Anyone else notice, Ed was NOT playing guitar on hard sun, liam was not playing the drums, and I'm pretty sure Ed was not even singing!
Wtf is up with that, he did it at all 3 nights!
NOT COOL!
Anyone else notice, Ed was NOT playing guitar on hard sun, liam was not playing the drums, and I'm pretty sure Ed was not even singing!
Wtf is up with that, he did it at all 3 nights!
NOT COOL!
This shit started with cornells first solo tour, and even radiohead on the kid a tour
they use that machine that loops their stuff, and than they ride it, now I wasnt at eds but cornell used it with the guitars and his voice, and radiohead did it with the guitar work.
I heard Ed did it with his voice but not music, I am assuming he sung some of it?
Anyone else notice, Ed was NOT playing guitar on hard sun, liam was not playing the drums, and I'm pretty sure Ed was not even singing!
Wtf is up with that, he did it at all 3 nights!
NOT COOL!
what?!??!?!
mic, you know i luv ya...but are you high??? or sarcastic??
i was this[] close to ed in la for hard sun on nite 2 and he was indeed playing/singing. wasnt paying much attention to liam or EJ but ed was def singing/playing
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Ed made it pretty obvious (as if it wasn't already) that he used a pre-recorded track for Hard Sun and accompanied it. This would have been impossible to reproduce with just him, a drummer and a back-up singer in the way that it was originally recorded.
I am 100% positive he wasn't singing EVERYTHING in SD 1, there was one time when he was really far from the mic, no way we could hear him, and he was still coming through, loud and clear...
Believe me, I wasn't happy about it either, but that song was faked!
DUDE! He wasn't exactly hiding it! He used an old reel to reel tape player that had the backing music (without lyrics) - Him and Liam played and sung over it. It was part of the effect...the "experiment" if you will...and it was awesome.
Ed made it pretty obvious (as if it wasn't already) that he used a pre-recorded track for Hard Sun and accompanied it. This would have been impossible to reproduce with just him, a drummer and a back-up singer in the way that it was originally recorded.
oh yeah, i know he used pre-recorded tracks to reproduce the sound of the original recording...i'm just saying he was singing and playing over them, for real. at least in LA on nite 2.
where you there, in LA? and if so, why didnt i see you?
i noticed my phone called you whilst unlocked in my bag..sorry about
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oh yeah, i know he used pre-recorded tracks to reproduce the sound of the original recording...i'm just saying he was singing and playing over them, for real. at least in LA on nite 2.
where you there, in LA? and if so, why didnt i see you?
i noticed my phone called you whilst unlocked in my bag..sorry about
I am 100% in your corner luv.. I think our statements are in agreement.
OOPS Missed part of your comment.. I wasn't in LA.. I went to SC and the Berkeley shows.
Ed made it pretty obvious (as if it wasn't already) that he used a pre-recorded track for Hard Sun and accompanied it. This would have been impossible to reproduce with just him, a drummer and a back-up singer in the way that it was originally recorded.
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I can imagine Ed faking playing the guitar and singing a whole lot more than I can imagine Liam faking on the drums.. not the way he pounds on them.. How do you Drum-sync? Is that a new term?
Hard Sun wasn't the hook for me at any of the shows anyways, so I guess I don't really care.. Indifference!
what?!??!?!
mic, you know i luv ya...but are you high??? or sarcastic??
i was this[] close to ed in la for hard sun on nite 2 and he was indeed playing/singing. wasnt paying much attention to liam or EJ but ed was def singing/playing
It kinda looked like at times that Liam wasn't playing the drums on Hard Sun. Or like he was off at times.
no but it really goes against everyhting he has made fun of for years.
I could care less, but 8 records in he barely does this in the studio for the sole purpose of the live effect. Pj lacks harmonizing on their studio material.
Just a thought dont kill me for it, I know how Ed followers can get, youll probably want me thrown out of the tenclub.
There were backing tracks of everything -- bass drum, guitar, harmony vocals -- as far as I know. But Ed's guitar was wired, his voice was coming through and Liam's drum kit was obvioulsy making noise too.
He wasn't lip syncing. But there was a lot of backing track there. I think he was honest about it though. Kind of highlighted that fact by doing this big reel to reel thing.
