Are we going to have to rewrite the history books and say that a bomb in WWII was dropped by "Enola Alternative Lifestyle"?
I realize this is a joke but you do know that "lifestyle" is another one of those terms we really shudder at, right?
With all the PC, I really don't know anything anymore.
Glad you took it as a joke.
But in all fairness to a person who does not get the "gay" life, it is an alternative lifestyle. Just saying.
Personally, whatever floats your boat, sail that river.
Being gay is not an alternative lifestyle. We choose lifestyles, we don't choose orientation.
I have a thrifty lifestyle, which is a nice way of saying I'm cheap. I choose to do without a lot of material things that many people think are necessities. I save money for large purchases rather than using credit. We drive older cars. I CHOOSE to live this way but I don't have to.
Who I'm attracted to sexually is hardwired into me. And one thing I've learned in my years of living is that there is an enormous variety in human sexuality. Not just in terms of the gender(s) you're attracted to but how you express your attractions. It's not a clear cut, black/white thing. There are relationships that have no appeal to me but if they involve consenting adults who take responsibility for their actions, I don't think I have any business questioning them.
Being gay is not an alternative lifestyle. We choose lifestyles, we don't choose orientation.
I have a thrifty lifestyle, which is a nice way of saying I'm cheap. I choose to do without a lot of material things that many people think are necessities. I save money for large purchases rather than using credit. We drive older cars. I CHOOSE to live this way but I don't have to.
Who I'm attracted to sexually is hardwired into me. And one thing I've learned in my years of living is that there is an enormous variety in human sexuality. Not just in terms of the gender(s) you're attracted to but how you express your attractions. It's not a clear cut, black/white thing. There are relationships that have no appeal to me but if they involve consenting adults who take responsibility for their actions, I don't think I have any business questioning them.[/quote]
yes, and with regard to sexual attraction.. we are all different. Society and "general understanding" is in a very large way controlled by the television and other forms of entertainment. so the prevailing thought on the topic is really bad. It is not a Gay thing really, it is a sex thing. The Gay thing is a combination or our hangups and lack of understanding of sex and attractions and it is badly compounded by insecure ass holes that bully physically and emotionally the things they don't understand. It effects me too, because I don't bully and try hard not to judge people, but when words I choose are also used by assholes, I am confused for a heartless mindless bully. and I am not. I am a nice guy
Being gay is not an alternative lifestyle. We choose lifestyles, we don't choose orientation.
I have a thrifty lifestyle, which is a nice way of saying I'm cheap. I choose to do without a lot of material things that many people think are necessities. I save money for large purchases rather than using credit. We drive older cars. I CHOOSE to live this way but I don't have to.
Who I'm attracted to sexually is hardwired into me. And one thing I've learned in my years of living is that there is an enormous variety in human sexuality. Not just in terms of the gender(s) you're attracted to but how you express your attractions. It's not a clear cut, black/white thing. There are relationships that have no appeal to me but if they involve consenting adults who take responsibility for their actions, I don't think I have any business questioning them.[/quote]
Yes.
I guess I should have stated that I'm not the person who doesn't get it. Thus the line, whatever floats your boat, sail that river.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
But in all fairness to a person who does not get the "gay" life, it is an alternative lifestyle. Just saying.
I'll tell you why it isn't.
The term "Lifestyle" pertains to how one lives their lives. Which ends up being a pretty wide blanket to throw. It suggests that all gay people are the same. And honestly... we're not.
You say "The gay life." There's no such thing. We're not all the same and we don't all spend our lives doing the same things. It's like saying "The American Life" and having a slim view of what those people are like.
While you may have the mental image of a bunch of muscular men with their shirts off dancing under a tent in Palm Springs on E and listening to Trance music, that's just a certain group of people. You might also picture guys who spend all their time flailing their wrists and saying "fabulous" as they help their best girlfriend shop for shoes and find a dress that fits. You also might imagine a bunch of big mean with beards dressed in leather and tango dancing like in the Police Academy movies. But the fact is that none of those represent my life in any way at all.
So... maybe you can explain to me what you think the "gay life" is like. And I'll tell you if that's anything that represents my life in any way at all.
