She paid for her groceries with food stamps.

chadwick

JC29856 wrote:

by getting worked up over food stamps you're sucking big fat corporate dick...open wide! any more distracted and the gov't dick will go in your azz, without you even knowing it. distracted even more and you will start liking it. take the corporate dong out of your mouth and look at the bigger picture.
peace

fantastic & loveable

chadwick

peacefrompaul wrote:

It has always upset me when I see people coming in and buying 40-50 dollars of candy on food stamps

Then a few packs of cigarettes

And some beer

We need to have a nutritional basis applied to the food stamps.

then that is the store's fault. not one swingin john could ever buy beers & smokes with a food card. unless the store is a corrupt store saying they sold bread instead of beer.

chadwick

polaris_x wrote:

this is the thing with the social infrastructure in the states ... it's designed to be inefficient and exploited ... take medicaid for example ... if you want health insurance - you're better off hiding all your assets with family members or somewhere else ... everything else is the same way - you're better off being destitute than working 3 jobs to get less ...

without passing judgement on this particular case - it is obvious there are people who are going to exploit these programs ... just like corporate welfare ... all i'm saying is that when you combine the cultural fabric of society and the infrastructure of these programs, it almost begs you to exploit it ...

you want to live in a place where buying shit is the singular most important duty of the citizen and that greed and excess trump everything else? - well, reap what you sow ...

you can work 50 years & become old & have a house paid off, money in the bank & when you become old & run down & maybe ill you will lose all your money unless you transfer/hide money & assets in another's name five full years before you need old ppl care

lawyers typically will tell you to hide your life savings before the state or nursing home or someone claims it as theirs to pay your shit off.

broke ass old ppl get the same exact care as a loaded old ass person dying slowly in some nursing home.

peacefrompaul

chadwick wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

It has always upset me when I see people coming in and buying 40-50 dollars of candy on food stamps

Then a few packs of cigarettes

And some beer

We need to have a nutritional basis applied to the food stamps.

then that is the store's fault. not one swingin john could ever buy beers & smokes with a food card. unless the store is a corrupt store saying they sold bread instead of beer.

Perhaps I wasn't clear

They buy a shitload of garbage on the food stamp card and then whatever cash money they have goes towards beer and cigarettes.

It's just disappointing.

chadwick

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Not everyone takes advantage of the services, like you say hedonist, but boy do some like to think they do. Whatever. I may be getting help right now (not food stamps) but because I'm disabled and actually want to work again, there are programs set up to help people like me to get back into the workforce. Very noble. But let's just keep complaining about the free-loaders because it's easy, hateful and fun to do, shall we?

Correct. Not everyone takes advantage.
But that lady I met yesterday?

No doubt SHE is taking advantage.
She surely doesnt hate the system.
She fucking LOVES IT!

speedy, sir, how can you prove she is taking advantage of the food stamp system?

she drives a nice car...X
she wears jewelry...X
she purchased roasts, steaks, & crab legs...X

none of those things means she is scamming the lovely state of Illinois. how many god damn meals do I get out of a roast? a fucking lot that's how many.

chadwick

josevolution wrote:

I don't care it's none of my bussiness how she spends her food stamps , i hope none of you ever have to be on food stamps ...

Man you people are some lynching mob and i don't mean everybody ....

agreed

some ppl here actually believe this lady will be eating like a king day after day, week after week, month after month. haha, you talkin shit fuckers know jack shit about being a poor ass bastard.

she could also be getting food from a church basement, from the salvation army, from a soup kitchen, from a number of food donation places. if you aint been poor shut your mouth because you don't know a fucking thing about much of anything, truly

hedonist

chadwick wrote:

some ppl here actually believe this lady will be eating like a king day after day, week after week, month after month. haha, you talkin shit fuckers know jack shit about being a poor ass bastard.

she could also be getting food from a church basement, from the salvation army, from a soup kitchen, from a number of food donation places. if you aint been poor shut your mouth because you don't know a fucking thing about much of anything, truly

My family went through some hard times. I know people who've gone through even harder times. I know others who haven't but still get it, understand, empathize, etc....

Whether or not one's experienced it firsthand, everyone still has the right to speak about it. Agree, disagree, maybe educate the ones being told to shut up?

I tell ya, this place is strange this morning.

Time to go have a smoke in a tree...!

mickeyrat

hedonist wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

hedonist wrote:

But, one doesn't have to give in to the begging. Why not just do what's right? Take what you need; I'm more than willing to give to anyone needing a hand-up. Just don't take advantage. Those that do fuck it up for those legitimately in need.

sorry but c'mon ... don't take this personally but america is a me-first nation ... take as much as you can ... however you can ...

and i would disagree with the notion that this isn't purposeful ... you have to remember that on the flip side to the person on food stamps is a retailer, a manufacturer, a supplier who is getting paid ... your gov't is in massive defecit because it chooses to spend tax dollars on feeding corporations ... whether they be defense contractors, prisons or the purveyors of cocoa puffs ... people are getting paid ...

there is not interest in "cleaning this up" ... it's a system that is designed this way for a reason ... all this talk is purposeful only in so much as dividing the population base and distracting the people from the true problems ...

I don't take it personally because some don't take the "me-first" mentality at the expense of others. Strange concept, I know

My point was that just because something (or even someone) is begging to be taken advantage of, not everyone is chomping at the bit to do so. And I'm not willing to give a pass to those that do take the bait because it's what we do...because it's expected.

Really?

Amazing that contemplating saying "maybe I'm naive" is even a consideration of mine in this conversation.

I wouldnt say naive. Idealistic yes, but naive no.