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SERIOUSLY!!!! I heard others say he did the same for Arc, I didn't notice one way or the other on that one, they did all sound very different though... and it SURE would be nice if we could get bootlegs of them and sync them all together... like 10 arcs playing at once... OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHH!
There were backing tracks of everything -- bass drum, guitar, harmony vocals -- as far as I know. But Ed's guitar was wired, his voice was coming through and Liam's drum kit was obvioulsy making noise too.
He wasn't lip syncing. But there was a lot of backing track there. I think he was honest about it though. Kind of highlighted that fact by doing this big reel to reel thing.
My thoughts exactly. I didn't think he was trying to hide the fact that there was a backing track. The lead vocals were 100% Ed and that's all I cared about. I didn't go there to see him play guitar. Now that I mention it, a Mike solo show would be awsome
My thoughts exactly. I didn't think he was trying to hide the fact that there was a backing track. The lead vocals were 100% Ed and that's all I cared about. I didn't go there to see him play guitar. Now that I mention it, a Mike solo show would be awsome
he did NOT sing the lead!
NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT!!!!!!
My thoughts exactly. I didn't think he was trying to hide the fact that there was a backing track. The lead vocals were 100% Ed and that's all I cared about. I didn't go there to see him play guitar. Now that I mention it, a Mike solo show would be awsome
he did NOT sing the lead!
NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT!!!!!!
lip synching? i dont care if its for an effect or if it was impossible to re-create a song, lip syching is for untalented pop stars.
please dont start doing this with PJ eddie.
hmmm.. I didn't think he was lip syncing.. I thought he had a back-up track playing that he sang and played guitar along with and Liam drummed along with. This thread is tiring. I gotta get back to work before I get fired and then can't afford to roam about the country chasing music.
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This shit started with cornells first solo tour, and even radiohead on the kid a tour
they use that machine that loops their stuff, and than they ride it, now I wasnt at eds but cornell used it with the guitars and his voice, and radiohead did it with the guitar work.
I heard Ed did it with his voice but not music, I am assuming he sung some of it?
no more shows
mic, you know i luv ya...but are you high??? or sarcastic??
i was this[] close to ed in la for hard sun on nite 2 and he was indeed playing/singing. wasnt paying much attention to liam or EJ but ed was def singing/playing
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Believe me, I wasn't happy about it either, but that song was faked!
where you there, in LA? and if so, why didnt i see you?
i noticed my phone called you whilst unlocked in my bag..sorry about
Get it now, get enough, before its gone, let's everybody carry on, carry on....
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I am 100% in your corner luv.. I think our statements are in agreement.
OOPS Missed part of your comment.. I wasn't in LA.. I went to SC and the Berkeley shows.
We know what Ed is capable of....
We Know he can sing....
He hasn't been some big fraud for 20+ years!
It sure made for great chat while driving back to Denver. lol
I still had a great time in LA and SSSSSSan Diego.
That's hot.
Hard Sun wasn't the hook for me at any of the shows anyways, so I guess I don't really care.. Indifference!
Peace
It kinda looked like at times that Liam wasn't playing the drums on Hard Sun. Or like he was off at times.
What a fun thread this is turning into. hehehe
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no but it really goes against everyhting he has made fun of for years.
I could care less, but 8 records in he barely does this in the studio for the sole purpose of the live effect. Pj lacks harmonizing on their studio material.
Just a thought dont kill me for it, I know how Ed followers can get, youll probably want me thrown out of the tenclub.
no more shows
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzen Diego indeed.
He wasn't lip syncing. But there was a lot of backing track there. I think he was honest about it though. Kind of highlighted that fact by doing this big reel to reel thing.
please dont start doing this with PJ eddie.
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My thoughts exactly. I didn't think he was trying to hide the fact that there was a backing track. The lead vocals were 100% Ed and that's all I cared about. I didn't go there to see him play guitar. Now that I mention it, a Mike solo show would be awsome
NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT!!!!!!
NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT!!!!!!
hmmm.. I didn't think he was lip syncing.. I thought he had a back-up track playing that he sang and played guitar along with and Liam drummed along with. This thread is tiring. I gotta get back to work before I get fired and then can't afford to roam about the country chasing music.
Peace and Love
ed vedder does NOT sing lead vocals on Hard Sun...
Also, there are at least 50 other PJ songs he could have played, I was not thrilled about these setlists!
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