But in all fairness to a person who does not get the "gay" life, it is an alternative lifestyle. Just saying.
I'll tell you why it isn't.
The term "Lifestyle" pertains to how one lives their lives. Which ends up being a pretty wide blanket to throw. It suggests that all gay people are the same. And honestly... we're not.
You say "The gay life." There's no such thing. We're not all the same and we don't all spend our lives doing the same things. It's like saying "The American Life" and having a slim view of what those people are like.
While you may have the mental image of a bunch of muscular men with their shirts off dancing under a tent in Palm Springs on E and listening to Trance music, that's just a certain group of people. You might also picture guys who spend all their time flailing their wrists and saying "fabulous" as they help their best girlfriend shop for shoes and find a dress that fits. You also might imagine a bunch of big mean with beards dressed in leather and tango dancing like in the Police Academy movies. But the fact is that none of those represent my life in any way at all.
So... maybe you can explain to me what you think the "gay life" is like. And I'll tell you if that's anything that represents my life in any way at all.
Some of these people should attend a big city gay-pride festival and then they could see all the different genres
But in all fairness to a person who does not get the "gay" life, it is an alternative lifestyle. Just saying.
I'll tell you why it isn't.
The term "Lifestyle" pertains to how one lives their lives. Which ends up being a pretty wide blanket to throw. It suggests that all gay people are the same. And honestly... we're not.
You say "The gay life." There's no such thing. We're not all the same and we don't all spend our lives doing the same things. It's like saying "The American Life" and having a slim view of what those people are like.
While you may have the mental image of a bunch of muscular men with their shirts off dancing under a tent in Palm Springs on E and listening to Trance music, that's just a certain group of people. You might also picture guys who spend all their time flailing their wrists and saying "fabulous" as they help their best girlfriend shop for shoes and find a dress that fits. You also might imagine a bunch of big mean with beards dressed in leather and tango dancing like in the Police Academy movies. But the fact is that none of those represent my life in any way at all.
So... maybe you can explain to me what you think the "gay life" is like. And I'll tell you if that's anything that represents my life in any way at all.
Some of these people should attend a big city gay-pride festival and then they could see all the different genres
I would disagree with that. I don't think the gay-pride parade is representative of the majority of gay people at all.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I would disagree with that. I don't think the gay-pride parade is representative of the majority of gay people at all.
It depends on which one you go to.
Most parades are very indicative of the most active groups and while there's a whole bunch of different kinds of people you'll see... the news will show ONLY the drag queens, the tweakers, the people in costume throwing glitter and the most outrageous things they can see.
But they'll ignore the Gay Dads, the teacher's union, the sports teams, the guys riding motorcycles, the church groups, the Men's Chorus...all of that.
And the parade is such a small part of the whole festival. Most people don't even go to it. So yeah... you see a lot of different kinds of people... that's for sure.
But in all fairness to a person who does not get the "gay" life, it is an alternative lifestyle. Just saying.
I'll tell you why it isn't.
The term "Lifestyle" pertains to how one lives their lives. Which ends up being a pretty wide blanket to throw. It suggests that all gay people are the same. And honestly... we're not.
You say "The gay life." There's no such thing. We're not all the same and we don't all spend our lives doing the same things. It's like saying "The American Life" and having a slim view of what those people are like.
While you may have the mental image of a bunch of muscular men with their shirts off dancing under a tent in Palm Springs on E and listening to Trance music, that's just a certain group of people. You might also picture guys who spend all their time flailing their wrists and saying "fabulous" as they help their best girlfriend shop for shoes and find a dress that fits. You also might imagine a bunch of big mean with beards dressed in leather and tango dancing like in the Police Academy movies. But the fact is that none of those represent my life in any way at all.
So... maybe you can explain to me what you think the "gay life" is like. And I'll tell you if that's anything that represents my life in any way at all.
As explained in the above post.
But since everybody here seems to have a reading problem. I'll quote Homer Simpson (in jest, as I don't really carre if somebody is gay or not) as that may be read a tad closer.....They ruin all the good names like Bruce and Lance.