I too like to think better of people. Sadly all too often I get proven wrong. But I shall continue to think the best, its one of the few things I like about myself.

hedonist

mickeyrat wrote:

I wouldnt say naive. Idealistic yes, but naive no.

I too like to think better of people. Sadly all too often I get proven wrong. But I shall continue to think the best, its one of the few things I like about myself.

Right on. And I'd guess that you, like me, temper that idealism with realism and practicality.

chadwick

love is the only answer we'll ever have. this is the route im takin here on out. although I will slap someone stupid for fucking with me. I have a car and I will run you over. love your neighbor & all

(including flies & mosquitoes, snakes & dog shit in your yard from the drunk old neighbor)
love them

destroy as soon as possible someone at the food stamp ranch

badbrains

hedonist wrote:

chadwick wrote:

some ppl here actually believe this lady will be eating like a king day after day, week after week, month after month. haha, you talkin shit fuckers know jack shit about being a poor ass bastard.

she could also be getting food from a church basement, from the salvation army, from a soup kitchen, from a number of food donation places. if you aint been poor shut your mouth because you don't know a fucking thing about much of anything, truly

My family went through some hard times. I know people who've gone through even harder times. I know others who haven't but still get it, understand, empathize, etc....

Whether or not one's experienced it firsthand, everyone still has the right to speak about it. Agree, disagree, maybe educate the ones being told to shut up?

I tell ya, this place is strange this morning.

Time to go have a smoke in a tree...!

Smoke in a tree you say? I'm down, when and where???

oceaninmyeyes

Ever read Angela's Ashes? The father was an alcoholic and would often drink all the dole money and to feed her kids Angela often turned to the Catholic charities. With her grocery dockets, this was her choice for Christmas dinner. Of course it wasn't nicely wrapped in plastic. Frank, the author of the book, then a small boy ,carried the pig's head home wrapped in paper, which was soaked and torn by the time he returned to the neighborhood, leaving him to the ridicule of the neighbor kids. Maybe you would prefer this system? The father in the story certainly seemed to enjoy popping and crunching the pig's eyes. I am sure it would take some getting used to.

Those who have never lived through difficult times, perhaps should read more books. Maybe Barbara Ehrenreich's Nickel and Dimed, documenting her attempt to leave her high paying job and live for a year on minimum wage. Of course she had no kids to provide for.

People are quick to ridicule and despise when they don't know the life story of those they feel contempt for. It is easier to be angry than to understand someone if you haven't walked in their shoes.

Illridethewave20

I see two sides to this, I mean we do not know who the food was for or what there circumstances are. However, I have had people with ebt cards in front of me checking out and ya, they usually do eat better than me. My cart is full of the store generic food, day old bread and the reduced produce section, because it's all I can afford.

catefrances

Illridethewave20 wrote:

I see two sides to this, I mean we do not know who the food was for or what there circumstances are. However, I have had people with ebt cards in front of me checking out and ya, they usually do eat better than me. My cart is full of the store generic food, day old bread and the reduced produce section, because it's all I can afford.

a lot of generic food is made by the big companies so youre not missing out on whatever it is people go for in buying brand name goods. and theres usually nothing wrong with reduced produce. i personally do not trust an apple if its blemish free.

chadwick

Illridethewave20 wrote:

I see two sides to this, I mean we do not know who the food was for or what there circumstances are. However, I have had people with ebt cards in front of me checking out and ya, they usually do eat better than me. My cart is full of the store generic food, day old bread and the reduced produce section, because it's all I can afford.

good deals kicks ass. i'll eat older bananas by the paper sack full & only spend thirteen damn cents.

maybe 2 bucks

aerial

Why assume no one has been out on there luck and piss poor? Yet get angry when you say we assume this lady is wasting tax payers money and we have proof because someone saw her doing it.......

josevolution

aerial wrote:

Why assume no one has been out on there luck and piss poor? Yet get angry when you say we assume this lady is wasting tax payers money and we have proof because someone saw her doing it.......

That's proof that Speedy saw this woman shopping woa that's proof to you :fp: :fp:

Jeanwah

aerial wrote:

Why assume no one has been out on there luck and piss poor? Yet get angry when you say we assume this lady is wasting tax payers money and we have proof because someone saw her doing it.......

Because if you've been there, you're less likely to judge others and assume blindly.

rollings

aerial wrote:

Why assume no one has been out on there luck and piss poor? Yet get angry when you say we assume this lady is wasting tax payers money and we have proof because someone saw her doing it.......

so, if her cart was full of Cheerios, nutri-grain bars, ritz crackers, bagels & store-brand cream cheese, then this would NOT be a waste of taxpayers money,

but because she chose roasts and seafood INSTEAD, ...this IS a waste of taxpayers money

is that what you're saying?

or are you saying that she should have pawned her jewelry and sold her car first?

meaning a person should have no valuables or possessions before they can ask for assistance?

SPEEDY MCCREADY

rollings wrote:

aerial wrote:

Why assume no one has been out on there luck and piss poor? Yet get angry when you say we assume this lady is wasting tax payers money and we have proof because someone saw her doing it.......

so, if her cart was full of Cheerios, nutri-grain bars, ritz crackers, bagels & store-brand cream cheese, then this would NOT be a waste of taxpayers money,

but because she chose roasts and seafood INSTEAD, ...this IS a waste of taxpayers money

is that what you're saying?

or are you saying that she should have pawned her jewelry and sold her car first?

meaning a person should have no valuables or possessions before they can ask for assistance?

She was abusing the system.

It happens.
There are scam artists in this world.
People commit fraud.