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    IrishGuyIrishGuy Posts: 258
    tix is one time use only..

    For a memory that will last a life time.
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,109

    come on..benny is 10 years lp..u keep it forever,and there is a market out there.sell it,listen,use it,resell it..
    tix is one time use only..


    For you. Maybe for someone it takes up space in the closet?

    And if you miss the concert, it's gone. Not going to happen again. You can always find the LP again.

    Personally, I think people should be able to do what they want. I find offering to buy drinks all night and other merch to be more inappropriate then a trade for any item, regardless of current market value.
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    pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 14,713
    It is easy to understand both sides, especially in a utopian mind.

    However the world isnt always utopian, and in fact its far from it.

    so Im a believer in also saying trade away. A popularity contest is never fun, ask the guy who never got picked for football in high school.
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    i understand some points,but people using as argument..the market price of A 10C TIX

    There is no such thing..

    and thats the fuckin point of the thread

    we dont need to make-create one..

    and all need to know..84$ is the price for a 10c tix to wrigley..

    no tricks and shit trade for cover..

    i post already the if 2 people are ok with the trade..i know that already..
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    pdalowsky wrote:
    It is easy to understand both sides, especially in a utopian mind.

    However the world isnt always utopian, and in fact its far from it.

    so Im a believer in also saying trade away. A popularity contest is never fun, ask the guy who never got picked for football in high school.
    hasha,,that was a funny exable paul..i know what you mean..
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158

    come on..benny is 10 years lp..u keep it forever,and there is a market out there.sell it,listen,use it,resell it..
    tix is one time use only..


    For you. Maybe for someone it takes up space in the closet?

    And if you miss the concert, it's gone. Not going to happen again. You can always find the LP again.

    Personally, I think people should be able to do what they want. I find offering to buy drinks all night and other merch to be more inappropriate then a trade for any item, regardless of current market value.
    oh sure..drink,and etc as offer is worst..
    you can buy someone all night drinks,without feeling you own him something..

    ok..if the trade involved sex..its tempting.. :lol:
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    AfghanTwilightAfghanTwilight Rochester, NY Posts: 835
    I'd never trade vinyl for a concert ticket - there's always another show to attend (though the FC doesn't guarantee that any longer). However, if you're like me, you purchased your Binaural(s) at retail originally and didn't pay ANYWHERE near the market prices.

    So in that case, what originally cost well under $20 for a record in exchange for a ticket over $80 at face is unfair...to the ticket seller.

    It's all in the eye of the beholder. And no, i'd never sell my Binaurals for face. The market is what it is. Always.

    Who cares what anyone does with their things? If it's not your cup of tea, order a cup of something else.
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    deftonesdeftones Athens, Greece Posts: 2,444
    If I put a gun on your head and take you money then we both gonna be happy cause I took the money and you saved your life. Ok this is just a little childish example but this is more or less. Getting my hand on Binaural, or any other vinyl is hard and someone taking advantage of my wish to see the band is not good. Furthermore this could start a new trend here with people not planing to go to a show taking part in the draw, and then if it happens to win they will end up with vinyls and other collectible things in their hand. Who could check that this is not gonna happen?
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    deftones wrote:
    If I put a gun on your head and take you money then we both gonna be happy cause I took the money and you saved your life. Ok this is just a little childish example but this is more or less. Getting my hand on Binaural, or any other vinyl is hard and someone taking advantage of my wish to see the band is not good. Furthermore this could start a new trend here with people not planing to go to a show taking part in the draw, and then if it happens to win they will end up with vinyls and other collectible things in their hand. Who could check that this is not gonna happen?
    except that i totally agree,this Grek speak better English than me by miles!! :lol:
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    deftonesdeftones Athens, Greece Posts: 2,444
    deftones wrote:
    If I put a gun on your head and take you money then we both gonna be happy cause I took the money and you saved your life. Ok this is just a little childish example but this is more or less. Getting my hand on Binaural, or any other vinyl is hard and someone taking advantage of my wish to see the band is not good. Furthermore this could start a new trend here with people not planing to go to a show taking part in the draw, and then if it happens to win they will end up with vinyls and other collectible things in their hand. Who could check that this is not gonna happen?
    except that i totally agree,this Grek speak better English than me by miles!! :lol:
    :lol: any English would look good to you, ask the others about my English... :lol:
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    deftones wrote:
    deftones wrote:
    If I put a gun on your head and take you money then we both gonna be happy cause I took the money and you saved your life. Ok this is just a little childish example but this is more or less. Getting my hand on Binaural, or any other vinyl is hard and someone taking advantage of my wish to see the band is not good. Furthermore this could start a new trend here with people not planing to go to a show taking part in the draw, and then if it happens to win they will end up with vinyls and other collectible things in their hand. Who could check that this is not gonna happen?
    except that i totally agree,this Grek speak better English than me by miles!! :lol:
    :lol: any English would look good to you, ask the others about my English... :lol:
    shit,,i nevr thought of it.. :lol::lol::lol:
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    pdalowsky wrote:
    understand the 'spirit' of the post,