Anyway, one of the best nights I've ever had was in Cinci, in a (i don't know whether to use, gay, alternative, fag, drag, etc) bar that had lots of men, as a matter of fact all men, and got hit on all night long and didn't pay for one drink. God love the men who love men! And the fact they thought I was good looking. Boosted the old libido.
Go to the gay parade???? We have a gay week up here in Toronto. Maybe YOU PEOPLE should come and visit instead of commenting about people you don't know.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
While you may have the mental image of a bunch of muscular men with their shirts off dancing under a tent in Palm Springs on E and listening to Trance music, that's just a certain group of people.
You also might imagine a bunch of big mean with beards dressed in leather and tango dancing like in the Police Academy movies. But the fact is that none of those represent my life in any way at all.
Damn it, this is precisely how I picture you. I mean, not that I picture you...I mean...<cough>
Stereotypes abound from and to others. Got it, seen it, heard it.
Kinda sick of it.
So can we agree that there's a melange of differences? I can't stand the painting of "gays" as much as I can't stand the same being done toward "straight white whateverthefuck" or any other label.
I would disagree with that. I don't think the gay-pride parade is representative of the majority of gay people at all.
It depends on which one you go to.
Most parades are very indicative of the most active groups and while there's a whole bunch of different kinds of people you'll see... the news will show ONLY the drag queens, the tweakers, the people in costume throwing glitter and the most outrageous things they can see.
But they'll ignore the Gay Dads, the teacher's union, the sports teams, the guys riding motorcycles, the church groups, the Men's Chorus...all of that.
And the parade is such a small part of the whole festival. Most people don't even go to it. So yeah... you see a lot of different kinds of people... that's for sure.
Well, I've only been to the one in Vancouver (which is really big - perhaps you've gone to it, since you're Canadian I think?), and yes, you're right, there are some small numbers who walk for things like the teacher's union, gay parents groups, etc.... But 80% of it is nearly naked men acting like they're on E or transvestites and drag queens in outlandish costumes, and lesbians riding bikes naked. And it is VERY sexualized. The majority of the people who aren't reinforcing gay stereotypes aren't even gay, i.e. major business leaders, politicians, and local celebrities who participate. I would say that the Vancouver Pride Parade actually reinforces stereotypes. Which is fine for me personally, because I know better, and understand that it's just fun and hell, it's a parade - people are supposed to be silly and outlandish .... But I think maybe too many people don't know better, and in a lot of cases, the Pride Parade, which is meant, I thought, to break down barriers and promote acceptance, actually might do the opposite. With that said, we're generally a pretty accepting bunch here. Something like 300,000+ people come out for it every year and have a really good time (although at 100,000 of them come for the free samples of condoms, lube, and candy that are handed out to the crowds ).
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Anyway, one of the best nights I've ever had was in Cinci, in a (i don't know whether to use, gay, alternative, fag, drag, etc) bar that had lots of men, as a matter of fact all men, and got hit on all night long and didn't pay for one drink. God love the men who love men! And the fact they thought I was good looking. Boosted the old libido.
Ok this is disturbing. We let Canadians into the city????????? :shock:
Anyway, one of the best nights I've ever had was in Cinci, in a (i don't know whether to use, gay, alternative, fag, drag, etc) bar that had lots of men, as a matter of fact all men, and got hit on all night long and didn't pay for one drink. God love the men who love men! And the fact they thought I was good looking. Boosted the old libido.
Ok this is disturbing. We let Canadians into the city????????? :shock:
Anyway, one of the best nights I've ever had was in Cinci, in a (i don't know whether to use, gay, alternative, fag, drag, etc) bar that had lots of men, as a matter of fact all men, and got hit on all night long and didn't pay for one drink. God love the men who love men! And the fact they thought I was good looking. Boosted the old libido.
Ok this is disturbing. We let Canadians into the city????????? :shock:
We snuck in through Toledo. They let anybody in there.
And your crappy baseball team had just won the World Series.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
Go to the gay parade???? We have a gay week up here in Toronto. Maybe YOU PEOPLE should come and visit instead of commenting about people you don't know.
I know. I lived in Toronto for 18 years.
