I'm willing to give this pederson thing a chance. Definitely worried that Roseman has too much power within the organization. Will be an interesting offseason to say the least.
Wish they just kept the best coach they have ever had.
I have no clue if Pederson is a good hire or not but it has to be a good thing that most Eagles fans are against the move seeing at how Eagles fans were so wrong by hating Reid and loving Kelly.
Uninspiring to say the least. A little different than the Reid hire. We have a history with Doug here as a coach and player and neither were good stints. Hope it works out. The thing that makes this look bad is that it makes it seem like Andy is still operating in our FO and that our FO appears to not have a clue.
The thing I find funny today is all the people comparing him to Andy in 1999. I liked the Reid hire. Including his college stints, Andy had about 17 years of experience including a super bowl ring while he was Bret Farve's QB coach. Ederson was a high school coach for a few years before being Reid's QB coach during his last 2 disastrous years here and was "offensive coordinator" (who Reid didnt let call plays) on an offense whose greatest attribute was their defense.
It very well could work out and I'm absolutely willing to give him a shot-- I do think there's more talent here than its being portrayed. But I can't help but think he's gotta be one of the least qualified coaches in the league.
And as I feared a few weeks ago, the mess that is our front office prevented them from bringing in any of the top tier candidates so they had to settle for someone who no other team even considered.
that's my biggest complaint. no one else was going to hire pederson. why not wait until the playoffs are over so they could have vetted other candidates (namely my boy mcdaniels)??
oh well, I'm going into this with an open mind. willing to give this a shot. can't be worse than chip kelly
No coincidence that Chip ended up in SF. Just sayin
You mean he is an asshole and the owner/GM in SF are assholes too?
Chip is gay...SF has highest LGBT population in the country. Nothing wrong with that...he just tries so hard to hide it and it's blatantly obvious.
Chip landed his dream job
Huh. OK, I hope he leads them to a SB or 3 and lives happily ever after. I don't care if he dresses up as a woman on the sidelines or coaches from a recliner so long as they win games and get back into the playoffs.
that's my biggest complaint. no one else was going to hire pederson. why not wait until the playoffs are over so they could have vetted other candidates (namely my boy mcdaniels)??
oh well, I'm going into this with an open mind. willing to give this a shot. can't be worse than chip kelly
I'd prefer the combo of Gamble and Kelly over Howie and Doug. Wrong guy got fired last year.
Yeah I agree. Didn't even consider McDaniels or McDermott.....I'd think Bob Sutton would the coordinator on KC's staff that should've garnered their attention. That defense of his is legit and has carried that team.
No coincidence that Chip ended up in SF. Just sayin
You mean he is an asshole and the owner/GM in SF are assholes too?
Chip is gay...SF has highest LGBT population in the country. Nothing wrong with that...he just tries so hard to hide it and it's blatantly obvious.
Chip landed his dream job
Huh. OK, I hope he leads them to a SB or 3 and lives happily ever after. I don't care if he dresses up as a woman on the sidelines or coaches from a recliner so long as they win games and get back into the playoffs.
think about it. chip has never been spotted in public with a woman. it's bizarre man
that's my biggest complaint. no one else was going to hire pederson. why not wait until the playoffs are over so they could have vetted other candidates (namely my boy mcdaniels)??
oh well, I'm going into this with an open mind. willing to give this a shot. can't be worse than chip kelly
playing devil's advocate here a bit but Pederson has reportedly already begun contacting coaches to join his staff. if you wait until after the Chiefs are done (especially if they continue to win) the pool of available quality assistants could be severely weakened and we've seen what happens when you have bad coordinators around here.
that's my biggest complaint. no one else was going to hire pederson. why not wait until the playoffs are over so they could have vetted other candidates (namely my boy mcdaniels)??
oh well, I'm going into this with an open mind. willing to give this a shot. can't be worse than chip kelly
playing devil's advocate here a bit but Pederson has reportedly already begun contacting coaches to join his staff. if you wait until after the Chiefs are done (especially if they continue to win) the pool of available quality assistants could be severely weakened and we've seen what happens when you have bad coordinators around here.
out of respect to reid I find it hard to believe that he's going to be poaching the KC staff
Because Mara ha said he would never force one of his assistants to stay if they don't want to. Plus the Eagles could also give him an additional title like "associate head coach" so it technically wouldn't be a lateral move.
