She paid for her groceries with food stamps.

hedonist

polaris_x wrote:

hedonist wrote:

But, one doesn't have to give in to the begging. Why not just do what's right? Take what you need; I'm more than willing to give to anyone needing a hand-up. Just don't take advantage. Those that do fuck it up for those legitimately in need.

sorry but c'mon ... don't take this personally but america is a me-first nation ... take as much as you can ... however you can ...

and i would disagree with the notion that this isn't purposeful ... you have to remember that on the flip side to the person on food stamps is a retailer, a manufacturer, a supplier who is getting paid ... your gov't is in massive defecit because it chooses to spend tax dollars on feeding corporations ... whether they be defense contractors, prisons or the purveyors of cocoa puffs ... people are getting paid ...

there is not interest in "cleaning this up" ... it's a system that is designed this way for a reason ... all this talk is purposeful only in so much as dividing the population base and distracting the people from the true problems ...

I don't take it personally because some don't take the "me-first" mentality at the expense of others. Strange concept, I know

My point was that just because something (or even someone) is begging to be taken advantage of, not everyone is chomping at the bit to do so. And I'm not willing to give a pass to those that do take the bait because it's what we do...because it's expected.

Really?

Amazing that contemplating saying "maybe I'm naive" is even a consideration of mine in this conversation.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

polaris_x wrote:

hedonist wrote:

But, one doesn't have to give in to the begging. Why not just do what's right? Take what you need; I'm more than willing to give to anyone needing a hand-up. Just don't take advantage. Those that do fuck it up for those legitimately in need.

sorry but c'mon ... don't take this personally but america is a me-first nation ... take as much as you can ... however you can ...

and i would disagree with the notion that this isn't purposeful ... you have to remember that on the flip side to the person on food stamps is a retailer, a manufacturer, a supplier who is getting paid ... your gov't is in massive defecit because it chooses to spend tax dollars on feeding corporations ... whether they be defense contractors, prisons or the purveyors of cocoa puffs ... people are getting paid ...

there is not interest in "cleaning this up" ... it's a system that is designed this way for a reason ... all this talk is purposeful only in so much as dividing the population base and distracting the people from the true problems ...

that's not just an american problem. we have the same issues here in canada. I was just having a discussion at a friend's place over the weekend, where things got fairly racist against aboriginals and their "laziness". they were saying that they sit on their asses all day drinking and smoking and getting fatter and using our health care because they eat shit instead of vegetables, yadda yadda yadda. My response to that was not that it's the fault of the aboriginals; you give anything to any group of people, any economic class of people, and they'll use it up and ask for more. it goes from being a gift to being a right. that's just human nature, not of any nation or any race or any class.

it's a flawed system of government that throws money at problems instead of getting to the root of it and trying to help people help themselves. and it's almost irreversable. if not totally.

catefrances

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

OnTheEdge wrote:

Should have invited yourself over for dinner....seeing how you helped buy it anyway

It makes me fucking crazy.
People can whine, bitch and moan about the evil corporations of America.

But the freeloading pieces of garbage, who abuse the system for free groceries, piss me off more than the Evil Big Business.

They whine bitch and moan about our government.
But they have NO PROBLEM collecting that government check.

yeah cause its the people on food stamps that have brought your country to its knees.. those freeloading pieces of garbage. :roll:

Jeanwah

Anyone here from a European country? Since many of their countries are set up to provide social services much more than the capitalist US, I'd like to hear how those who aren't getting by easily are treated in a more socialist country. Because we know that they are getting care, much better than here.

I find it sickening that people can be so wrapped up in what other people have and have not that they can barely function here in rich US. If you can't help those who are less fortunate then do them a favor: stop eyeing them like their stealing something from you. It's that sign of insecurity that's rampant here.

