring back those dead at any of the embassies...doesn't bring back all the innocents that have been killed in the war on terror, doesn't bring back any of the innocents killed in Bosnia long ago, innocents killed in South/Central America even longer, doesn't repair the damaged caused by torture at GITMO (which is STILL open)...some of you need to ask yourselves, if the situation currently being puffed up or minimized was done under the other party's watch, where would YOU honestly be?

where were you then? the answer to that question really doesn't matter to the now...where are you now?...from my point of view in looking at the Benghazi shit, it seems to only depend on party affiliation and that is sad, because we should all be on the side that seeks truth, but also on the side that is willing to HEAR it when it is given...

/self-righteous rant...now back to my gimlet

Fair enough. And as I said, I obviously want the truth, but I don't see it as a massive political kicked out of office scandal in any way, shape or form.

Cliffy6745

RustyShackelford wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

if consistency within a political party about what they get outraged about is what some of you are after, let me know when it happens, because it will be the first fucking time it has ever occurred.

Who cares where the general populace were when, doesn't make Pat Tillman more alive, doesn't bring back those dead at any of the embassies...doesn't bring back all the innocents that have been killed in the war on terror, doesn't bring back any of the innocents killed in Bosnia long ago, innocents killed in South/Central America even longer, doesn't repair the damaged caused by torture at GITMO (which is STILL open)...some of you need to ask yourselves, if the situation currently being puffed up or minimized was done under the other party's watch, where would YOU honestly be?

where were you then? the answer to that question really doesn't matter to the now...where are you now?...from my point of view in looking at the Benghazi shit, it seems to only depend on party affiliation and that is sad, because we should all be on the side that seeks truth, but also on the side that is willing to HEAR it when it is given...

/self-righteous rant...now back to my gimlet

Exactly my point. Get rid of the D or R next to your name and make the public actually figure out what your values are before voting.

That was clearly not your point at any point in this conversation. If it was, you didn't express it, AT ALL

RustyShackelford

Cliffy6745 wrote:

That was clearly not your point at any point in this conversation. If it was, you didn't express it, AT ALL

Hey Cliffy, do you have selective reading or are you just trying to piss me off?.......

RustyShackelford wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Oh stop, people care and everyone agrees the story should be known but not to the politicization extreme like the right is it making. Let me ask you as well, were you this outraged over Pat Tillman?

Actually I was and still am. These are not left or right issues, they are American issues. The party system as a whole disgusts me. There is no use for it in this day in age. It sets the whole country back.

RustyShackelford

Or let me break it down for you...maybe you need that...

By party system I mean the Democrats and the Republicans.

aerial

here is proof this has nothing to do with Right, Left....
A key Benghazi whistle-blower who has allegedly been punished for speaking out against the administration is a registered Democrat who voted for both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

The lawyer of Gregory Hicks, the former U.S. deputy chief of mission in Libya who testified before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Wednesday, confirmed the information to The Daily Caller on Saturday.

Hicks voted for Clinton during the 2008 primary, and for then-Illinois Sen. Obama in the 2008 general election. He again voted for Obama in 2012.

gimmesometruth27

RustyShackelford wrote:

To me, this situation is one of the biggest disgraces in American history.

yep, first black president, 4 white americans get killed and it is suddenly one of the biggest disgraces in american history.

to me sandy hook and the legislative failure following that was one of the biggest disgraces in american history.

the american imperialism of the last 100 years is the absolute biggest disgrace in american history.

yeah, 4 lives > than everything else that has happened that led up to and directly caused the events at benghazi...

i am speechless....

gimmesometruth27

BREAKING NEWS.....


"benghazi" has just secured the republican presidential nomination in 2016. no word yet on running mate selection, because benghazi is all they have.

RustyShackelford

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i am speechless....

Finally!

mikepegg44

Cliffy6745 wrote:

mikepegg44 wrote:

if consistency within a political party about what they get outraged about is what some of you are after, let me know when it happens, because it will be the first fucking time it has ever occurred.

Who cares where the general populace were when, doesn't make Pat Tillman more alive, doesn't bring back those dead at any of the embassies...doesn't bring back all the innocents that have been killed in the war on terror, doesn't bring back any of the innocents killed in Bosnia long ago, innocents killed in South/Central America even longer, doesn't repair the damaged caused by torture at GITMO (which is STILL open)...some of you need to ask yourselves, if the situation currently being puffed up or minimized was done under the other party's watch, where would YOU honestly be?

where were you then? the answer to that question really doesn't matter to the now...where are you now?...from my point of view in looking at the Benghazi shit, it seems to only depend on party affiliation and that is sad, because we should all be on the side that seeks truth, but also on the side that is willing to HEAR it when it is given...

/self-righteous rant...now back to my gimlet

Fair enough. And as I said, I obviously want the truth, but I don't see it as a massive political kicked out of office scandal in any way, shape or form.

Me either

I think some people looked to get out answers as quickly as possible and as the information changed so did the communication from the gov't. I am not sure how they pulled the video out as a reason, that seemed like a stretch, but when you are unwilling to recognize the real reason our interests get attacked in the middle east, videos that 20 people had seen at the time will have to do.

gimmesometruth27

RustyShackelford wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i am speechless....

Finally!