I've always been a Spagnuola fan despite not having a lot of success since leaving the Giants. Think it's due more to talent. I've always felt he's the kind of guy who could have success if given another chance to be a head coach.
Because Mara ha said he would never force one of his assistants to stay if they don't want to. Plus the Eagles could also give him an additional title like "associate head coach" so it technically wouldn't be a lateral move.
I've always been a Spagnuola fan despite not having a lot of success since leaving the Giants. Think it's due more to talent. I've always felt he's the kind of guy who could have success if given another chance to be a head coach.
Yeah, pretty sure Mara is not talking about his defensive coordinator going to their biggest rival when he said that. Not gonna happen.
Because Mara ha said he would never force one of his assistants to stay if they don't want to. Plus the Eagles could also give him an additional title like "associate head coach" so it technically wouldn't be a lateral move.
I've always been a Spagnuola fan despite not having a lot of success since leaving the Giants. Think it's due more to talent. I've always felt he's the kind of guy who could have success if given another chance to be a head coach.
Because Mara ha said he would never force one of his assistants to stay if they don't want to. Plus the Eagles could also give him an additional title like "associate head coach" so it technically wouldn't be a lateral move.
I've always been a Spagnuola fan despite not having a lot of success since leaving the Giants. Think it's due more to talent. I've always felt he's the kind of guy who could have success if given another chance to be a head coach.
sure let's bring in the D coordinator of one of the worst defenses in the league. love the stubborness with your continuing love for Spagnuolo though. impressive.
Because Mara ha said he would never force one of his assistants to stay if they don't want to. Plus the Eagles could also give him an additional title like "associate head coach" so it technically wouldn't be a lateral move.
I've always been a Spagnuola fan despite not having a lot of success since leaving the Giants. Think it's due more to talent. I've always felt he's the kind of guy who could have success if given another chance to be a head coach.
Yeah, pretty sure Mara is not talking about his defensive coordinator going to their biggest rival when he said that. Not gonna happen.
Sure it could. Why would they want to keep him if it's true he doesn't want to stay? Doesn't sound like an ideal working environment of that's the case.
Because Mara ha said he would never force one of his assistants to stay if they don't want to. Plus the Eagles could also give him an additional title like "associate head coach" so it technically wouldn't be a lateral move.
I've always been a Spagnuola fan despite not having a lot of success since leaving the Giants. Think it's due more to talent. I've always felt he's the kind of guy who could have success if given another chance to be a head coach.
Yeah, pretty sure Mara is not talking about his defensive coordinator going to their biggest rival when he said that. Not gonna happen.
Sure it could. Why would they want to keep him if it's true he doesn't want to stay? Doesn't sound like an ideal working environment of that's the case.
Who said he doesn't want to stay? The reports said the Eagles wanted him.
Eagles called the Giants to ask permission to talk to him...denied.
Because Mara ha said he would never force one of his assistants to stay if they don't want to. Plus the Eagles could also give him an additional title like "associate head coach" so it technically wouldn't be a lateral move.
I've always been a Spagnuola fan despite not having a lot of success since leaving the Giants. Think it's due more to talent. I've always felt he's the kind of guy who could have success if given another chance to be a head coach.
Yeah, pretty sure Mara is not talking about his defensive coordinator going to their biggest rival when he said that. Not gonna happen.
Sure it could. Why would they want to keep him if it's true he doesn't want to stay? Doesn't sound like an ideal working environment of that's the case.
Who said he doesn't want to stay? The reports said the Eagles wanted him.
Eagles called the Giants to ask permission to talk to him...denied.
Not saying it's going to happen and I realize most fans probably don't want him...but you asked why and I told you. Haven't seen anything that said the Giants denied the Eagles permission
Andy, are you shitting me? I was actually pulling for him and Maclin and he goes and fucks up the clock again. Good job by Pederson stepping up and helping with the clock. Spags, no thanks. Reich, no thanks. I'd take Schwartz but the FO would probably feel to threatened by having his personality there.
Alright, alright, alright!
Tom O. "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Because Mara ha said he would never force one of his assistants to stay if they don't want to. Plus the Eagles could also give him an additional title like "associate head coach" so it technically wouldn't be a lateral move.
