some ppl here actually believe this lady will be eating like a king day after day, week after week, month after month. haha, you talkin shit fuckers know jack shit about being a poor ass bastard.
she could also be getting food from a church basement, from the salvation army, from a soup kitchen, from a number of food donation places. if you aint been poor shut your mouth because you don't know a fucking thing about much of anything, truly
My family went through some hard times. I know people who've gone through even harder times. I know others who haven't but still get it, understand, empathize, etc....
Whether or not one's experienced it firsthand, everyone still has the right to speak about it. Agree, disagree, maybe educate the ones being told to shut up?
I tell ya, this place is strange this morning.
Time to go have a smoke in a tree...!
Smoke in a tree you say? I'm down, when and where???
Ever read Angela's Ashes? The father was an alcoholic and would often drink all the dole money and to feed her kids Angela often turned to the Catholic charities. With her grocery dockets, this was her choice for Christmas dinner. Of course it wasn't nicely wrapped in plastic. Frank, the author of the book, then a small boy ,carried the pig's head home wrapped in paper, which was soaked and torn by the time he returned to the neighborhood, leaving him to the ridicule of the neighbor kids. Maybe you would prefer this system? The father in the story certainly seemed to enjoy popping and crunching the pig's eyes. I am sure it would take some getting used to.
Those who have never lived through difficult times, perhaps should read more books. Maybe Barbara Ehrenreich's Nickel and Dimed, documenting her attempt to leave her high paying job and live for a year on minimum wage. Of course she had no kids to provide for.
People are quick to ridicule and despise when they don't know the life story of those they feel contempt for. It is easier to be angry than to understand someone if you haven't walked in their shoes.
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I see two sides to this, I mean we do not know who the food was for or what there circumstances are. However, I have had people with ebt cards in front of me checking out and ya, they usually do eat better than me. My cart is full of the store generic food, day old bread and the reduced produce section, because it's all I can afford.
I see two sides to this, I mean we do not know who the food was for or what there circumstances are. However, I have had people with ebt cards in front of me checking out and ya, they usually do eat better than me. My cart is full of the store generic food, day old bread and the reduced produce section, because it's all I can afford.
a lot of generic food is made by the big companies so youre not missing out on whatever it is people go for in buying brand name goods. and theres usually nothing wrong with reduced produce. i personally do not trust an apple if its blemish free.
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I see two sides to this, I mean we do not know who the food was for or what there circumstances are. However, I have had people with ebt cards in front of me checking out and ya, they usually do eat better than me. My cart is full of the store generic food, day old bread and the reduced produce section, because it's all I can afford.
good deals kicks ass. i'll eat older bananas by the paper sack full & only spend thirteen damn cents.
Why assume no one has been out on there luck and piss poor? Yet get angry when you say we assume this lady is wasting tax payers money and we have proof because someone saw her doing it.......
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Why assume no one has been out on there luck and piss poor? Yet get angry when you say we assume this lady is wasting tax payers money and we have proof because someone saw her doing it.......
That's proof that Speedy saw this woman shopping woa that's proof to you :fp: :fp:
Why assume no one has been out on there luck and piss poor? Yet get angry when you say we assume this lady is wasting tax payers money and we have proof because someone saw her doing it.......
Because if you've been there, you're less likely to judge others and assume blindly.
Why assume no one has been out on there luck and piss poor? Yet get angry when you say we assume this lady is wasting tax payers money and we have proof because someone saw her doing it.......
so, if her cart was full of Cheerios, nutri-grain bars, ritz crackers, bagels & store-brand cream cheese, then this would NOT be a waste of taxpayers money,
but because she chose roasts and seafood INSTEAD, ...this IS a waste of taxpayers money
is that what you're saying?
or are you saying that she should have pawned her jewelry and sold her car first?
meaning a person should have no valuables or possessions before they can ask for assistance?
Why assume no one has been out on there luck and piss poor? Yet get angry when you say we assume this lady is wasting tax payers money and we have proof because someone saw her doing it.......
so, if her cart was full of Cheerios, nutri-grain bars, ritz crackers, bagels & store-brand cream cheese, then this would NOT be a waste of taxpayers money,
but because she chose roasts and seafood INSTEAD, ...this IS a waste of taxpayers money
is that what you're saying?
or are you saying that she should have pawned her jewelry and sold her car first?
meaning a person should have no valuables or possessions before they can ask for assistance?