Jeanwah

hedonist wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

hedonist wrote:

But, one doesn't have to give in to the begging. Why not just do what's right? Take what you need; I'm more than willing to give to anyone needing a hand-up. Just don't take advantage. Those that do fuck it up for those legitimately in need.

sorry but c'mon ... don't take this personally but america is a me-first nation ... take as much as you can ... however you can ...

and i would disagree with the notion that this isn't purposeful ... you have to remember that on the flip side to the person on food stamps is a retailer, a manufacturer, a supplier who is getting paid ... your gov't is in massive defecit because it chooses to spend tax dollars on feeding corporations ... whether they be defense contractors, prisons or the purveyors of cocoa puffs ... people are getting paid ...

there is not interest in "cleaning this up" ... it's a system that is designed this way for a reason ... all this talk is purposeful only in so much as dividing the population base and distracting the people from the true problems ...

I don't take it personally because some don't take the "me-first" mentality at the expense of others. Strange concept, I know

My point was that just because something (or even someone) is begging to be taken advantage of, not everyone is chomping at the bit to do so. And I'm not willing to give a pass to those that do take the bait because it's what we do...because it's expected.

Really?

Amazing that contemplating saying "maybe I'm naive" is even a consideration of mine in this conversation.

Not everyone takes advantage of the services, like you say hedonist, but boy do some like to think they do. Whatever. I may be getting help right now (not food stamps) but because I'm disabled and actually want to work again, there are programs set up to help people like me to get back into the workforce. Very noble. But let's just keep complaining about those getting services because it's easy, hateful and fun to do and besides, we can group them all into the Free-loader category, because it sure seems like they all are. *edited*

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Jeanwah wrote:

Not everyone takes advantage of the services, like you say hedonist, but boy do some like to think they do. Whatever. I may be getting help right now (not food stamps) but because I'm disabled and actually want to work again, there are programs set up to help people like me to get back into the workforce. Very noble. But let's just keep complaining about the free-loaders because it's easy, hateful and fun to do, shall we?

Correct. Not everyone takes advantage.
But that lady I met yesterday?

No doubt SHE is taking advantage.
She surely doesnt hate the system.
She fucking LOVES IT!

catefrances

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Not everyone takes advantage of the services, like you say hedonist, but boy do some like to think they do. Whatever. I may be getting help right now (not food stamps) but because I'm disabled and actually want to work again, there are programs set up to help people like me to get back into the workforce. Very noble. But let's just keep complaining about the free-loaders because it's easy, hateful and fun to do, shall we?

Correct. Not everyone takes advantage.
But that lady I met yesterday?

No doubt SHE is taking advantage.
She surely doesnt hate the system.
She fucking LOVES IT!

you sure she wasnt buying the generic crab claws and steak??? cause you know theyre usually the cheaper option.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

catefrances wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Not everyone takes advantage of the services, like you say hedonist, but boy do some like to think they do. Whatever. I may be getting help right now (not food stamps) but because I'm disabled and actually want to work again, there are programs set up to help people like me to get back into the workforce. Very noble. But let's just keep complaining about the free-loaders because it's easy, hateful and fun to do, shall we?

Correct. Not everyone takes advantage.
But that lady I met yesterday?

No doubt SHE is taking advantage.
She surely doesnt hate the system.
She fucking LOVES IT!

you sure she wasnt buying the generic crab claws and steak??? cause you know theyre usually the cheaper option.

Why arent you singing in the Margaret Thatcher is dead thread?

Some of you people just crack me the fuck up.

catefrances

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

catefrances wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Correct. Not everyone takes advantage.
But that lady I met yesterday?

No doubt SHE is taking advantage.
She surely doesnt hate the system.
She fucking LOVES IT!

you sure she wasnt buying the generic crab claws and steak??? cause you know theyre usually the cheaper option.

Why arent you singing in the Margaret Thatcher is dead thread?