    but if people cant do it here it just drives them to ebay....

    its a shame people dont take a breath and wait for the ticket prices to tumble nearer the time.

    some crazy trades being offered up and i remain convinced when those fall dates drop the arse will fall out of the wrigley demand


    Exactly.
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    AfghanTwilightAfghanTwilight Rochester, NY Posts: 835
    Koi No Yokan hs all my attention right now.
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    shepshep Houston Posts: 5,647
    As someone who never got any tickets via the 10C lottery and spent over an hour in the waiting room on Saturday only to be told the show was sold out (while only looking for a single ticket), and being someone who will not pay a scalper money for any tickets what-so-ever and won't win any popularity contest on these forums for someone to sell him a spare GA...

    All I have to say is:

    You don't get to have it both ways.

    How is flipping merchandise any different than flipping tickets?

    People come on here and flip merch all the time, and little to nothing is said about it.

    People aren't coming on here flipping the tickets. People are offering up trades - as many pointed out, the things they are offering only have a perceived value.

    Personally, if I had a spare GA ticket, and someone offered me a $25 vinyl for it, I'd think I was getting ripped off. I'd rather have the $84. But that's just me. If we're not allowed to sell tickets above market value here - why is it any different for merch? To me, that's BS.

    I've got many things I could offer to trade for a ticket - like many others around here. Am I gonna do it? No. Should I be allowed to do it if I want? Well... let me put it this way. It'd be perfectly acceptable to take my PJ20 backpack out and offer if up for $300 and someone would probably praise me for giving it such a good price - however try and trade it for an $84 ticket (which is pretty much the equivalent in terms of original price)... that's unacceptable.

    It's all just a little too hypocritical for me.

    Let people do what they want with tickets - 10C sold them to you, just like all the rest of the stuff you're trading.

    Good luck to everyone looking for tickets. I hope you have better luck than I.
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    You can trade and set a reasonable price here for Pearl Jam memorabilia as long as the item is not available elsewhere on the site.

    * Flipping is buying items (from Ten Club or merch booth, etc.) with the intent to resell for a profit.

    am i read this wrong???

    why you guys compare the tix with the merchandise?


    ticket policy is away different than merch..

    i dont get it..

    what cant have both sides..??

    trades -sales merch is this forum about..

    10c Tickets is a whole different thing.....

    i really dont understand why the conversation changing and forget the detail..

    there is NO MARKET CALLED 10C TIX..

    FACE VALUE IS THE ONLY WAY TO SELL YOUR TICKET.//


    AND FACE VALUE IS 84$ FOR WRIGLEY..

    NO,lp,no beds,no rides,no date my sister for my spare...
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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    shep wrote:
    As someone who never got any tickets via the 10C lottery and spent over an hour in the waiting room on Saturday only to be told the show was sold out (while only looking for a single ticket), and being someone who will not pay a scalper money for any tickets what-so-ever and won't win any popularity contest on these forums for someone to sell him a spare GA...

    All I have to say is:

    You don't get to have it both ways.

    How is flipping merchandise any different than flipping tickets?

    People come on here and flip merch all the time, and little to nothing is said about it.

    People aren't coming on here flipping the tickets. People are offering up trades - as many pointed out, the things they are offering only have a perceived value.

    Personally, if I had a spare GA ticket, and someone offered me a $25 vinyl for it, I'd think I was getting ripped off. I'd rather have the $84. But that's just me. If we're not allowed to sell tickets above market value here - why is it any different for merch? To me, that's BS.

    I've got many things I could offer to trade for a ticket - like many others around here. Am I gonna do it? No. Should I be allowed to do it if I want? Well... let me put it this way. It'd be perfectly acceptable to take my PJ20 backpack out and offer if up for $300 and someone would probably praise me for giving it such a good price - however try and trade it for an $84 ticket (which is pretty much the equivalent in terms of original price)... that's unacceptable.

    It's all just a little too hypocritical for me.

    Let people do what they want with tickets - 10C sold them to you, just like all the rest of the stuff you're trading.

    Good luck to everyone looking for tickets. I hope you have better luck than I.

    Genius comment 8-)

    Did the people who were able to buy Benaroya Hall originally not hit the lottery in a sense? Just sayin..
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    deftones wrote:
    If I put a gun on your head and take you money then we both gonna be happy cause I took the money and you saved your life. Ok this is just a little childish example but this is more or less. Getting my hand on Binaural, or any other vinyl is hard and someone taking advantage of my wish to see the band is not good. Furthermore this could start a new trend here with people not planing to go to a show taking part in the draw, and then if it happens to win they will end up with vinyls and other collectible things in their hand. Who could check that this is not gonna happen?
    except that i totally agree,this Grek speak better English than me by miles!! :lol:

    Wrong, again - you would still have to show up to pick up your tickets. So, if you don't intend to go, picking up tickets would not be attractive unless you are "in the business."

    And, again - Dimi - there IS a market. Just because you and the 10C don't want to aknowledge it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    For the record - I'd never do any of this. Hell, most of the time I buy tickets, and give away the extras I bought (and I don't mean just for PJ.) to friends.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    deftones wrote:
    If I put a gun on your head and take you money then we both gonna be happy cause I took the money and you saved your life. Ok this is just a little childish example but this is more or less. Getting my hand on Binaural, or any other vinyl is hard and someone taking advantage of my wish to see the band is not good. Furthermore this could start a new trend here with people not planing to go to a show taking part in the draw, and then if it happens to win they will end up with vinyls and other collectible things in their hand. Who could check that this is not gonna happen?
    except that i totally agree,this Grek speak better English than me by miles!! :lol:

    Wrong, again - you would still have to show up to pick up your tickets. So, if you don't intend to go, picking up tickets would not be attractive unless you are "in the business."

    And, again - Dimi - there IS a market. Just because you and the 10C don't want to aknowledge it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    For the record - I'd never do any of this. Hell, most of the time I buy tickets, and give away the extras I bought (and I don't mean just for PJ.) to friends.
    ok..

    where i can buy 10c tix today ..??

    please anyone knows to tell me..

    cos i found 3000 non 10c tix...and not even one 10c tix out there

    and i know you do this things buddy...
    and im not talking people who do stuff to help,.to put good...

    someone who try to helps in any way isnt bad..

    but no need to let the smart-asses to find the change to fuck the last thing left cant be touched in the forum..

    the face value of 10c tickets...

    out of here ,alot can happen...

    i dont see why need to happen here
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    ok..

    where i can buy 10c tix today ..??

    please anyone knows to tell me..

    Good point. And as you pointed out before, it's ok to sell if not available elsewhere on the site (realizing tix are special case). So, thank you for making another point for the - keep out of other people's business as long as you aren't charging cash.

    Again - Binaural was sold for $35 or whatever on this site. No longer is. Tix were sold on this site for $84 or whatever. No longer is. Seems like the Binaural trader is losing out. What's the issue?
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
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    ok..

    where i can buy 10c tix today ..??

    please anyone knows to tell me..

    cos i found 3000 non 10c tix...and not even one 10c tix out there

    and i know you do this things buddy...
    and im not talking people who do stuff to help,.to put good...

    someone who try to helps in any way isnt bad..

    but no need to let the smart-asses to find the change to fuck the last thing left cant be touched in the forum..

    the face value of 10c tickets...

    out of here ,alot can happen...

    i dont see why need to happen here

    Ah!!! So you're broader argument is - it's ok, just don't do it here. I've never bought into that notion.

    I actually think PJ should charge MARKET prices (there's the phrase again) for their tickets, so they don't have to worry about making silly rules that nobody can legally define.

    You sold the tix. Yor make folks pick them up at the box office. You've done your part. Move on.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    ok..

    where i can buy 10c tix today ..??

    please anyone knows to tell me..

    Good point. And as you pointed out before, it's ok to sell if not available elsewhere on the site (realizing tix are special case). So, thank you for making another point for the - keep out of other people's business as long as you aren't charging cash.

    Again - Binaural was sold for $35 or whatever on this site. No longer is. Tix were sold on this site for $84 or whatever. No longer is. Seems like the Binaural trader is losing out. What's the issue?
    where i can buy binaural for 35?

    AGAIN...

    ticket policy isnt the same as the merch policy...

    am i fuckin talking chinese?

    i really dont understand what u guys cant see....

    i really would like to see what 10c has to say about it..

    its apple and oranges...

    is those two the same thing??

    maybe is my english
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    shepshep Houston Posts: 5,647

    am i read this wrong???

    why you guys compare the tix with the merchandise?


    ticket policy is away different than merch..

    i dont get it..

    what cant have both sides..??

    trades -sales merch is this forum about..

    10c Tickets is a whole different thing.....

    i really dont understand why the conversation changing and forget the detail..

    there is NO MARKET CALLED 10C TIX..

    FACE VALUE IS THE ONLY WAY TO SELL YOUR TICKET.//


    AND FACE VALUE IS 84$ FOR WRIGLEY..

    NO,lp,no beds,no rides,no date my sister for my spare...

    Whether the 10C wants to acknowledge it or not - there is a market for 10C tickets.

    Being the people on this forum who missed out or the scalpers who are in the fan club who will pick up their tickets day of the show and sell them out front of the stadium... This market is small, but it still exists. I've seen it at PJ shows, I've seen it at EV shows... it exists. It is not a figment of my imagination.

    To me, the solution for solving this problem is easy:TOUR. If the band actually toured and the market for 10C tickets was massively expanded, this issue wouldn't exist. Nobody would be offering up their vinyl to trade for high-demand tickets. The solution is easy to implement... just conduct an actual tour that allows people to go to the shows.

    Tickets are a product, just like merchandise. Their perceived value is once again in the eye of the beholder. If someone says that the ticket is worth a binaural... well, that's their prerogative.

    Like Ed here, to me tickets are worth little more than the value of the person who I get to spend the time with and the show itself. When I go to a show with friends that have money, I ask them to pay for it... when I go to a show with friends I know that don't have money... I don't bother to ask. If they ask me how much the ticket costs, I'll tell them to buy me a beer and to have a good time. That's how much a ticket is worth to me.
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    we all asgree buddy..tour...yes..more shows...

    and still..waiting..someone to tell me where i can buy 10c tickets in the marker...

    there is not any damn market for 10c tix ,than the one we the fans having here..

    giving our spare tix to a fan only for face value..

    i dont see why..any of you supporting the creation of that market...with the trade cover..
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,109
    i understand some points,but people using as argument..the market price of A 10C TIX

    There is no such thing..

    and thats the fuckin point of the thread

    we dont need to make-create one..

    and all need to know..84$ is the price for a 10c tix to wrigley..

    no tricks and shit trade for cover..

    i post already the if 2 people are ok with the trade..i know that already..

    The market price of a 10C ticket is $84, correct. Why can't someone trade an item they bought for $35 for it?
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    i understand some points,but people using as argument..the market price of A 10C TIX

    There is no such thing..

    and thats the fuckin point of the thread

    we dont need to make-create one..

    and all need to know..84$ is the price for a 10c tix to wrigley..

    no tricks and shit trade for cover..

    i post already the if 2 people are ok with the trade..i know that already..

    The market price of a 10C ticket is $84, correct. Why can't someone trade an item they bought for $35 for it?
    he can

    sell it for 35 here and add 49 to buy the tic..

    im sure you understand what i mean..

    i really intresting of 10c saying about it
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    I believe at some point 10c will shut this forum down. Just my thoughts. No insider information. Pure speculation.
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    I believe at some point 10c will shut this forum down. Just my thoughts. No insider information. Pure speculation.
    i thought that too
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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    I believe at some point 10c will shut this forum down. Just my thoughts. No insider information. Pure speculation.
    I think they will just rename it

    "Flippers Paradise"
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    I believe at some point 10c will shut this forum down. Just my thoughts. No insider information. Pure speculation.
    I think they will just rename it

    "Flippers Paradise"
    :lol::lol:
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    And You want my $0.02 worth?

    Why cant people just pay fucking money for a ticket like the rest of us do? Why cant they sit at the computer, with credit card in hand, and get tickets like the rest of us do?

    I dont give a fuck if you have a record album from Soldier Field, and you expect to be given 2 concert tickets, for that fucking album. To me that fucking album has the same value as a roll of toilet paper. You want tickets? Go in your fucking wallet and pay for tickets, like the rest of us normal human beings do.

    Praise the Lord!
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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