I was the import buyer at HMV who brought in the massive collection of Pearl Jam vinyl, CD singles and Japanese Imports. :twisted:
But yeah... Toronto's Pride day is the best I've been to anywhere. It's just amazing.
Well, I've only been to the one in Vancouver (which is really big - perhaps you've gone to it, since you're Canadian I think?), and yes, you're right, there are some small numbers who walk for things like the teacher's union, gay parents groups, etc.... But 80% of it is nearly naked men acting like they're on E or transvestites and drag queens in outlandish costumes, and lesbians riding bikes naked. And it is VERY sexualized. The majority of the people who aren't reinforcing gay stereotypes aren't even gay, i.e. major business leaders, politicians, and local celebrities who participate.
I'm not really talking about the people who actually put themselves IN the parade (the whole point of a parade is to be big a loud and celebratory and crazy. You don't think the people in the 4th of July parade who dress in sequined Uncle Sam costumes dress like that all the time, do you?
Judging the gay community by who's IN the parade is about as reliable as judging straight people by watching a Girls Gone Wild video or women by watching footage of the wedding dress clearance sale at Macy's basement.
I'm talking about the people in the crowd. The ones just there to have fun and participate.
I would post a picture of me and my twin bro on my bike in the parade but everyone who sees it asks if we're shagging.
Well, I've only been to the one in Vancouver (which is really big - perhaps you've gone to it, since you're Canadian I think?), and yes, you're right, there are some small numbers who walk for things like the teacher's union, gay parents groups, etc.... But 80% of it is nearly naked men acting like they're on E or transvestites and drag queens in outlandish costumes, and lesbians riding bikes naked. And it is VERY sexualized. The majority of the people who aren't reinforcing gay stereotypes aren't even gay, i.e. major business leaders, politicians, and local celebrities who participate.
I'm not really talking about the people who actually put themselves IN the parade (the whole point of a parade is to be big a loud and celebratory and crazy. You don't think the people in the 4th of July parade who dress in sequined Uncle Sam costumes dress like that all the time, do you?
Judging the gay community by who's IN the parade is about as reliable as judging straight people by watching a Girls Gone Wild video or women by watching footage of the wedding dress clearance sale at Macy's basement.
I'm talking about the people in the crowd. The ones just there to have fun and participate.
I would post a picture of me and my twin bro on my bike in the parade but everyone who sees it asks if we're shagging.
I know that. The problem is, a lot of people don't, which is why I think the parade seems to reinforce sterotypes... this would also be fine, except that it seems to be counter to what I thought the parade's purpose is. It's not the costumes, etc... it's the fact that it's so sexualized combined with the outrageousness that sends mixed signals.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I know that. The problem is, a lot of people don't, which is why I think the parade seems to reinforce sterotypes... this would also be fine, except that it seems to be counter to what I thought the parade's purpose is. It's not the costumes, etc... it's the fact that it's so sexualized combined with the outrageousness that sends mixed signals.
And I know just what you mean... although I've always said that if the only way for us to gain legal equality is to keep quiet and pretend we're not here or turn our one day of over-the-top celebration into a CPAC look-alike contest... I'll stay right here in the ditch, thanks.
I think we'll only gain legal equality on our own terms. It's worked so far.
And most of all.. I just want legal equality... I don't care what anyone thinks of me. I do NOT support votes on equality in any way because to me it's unAmerican. Which is why I didn't give any money to Proposition 8 or any other ballot initiative. These are matters for the courts to say "No. You cannot vote on that."
I know that. The problem is, a lot of people don't, which is why I think the parade seems to reinforce sterotypes... this would also be fine, except that it seems to be counter to what I thought the parade's purpose is. It's not the costumes, etc... it's the fact that it's so sexualized combined with the outrageousness that sends mixed signals.
And I know just what you mean... although I've always said that if the only way for us to gain legal equality is to keep quiet and pretend we're not here or turn our one day of over-the-top celebration into a CPAC look-alike contest... I'll stay right here in the ditch, thanks.
I think we'll only gain legal equality on our own terms. It's worked so far.
And most of all.. I just want legal equality... I don't care what anyone thinks of me. I do NOT support votes on equality in any way because to me it's unAmerican. Which is why I didn't give any money to Proposition 8 or any other ballot initiative. These are matters for the courts to say "No. You cannot vote on that."
I think it is sickening that issues like marriage equality (and in the past, shit like whether or not gay teachers can teach) are put to a vote by the population. Wtf is that???
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I think it is sickening that issues like marriage equality (and in the past, shit like whether or not gay teachers can teach) are put to a vote by the population. Wtf is that???
Can you imagine if we put segregation to a vote in the 60s?
I think it is sickening that issues like marriage equality (and in the past, shit like whether or not gay teachers can teach) are put to a vote by the population. Wtf is that???
Can you imagine if we put segregation to a vote in the 60s?
Or interracial marriage?
Or women's suffrage?
Or the Emancipation Proclamation?
No shit! Those referendums should be outlawed.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Having been to gay pride picnics, carnivals, and even marched in a gay pride parade I can attest there are plenty of "regular" people on hand. But I have a lot of admiration for the drag queens and other gays who are willing to subject themselves to ridicule and worse because they are proud of who they are.
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With all the PC, I really don't know anything anymore.
Glad you took it as a joke.
But in all fairness to a person who does not get the "gay" life, it is an alternative lifestyle. Just saying.
Personally, whatever floats your boat, sail that river.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
I have a thrifty lifestyle, which is a nice way of saying I'm cheap. I choose to do without a lot of material things that many people think are necessities. I save money for large purchases rather than using credit. We drive older cars. I CHOOSE to live this way but I don't have to.
Who I'm attracted to sexually is hardwired into me. And one thing I've learned in my years of living is that there is an enormous variety in human sexuality. Not just in terms of the gender(s) you're attracted to but how you express your attractions. It's not a clear cut, black/white thing. There are relationships that have no appeal to me but if they involve consenting adults who take responsibility for their actions, I don't think I have any business questioning them.
I have a thrifty lifestyle, which is a nice way of saying I'm cheap. I choose to do without a lot of material things that many people think are necessities. I save money for large purchases rather than using credit. We drive older cars. I CHOOSE to live this way but I don't have to.
Who I'm attracted to sexually is hardwired into me. And one thing I've learned in my years of living is that there is an enormous variety in human sexuality. Not just in terms of the gender(s) you're attracted to but how you express your attractions. It's not a clear cut, black/white thing. There are relationships that have no appeal to me but if they involve consenting adults who take responsibility for their actions, I don't think I have any business questioning them.[/quote]
yes, and with regard to sexual attraction.. we are all different. Society and "general understanding" is in a very large way controlled by the television and other forms of entertainment. so the prevailing thought on the topic is really bad. It is not a Gay thing really, it is a sex thing. The Gay thing is a combination or our hangups and lack of understanding of sex and attractions and it is badly compounded by insecure ass holes that bully physically and emotionally the things they don't understand. It effects me too, because I don't bully and try hard not to judge people, but when words I choose are also used by assholes, I am confused for a heartless mindless bully. and I am not. I am a nice guy
I have a thrifty lifestyle, which is a nice way of saying I'm cheap. I choose to do without a lot of material things that many people think are necessities. I save money for large purchases rather than using credit. We drive older cars. I CHOOSE to live this way but I don't have to.
Who I'm attracted to sexually is hardwired into me. And one thing I've learned in my years of living is that there is an enormous variety in human sexuality. Not just in terms of the gender(s) you're attracted to but how you express your attractions. It's not a clear cut, black/white thing. There are relationships that have no appeal to me but if they involve consenting adults who take responsibility for their actions, I don't think I have any business questioning them.[/quote]
Yes.
I guess I should have stated that I'm not the person who doesn't get it. Thus the line, whatever floats your boat, sail that river.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
I'll tell you why it isn't.
The term "Lifestyle" pertains to how one lives their lives. Which ends up being a pretty wide blanket to throw. It suggests that all gay people are the same. And honestly... we're not.
You say "The gay life." There's no such thing. We're not all the same and we don't all spend our lives doing the same things. It's like saying "The American Life" and having a slim view of what those people are like.