Some of you people just crack me the fuck up.

we crack you up?? youre the one bitching about some woman buying food like its the end of civilisation.. so right about now if anyones cracking people up, its you speedy.

oh and ive already said what i felt in the thatcher thread. thanx for being concerned that i might be missing out tho. but you do know she wasnt my prime minister and that im not english/british, right?

polaris_x

hedonist wrote:

I don't take it personally because some don't take the "me-first" mentality at the expense of others. Strange concept, I know

My point was that just because something (or even someone) is begging to be taken advantage of, not everyone is chomping at the bit to do so. And I'm not willing to give a pass to those that do take the bait because it's what we do...because it's expected.

Really?

Amazing that contemplating saying "maybe I'm naive" is even a consideration of mine in this conversation.

all i'm really saying is that the focus should not really be about the individuals that exploit the system rather it should be about a system that is designed to be exploited ... and that said exploitation is purposeful ...

SPEEDY MCCREADY

catefrances wrote:

the one bitching about some woman buying food like its the end of civilisation.. so right about now if anyones cracking people up, its you speedy.

oh and ive already said what i felt in the thatcher thread. thanx for being concerned that i might be missing out tho. but you do know she wasnt my prime minister and that im not english/british, right?

The end of civilization?

Like I said.
You crack me the fuck up.

Carry on.

hedonist

Jeanwah wrote:

hedonist wrote:

I don't take it personally because some don't take the "me-first" mentality at the expense of others. Strange concept, I know

My point was that just because something (or even someone) is begging to be taken advantage of, not everyone is chomping at the bit to do so. And I'm not willing to give a pass to those that do take the bait because it's what we do...because it's expected.

Really?

Amazing that contemplating saying "maybe I'm naive" is even a consideration of mine in this conversation.

Not everyone takes advantage of the services, like you say hedonist, but boy do some like to think they do. Whatever. I may be getting help right now (not food stamps) but because I'm disabled and actually want to work again, there are programs set up to help people like me to get back into the workforce. Very noble. But let's just keep complaining about those getting services because it's easy, hateful and fun to do and besides, we can group them all into the Free-loader category, because it sure seems like they all are. *edited*

That's what I was saying though...that not everyone does, but when they do, it's "c'mon, it's designed for that". I have no tolerance for anyone milking any system, just as I want those who legitimately need help to get it.

My saying/thinking that is not akin to lumping anyone into a group. I hope I've been misread/misinterpreted, because there was no hate coming from here.

polaris_x

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

that's not just an american problem. we have the same issues here in canada. I was just having a discussion at a friend's place over the weekend, where things got fairly racist against aboriginals and their "laziness". they were saying that they sit on their asses all day drinking and smoking and getting fatter and using our health care because they eat shit instead of vegetables, yadda yadda yadda. My response to that was not that it's the fault of the aboriginals; you give anything to any group of people, any economic class of people, and they'll use it up and ask for more. it goes from being a gift to being a right. that's just human nature, not of any nation or any race or any class.

it's a flawed system of government that throws money at problems instead of getting to the root of it and trying to help people help themselves. and it's almost irreversable. if not totally.

i would disagree ... although we have people exploiting programs ... i don't believe our system is set up for the purpose of exploitation ... big difference ... we actually want to balance our books in this country and although we do subsidize the big industries (mainly oil and gas) ... we don't run a system of gov't that's primary purpose is to redistribute funds into corporations ...

Jeanwah

hedonist wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

hedonist wrote:

I don't take it personally because some don't take the "me-first" mentality at the expense of others. Strange concept, I know

My point was that just because something (or even someone) is begging to be taken advantage of, not everyone is chomping at the bit to do so. And I'm not willing to give a pass to those that do take the bait because it's what we do...because it's expected.

Really?

Amazing that contemplating saying "maybe I'm naive" is even a consideration of mine in this conversation.