She was abusing the system.
It happens.
There are scam artists in this world.
People commit fraud.
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
so, if her cart was full of Cheerios, nutri-grain bars, ritz crackers, bagels & store-brand cream cheese, then this would NOT be a waste of taxpayers money,
but because she chose roasts and seafood INSTEAD, ...this IS a waste of taxpayers money
is that what you're saying?
or are you saying that she should have pawned her jewelry and sold her car first?
meaning a person should have no valuables or possessions before they can ask for assistance?
She was abusing the system.
It happens.
There are scam artists in this world.
People commit fraud.
I can't say if this particular person WAS abusing the help, but when the honor system is in place - yeah, some have none and will suck the well dry.
Then again, some want to do all they can to never have to suck on someone else's teat again.
I'd have no problem selling jewelry and other possessions before turning to another for help. Hell, I HAVE sold that shit, among other shit, in order to pay bills and whatnot. Even more valuable/sentimental for me was selling off much of my Beatles vinyl years back. Sucked, but it was that or get the electric bill paid. The tangibles are just that. Not having those things has had no impact on my life, except for the memories.
I can't say if this particular person WAS abusing the help, but when the honor system is in place - yeah, some have none and will suck the well dry.
Then again, some want to do all they can to never have to suck on someone else's teat again.
I'd have no problem selling jewelry and other possessions before turning to another for help. Hell, I HAVE sold that shit, among other shit, in order to pay bills and whatnot. Even more valuable/sentimental for me was selling off much of my Beatles vinyl years back. Sucked, but it was that or get the electric bill paid. The tangibles are just that. Not having those things has had no impact on my life, except for the memories.
We do what we have to do.
(and lobster is way overrated)
Welfare fraud
Food stamp fraud
It exists.
Plain and simple.
We can all google food stamp fraud, and read endless stories of people commiting these types of crimes.
When someone pulls up to the grocery store, in a $30,000 car, with her Ipod, iPhone, and a few thousand dollars worth of jewelry, and then proceeds to pay for her groceries with food stamps?
Im sorry, but there is something wrong with the system.
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
This woman has a parent who is in need of medical care. Because costs of health care are absurd - they have made it so that this person qualifies for medicaid which means the aforementioned transferring of assets ... the result is that this person will also qualify for food stamps. The person who is on medicaid and food stamps likely does not need to be if not for her medical care requirements (perhaps she has some long term disability). So, the daughter is simply using up the food stamps as she is entitled to.
Is it abusing the system? Matter of perspective I suppose - can definitely see both sides of this.
This woman has a parent who is in need of medical care. Because costs of health care are absurd - they have made it so that this person qualifies for medicaid which means the aforementioned transferring of assets ... the result is that this person will also qualify for food stamps. The person who is on medicaid and food stamps likely does not need to be if not for her medical care requirements (perhaps she has some long term disability). So, the daughter is simply using up the food stamps as she is entitled to.
Is it abusing the system? Matter of perspective I suppose - can definitely see both sides of this.
So she is 'inheriting" her food stamps?
So for this family, food stamps have become a "way of life"?
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
So she is 'inheriting" her food stamps?
So for this family, food stamps have become a "way of life"?
assuming the family functions as a unit - she is probably the primary caregiver for this person meaning she has to shop for her, feed her, bathe her, etc...
caregiving is undervalued ... people often have to disrupt their careers, make huge sacrifices because the infrastructure is not there for people with LTD ... so, if the choice is to put a parent on medicaid in order to not suffer huge financial burdens ... it's not unreasonable to think someone who choose to go on it ... food stamps is part of it ... I suppose she could not use them but I don't see why she shouldn't either ... at the end of the day, if you get food stamps - it qualifies you to get a certain amount ... you don't get more or less ... it's kind of strange to think that if she had spent it on crappy processed food that essentially will end up making her a further burden on the system - people would be ok with it ...
So she is 'inheriting" her food stamps?