I've always been a Spagnuola fan despite not having a lot of success since leaving the Giants. Think it's due more to talent. I've always felt he's the kind of guy who could have success if given another chance to be a head coach.
Yeah, pretty sure Mara is not talking about his defensive coordinator going to their biggest rival when he said that. Not gonna happen.
Sure it could. Why would they want to keep him if it's true he doesn't want to stay? Doesn't sound like an ideal working environment of that's the case.
Who said he doesn't want to stay? The reports said the Eagles wanted him.
Eagles called the Giants to ask permission to talk to him...denied.
Not saying it's going to happen and I realize most fans probably don't want him...but you asked why and I told you. Haven't seen anything that said the Giants denied the Eagles permission
More talent on Birds D than in NY....
Apparently gargano said that. No clue how he would know. Just saw it on Twitter.
Because Mara ha said he would never force one of his assistants to stay if they don't want to. Plus the Eagles could also give him an additional title like "associate head coach" so it technically wouldn't be a lateral move.
I've always been a Spagnuola fan despite not having a lot of success since leaving the Giants. Think it's due more to talent. I've always felt he's the kind of guy who could have success if given another chance to be a head coach.
Yeah, pretty sure Mara is not talking about his defensive coordinator going to their biggest rival when he said that. Not gonna happen.
Sure it could. Why would they want to keep him if it's true he doesn't want to stay? Doesn't sound like an ideal working environment of that's the case.
Who said he doesn't want to stay? The reports said the Eagles wanted him.
Eagles called the Giants to ask permission to talk to him...denied.
Not saying it's going to happen and I realize most fans probably don't want him...but you asked why and I told you. Haven't seen anything that said the Giants denied the Eagles permission
More talent on Birds D than in NY....
Apparently gargano said that. No clue how he would know. Just saw it on Twitter.
Because Mara ha said he would never force one of his assistants to stay if they don't want to. Plus the Eagles could also give him an additional title like "associate head coach" so it technically wouldn't be a lateral move.
I've always been a Spagnuola fan despite not having a lot of success since leaving the Giants. Think it's due more to talent. I've always felt he's the kind of guy who could have success if given another chance to be a head coach.
Yeah, pretty sure Mara is not talking about his defensive coordinator going to their biggest rival when he said that. Not gonna happen.
Sure it could. Why would they want to keep him if it's true he doesn't want to stay? Doesn't sound like an ideal working environment of that's the case.
Who said he doesn't want to stay? The reports said the Eagles wanted him.
Eagles called the Giants to ask permission to talk to him...denied.
Not saying it's going to happen and I realize most fans probably don't want him...but you asked why and I told you. Haven't seen anything that said the Giants denied the Eagles permission
More talent on Birds D than in NY....
Apparently gargano said that. No clue how he would know. Just saw it on Twitter.
Andy, are you shitting me? I was actually pulling for him and Maclin and he goes and fucks up the clock again. Good job by Pederson stepping up and helping with the clock. Spags, no thanks. Reich, no thanks. I'd take Schwartz but the FO would probably feel to threatened by having his personality there.
After 20 years of making the same mistakes, what did you honestly expect?
Funny thing about that game is, ideally, Doug Pederson would be my 4th choice out of the 4 coordinators involved to be the Eagles next coach.
Andy, are you shitting me? I was actually pulling for him and Maclin and he goes and fucks up the clock again. Good job by Pederson stepping up and helping with the clock. Spags, no thanks. Reich, no thanks. I'd take Schwartz but the FO would probably feel to threatened by having his personality there.
After 20 years of making the same mistakes, what did you honestly expect?
Funny thing about that game is, ideally, Doug Pederson would be my 4th choice out of the 4 coordinators involved to be the Eagles next coach.
go birds
they were 14 down and their offense is just ok with a healthly Maclin and without they weren't going to score 28 it was going to take to beat the cheaters. their D came up small with zero sacks or turnovers. that is why the Chiefs lost not because of clock management when they were 14 down. and if a QB gets all the credit for a great 2-minute drill shouldn't Alex Smith be taking the heat for the clock management not Andy?
and if you want to talk about clock management you should be killing Bruce Arians. he came a shit load closer to costing his team a game with his lousy late clock management than Andy did. Gave Aaron Rodgers an extra 40 seconds. just awful job by Arians there.
Not enough talk about Larry Fitzgerald either. man guy is still getting it done. Love to watch him play. Carolina-Arizona should be a great game.
Clock management issues at end of first half and second half, Hawks. He's a good coach, no doubt....but has never fixed his glaring weaknesses and gets outcoached against good teams every year. There's an almost 2 decade history of it at this point.
Larry Fitz is awesome......
Also that Rogers Hail Mary reminded of Cunningham against the Bills 25 and a half years ago with Bruch Smith barreling down on him.
They could've scored before the 2min warning with all 3 timeouts left. Even the KC radio announcers were questioning it.
It's no longer just an Eagles fan thing--
"Two things we knew were confirmed in the Chiefs loss to the Patriots. If you give Knile Davis enough carries you know a fumble is coming. And if you give Andy Reid the opportunity to, he'll screw up the clock.
Eagles fans warned Chiefs fans about this when Andy Reid was hired. We have seen glimpses of Reid's clock management problems but we haven't seen it on a national stage with so much at stake. That changed on Saturday afternoon in Foxboro."
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Wish they just kept the best coach they have ever had.
It very well could work out and I'm absolutely willing to give him a shot-- I do think there's more talent here than its being portrayed. But I can't help but think he's gotta be one of the least qualified coaches in the league.
And as I feared a few weeks ago, the mess that is our front office prevented them from bringing in any of the top tier candidates so they had to settle for someone who no other team even considered.
Go Birds.
oh well, I'm going into this with an open mind. willing to give this a shot. can't be worse than chip kelly
Yeah I agree. Didn't even consider McDaniels or McDermott.....I'd think Bob Sutton would the coordinator on KC's staff that should've garnered their attention. That defense of his is legit and has carried that team.
We'll see what happens.
is this the look of a straight man?
I've always been a Spagnuola fan despite not having a lot of success since leaving the Giants. Think it's due more to talent. I've always felt he's the kind of guy who could have success if given another chance to be a head coach.
sure let's bring in the D coordinator of one of the worst defenses in the league. love the stubborness with your continuing love for Spagnuolo though. impressive.
Why would they want to keep him if it's true he doesn't want to stay? Doesn't sound like an ideal working environment of that's the case.
Eagles called the Giants to ask permission to talk to him...denied.
More talent on Birds D than in NY....
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Also, this...
Funny thing about that game is, ideally, Doug Pederson would be my 4th choice out of the 4 coordinators involved to be the Eagles next coach.
go birds
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
they were 14 down and their offense is just ok with a healthly Maclin and without they weren't going to score 28 it was going to take to beat the cheaters. their D came up small with zero sacks or turnovers. that is why the Chiefs lost not because of clock management when they were 14 down. and if a QB gets all the credit for a great 2-minute drill shouldn't Alex Smith be taking the heat for the clock management not Andy?
and if you want to talk about clock management you should be killing Bruce Arians. he came a shit load closer to costing his team a game with his lousy late clock management than Andy did. Gave Aaron Rodgers an extra 40 seconds. just awful job by Arians there.
Not enough talk about Larry Fitzgerald either. man guy is still getting it done. Love to watch him play. Carolina-Arizona should be a great game.
Larry Fitz is awesome......
Also that Rogers Hail Mary reminded of Cunningham against the Bills 25 and a half years ago with Bruch Smith barreling down on him.
Hell of a weekend of football.
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
"Two things we knew were confirmed in the Chiefs loss to the Patriots. If you give Knile Davis enough carries you know a fumble is coming. And if you give Andy Reid the opportunity to, he'll screw up the clock.
Eagles fans warned Chiefs fans about this when Andy Reid was hired. We have seen glimpses of Reid's clock management problems but we haven't seen it on a national stage with so much at stake. That changed on Saturday afternoon in Foxboro."
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/1/17/10782320/chiefs-fans-have-their-first-real-andy-reid-clock
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/1/16/10781110/andy-reid-coached-team-is-having-clock-management-problems-and-no-one
Back to the 4-3 I'd imagine.
I like this move.
His dad was Nova's old athletic director back in the 90's.
Who is it? Not sure if I'm buying the explanation for the Chiefs final drive. Betters odds of getting a 3 & out or onsides kick?
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer