Sandy Hook School has armed guards at the school and will have them indefinitely.
A comfort to the parents whose surviving children still attend. There remains no proof an armed guard would have been able to stop that or any other tragedy. It is just as likely a crossfire between guard and assailant would have taken even more lives.
Okay sorry I forgot who I was conversing with...
If you outlaw "assault" riffles only outlaws will have "assault" riffles.
You people are totally fucking brainwashed. Does it bother you at all that the people who you want to give MORE power to regulate you don't follow the same regulations that they put on the rest of us????
And if "no one wants to outlaw guns" what the fuck do you think these people are talking about? Making it easier to get guns? duuuuhhhhh :?
The irony within this post.
And get this, otter truly believes that their is a component of society that is waiting with their assault rifles to attack the portion without assault rifles.
Coo coo. Coo coo.
There's officially no point in debating this any more. The level of absurdity has boiled over and now it's become plainly obvious that some simply are in full blown denial regarding the problem that exists.
Or they simply don't care there's a problem because shooting cool guns is more important to them.
Okay sorry I forgot who I was conversing with...
If you outlaw "assault" riffles only outlaws will have "assault" riffles.
You people are totally fucking brainwashed. Does it bother you at all that the people who you want to give MORE power to regulate you don't follow the same regulations that they put on the rest of us????
And if "no one wants to outlaw guns" what the fuck do you think these people are talking about? Making it easier to get guns? duuuuhhhhh :?
brainwashed. that's a good one. not a new one, no points for originality there, but a good one nonetheless.
so you honestly believe the government is talking about outlawing all guns? you are talking about the united states of ameriguns here. USA! USA! BANG BANG!
Biden would be drug out into the street and tarred and feathered if his recommendations were to outlaw all guns.
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Fargo 2003
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St. Paul 2014
Okay sorry I forgot who I was conversing with...
If you outlaw "assault" riffles only outlaws will have "assault" riffles.
You people are totally fucking brainwashed. Does it bother you at all that the people who you want to give MORE power to regulate you don't follow the same regulations that they put on the rest of us????
And if "no one wants to outlaw guns" what the fuck do you think these people are talking about? Making it easier to get guns? duuuuhhhhh :?
The irony within this post.
And get this, otter truly believes that their is a component of society that is waiting with their assault rifles to attack the portion without assault rifles.
Coo coo. Coo coo.
There's officially no point in debating this any more. The level of absurdity has boiled over and now it's become plainly obvious that some simply are in full blown denial regarding the problem that exists.
Or they simply don't care there's a problem because shooting cool guns is more important to them.
I'm thinking the same thing. This has devolved from somewhat decent discussion to just utter nonsense. Much like all the god threads eventually end up.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Sandy Hook School has armed guards at the school and will have them indefinitely.
A comfort to the parents whose surviving children still attend. There remains no proof an armed guard would have been able to stop that or any other tragedy. It is just as likely a crossfire between guard and assailant would have taken even more lives.
...and again there is no proof a deadly crossfire fight would have happened. :?
ofcourse its the government's right to know what you own..
you need to pay taxis for what you own
Is this gun related or more broad than that?
Why the hell does the government need to know everything I own?
Also, just because you pay tax on something doesn't mean the government is monitoring your purchases or knows what you own. I bought a case of beer tonight. Paid tax too. Is that being monitored?
ofcourse its the government's right to know what you own..
you need to pay taxis for what you own
Is this gun related or more broad than that?
Why the hell does the government need to know everything I own?
They don't. I'm against all guns, common sense tells me that more guns equals more bullets. More bullets makes for bad news, regardless of the laws, the American constitution, or any other rule makers rules, people that have guns shoot to kill other people.
When does common sense prevail? Seriously the NRA/Biden thing yesterday, their was a school shooting during it.
Guns are bad, they aren't a piece of metal as I've read somewhere around here, they have 1 purpose and that is too shoot a bullet.
As far as the armed security at the school, the potential for teachers to carry guns, that's just more bullets to shoot. Although, as I read above, there is no proof that more bullets would be fired, odds are the more people that have guns to shoot during a shooting crisis like newtown, more people would have died
They don't. I'm against all guns, common sense tells me that more guns equals more bullets. More bullets makes for bad news, regardless of the laws, the American constitution, or any other rule makers rules, people that have guns shoot to kill other people.
When does common sense prevail? Seriously the NRA/Biden thing yesterday, their was a school shooting during it.
Guns are bad, they aren't a piece of metal as I've read somewhere around here, they have 1 purpose and that is too shoot a bullet.
As far as the armed security at the school, the potential for teachers to carry guns, that's just more bullets to shoot. Although, as I read above, there is no proof that more bullets would be fired, odds are the more people that have guns to shoot during a shooting crisis like newtown, more people would have died
Concentration needs to be on the illegal gun activity...not the legal.
BTW...none of the few tragedies the US suffered this past year would have been stopped by the legislation proposed by Oblahblah.
They don't. I'm against all guns, common sense tells me that more guns equals more bullets. More bullets makes for bad news, regardless of the laws, the American constitution, or any other rule makers rules, people that have guns shoot to kill other people.
When does common sense prevail? Seriously the NRA/Biden thing yesterday, their was a school shooting during it.
Guns are bad, they aren't a piece of metal as I've read somewhere around here, they have 1 purpose and that is too shoot a bullet.
As far as the armed security at the school, the potential for teachers to carry guns, that's just more bullets to shoot. Although, as I read above, there is no proof that more bullets would be fired, odds are the more people that have guns to shoot during a shooting crisis like newtown, more people would have died
Concentration needs to be on the illegal gun activity...not the legal.
BTW...none of the few tragedies the US suffered this past year would have been stopped by the legislation proposed by Oblahblah.
I'm not arguing legal/illegal guns and I'm not talking about Obama. I'm just saying common sense needs to prevail at some point. A gun legal or illegal, shoots a bullet and people die.
I'm not arguing legal/illegal guns and I'm not talking about Obama. I'm just saying common sense needs to prevail at some point. A gun legal or illegal, shoots a bullet and people die.
Illegal guns and illegal ammunition causes crime. Legal guns and ammunition provides protection, sport, and food.
I'm not arguing legal/illegal guns and I'm not talking about Obama. I'm just saying common sense needs to prevail at some point. A gun legal or illegal, shoots a bullet and people die.
Illegal guns and illegal ammunition causes crime. Legal guns and ammunition provides protection, sport, and food.
Ok, so if person 'A' has a legal gun, legal ammunition and proper paperwork and registration and all that, stores it legally, safely, unloaded and locked......100%legally done...... Person 'A' gets pissed off at the world one day, or his wife, neighbor,whatever/whoever....... He goes on a shooting spree and kills people. Would that not cause crime?
I'm just saying guns kill people......quit making them, quit selling them and quit shipping them into our countries..... There's enough of them
Fucking wal mart is the leading seller of guns in the USA, nothing like going and buying some milk, bread and cheese and a handgun. Fucking shoot some shit and make a sandwich, that's a nice morning....fuck
I'm not arguing legal/illegal guns and I'm not talking about Obama. I'm just saying common sense needs to prevail at some point. A gun legal or illegal, shoots a bullet and people die.
Illegal guns and illegal ammunition causes crime. Legal guns and ammunition provides protection, sport, and food.
so are you saying the legal guns in sandy hook are not responsible in any way for what happened? those were legal.
the guns and ammo in aurora were legal.
the guns and ammo that shot giffords were legal.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Sandy Hook School has armed guards at the school and will have them indefinitely.
A comfort to the parents whose surviving children still attend. There remains no proof an armed guard would have been able to stop that or any other tragedy. It is just as likely a crossfire between guard and assailant would have taken even more lives.
...and again there is no proof a deadly crossfire fight would have happened. :?
Of course, but at every turn the presence of an armed guard is being touted as a guarantee that these tragedies would be preventable. There is no proof that is indeed the case, and the presence of a second gun firing shots may very well raise the victim count.
I think he's saying that the guns are not responsible at all. The criminals that got their hands on them were responsible.
I understand the points you guys are trying to make, they are just incredibly naive and near-sighted. If you hang a "No Weapons Allowed" sign outside any establishment, anyone can assume that they won't be countered with deadly force if they decide to go in and shoot the place up. Hang up some "We will Shoot to Kill any Crazy Motherfucker that Comes to Harm our Children" signs. That is deterrent.
I'm not arguing legal/illegal guns and I'm not talking about Obama. I'm just saying common sense needs to prevail at some point. A gun legal or illegal, shoots a bullet and people die.
Illegal guns and illegal ammunition causes crime. Legal guns and ammunition provides protection, sport, and food.
so are you saying the legal guns in sandy hook are not responsible in any way for what happened? those were legal.
the guns and ammo in aurora were legal.
the guns and ammo that shot giffords were legal.
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I think he's saying that the guns are not responsible at all. The criminals that got their hands on them were responsible.
I understand the points you guys are trying to make, they are just incredibly naive and near-sighted. If you hang a "No Weapons Allowed" sign outside any establishment, anyone can assume that they won't be countered with deadly force if they decide to go in and shoot the place up. Hang up some "We will Shoot to Kill any Crazy Motherfucker that Comes to Harm our Children" signs. That is deterrent.
I think he's saying that the guns are not responsible at all. The criminals that got their hands on them were responsible.
I understand the points you guys are trying to make, they are just incredibly naive and near-sighted. If you hang a "No Weapons Allowed" sign outside any establishment, anyone can assume that they won't be countered with deadly force if they decide to go in and shoot the place up. Hang up some "We will Shoot to Kill any Crazy Motherfucker that Comes to Harm our Children" signs. That is deterrent.
sorry bud, that is not a deterrent. that is a challenge to the bad guys.
and if this becomes law, you will register your weapons or you will be a criminal.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
No ma'am, if you pass laws I do not like I will not follow them.
LIBERTY!
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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Look. We have laws against gun violence, background checks, limits on types of weapons we can get and people still target places likely to be unprotected.
You can't legally have a gun at school, in a movie theater, bars, government buildings..........and these are exactly the types of places shooting sprees occur. Think there might be a reason?
We've tried tighter restrictions on law-abiding gun owners. It doesn't work. Violent crime increases when criminals know they are targeting unarmed victims.
It's time we get to the root cause of criminal activity in our homes, schools and within ourselves. Let's prevent people from being victimized and stop them from becoming criminals in the first place.
We have tried everything else. Why not place armed guards in schools and other vulnerable locations for mass-killings. Do it like the previous (failed) assault weapons ban, in that it will expire if deemed a failure and let the legislation dissolve. At the same time, talk to your kids. Educate them about the evils of the world. Instill the value of life in them and teach them that their actions carry consequences. Lead by example and be aware of the influence your actions have on others.
I think he's saying that the guns are not responsible at all. The criminals that got their hands on them were responsible.
I understand the points you guys are trying to make, they are just incredibly naive and near-sighted. If you hang a "No Weapons Allowed" sign outside any establishment, anyone can assume that they won't be countered with deadly force if they decide to go in and shoot the place up. Hang up some "We will Shoot to Kill any Crazy Motherfucker that Comes to Harm our Children" signs. That is deterrent.
sorry bud, that is not a deterrent. that is a challenge to the bad guys.
and if this becomes law, you will register your weapons or you will be a criminal.
If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
No ma'am, if you pass laws I do not like I will not follow them.
LIBERTY!
then stop smoking reefer @ 13 billion people. the laws have been passed by big government. no growing or using this green sticky ichy flowering plant. now frickin stop...its the law, man!
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A comfort to the parents whose surviving children still attend. There remains no proof an armed guard would have been able to stop that or any other tragedy. It is just as likely a crossfire between guard and assailant would have taken even more lives.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Doesn't mean its the right
The irony within this post.
And get this, otter truly believes that their is a component of society that is waiting with their assault rifles to attack the portion without assault rifles.
Coo coo. Coo coo.
There's officially no point in debating this any more. The level of absurdity has boiled over and now it's become plainly obvious that some simply are in full blown denial regarding the problem that exists.
Or they simply don't care there's a problem because shooting cool guns is more important to them.
Can you blame them given their reality?
Let's make a different reality for them so this doesn't have to be.
brainwashed. that's a good one. not a new one, no points for originality there, but a good one nonetheless.
so you honestly believe the government is talking about outlawing all guns? you are talking about the united states of ameriguns here. USA! USA! BANG BANG!
Biden would be drug out into the street and tarred and feathered if his recommendations were to outlaw all guns.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I'm thinking the same thing. This has devolved from somewhat decent discussion to just utter nonsense. Much like all the god threads eventually end up.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Most certainly it can be amended. When the majority of the public supports those changes. Fortunately the press hasn't been able to do that.
...and again there is no proof a deadly crossfire fight would have happened. :?
SO outlawing legally obtained weapons changes the reality of the situation?
Is this gun related or more broad than that?
Why the hell does the government need to know everything I own?
Also, just because you pay tax on something doesn't mean the government is monitoring your purchases or knows what you own. I bought a case of beer tonight. Paid tax too. Is that being monitored?
People having more power and freedom is a frightening thing for some people.
When does common sense prevail? Seriously the NRA/Biden thing yesterday, their was a school shooting during it.
Guns are bad, they aren't a piece of metal as I've read somewhere around here, they have 1 purpose and that is too shoot a bullet.
As far as the armed security at the school, the potential for teachers to carry guns, that's just more bullets to shoot. Although, as I read above, there is no proof that more bullets would be fired, odds are the more people that have guns to shoot during a shooting crisis like newtown, more people would have died
Concentration needs to be on the illegal gun activity...not the legal.
BTW...none of the few tragedies the US suffered this past year would have been stopped by the legislation proposed by Oblahblah.
I'm not arguing legal/illegal guns and I'm not talking about Obama. I'm just saying common sense needs to prevail at some point. A gun legal or illegal, shoots a bullet and people die.
Illegal guns and illegal ammunition causes crime. Legal guns and ammunition provides protection, sport, and food.
Ok, so if person 'A' has a legal gun, legal ammunition and proper paperwork and registration and all that, stores it legally, safely, unloaded and locked......100%legally done...... Person 'A' gets pissed off at the world one day, or his wife, neighbor,whatever/whoever....... He goes on a shooting spree and kills people. Would that not cause crime?
I'm just saying guns kill people......quit making them, quit selling them and quit shipping them into our countries..... There's enough of them
Geez you are simple.
Do you understand the overwhelming majority of gun deaths are the result of legally attained weapons?
You use the laughing icon. If there was a drooling fool icon I would use it right now.
the guns and ammo in aurora were legal.
the guns and ammo that shot giffords were legal.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Of course, but at every turn the presence of an armed guard is being touted as a guarantee that these tragedies would be preventable. There is no proof that is indeed the case, and the presence of a second gun firing shots may very well raise the victim count.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I understand the points you guys are trying to make, they are just incredibly naive and near-sighted. If you hang a "No Weapons Allowed" sign outside any establishment, anyone can assume that they won't be countered with deadly force if they decide to go in and shoot the place up. Hang up some "We will Shoot to Kill any Crazy Motherfucker that Comes to Harm our Children" signs. That is deterrent.
"Hollywood" shares responsibility. Glorifying violence in music, film, video games.
It's a shame.
If mass murders with guns was a world wide issue then yes I'd say Hollywood was a big contributor... But it's just Americans doing this..
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and if this becomes law, you will register your weapons or you will be a criminal.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
LIBERTY!
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
You can't legally have a gun at school, in a movie theater, bars, government buildings..........and these are exactly the types of places shooting sprees occur. Think there might be a reason?
We've tried tighter restrictions on law-abiding gun owners. It doesn't work. Violent crime increases when criminals know they are targeting unarmed victims.
It's time we get to the root cause of criminal activity in our homes, schools and within ourselves. Let's prevent people from being victimized and stop them from becoming criminals in the first place.
We have tried everything else. Why not place armed guards in schools and other vulnerable locations for mass-killings. Do it like the previous (failed) assault weapons ban, in that it will expire if deemed a failure and let the legislation dissolve. At the same time, talk to your kids. Educate them about the evils of the world. Instill the value of life in them and teach them that their actions carry consequences. Lead by example and be aware of the influence your actions have on others.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce