No ma'am, I won't register my guns

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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    That's wonderful.

    I despise people that wish to take my rights away from me, especially when their laws won't do anything to make the situation better.
  • unsung wrote:
    That's wonderful.

    I despise people that wish to take my rights away from me, especially when their laws won't do anything to make the situation better.

    you mean kind of like making abortion illegal?
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    unsung wrote:
    That's wonderful.

    I despise people that wish to take my rights away from me, especially when their laws won't do anything to make the situation better.

    back in the 90s we had a massacre here in australia that shocked outraged and deeply saddened us all. the govt of the time did what was within its power to do to make sure it never happened again. we gave up our guns and you know what? we havent had a massacre since. now granted... we have no bill of rights because we had no war to gain our independence. we also do not and have never had the gun culture that the US has. i understand the 2nd amendment, i understand the climate in which it was drafted and i understand peoples reaction to being disarmed cause they hold the bill rights so tight in their hand.. but what i do not understand is the sitting on hands of people who swear they will relinquish their weaponry only when its pried out of their cold dead hands and yet offer no alternate solution. do you all really think this is an acceptable price to pay for this so called freedom? isnt at least curbing what is available worth trying? sure you can trot out the 'but the criminals will stilll be able to get guns so i need mine just in case' all you like the fact remains more guns does not make a community safer. last week i went to the art museum of st louis and there by the front door was a sign declaring the museum to be a firearms free zone. WTF? seriously? where i come from thats just a fucking given.
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  • last week i went to the art museum of st louis and there by the front door was a sign declaring the museum to be a firearms free zone. WTF? seriously? where i come from thats just a fucking given.

    it boggles the mind, doesn't it?
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    last week i went to the art museum of st louis and there by the front door was a sign declaring the museum to be a firearms free zone. WTF? seriously? where i come from thats just a fucking given.
    Each New Years Eve, the city of St. Louis runs a commercial where the police commissioner begs the citizens not to fire their guns into the air when the clock hits midnight.

    :fp:
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,173
    following the constitution isn't wrong, the fact that such a ridiculous thing is IN the constitution is preposterous.

    I don't think it is so ridiculous that it is in the constitution, but I do think it is an idea better suited to the time it was written than to today.

    The constitution is a document written by mortal men. It is not perfect and neither were its authors. I do think the blind devotion to it, at some point, begins to resemble religion more than political philosophy. It is defended as if it is the word of god and not the words of mortal men.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    last week i went to the art museum of st louis and there by the front door was a sign declaring the museum to be a firearms free zone. WTF? seriously? where i come from thats just a fucking given.

    it boggles the mind, doesn't it?

    almost as much as the fact that 4 different police departments have jurisdiction over penn station in NYC. that was a definte WTF moment. i thought 4? isnt that a bit of overkill??
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  • JimmyV wrote:
    following the constitution isn't wrong, the fact that such a ridiculous thing is IN the constitution is preposterous.

    I don't think it is so ridiculous that it is in the constitution, but I do think it is an idea better suited to the time it was written than to today.

    The constitution is a document written by mortal men. It is not perfect and neither were its authors. I do think the blind devotion to it, at some point, begins to resemble religion more than political philosophy. It is defended as if it is the word of god and not the words of mortal men.

    I should have been clearer. I meant that it's ridiculous that it's STILL in the constitution. I completely understand its importance when it was written, but it's out dated and can't possibly be applied to today by any sane human being.

    that's why they have ammendments.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,173
    JimmyV wrote:
    following the constitution isn't wrong, the fact that such a ridiculous thing is IN the constitution is preposterous.

    I don't think it is so ridiculous that it is in the constitution, but I do think it is an idea better suited to the time it was written than to today.

    The constitution is a document written by mortal men. It is not perfect and neither were its authors. I do think the blind devotion to it, at some point, begins to resemble religion more than political philosophy. It is defended as if it is the word of god and not the words of mortal men.

    I should have been clearer. I meant that it's ridiculous that it's STILL in the constitution. I completely understand its importance when it was written, but it's out dated and can't possibly be applied to today by any sane human being.

    that's why they have ammendments.

    Agreed.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,641
    unsung wrote:
    It's about the value of life.
    whats the price of a single bullet? Things continue as they are , THATS the value of life.

    At present both are legal under the law.

    I find it kinda odd that someone who has had and continues to have the US gov crawl up their ass and back in backround checks for the sensitive job they have would be this concerned with the same for weapons whos ONLY purpose is to kill as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Jason P wrote:
    last week i went to the art museum of st louis and there by the front door was a sign declaring the museum to be a firearms free zone. WTF? seriously? where i come from thats just a fucking given.
    Each New Years Eve, the city of St. Louis runs a commercial where the police commissioner begs the citizens not to fire their guns into the air when the clock hits midnight.

    :fp:

    holy crap! i gotta be there/here for that. yeehaw!!!!! :lol::lol::lol:
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Someone wanting to do the most damage to human life will choose a gun free zone.
    Like a movie theatre, school, church, museum.

    You can now get an ap for your phone showing the 20 closest gun free public places.
  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    edited April 2013
    pandora wrote:
    Someone wanting to do the most damage to human life will choose a gun free zone.
    Like a movie theater, school, church, or museum.

    You can now get an app for your phone showing the 20 closest gun free public places.
    Sorry I wanted to say something but I ended up not being able.

    :D
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    STAYSEA wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Someone wanting to do the most damage to human life will choose a gun free zone.
    Like a movie theater, school, church, or museum.

    You can now get an app for your phone showing the 20 closest gun free public places.
    Sorry I wanted to say something but I ended up not being able, so I fixed the spelling?

    if that is a question then the answer is.. no you didn't.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,959
    edited April 2013
    last week i went to the art museum of st louis and there by the front door was a sign declaring the museum to be a firearms free zone. WTF? seriously? where i come from thats just a fucking given.

    it boggles the mind, doesn't it?
    Yes.

    Btw, nice conversation everyone. I'm :corn: :corn:
    I would jump in (been trying hard not to) but you're saying everything I would say and more already... except all the shit that would get me detention. But I will say that i think ghe gun CULTURE in the US seems to be the basic problem, and it is shared by criminals and non-criminals aliKe. And those who work to maintain this gun culture, of course, are the propagators of the problem (I'm lookin at you, unsung, those with ideas similar tk yours, and the NRA of course... and Hollywood ain't helping, I have to admit, although hesitantly, since nations exposed to the same thing aren't affected strongly... I think it's the fact that Americans make those films and they are about them is an issue within America maybe... but that is not the main problem here, and that is an issue to be discussed separately I guess). Changing this gun culture to a non-gun culture (and I don't mean change into a violence free utopia - I mean only getting in line with other western cultures for now so that things are simply down to a controllable level) will be difficult and long... maybe impossible, considering the fact that there is so much resistance to such change. But deep cultural change is always slow. I think someday (pekbably beyond our lifetimes) people in the US will look back and :fp: about how things were going in the early 21st century as far as gun laws and attitudes about them went. It will seem uncivilized (at best) I suspect.
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  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    unsung wrote:
    That's wonderful.

    I despise people that wish to take my rights away from me, especially when their laws won't do anything to make the situation better.

    back in the 90s we had a massacre here in australia that shocked outraged and deeply saddened us all. the govt of the time did what was within its power to do to make sure it never happened again. we gave up our guns and you know what? we havent had a massacre since. now granted... we have no bill of rights because we had no war to gain our independence. we also do not and have never had the gun culture that the US has. i understand the 2nd amendment, i understand the climate in which it was drafted and i understand peoples reaction to being disarmed cause they hold the bill rights so tight in their hand.. but what i do not understand is the sitting on hands of people who swear they will relinquish their weaponry only when its pried out of their cold dead hands and yet offer no alternate solution. do you all really think this is an acceptable price to pay for this so called freedom? isnt at least curbing what is available worth trying? sure you can trot out the 'but the criminals will stilll be able to get guns so i need mine just in case' all you like the fact remains more guns does not make a community safer. last week i went to the art museum of st louis and there by the front door was a sign declaring the museum to be a firearms free zone. WTF? seriously? where i come from thats just a fucking given.


    For me it's not an issue of whither the country will be safer or not. Personally, I don't see how the country will be safer by taking certain types of guns away from the good guys. But that's just my opinion. To each their own. I have guns in my home, and we feel very safe. My door isn't locked to protect my family but to protect any crazy bastard that has the nutty idea of coming into my home and harming my family. He wouldn't have a chance. But for me it basically comes down to what gives the government any right to tell me what I can or can not have in my house for protection. You got Joe Biden out there telling all the women in the country to buy shotguns. Most females can not handle a shotgun without many practice sessions and training. Out of all the guns in the world, the shotgun is the hardest to shoot when it comes to a persons size and the amount of kick it gives off. Most of them would get blown over backwards with a shotgun. Or better yet, he's telling everyone to put a couple blast through the door. Ooops, sorry, just shot the mailman. We have people that clearly aren't trained enough in guns to have a clue, trying to tell everyone else what they need or do not need.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    STAYSEA wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Someone wanting to do the most damage to human life will choose a gun free zone.
    Like a movie theater, school, church, or museum.

    You can now get an app for your phone showing the 20 closest gun free public places.
    Sorry I wanted to say something but I ended up not being able, so I fixed the spelling?

    if that is a question then the answer is.. no you didn't.
    I wanted to say something more too
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,959
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    That's wonderful.

    I despise people that wish to take my rights away from me, especially when their laws won't do anything to make the situation better.

    back in the 90s we had a massacre here in australia that shocked outraged and deeply saddened us all. the govt of the time did what was within its power to do to make sure it never happened again. we gave up our guns and you know what? we havent had a massacre since. now granted... we have no bill of rights because we had no war to gain our independence. we also do not and have never had the gun culture that the US has. i understand the 2nd amendment, i understand the climate in which it was drafted and i understand peoples reaction to being disarmed cause they hold the bill rights so tight in their hand.. but what i do not understand is the sitting on hands of people who swear they will relinquish their weaponry only when its pried out of their cold dead hands and yet offer no alternate solution. do you all really think this is an acceptable price to pay for this so called freedom? isnt at least curbing what is available worth trying? sure you can trot out the 'but the criminals will stilll be able to get guns so i need mine just in case' all you like the fact remains more guns does not make a community safer. last week i went to the art museum of st louis and there by the front door was a sign declaring the museum to be a firearms free zone. WTF? seriously? where i come from thats just a fucking given.


    For me it's not an issue of whither the country will be safer or not. Personally, I don't see how the country will be safer by taking certain types of guns away from the good guys. But that's just my opinion. To each their own. I have guns in my home, and we feel very safe. My door isn't locked to protect my family but to protect any crazy bastard that has the nutty idea of coming into my home and harming my family. He wouldn't have a chance. But for me it basically comes down to what gives the government any right to tell me what I can or can not have in my house for protection. You got Joe Biden out there telling all the women in the country to buy shotguns. Most females can not handle a shotgun without many practice sessions and training. Out of all the guns in the world, the shotgun is the hardest to shoot when it comes to a persons size and the amount of kick it gives off. Most of them would get blown over backwards with a shotgun. Or better yet, he's telling everyone to put a couple blast through the door. Ooops, sorry, just shot the mailman. We have people that clearly aren't trained enough in guns to have a clue, trying to tell everyone else what they need or do not need.
    You lock your door at night thinking "there you go, criminals - stay safe"? Sorry, but I call bullshit on that.

    And you say most women would need actual training in order to properly use a shot gun? Well then, that IS a terrible idea... the last thing we want is for people to go out and get training in how to use their firearm! That just won't do. Better to encourage people to get hand guns so that they can avoid all that training and still have a chance at killing someone with it. :roll:
    (For the record, Biden's advice was fucking ridiculous, but not for the reason you site).
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  • OnTheEdgeOnTheEdge Posts: 1,300

    ^ Thats funny shit :lol:

    We need a head spinning smilie
  • unsung wrote:
    That's wonderful.

    I despise people that wish to take my rights away from me, especially when their laws won't do anything to make the situation better.

    The rights of the individual trumps the safety of the whole.

    Your second statement is toothless and misinformed. There are models that show dramatic results such as the one catefrances illustrated for you. In narcissistic fashion, you're choosing to ignore.
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  • pandora wrote:
    Pandemonium prepared ... savvy people take steps to make themselves
    and their households more self reliant ...
    good common sense just in case or if and when.

    Clueless people think their government will take care of them in a crisis.
    Why would they ever assume that :?

    Sheer nonsense.

    Preparation for this paranoia conceived pandemonium has created pandemonium. Your country has a real gun problem at hand, not a potential one in the future.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    Pandemonium prepared ... savvy people take steps to make themselves
    and their households more self reliant ...
    good common sense just in case or if and when.

    Clueless people think their government will take care of them in a crisis.
    Why would they ever assume that :?

    Sheer nonsense.

    Preparation for this paranoia conceived pandemonium has created pandemonium. Your country has a real gun problem at hand, not a potential one in the future.
    from one who knows all I guess ... shine up that crystal ball there cause it's a bit foggy.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,959
    pandora wrote:
    Pandemonium prepared ... savvy people take steps to make themselves
    and their households more self reliant ...
    good common sense just in case or if and when.

    Clueless people think their government will take care of them in a crisis.
    Why would they ever assume that :?

    Sheer nonsense.

    Preparation for this paranoia conceived pandemonium has created pandemonium. Your country has a real gun problem at hand, not a potential one in the future.
    When I think about preparing for a crisis situation, my mind goes only to having a supply of drinking water and non-perishable food items... a first aid kit and a good flash light and spare batteries. Not having weaponry. Again - there's that gun culture rearing its ugly head.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Pandemonium prepared ... savvy people take steps to make themselves
    and their households more self reliant ...
    good common sense just in case or if and when.

    Clueless people think their government will take care of them in a crisis.
    Why would they ever assume that :?

    Sheer nonsense.

    Preparation for this paranoia conceived pandemonium has created pandemonium. Your country has a real gun problem at hand, not a potential one in the future.
    When I think about preparing for a crisis situation, my mind goes only to having a supply of drinking water and non-perishable food items... a first aid kit and a good flash light and spare batteries. Not having weaponry. Again - there's that gun culture rearing its ugly head.
    Better watch out for the people who want your supplies there.
    I guess in la la land everyone is respectful of other's goodies and would never loot, murder,
    for drinking water, food, shelter, medicine. Me I would rather be prepared for pandemonium.
    But then I was a Girl Scout ;) Better safe than sorry.
  • pandora wrote:
    Better watch out for the people who want your supplies there.
    I guess in la la land everyone is respectful of other's goodies and would never loot, murder,
    for drinking water, food, shelter, medicine. Me I would rather be prepared for pandemonium.
    But then I was a Girl Scout ;) Better safe than sorry.

    La La Land.

    Oh God the irony here.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    That's wonderful.

    I despise people that wish to take my rights away from me, especially when their laws won't do anything to make the situation better.

    back in the 90s we had a massacre here in australia that shocked outraged and deeply saddened us all. the govt of the time did what was within its power to do to make sure it never happened again. we gave up our guns and you know what? we havent had a massacre since. now granted... we have no bill of rights because we had no war to gain our independence. we also do not and have never had the gun culture that the US has. i understand the 2nd amendment, i understand the climate in which it was drafted and i understand peoples reaction to being disarmed cause they hold the bill rights so tight in their hand.. but what i do not understand is the sitting on hands of people who swear they will relinquish their weaponry only when its pried out of their cold dead hands and yet offer no alternate solution. do you all really think this is an acceptable price to pay for this so called freedom? isnt at least curbing what is available worth trying? sure you can trot out the 'but the criminals will stilll be able to get guns so i need mine just in case' all you like the fact remains more guns does not make a community safer. last week i went to the art museum of st louis and there by the front door was a sign declaring the museum to be a firearms free zone. WTF? seriously? where i come from thats just a fucking given.


    For me it's not an issue of whither the country will be safer or not. Personally, I don't see how the country will be safer by taking certain types of guns away from the good guys. But that's just my opinion. To each their own. I have guns in my home, and we feel very safe. My door isn't locked to protect my family but to protect any crazy bastard that has the nutty idea of coming into my home and harming my family. He wouldn't have a chance. But for me it basically comes down to what gives the government any right to tell me what I can or can not have in my house for protection. You got Joe Biden out there telling all the women in the country to buy shotguns. Most females can not handle a shotgun without many practice sessions and training. Out of all the guns in the world, the shotgun is the hardest to shoot when it comes to a persons size and the amount of kick it gives off. Most of them would get blown over backwards with a shotgun. Or better yet, he's telling everyone to put a couple blast through the door. Ooops, sorry, just shot the mailman. We have people that clearly aren't trained enough in guns to have a clue, trying to tell everyone else what they need or do not need.


    dont think about it as being safer by taking away certain types of guns from the good guys... think about it as taking superfluous weaponry out of circulation. if all you people think your skills are high then youve no need for anything other than a simple pistol surely. but yuo know what? if youre pointing a gun at me youd better be prepared to use it cause im not gonna just stand there and have you think just cause im unarmed im powerless. you better use it cause i will come at you. and i have no fear of death. and its not about being a hero... its about taking control of a shitty situation and grabbing hold of the power the gunman thinks he/she has. so dont be thinking, shoot me if youre gonna. and if you want my tv that bad, just ask and we can all get out of this with just a high heart rate and nothing more... well youll have my tv but no one will be hurt.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,959
    pandora wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:

    Sheer nonsense.

    Preparation for this paranoia conceived pandemonium has created pandemonium. Your country has a real gun problem at hand, not a potential one in the future.
    When I think about preparing for a crisis situation, my mind goes only to having a supply of drinking water and non-perishable food items... a first aid kit and a good flash light and spare batteries. Not having weaponry. Again - there's that gun culture rearing its ugly head.
    Better watch out for the people who want your supplies there.
    I guess in la la land everyone is respectful of other's goodies and would never loot, murder,
    for drinking water, food, shelter, medicine. Me I would rather be prepared for pandemonium.
    But then I was a Girl Scout ;) Better safe than sorry.
    Not la la land. Vancouver, Canada.
    I am not worried, because I don't feel that I have anything to worry about. People would watch put for one another here. I don't feel that I would need a gun. No one else has them, really.... you see, there is no big gun culture here, being propagated by scared people. It is not our first thought to go get the guns.
    Of course, there is hope - I don't recall the big story during the Sandy aftermath being that paranoid people were hunkered down in the rubble ready to fight off armed marauders.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,641
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Better watch out for the people who want your supplies there.
    I guess in la la land everyone is respectful of other's goodies and would never loot, murder,
    for drinking water, food, shelter, medicine. Me I would rather be prepared for pandemonium.
    But then I was a Girl Scout ;) Better safe than sorry.
    Not la la land. Vancouver, Canada.
    I am not worried, because I don't feel that I have anything to worry about. People would watch put for one another here. I don't feel that I would need a gun. No one else has them, really.... you see, there is no big gun culture here, being propagated by scared people. It is not our first thought to go get the guns.
    Of course, there is hope - I don't recall the big story during the Sandy aftermath being that paranoid people were hunkered down in the rubble ready to fight off armed marauders.
    nope, what you had was those withelectric power allowing others to use it so they could stay in contact with loved ones.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    When I think about preparing for a crisis situation, my mind goes only to having a supply of drinking water and non-perishable food items... a first aid kit and a good flash light and spare batteries. Not having weaponry. Again - there's that gun culture rearing its ugly head.
    Better watch out for the people who want your supplies there.
    I guess in la la land everyone is respectful of other's goodies and would never loot, murder,
    for drinking water, food, shelter, medicine. Me I would rather be prepared for pandemonium.
    But then I was a Girl Scout ;) Better safe than sorry.
    Not la la land. Vancouver, Canada.
    I am not worried, because I don't feel that I have anything to worry about. People would watch put for one another here. I don't feel that I would need a gun. No one else has them, really.... you see, there is no big gun culture here, being propagated by scared people. It is not our first thought to go get the guns.
    Of course, there is hope - I don't recall the big story during the Sandy aftermath being that paranoid people were hunkered down in the rubble ready to fight off armed marauders.
    Have you read recently how many guns are in Canada? That's only those we know about. :lol:
    I sincerely hope you won't need a gun. I sincerely hope you can protect your home, your children,
    your loved ones by relying on others. This is your plan and your choice.
    But for me self reliance is important. I'm not going to bank
    on being protected by the government, the police, my fellow man. You see in pandemonium
    unfortunately it is everyone for themselves. And as horrible as Sandy was
    I am not talking about a hurricane or an isolated part of my country.
    It is plain and simple common sense preparedness.

    Actually for me the fear is thick amongst those who want to take guns away from people.
    It is none of your business if I choose to own a gun for preparedness and protection,
    yet you make it so. I can only wonder why that is and I have to realize it is fear.
    Just as I can only wonder why you would want to take my Lucy Lew from me as well.
    I guess because you do not understand and what we can't understand we fear.

    Do you carry insurance? all kinds? Me too.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    Better watch out for the people who want your supplies there.
    I guess in la la land everyone is respectful of other's goodies and would never loot, murder,
    for drinking water, food, shelter, medicine. Me I would rather be prepared for pandemonium.
    But then I was a Girl Scout ;) Better safe than sorry.

    La La Land.

    Oh God the irony here.
    I am about as realistic as it gets but I do believe in love :D

    I believe in pit bull love too...
    now we got some irony. ;)
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