While you may have the mental image of a bunch of muscular men with their shirts off dancing under a tent in Palm Springs on E and listening to Trance music, that's just a certain group of people. You might also picture guys who spend all their time flailing their wrists and saying "fabulous" as they help their best girlfriend shop for shoes and find a dress that fits. You also might imagine a bunch of big mean with beards dressed in leather and tango dancing like in the Police Academy movies. But the fact is that none of those represent my life in any way at all.
So... maybe you can explain to me what you think the "gay life" is like. And I'll tell you if that's anything that represents my life in any way at all.
Some of these people should attend a big city gay-pride festival and then they could see all the different genres
It depends on which one you go to.
Most parades are very indicative of the most active groups and while there's a whole bunch of different kinds of people you'll see... the news will show ONLY the drag queens, the tweakers, the people in costume throwing glitter and the most outrageous things they can see.
But they'll ignore the Gay Dads, the teacher's union, the sports teams, the guys riding motorcycles, the church groups, the Men's Chorus...all of that.
And the parade is such a small part of the whole festival. Most people don't even go to it. So yeah... you see a lot of different kinds of people... that's for sure.
OK... you HAVE to watch this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_OQeA3GiRw
I piss myself laughing every time I see this.
As explained in the above post.
But since everybody here seems to have a reading problem. I'll quote Homer Simpson (in jest, as I don't really carre if somebody is gay or not) as that may be read a tad closer.....They ruin all the good names like Bruce and Lance.
Anyway, one of the best nights I've ever had was in Cinci, in a (i don't know whether to use, gay, alternative, fag, drag, etc) bar that had lots of men, as a matter of fact all men, and got hit on all night long and didn't pay for one drink. God love the men who love men! And the fact they thought I was good looking. Boosted the old libido.
Go to the gay parade???? We have a gay week up here in Toronto. Maybe YOU PEOPLE should come and visit instead of commenting about people you don't know.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
Damn it, this is precisely how I picture you. I mean, not that I picture you...I mean...<cough>
Kinda sick of it.
So can we agree that there's a melange of differences? I can't stand the painting of "gays" as much as I can't stand the same being done toward "straight white whateverthefuck" or any other label.
It's all a tapestry.
Ok this is disturbing. We let Canadians into the city????????? :shock:
- Nelson
We snuck in through Toledo. They let anybody in there.
And your crappy baseball team had just won the World Series.
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
I know. I lived in Toronto for 18 years.
I was the import buyer at HMV who brought in the massive collection of Pearl Jam vinyl, CD singles and Japanese Imports. :twisted:
But yeah... Toronto's Pride day is the best I've been to anywhere. It's just amazing.
I'm not really talking about the people who actually put themselves IN the parade (the whole point of a parade is to be big a loud and celebratory and crazy. You don't think the people in the 4th of July parade who dress in sequined Uncle Sam costumes dress like that all the time, do you?
Judging the gay community by who's IN the parade is about as reliable as judging straight people by watching a Girls Gone Wild video or women by watching footage of the wedding dress clearance sale at Macy's basement.
I'm talking about the people in the crowd. The ones just there to have fun and participate.
I would post a picture of me and my twin bro on my bike in the parade but everyone who sees it asks if we're shagging.
And I know just what you mean... although I've always said that if the only way for us to gain legal equality is to keep quiet and pretend we're not here or turn our one day of over-the-top celebration into a CPAC look-alike contest... I'll stay right here in the ditch, thanks.
I think we'll only gain legal equality on our own terms. It's worked so far.
And most of all.. I just want legal equality... I don't care what anyone thinks of me. I do NOT support votes on equality in any way because to me it's unAmerican. Which is why I didn't give any money to Proposition 8 or any other ballot initiative. These are matters for the courts to say "No. You cannot vote on that."
Can you imagine if we put segregation to a vote in the 60s?
Or interracial marriage?
Or women's suffrage?
Or the Emancipation Proclamation?
Can we still do this??????
:fp:
Having been to gay pride picnics, carnivals, and even marched in a gay pride parade I can attest there are plenty of "regular" people on hand. But I have a lot of admiration for the drag queens and other gays who are willing to subject themselves to ridicule and worse because they are proud of who they are.