So for this family, food stamps have become a "way of life"?
assuming the family functions as a unit - she is probably the primary caregiver for this person meaning she has to shop for her, feed her, bathe her, etc...
caregiving is undervalued ... people often have to disrupt their careers, make huge sacrifices because the infrastructure is not there for people with LTD ... so, if the choice is to put a parent on medicaid in order to not suffer huge financial burdens ... it's not unreasonable to think someone who choose to go on it ... food stamps is part of it ... I suppose she could not use them but I don't see why she shouldn't either ... at the end of the day, if you get food stamps - it qualifies you to get a certain amount ... you don't get more or less ... it's kind of strange to think that if she had spent it on crappy processed food that essentially will end up making her a further burden on the system - people would be ok with it ...
By definition, isnt the "Food Stamp Program" for lower income households? People struggling to make ends meet? Right?
Dont you find it a bit absurd that one could have so many "Luxury items" such as an ipod, an iphone, jewelry, and a $30,000 car, and yet pay for her groceries with food stamps? And even more absurd, the lower income person is using her food stamps to buy more "Luxury items", such as crab legs and ribeyes?
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
By definition, isnt the "Food Stamp Program" for lower income households? People struggling to make ends meet? Right?
Dont you find it a bit absurd that one could have so many "Luxury items" such as an ipod, an iphone, jewelry, and a $30,000 car, and yet pay for her groceries with food stamps? And even more absurd, the lower income person is using her food stamps to buy more "Luxury items", such as crab legs and ribeyes?
listen - i understand your frustration ... i am simply trying to provide some perspective ...
just assume my scenario is true ... say it is a daughter who has to care for her mom who might have had a brain injury in an accident or something who can't work and needs constant supervision ... the caregiving costs are simply not affordable for a daughter and a person who can't work and thus not eligible for any health care ... so, she does what she has to do and gets her mom on medicaid ... so, as part of that - she gets food stamps ... this daughter may have what you consider "luxury items" but she also is likely the primary caregiver for this person ... something the state doesn't compensate her for ... so, she shops and cooks for her and her mom ...
do i begrudge this person for buying ribeyes and crab legs!? ... not really ... life isn't always so black and white and it serves me no purpose to try and judge what they've been through as a family ... maybe, you are right and she is scamming the system ... or maybe she is not ... i dunno ... my scenario is not unreasonable because i know people in that situation ...
if this daughter maybe used the food stamps for staples and then used her own money for the ribeyes ... no one would say anything but for her it's all the same thing ...
It's true we don't know her story but we sure know the fraud taking place.
Every big city in our country must have news stations investigating
and relaying to citizens who are listening who can then contact their representatives
or foodstamp fraud department. I know many getting food stamps who don't need them
but I'm not ready to turn them in. Shame on me I guess.
if this daughter maybe used the food stamps for staples and then used her own money for the ribeyes ... no one would say anything but for her it's all the same thing ...
For her, its all the same thing.
Thats quite a statement, isnt it.
Anyway, I had no idea until Sunday that "Food Stamps' were a way of life for so many Americans. 47 million Americans use food stamps. 1 in 7 Americans use food stamps. The use of food stamps has increased 49% since Obama took office.
There are 86 people on this board as we speak. Meaning 12 of them are on food stamps.
Now I know why a few of you here (not you polaris), are so defensive, and in denial.
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
For her, its all the same thing.
Thats quite a statement, isnt it.
Anyway, I had no idea until Sunday that "Food Stamps' were a way of life for so many Americans. 47 million Americans use food stamps. 1 in 7 Americans use food stamps. The use of food stamps has increased 49% since Obama took office.
There are 86 people on this board as we speak. Meaning 12 of them are on food stamps.
Now I know why a few of you here (not you polaris), are so defensive, and in denial.
no one's in denial or defensive. we just know we don't know all the details, or ANY, actually, of this person's situation. neither do you.
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For her, its all the same thing.
Thats quite a statement, isnt it.
Anyway, I had no idea until Sunday that "Food Stamps' were a way of life for so many Americans. 47 million Americans use food stamps. 1 in 7 Americans use food stamps. The use of food stamps has increased 49% since Obama took office.
There are 86 people on this board as we speak. Meaning 12 of them are on food stamps.
Now I know why a few of you here (not you polaris), are so defensive, and in denial.
well ... she could use the food stamps for staples like i said but she would only be doing so to just appease the perception ...
it's not really a political issue ... it's a nation issue like i tried to bring up in my earlier posts ...
it doesn't surprise me that 1 in 7 americans use food stamps ... that's the way the system has been purposefully designed ... a very tiny percentage of the population with the majority of wealth and everyone else fighting for the scraps ...
"We have observed that most of the trouble in this World is caused by ten to twenty percent of folks who cant mind their own business because they have no business of their own to mind." - William S. Burroughs
By definition, isnt the "Food Stamp Program" for lower income households? People struggling to make ends meet? Right?
Dont you find it a bit absurd that one could have so many "Luxury items" such as an ipod, an iphone, jewelry, and a $30,000 car, and yet pay for her groceries with food stamps? And even more absurd, the lower income person is using her food stamps to buy more "Luxury items", such as crab legs and ribeyes?
listen - i understand your frustration ... i am simply trying to provide some perspective ...
just assume my scenario is true ... say it is a daughter who has to care for her mom who might have had a brain injury in an accident or something who can't work and needs constant supervision ... the caregiving costs are simply not affordable for a daughter and a person who can't work and thus not eligible for any health care ... so, she does what she has to do and gets her mom on medicaid ... so, as part of that - she gets food stamps ... this daughter may have what you consider "luxury items" but she also is likely the primary caregiver for this person ... something the state doesn't compensate her for ... so, she shops and cooks for her and her mom ...
do i begrudge this person for buying ribeyes and crab legs!? ... not really ... life isn't always so black and white and it serves me no purpose to try and judge what they've been through as a family ... maybe, you are right and she is scamming the system ... or maybe she is not ... i dunno ... my scenario is not unreasonable because i know people in that situation ...
if this daughter maybe used the food stamps for staples and then used her own money for the ribeyes ... no one would say anything but for her it's all the same thing ...
That person could also be a home health aide; one's who's hired for personal care including cooking and grocery shopping.
But all in all, why speculate? No one knows, but we all know how to get Speedy's panties all in a bunch don't we? So next time anyone is in Speedy's neck of the woods, find some food stamps, a Hummer and go to town at the local mart. Just so he can judge and assume that we're all working the system.
I just saw two black guys in a mercedes drive by me blasting rap and smoking blunts surely they must be in a gang no ? :roll: or am i assuming to much and they must of bought the car with the food stamps they get every week no ?
"We have observed that most of the trouble in this World is caused by ten to twenty percent of folks who cant mind their own business because they have no business of their own to mind." - William S. Burroughs
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Smoke in a tree you say? I'm down, when and where???
Those who have never lived through difficult times, perhaps should read more books. Maybe Barbara Ehrenreich's Nickel and Dimed, documenting her attempt to leave her high paying job and live for a year on minimum wage. Of course she had no kids to provide for.
People are quick to ridicule and despise when they don't know the life story of those they feel contempt for. It is easier to be angry than to understand someone if you haven't walked in their shoes.
a lot of generic food is made by the big companies so youre not missing out on whatever it is people go for in buying brand name goods. and theres usually nothing wrong with reduced produce. i personally do not trust an apple if its blemish free.
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lie beside me
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That's proof that Speedy saw this woman shopping woa that's proof to you :fp: :fp:
Because if you've been there, you're less likely to judge others and assume blindly.
so, if her cart was full of Cheerios, nutri-grain bars, ritz crackers, bagels & store-brand cream cheese, then this would NOT be a waste of taxpayers money,
but because she chose roasts and seafood INSTEAD, ...this IS a waste of taxpayers money
is that what you're saying?
or are you saying that she should have pawned her jewelry and sold her car first?
meaning a person should have no valuables or possessions before they can ask for assistance?
It happens.
There are scam artists in this world.
People commit fraud.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
how you do know for a FACT she wasn't shopping for someone else who was down on their luck and possibly immobile?
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Then again, some want to do all they can to never have to suck on someone else's teat again.
I'd have no problem selling jewelry and other possessions before turning to another for help. Hell, I HAVE sold that shit, among other shit, in order to pay bills and whatnot. Even more valuable/sentimental for me was selling off much of my Beatles vinyl years back. Sucked, but it was that or get the electric bill paid. The tangibles are just that. Not having those things has had no impact on my life, except for the memories.
We do what we have to do.
(and lobster is way overrated)
Food stamp fraud
It exists.
Plain and simple.
We can all google food stamp fraud, and read endless stories of people commiting these types of crimes.
When someone pulls up to the grocery store, in a $30,000 car, with her Ipod, iPhone, and a few thousand dollars worth of jewelry, and then proceeds to pay for her groceries with food stamps?
Im sorry, but there is something wrong with the system.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
This woman has a parent who is in need of medical care. Because costs of health care are absurd - they have made it so that this person qualifies for medicaid which means the aforementioned transferring of assets ... the result is that this person will also qualify for food stamps. The person who is on medicaid and food stamps likely does not need to be if not for her medical care requirements (perhaps she has some long term disability). So, the daughter is simply using up the food stamps as she is entitled to.
Is it abusing the system? Matter of perspective I suppose - can definitely see both sides of this.
So for this family, food stamps have become a "way of life"?
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
assuming the family functions as a unit - she is probably the primary caregiver for this person meaning she has to shop for her, feed her, bathe her, etc...
caregiving is undervalued ... people often have to disrupt their careers, make huge sacrifices because the infrastructure is not there for people with LTD ... so, if the choice is to put a parent on medicaid in order to not suffer huge financial burdens ... it's not unreasonable to think someone who choose to go on it ... food stamps is part of it ... I suppose she could not use them but I don't see why she shouldn't either ... at the end of the day, if you get food stamps - it qualifies you to get a certain amount ... you don't get more or less ... it's kind of strange to think that if she had spent it on crappy processed food that essentially will end up making her a further burden on the system - people would be ok with it ...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Dont you find it a bit absurd that one could have so many "Luxury items" such as an ipod, an iphone, jewelry, and a $30,000 car, and yet pay for her groceries with food stamps? And even more absurd, the lower income person is using her food stamps to buy more "Luxury items", such as crab legs and ribeyes?
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
listen - i understand your frustration ... i am simply trying to provide some perspective ...
just assume my scenario is true ... say it is a daughter who has to care for her mom who might have had a brain injury in an accident or something who can't work and needs constant supervision ... the caregiving costs are simply not affordable for a daughter and a person who can't work and thus not eligible for any health care ... so, she does what she has to do and gets her mom on medicaid ... so, as part of that - she gets food stamps ... this daughter may have what you consider "luxury items" but she also is likely the primary caregiver for this person ... something the state doesn't compensate her for ... so, she shops and cooks for her and her mom ...
do i begrudge this person for buying ribeyes and crab legs!? ... not really ... life isn't always so black and white and it serves me no purpose to try and judge what they've been through as a family ... maybe, you are right and she is scamming the system ... or maybe she is not ... i dunno ... my scenario is not unreasonable because i know people in that situation ...
if this daughter maybe used the food stamps for staples and then used her own money for the ribeyes ... no one would say anything but for her it's all the same thing ...
Every big city in our country must have news stations investigating
and relaying to citizens who are listening who can then contact their representatives
or foodstamp fraud department. I know many getting food stamps who don't need them
but I'm not ready to turn them in. Shame on me I guess.
Thats quite a statement, isnt it.
Anyway, I had no idea until Sunday that "Food Stamps' were a way of life for so many Americans. 47 million Americans use food stamps. 1 in 7 Americans use food stamps. The use of food stamps has increased 49% since Obama took office.
There are 86 people on this board as we speak. Meaning 12 of them are on food stamps.
Now I know why a few of you here (not you polaris), are so defensive, and in denial.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
She wouldnt be sitting next to me.
No doubt in my mind she went for GA tickets.
Hell, she was ENTITLED to GA tickets!!!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
no one's in denial or defensive. we just know we don't know all the details, or ANY, actually, of this person's situation. neither do you.
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Winnipeg 2005
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well ... she could use the food stamps for staples like i said but she would only be doing so to just appease the perception ...
it's not really a political issue ... it's a nation issue like i tried to bring up in my earlier posts ...
it doesn't surprise me that 1 in 7 americans use food stamps ... that's the way the system has been purposefully designed ... a very tiny percentage of the population with the majority of wealth and everyone else fighting for the scraps ...
The World needs more people who think this way.
"We have observed that most of the trouble in this World is caused by ten to twenty percent of folks who cant mind their own business because they have no business of their own to mind." - William S. Burroughs
That person could also be a home health aide; one's who's hired for personal care including cooking and grocery shopping.
But all in all, why speculate? No one knows, but we all know how to get Speedy's panties all in a bunch don't we? So next time anyone is in Speedy's neck of the woods, find some food stamps, a Hummer and go to town at the local mart. Just so he can judge and assume that we're all working the system.
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