Not everyone takes advantage of the services, like you say hedonist, but boy do some like to think they do. Whatever. I may be getting help right now (not food stamps) but because I'm disabled and actually want to work again, there are programs set up to help people like me to get back into the workforce. Very noble. But let's just keep complaining about those getting services because it's easy, hateful and fun to do and besides, we can group them all into the Free-loader category, because it sure seems like they all are. *edited*

That's what I was saying though...that not everyone does, but when they do, it's "c'mon, it's designed for that". I have no tolerance for anyone milking any system, just as I want those who legitimately need help to get it.

My saying/thinking that is not akin to lumping anyone into a group. I hope I've been misread/misinterpreted, because there was no hate coming from here.

Yeah, I didn't mean that you were lumping / grouping, I cited that as a reflection of other posts on here.

josevolution

I don't care it's none of my bussiness how she spends her food stamps , i hope none of you ever have to be on food stamps ...

Man you people are some lynching mob and i don't mean everybody ....

josevolution

donnaruhl wrote:

I'll have to remind myself to dress in my dungarees,and take my fat wedding ring off when I shop for my daughter and her Autistic Son with wic coupons and ebt card,so as to not piss anyone in the public eye off!

I hear you and stay away from Chcago Speedy might see you and give you one of these :nono: :nono:

chadwick

aerial wrote:

The abusers are just as bad as the system.....I have witnessed food stamp abuse almost daily. A cashier at my store told me (she has been working there for about 4 years) that she has only had three people pay for live lobster with legal tender all others are paying with food stamps. Our manager making 80,000 a year was using food stamps till a cashier brought it to the attention of the higher ups.....the cashier was accused of racism (cashier is white) and then quit and the manager does not use food stamps any more.

Now if this women just got laid off I would think it is time to sell the car to get food to eat....sell her jewelry....take responsibility for her own welfare.......if she is shopping for her mom she should do the same thing and help her mom....
This lady shows no common sense.....how dare her use my money to buy luxury's when I work my ass off paying my own bills....but still have people tell me I can't purchase a super size soda......the hypocrisy on here is out of control.......people on here feel I do not have the right to spend my money on a Big Mac and fries because it will cost them if I get sick.....
How have we become a country that looks down on the people that work hard and will do without so that they do not have to take others money.....yet find all types of excuse for the lazy free loaders?

beep. beep. beep. edit. beep.

chadwick

donnaruhl wrote:

I'll have to remind myself to dress in my dungarees,and take my fat wedding ring off when I shop for my daughter and her Autistic Son with wic coupons and ebt card,so as to not piss anyone in the public eye off!

right.

and pull up in your shitty ass car. get rid of a decent car & drive a $200 model ford granada or 1980 escort

chadwick

donnaruhl wrote:

Here's a scenario for ya.
She bought the food stamps from a junkie for 25cent's on the dollar.
Quick Buck Betty.

I understand your frustration.Your discussion is about people
who take advantage of the system.
We should be discussing how the system as a whole, takes
advantage of (We The People!)

awesome

chadwick

the wolf wrote:

chadwick wrote:

donnaruhl wrote:

It must have been for a special occasion.One she probably couldn't afford otherwise.
Maybe she couldn't afford a gift,so a dinner is what she could supply. I'm sure it set her back
a dinner or two.Don't think for one minute that it's a walk in the park to hold your head up
while slipping through the crack's of society. And when you're on assistance,That's exactly where you stay.
Because the government only give's you enough to keep you from falling Between. Those who speak poorly
of,Or stand in judgment of,Are those who have never been. Oh! and don't forget to give to the true homeless person on the corner Because You my friend could one day, Be one paycheck away from sharing that same corner with your own little sign. Where has compassion gone?

i was homeless a few times and bounced between couches. slept in my car, slept in a baseball field's dugout & had no idea what was going on other than I am in deep shit but it's ok because I like deep shit & I cannot die so fuck you my sorry ass life. i'll sleep somewhere & eat vitamins. what time is it?

Doing that now. I've been sleeping in my car 4 to 5 times a week since February.

fuck, dude... if you can make it to iowa i'll give you my living room to use as your bedroom & you could probably land a job somewhere around here